THE STRANGE HISTORY OF AFI

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The Punk Rock MBA

The Punk Rock MBA

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The strange history of AFI that made them one of the most important bands in punk and alternative music:
* Their skatepunk era ("Answer That And Stay Fashionable") and melodic hardcore era ("Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes")
* AFI's horrorpunk era ("Black Sails" and "All Hallows EP")
* The mainstream breakthrough with "Decemberunderground" and "Miss Murder"
* The post-punk era: "Burials," the blood album and "Bodies"
* How Davey Havok popularized straight edge and hardcore, and his projects like XTRMST
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0:00 Intro
3:04 AFI's skatepunk & hardcore era
6:01 "All Hallow's Eve" & the horrorpunk era
7:10 "Sing The Sorrow"
10:33 "Decemberunderground"
13:33 "The Leaving Song Pt 2" video
16:25 "Burials" & the post-punk era
18:13 AFI's legacy & influence

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@ThePunkRockMBA
@ThePunkRockMBA 2 жыл бұрын
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@aestheticbeatz5700
@aestheticbeatz5700 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I love AFI they made misfits cool again by having horror punk influence. I said that before I watched it you already covered that lol i like every era by them. They're synth pop not as much but it's still pretty good for what it is.
@matthewdoucette207
@matthewdoucette207 2 жыл бұрын
AFI made the misfits relevant? 🤔
@Iwishtheirwasnopain
@Iwishtheirwasnopain 2 жыл бұрын
Hey fin how are you? Having a chill day so far?
@xqc-5734
@xqc-5734 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@CariHelstrom
@CariHelstrom 2 жыл бұрын
@@xqc-5734 so edgy
@AlexHodgesYT
@AlexHodgesYT 11 ай бұрын
AFI is criminally slept on for how unbelievably inspired and unique their writing was.
@mcdiggits
@mcdiggits 9 ай бұрын
Emphasis on WAS.
@crown_7295
@crown_7295 8 ай бұрын
Miss Murder 259million plays on spotify.... sounds more like they've found their entire potential audience. Is it so hard to believe a style of music isn't for everyone?
@AlexHodgesYT
@AlexHodgesYT 8 ай бұрын
@@crown_7295 yes because rock radio stations around the US (for much of AFIs run) dictated song circulation and discovery to mainstream audiences. Much of AFIs work was deemed “too edgy” and was skipped on radio rotation despite being genius. AFI with better song representation during their rise would have been as big as MCR, Korn, Linkin Park, etc. but were held back due to perceptions about their demo being “too narrow”.
@user-mx9he7ex3z
@user-mx9he7ex3z 8 ай бұрын
"unique and inspired" Also the band " Hey miss murder may i. take my LIOOOOFFFFEEEEE WOOOAAAAAHHHHH" Nah these guys were grown ass men trying to kick it with the younger fans. Creepy and very uninspired
@JAMBI..
@JAMBI.. 3 ай бұрын
Underrated
@lesliemartin3
@lesliemartin3 Жыл бұрын
When I was 15 I went to see AFI and Strung Out at a hole in the wall 15 minutes outside of Orange County. Davie was selling his own merch and I was starstruck despite them being so unbelievably humble at that time. He noticed I was smoking a cigarette and he told me that if I put it out he would give me my patches for free. I did. He did. I'll never forget it. I haven't smoked since.....by the way, he played last caress that night and I'm pretty sure there's a video of it.
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 6 ай бұрын
That's so sick
@seanbaskett5506
@seanbaskett5506 6 ай бұрын
I simply cannot imagine the self-control that goes into being straight edge. I'm on the patch and I'm still vaping. Fuck. Props for listening to Strung Out. I was introduced to SoCal hardcore from Crusty Demons of Dirt. Fuck yeah.
@lesliemartin3
@lesliemartin3 6 ай бұрын
@@seanbaskett5506 I started listening to punk in the early 90s when I first started high school. And by the time I was in my 30s. I'd already been addicted to everything you can imagine and i've been in recovery now for about ten years. When everything you do is based on substance abuse your life can get pretty bleak. After that, you get some time on your belt and the years that you spend without doing any drugs or alcohol. Get easier and easier because those natural endorphins are available to register in your brain again. I wouldn't trade sobriety for anything now.
@skullvitch2
@skullvitch2 4 ай бұрын
@@seanbaskett5506I think it depends on the person. I had that straight edge mindset for years... probably until I was nineteen, until I decided to try boozery and smoking. Admittedly my first tenure into the world of alcohol was pretty heavy like any other person turning twenty who was in university, but I grew out of that phase and now I do both of those rather sparingly. I know there's some folks who can't go without smoking for a few hours, but I literally was going through a pack of cigarettes in the span of maybe six to eight months, and I switched to the vape for my few puffs every few weeks. And when it comes to alcohol, I consume it rarely and rather minuscule in amounts too. It's a level of discipline I don't even need think of since I'm not dependent on the stuff, but I'm sure it's very different for someone who's super reliant on either or both to get by in their lives. Of course, different people have different relationships with substances such as those. I remember in an interview AFI's guitarist mentioned he drank a few times at parties back in the day, but he never cared for it and ultimately found the Straight Edge lifestyle being more rewarding by comparison.
@carolharris2357
@carolharris2357 Ай бұрын
It's been 21 years since 2003.
@saintkriss450
@saintkriss450 Жыл бұрын
Sing the sorrow might be my favourite album of all time. Not one skippable track, have listened to for years and years and will listen to it for the rest of my life
@randomvacancy
@randomvacancy 11 ай бұрын
Same. It's still in my regular rotation and I bought it the day it came out. It really is a masterpiece.
@gunnarelisigurjonsson2587
@gunnarelisigurjonsson2587 10 ай бұрын
I timeless piece ❤
@MichaelKelsay-lc1og
@MichaelKelsay-lc1og 9 ай бұрын
This album along with self titled the used debut album were such a different sound and probably my favorite time in music. Those 2 albums are up with my favorite albums of all time
@brianmartin5366
@brianmartin5366 9 ай бұрын
i got the silver CD instead of the standard red one... still have it and listen to it
@loringcasarotto6372
@loringcasarotto6372 9 ай бұрын
This album is one of the few I never listen to on shuffle. I think it just flows so perfectly from start to finish. StS is a work of art, in my eyes. The Great Disappointment is one of my all time favorite AFI tracks
@keilahjacobs7050
@keilahjacobs7050 Жыл бұрын
Decemberunderground was my introduction when I was 14. I went backwards from there and completely fell in love with everything they put out. They absolutely kill every album. So much respect for a band that can reinvent themselves over and over and still be 100% authentic. Davey and Jade are legendary together.
@Michael-kp4bd
@Michael-kp4bd Жыл бұрын
Props on going backwards! Many who heard the catchy stuff couldn’t really get into either their more hardcore or goth/emo sounds. And vice versa, those who loved the first few albums were really put off by the poppy-ness of Miss Murder and such. As this video strongly proposes, I too think they’re consistently stellar - you just gotta be open to change
@mry82
@mry82 Жыл бұрын
I am older so I did not have as far back to go when I found Black Sails, but I get it!
@mry82
@mry82 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-kp4bd Well said. I do have the most nostalgia for the late 90s early 00s albums, but respect it all!
@SevenDaySunset
@SevenDaySunset Жыл бұрын
I was 12, loved decemberunderground! KZbin was still an infant but I found the music videos from Sing the Sorrow, then the rest of their albums on their website! I’ve had no issues calling them my favorite band since then!
@mry82
@mry82 Жыл бұрын
@@SevenDaySunset Good times!
@brettbarreras48
@brettbarreras48 2 жыл бұрын
The art of drowning is extremely underrated. People talk about black sails and then go to sing the sorrow, you didn’t even mention it. Art of drowning is one of those albums for me that never gets old. Despair factor is an all time fav
@bw9980
@bw9980 2 жыл бұрын
the art of drowning is a masterpiece to my ears. I didn't really get into everything after that, just wasn't my thing. but the art of drowning will always be pinnacle AFI for me. Just a great album and is always overlooked for some reason. Not sure why : (
@matthewharris5586
@matthewharris5586 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@rpowell138
@rpowell138 2 жыл бұрын
Art of Drowning is my favorite album by them.
@bucknasty69
@bucknasty69 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Art Of Drowning is a stone cold classic!
@Posiman
@Posiman 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Art of Drowning is what got me into them. And I still believe Days of the Phoenix is one of the best songs ever written and I still get goosebumps when I see the intense video...
@jefgirdler7232
@jefgirdler7232 2 жыл бұрын
"nobody is asking Hatebreed to go make a ska album, right?" Well I fucking am NOW
@CannaToker420
@CannaToker420 2 жыл бұрын
Jamey Jasta did a song with Catch 22. So at least one of the members has done ska
@xgx666
@xgx666 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJe9fmqFedh4oZI
@billyengler5534
@billyengler5534 2 жыл бұрын
Literally had the same thought!
@MarySmith-ih7qs
@MarySmith-ih7qs 2 жыл бұрын
@@xgx666 wtf this rules?!? Like, I hate ska punk, but anyone who doesn't want an album of this is WEAK.
@craigdobson9068
@craigdobson9068 2 жыл бұрын
As long as Jasta still does the same vocal style, then I'm down.
@rodrigocutini8308
@rodrigocutini8308 Жыл бұрын
Jade Puget joining the band made a huge impact in the sound of the band. Black Sails in The Sunset is a masterpiece.
@NEUR0MANCER_
@NEUR0MANCER_ 10 ай бұрын
He had a big impact not just on the music, but Davey HAvok himself. Dvey HAvok, Jade and Nick 13 from Tiger army, all lived in the same frat house. Which they called the squat. But really wasnt a squat cause they were allowed to live there pretty much rent free, but they lived in essentially 1 room that was the size of a walk in closet. Jade moved into daveys room when he joined the band, since he had no where to live. In fact, they were living in that flat when they got signed to i think warner bros records. Releasing sing the sorrow, which propelled them into fame and money. First chance they got, they ditched that flat and got their own places. But it was nick 13, and Jade being involved in daveys creative process that changed the band into the modern version of AFI.
@sillybutt7
@sillybutt7 2 жыл бұрын
The art of drowning is quite literally one of the greatest albums of all time. Listening to it in its entirety from start to finish is flawless. Every track holds your attention to the end, then as soon as the next track starts, you're already sucked in. It flows so perfectly from one track to the next. Its one of those albums where its hard to listen to one song from the album without wanting to listen to the whole thing.
@anthonyvelarde8837
@anthonyvelarde8837 Жыл бұрын
I dig there punk sound of very proud of you but the dark side of art of drowning is also super amazing I would say it’s honestly my second favorite album from them
@scottmoynihan_realestate
@scottmoynihan_realestate Жыл бұрын
agreed. It was really weird that that album was not mentioned here. Absolutely their best offering and the pinnacle of their horror punk era.
@PunkRockLifer
@PunkRockLifer 6 ай бұрын
Black Sails is better imo. Both great tho
@jessenye7061
@jessenye7061 2 жыл бұрын
Jade is an extremely underrated guitarist. His ability to make a one guitar band sound huge is incredible.
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he can in the studio. Playing live it's not like that.
@therevolution91
@therevolution91 Жыл бұрын
That is because of his Gibson Les Paul Studio. The humbucker sound is much fatter than single coils.
@Masssshysteria
@Masssshysteria Жыл бұрын
Yeah he multitracks a lot
@jareddoran6605
@jareddoran6605 Жыл бұрын
In the studio he multitracks, but live I believe he mics his cab with two or more mics. He also tends to play thicker chords using most of his strings, rather than just power chords over and over again
@IJustSkitMyPants
@IJustSkitMyPants 2 жыл бұрын
Every year when the summer finally dies, black sails and sing the sorrow always carry me into the autumn. Something always vibe with me since I was 7 years old. I'm 29 now. A tradition that I'll never get rid of. This time of year is also when HIM makes an appearance.
@crazziemonkke
@crazziemonkke 2 жыл бұрын
same! gotta put all hallows ep and art of drowning in there too
@IJustSkitMyPants
@IJustSkitMyPants 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazziemonkke of course!
@russellburns2414
@russellburns2414 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah same here! Also the misfits, rob zombie, manson. It's gotta be a "Seasonal thing" it just feels right! Haha
@ili-samiam-ili3515
@ili-samiam-ili3515 2 жыл бұрын
Sing the sorrow is their best album, and I'm a diehard, wife is too. Just where I was at in life when that album came out.
@andrewmeilinger6203
@andrewmeilinger6203 2 жыл бұрын
Third season...
@motomaniac1383
@motomaniac1383 11 ай бұрын
My dad had listened to them since 94’ and they were his all time favorite band. He got me into them and I will forever be thankful for that. 🕊️
@bretthadley2043
@bretthadley2043 8 ай бұрын
I hope you my kids say this some day
@BDBD16
@BDBD16 5 ай бұрын
TELL YOUR DAD YOU LOVE HIM.....is your icon fucking nicacado?
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 Ай бұрын
Based pappy
@oscarcrosby2805
@oscarcrosby2805 Жыл бұрын
When I was in 9th Grade I saw the video for Leaving Song Part II....it changed my life and I started going back and listening to AFIs older stuff. That paved the way to me getting into punk. Mad respect to AFI. Thank you for the video.
@kristonio17
@kristonio17 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone surprised so many high-school girls like me fell in love with their albums? Spooky, emotional, romantic, poetic and yet still hard-core. I'm definitely a forever fan.
@nebwachamp
@nebwachamp 2 жыл бұрын
Im not. They make music for that demo.
@Crustyyjuggler
@Crustyyjuggler 2 жыл бұрын
That was me! Spoke to my soul lol
@16handsoffunfunfun
@16handsoffunfunfun 2 жыл бұрын
I did. I was 14 when i found them. That was a great year!
@AngelaEAwesome
@AngelaEAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
They were skate punk when i was in high school, and i dated a guy who loved Davey Havok. He didn’t look like him but his style was influenced by him.
@FGSFDS
@FGSFDS 2 жыл бұрын
:raises hand: Yep! I found them in like, 2002/2003 and have loved them ever since.
@jackgottsegen1499
@jackgottsegen1499 2 жыл бұрын
“AFI ruined punk for me. Not in the way of, I heard AFI and never wanted to listen to punk again. I mean, whenever one of my friends would show me some new punk band, I’d say, this is good, but have you listened to AFI?” - Gwarsenio Hall
@centralia83
@centralia83 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same shit haha
@nicholasromig5506
@nicholasromig5506 2 жыл бұрын
"afi aren't the best punk band. but they're the best good punk band." -- also Gwarsenio
@lloydchristmas6237
@lloydchristmas6237 2 жыл бұрын
Right on Gwarsenio, I knew several east coast kids that hated afi cause they were "cali punk"
@Radam_Jay
@Radam_Jay 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad they only made 4 punk albums over 20 years ago.
@nicholasromig5506
@nicholasromig5506 2 жыл бұрын
@@Radam_Jay oh yeah. tragic. :D
@YOYOTh1s
@YOYOTh1s 2 жыл бұрын
I had a art history lecturer who described The Beatles as a high modernist band because of their ability to change styles almost on a whim and keep their high standards at the same time. Your description of AFI made me think of that.
@harenokaori
@harenokaori 2 жыл бұрын
i just want to take a minute to express how much i love davey’s use of lyrics. he uses words to paint a picture of a feeling or an environment instead of telling you directly what’s happening, it makes his lyrics nuanced in an evocative show-not-tell fashion. i’ve always felt this way of writing leaves the listener to take whatever they need from the music and make their own meaning and importance out of it.
@fruitbattery
@fruitbattery 2 жыл бұрын
I don't speak English natively, and I swear, Davey's lyrics helped expand my vocabulary quite extensively. Pretty sure there are words I wouldn't have learned the meaning of otherwise. XD
@lme2089
@lme2089 Жыл бұрын
YES! His lyrics are straight poetry. So beautiful
@dylangeorge6185
@dylangeorge6185 6 ай бұрын
I’d say The best artist write in parables. The best music is.
@ianm1462
@ianm1462 4 ай бұрын
I distinctly remember looking up ‘filigree’ (from God Called in Sick Today) and ‘imbrued’ (Girl’s Not Grey) in middle school. Thanks for the improved vocab, Davey!
@margotd8190
@margotd8190 28 күн бұрын
💯
@jerit7529
@jerit7529 2 жыл бұрын
AFI has been my favorite band since 2000 when I was a 14 year old just learning what punk music was. I know a lot of people don't like their current sound, and I still prefer "old AFI." But we have to remember, these dudes are almost 50 years old. If they were still sitting there pretending they were oppressed street punks, it would feel insincere and like total bullshit.
@StitcheryWitchery
@StitcheryWitchery 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I enjoyed their new release because I really felt there was a nostalgia about it that made me long for the days of Sing the Sorrow and Miss Murder but loved they were moving forward, like we all are. Plus releasing music in a pandemic is not ideal
@ryanmason74
@ryanmason74 2 жыл бұрын
They changed over to their current sound, starting with Sing The Sorrow because Davey pulled a Meat Loaf and destroyed his vocal chords. He had to change his style if he wanted to continue to perform/record. I love old AFI, but I still respect their newer stuff.
@Logannnnn13
@Logannnnn13 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 93 and remember buying sing the sorrow when it came out and have willfully stayed ignorant of everything after that. Couldnt tell you what "miss murder" sounds like lol
@alexrtsimpson
@alexrtsimpson 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends shouting whooaaa ohhh along to AFI was the sound of growing up to me
@conservativesavage1076
@conservativesavage1076 2 жыл бұрын
I was 15 and Wester was the 1st song I heard and I was hooked. They’ve been one of my favorites ever since (36 now) my kids even love them bc they’ve heard them since they were babies.
@coryrobert7305
@coryrobert7305 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to explain how important this band has been in my life. They literally grew the same way musically I have through my life and I'll never stop listening to them
@shawnfaddoul1779
@shawnfaddoul1779 2 жыл бұрын
Oi! Oi! Same. They will always be my all time favorite band.
@germainekeguynes2080
@germainekeguynes2080 2 жыл бұрын
I see you're a man of culture as well
@fruitbattery
@fruitbattery 2 жыл бұрын
Many people have talked and written about how ones teenage years are a blur, because of teenage angst and the pressure of growing up. I don't remember things too vividly from back then, either. But I remember exactly where I was, what I was doing and how I felt when I discovered AFI. I think that says a lot about their impact (at least, on me personally) to be honest.
@cipaternet
@cipaternet Жыл бұрын
I love that I saw that clip of AFI playing at 3:51 and knew it was from the Fireside Bowl. I used to live across the street before they built themselves a new roof. It was just a dingy bowling alley with a roof caving in on one side so you couldn't actually bowl there, you just went to punk and hardcore shows.
@RosscoSoletrain
@RosscoSoletrain 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t say enough good things about every member of AFI that I’ve come across over the last 23 years. From their shows at the Phoenix Theater to the night they signed to a major to Coachella….they’ve always been so kind. So happy for their continued success. They deserve it.
@lloydchristmas6237
@lloydchristmas6237 2 жыл бұрын
Ukiah CA boys represent
@skitzolorenzo549
@skitzolorenzo549 2 жыл бұрын
@FoRmEr OuTLaW84 jelly much?
@dextersbeard3472
@dextersbeard3472 2 жыл бұрын
@FoRmEr OuTLaW84 🤣
@Rkitt8
@Rkitt8 2 жыл бұрын
@FoRmEr OuTLaW84 I agree completely. Thinly veiled “I’m the main character” comment.
@averageleagueofficial7229
@averageleagueofficial7229 2 жыл бұрын
@FoRmEr OuTLaW84 you must be a blast at parties
@blacktide888
@blacktide888 2 жыл бұрын
AFI were literally one of the first bands that got me into rock music in 2003. Their album Sing The Sorrow is hands down one of the best rock albums of the 2000s. Ever since then I’ve been a huge fan.
@TheRando10
@TheRando10 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Was just telling my wife this. For me it was AFI and Billy Talent
@Foogayzee
@Foogayzee 2 жыл бұрын
Yesssss exactly the same for me. Sing the Sorrow got me through so many tough times. It still holds up
@asantejsaymyname3537
@asantejsaymyname3537 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@firsttimecallerlongtimelis836
@firsttimecallerlongtimelis836 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRando10 billy talent!!!
@JM-fo1te
@JM-fo1te 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to them because the girls did. It got me laid when I started wearing eye liner and dyed my hair midnight black.
@alexisblackheart565
@alexisblackheart565 6 ай бұрын
I been watching you off and on for several years now and finally decided to subscribe, thank you for bringing such rich an in-depth info vids on band that have left such a massive influence on so many of us, our music, our style, our life's and myself and my own music. Keep doing what you do friend
@elliotwright1626
@elliotwright1626 Жыл бұрын
I remember pretending not to like Sing the Sorrow, but I would listen to it almost everyday before going surfing hahaha That album is incredible.
@declanlee6894
@declanlee6894 Жыл бұрын
That was me too I graduated high school 08 in Mississippi. Afi was definitely “weird and gay” but after I heard leaving song pt2 I got that album and was sold the writing the whole vibe was so different than anything I had ever heard. I love art of drowning and black sails but sing the sorrow does something special for my soul
@NEUR0MANCER_
@NEUR0MANCER_ 10 ай бұрын
Sing the sorrow, would be the first album i ever bought myself, that was real serious music. I saw the video of girls not grey, and had no idea what i was watching. Had no clue who AFI was, or their history. I didnt even realize they were from the punk scene. I wanted to be a skater back in 03 when i was in the 8th grade. All my friends skated, so I started learning how, and it was like kismet. All my friends wanted to be punks and skaters. But none of us knew what it was. But I would discover AFI, and then move to southern cal where i was perfectly positioned to become a punk, and start a band. It all lined up like fate had been leading me to that point. In the 8th grade i would start listening to street punk, and buy my fiorst pair of tight jeans. and people didnt wear them outside of the punk scene, so everyone thought tight jeans were weird. Then my first day of high school, I decided to plant my flag, and start at a new school as the person i wanted to be perceieved of being. So I wore tight paints with patches, a hoody with a GBH back patch, and my All hallows Tshirt. Within five min, a kid who was in a grade ahead of me, came up to me and he was like, you like AFI and GBH? I was like, yea... and he was like sick, so you been to any punk shows? I told him id been to two. Said I saw my friends brothers band play a few years ago, they were skate punk from the 90s, and i went to soma to see casualties, a global threat and clit 45. He invited me to go meet his friends, and we would hit it off immediately. Wanted to then spend all our time hanging out, and that first day they would say they are looking for a singer for their punk band. I ended up replacing kevin which was messed up, cause he brought me into their circle. Eventually we would have a falling out cause his parents were super strict. They didnt want him dressing punk, or hanging around freaks. So we had to kick him out cause frankly, he wasnt that great of a singer. I was able to change my voice. So I was the logical voice. Since i would spend time singing casualties and toxic narcotic at the top of my lungs, working out my vocal cords, and i would bring the sound of a global threat to a more hardcore sound, and my band was born. All because AFI, came on one time when i was standing in the living room watching MTV. I immediately took my allowance, and before moving to chula vista, I bought sing the sorrow. and from then on, i decided i would be punk rock. So I became a punk. And while my ideology has evolved, I am still at my core, a punk. Even if today, im more about cyber punk technology, and less about anarcho collectivist politics.
@pkealoha76
@pkealoha76 8 ай бұрын
OMG. I was the same way. I was into hip-hop and soul. I would listen to AFI, Coheed & Cambria, everyday whenever I had any privacy. I was actually scared of my stuff called friends finding out. I hated being so popular. I missed out on on so much.
@george-8043
@george-8043 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here because of afi. They definitely got me into punk, hardcore and every other crazy sub genre and really expanded my mind with philosophy etc. They inspired me to make music and for that I'm eternally grateful.
@mattyleduc943
@mattyleduc943 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@techdeathhippie6319
@techdeathhippie6319 2 жыл бұрын
They still are so underrated. They are so inspiring
@gregvaldez1269
@gregvaldez1269 2 жыл бұрын
Them and deftones
@777james
@777james 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@techdeathhippie6319
@techdeathhippie6319 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregvaldez1269 Crazy sane for me . Love both so much
@eXdXgXe4life
@eXdXgXe4life 2 жыл бұрын
Black sails in the sunset was a huge influence on my life and I still listen to it on heavy rotation.
@tytar1037
@tytar1037 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite album. Love it so much
@brettbarreras48
@brettbarreras48 2 жыл бұрын
Black sails and art of drowning were next level and still hold up for sure
@punkrocknik
@punkrocknik 2 жыл бұрын
Its my favorite I have it on vinyl
@janier234
@janier234 Жыл бұрын
Crazy that there isn't any analysis videos on AFI on here. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together. You freaking rock!
@keithquirk9823
@keithquirk9823 Жыл бұрын
This is the only band that I absolutely love everything they’ve released. I can’t name a single album that’s better than the others. Just a shame that 20+ years as a fan and I still haven’t seen them live
@MortarIvy
@MortarIvy 2 жыл бұрын
AFI 2003-7 was a Hot Topic manager's WET DREAM. They checked ALL the boxes. It was like an entire Hot Topic with all of its various niches and nuances chewed up and spit out into one band. As a teenager I devoured EVERY morsel. Still an AFI fan today, and am always excited to see how they evolve with each new release.
@electricfil
@electricfil Жыл бұрын
💯
@jzen1455
@jzen1455 Жыл бұрын
hehe, AFI were the embodiment of late 90s to mid-2000s Hot Topic. I ate it up too in high school, but I pretty much stopped listening to them after HS. I just wasn't a fan fo their "theratical emo" sound and got bored of all the albums I had by then (I had all the albums up to Art of Drowning).
@NEUR0MANCER_
@NEUR0MANCER_ 10 ай бұрын
Sure in terms of how they LOOKED, but the band wasnt a staple of goth culture. None of the hottopic kids at my high school back in 04 listened to afi. They listened to bands like a perfect circle, nirvana and all that. Only punks listened to AFI. Shit thats how i met my band, through our shared love for AFI. Also back then, everyone thought DAvey Havok was gay. Hilarious that one time an interviewer was like, lets take fan questions. One fan sent in the question, is davey HAvok gay? Does he have a lover or whatever? And Davey Havok was like, dumb founded, saying, Im not gay. Maybe it was the extremely GAY looks he and jade shared in their videos. Which i didnt get either as a kid when i first saw them. I didnt understand thats just how they were. They werent gay, they were just effeminate. and that was cool. When my friend kevin was like, yea you do know Davey Havok was gay, I just said, yea, i dont think so. They were like his bf is the guitarist. Im like, i doubt that. Davey sings about beauty as if he is referring to a female. So aesthetically was AFI a great band to market to hottopic poser kids? Sure, but they didnt LISTEN to afi. They just wanted to look like Davey HAvok, and wear their sing the sorrow Tshirts. While the true punks into AFI were buying All hallows Tshirts.
@w0undedmakers251
@w0undedmakers251 8 ай бұрын
@@NEUR0MANCER_lol bullshit. I graduated HS in 2004 and NO ONE who shopped at Hot Topic was listening to Nirvana. By 2004 the mainstream emo bands had completely overtaken Hot Topic. Was your Hot Topic located in some third-world country that was 10-20 years behind western civilization? Because in that case, I could see teenagers in 2004 listening to Nirvana lol
@nathanglennie
@nathanglennie 2 жыл бұрын
The Boy Who Destroyed The World was on a Tony Hawk game and that was the first song I heard from them. Was the favourite song by all my friends who played that game
@danielnelson4881
@danielnelson4881 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I remember that. Pro skater 2 I think... The one with the yellow n64 cartridge. I was already into AFI before then, I remember being STOKED when I heard that while doing a 360 melon off the ground, into a nose grind, into a manual, kickflip, manual, kickflip, up the ramp- 720 boneless, manual, kickflip, manual, kickflip.... You'll know exactly what I'm talking about I'm sure... Hahah.
@archiemisc
@archiemisc 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielnelson4881 It was THPS3 actually. I liked that song too. That's game's soundtrack as a whole was awesome.
@danielnelson4881
@danielnelson4881 2 жыл бұрын
@@archiemisc Yeah! You're probably right, I couldn't remember.
@andreschavez9671
@andreschavez9671 2 жыл бұрын
As a 7-10 year old at the time, THPS3 influenced my music taste for the rest of my life. Definitely went down the rabbit hole lol
@vyoletrose3218
@vyoletrose3218 9 ай бұрын
Davey Havok got me writing at a young age. His lyrics were always so beautiful..dark and eloquent. So stoked you made a video on AFI. My first brush with them was when Sing the Sorrow was released and it just blew the door wide open to punk, post punk, goth, hardcore. One of my favorite bands of all time.
@CityCutThat
@CityCutThat 4 ай бұрын
grew up in the sacramento area. i remember sneaking out of the house and going through the woods to go watch bands at the bar that was behind them. AFI was playing one night and it was one of the best concerts I had ever seen, and probably ever will. it honestly shaped my life musically.
@RudeBoySka216
@RudeBoySka216 2 жыл бұрын
Sing The Sorrow was my introduction to AFI when i was like 11 years old, I'm 28 now. Still my favorite album of there's until this day, I remember that's when Hot Topic was in it's prime and had that whole scene in it's store and totally highjacked The Nightmare Before Christmas stuff lol. Man it's crazy how time fly's, i love some good nostalgia
@Drakari21
@Drakari21 2 жыл бұрын
Sing the Sorrow is a literal masterpiece.
@aaronrodriguez7707
@aaronrodriguez7707 Жыл бұрын
That album got me through high school
@jofranco238
@jofranco238 Жыл бұрын
The hidden tracks were true gems!! 🤌🏼🤌🏼
@Drakari21
@Drakari21 Жыл бұрын
@@jofranco238 funny thing is I can’t find Synesthesia on like Spotify but they have this time imperfect. (The difference being the countries of release iirc). It’s annoying because both are excellent songs.
@Leechwife
@Leechwife Жыл бұрын
Hell yes. STS is probably the most perfect album when considering the theme, atmosphere and lyrical geniusness.
@Michael-kp4bd
@Michael-kp4bd Жыл бұрын
Silver and Cold was my favorite off the album for a while, and when I visited Prague as a 26 year old, I really eagerly ran out to the bridge in the music video 😂
@ashleylugosi13
@ashleylugosi13 Жыл бұрын
People evolve and change over time, and I think their changes have seemed fluid and natural. I know my styles have evolved and improved over time. However, Sing the Sorrow is my favorite era-but the band having a more post punk/Joy Division vibe at this time sort of flows with and fits with my own preferences, as well. 🖤
@markteevee
@markteevee Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@cultivatedmind8352
@cultivatedmind8352 2 жыл бұрын
Art of drowning was the transition album and possibly their greatest work. Sing the sorrow is great, and definitely a masterpiece, but there was an element of actual punk snottiness on Art of Drowning that disappears on Sing the Sorrow. Art of drowning had everything, misfits nods, big chants, punk aggression, a bit of horror, a lot of moodiness, high tempos, and classic epitaph/nitro style production. Oof. Can't believe you didn't mention that one man.
@justinbarnett9476
@justinbarnett9476 Жыл бұрын
For sure Art of Drowning is one of their best albums. It’s so damn catchy, energetic, and Davey’s voice really started to show range. There isn’t a bad track on that album.
@calder13
@calder13 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, how do you make a history of AFI and not even mention this album?
@Hairlesswookie62
@Hairlesswookie62 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to AFI in early high school (SING THE SORROW, specifically) made me realize that I *needed* music to get by; that it wasn't an optional aesthetic of living. Through their evolution, it's obvious that AFI and bands like them who mature on their own time feel the same way, which is a damn cool bridge to share with strangers. Damn good retrospective, Finn. Best of luck on the move.
@13lood13ath
@13lood13ath 2 жыл бұрын
AFI's early material is awesome! Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes is still one of my favorite albums. I love everything before Sing The Sorrow.
@michaelkilgore
@michaelkilgore 2 жыл бұрын
You're missing out
@briank1263
@briank1263 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I used to skate to that album exclusively.
@jillybeangaming
@jillybeangaming 2 жыл бұрын
I loved everything through sing the sorrow. xD but I also just don't know their newer stuff.
@andrewmeilinger6203
@andrewmeilinger6203 2 жыл бұрын
Raw energy of Shut your mouth is just simply incredible
@oldladytrexarms
@oldladytrexarms 2 жыл бұрын
AFI offers something for everyone. But I'd definitely say to give Burials and Blood a chance. They do have punk sounds/darkness to them. My husband loves Burials more than STS.
@Violette---
@Violette--- 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw them live yesterday and I am surprised Davey's vocal was still top notch and their performance was very energetic. Love that they played most of their older songs from art of drowning and sing the sorrow. 😊 its was so amazing🥰🥰🤩
@puncrock2952
@puncrock2952 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how he does it, honestly- I sang in bands for years and the AFI influenced screamo songs we did left me without a voice for days after🙊
@theunconventionalenglishman
@theunconventionalenglishman Жыл бұрын
This was SUPER insightful for me. I got into AFI in 2004 when I was 20 through Sing the Sorrow. Going back through their discography, I didn't enjoy before Black Sails. And as they released new music, the last album I loved was Crash Love. Burials had its moments but that was where I got off. This video totally made me understand why that was the case and educated me on different genres and sub-genres. Just excellent - thank you sir
@tytar1037
@tytar1037 2 жыл бұрын
This band was my life for so long. Black Sails and Art of Drowning are everything to me.
@j3rkcat
@j3rkcat 2 жыл бұрын
Add All Hallows Eve and Im right there with you. Total Imortal is my All Time Fav AFI Song.
@leam89
@leam89 2 жыл бұрын
Same and it was basically skipped over lol
@shamm249
@shamm249 2 жыл бұрын
Same. AFI was one of the most important bands ever to me
@Francis_The_Mute336
@Francis_The_Mute336 2 жыл бұрын
Big facts. Lol can y'all tell?
@danielnelson4881
@danielnelson4881 2 жыл бұрын
My people!
@shortorderproductions8688
@shortorderproductions8688 2 жыл бұрын
Finn: “Nobody is asking Hatebreed to make a ska album.” Me: 🤔🤔
@insaneconqueror5421
@insaneconqueror5421 2 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@SR-rx4pk
@SR-rx4pk 2 жыл бұрын
That would ve hilarious.
@saulibus1
@saulibus1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Im like fuck yeah. Ska always wins 🏆
@staccatofootsteps
@staccatofootsteps 2 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo lol
@anarcho-savagery2097
@anarcho-savagery2097 2 жыл бұрын
Angry Ska
@gangsterHOTLINE
@gangsterHOTLINE 2 ай бұрын
I stumbled onto this band listening to a Punk O Rama given to me by a friend back when. The song I first ever heard was A Single Second. From then it was a love story to me that introduced me to punk. I adore all of AFI. I once apon a time went to Warped Tour...possibly 2003. Good Charlotte was playing and AFi was not on the list of bands to play during the tour. But they showed up. I lost my shit. I had a film camera I had checked out from my photo class in high school. I tried to get to the front while they played and some old dude asked me if I wanted to go up (he meant crowd surf) and I said hell yeah. I was surfed to the front where a bunch of security dudes would bring you down so you could run back around. But this dude set me down right behind the gates and gave me a thumbs up and now I was as close to AFI as I could get. I snapped so many dope ass photos of the band. I felt like I was so blessed to be there. Davey had electrical tape around his arms. They played Art of Drowning and Black Sails. I ended up losing that camera in a moshpit later to a Glassjaw pit. But I had removed the film. Those photos are forever lost now, but what I did develop from that roll of film I'll never forget. They were damn good pictures of AFI. I got plenty of A's in that class. But the money I owed for the loss of the camera almost fucked me from graduating. Punk Rock.
@tommedvedich
@tommedvedich 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video, man! Didn’t know I needed to watch this but I really enjoyed it!
@jerryrose9472
@jerryrose9472 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Death of Seasons for me is the quintessential AFI song. It has everything.
@JoeCOOL-pi7mt
@JoeCOOL-pi7mt 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite song on that album!
@gunnnervader7396
@gunnnervader7396 2 жыл бұрын
I was in high school when I first heard afi 1992. But I do like that song, now every after that, album wise. I gave up.
@Patrick_Andrews917
@Patrick_Andrews917 2 жыл бұрын
That song still blows me away to this day. I love it so much
@jeremyvanengen3341
@jeremyvanengen3341 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dabberowl
@dabberowl 2 жыл бұрын
Black Sails in the Sunset and Art of Drowning are absolute perfection
@RawPower867
@RawPower867 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Those albums raise the bar as high as Mount Everest. The absolute peak of AFI.
@xenostim
@xenostim 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely their best albums. All Hollows EP too.
@Arthurian.
@Arthurian. 2 жыл бұрын
All hallows EP & Art of Drowning💕
@nofateeric2610
@nofateeric2610 2 жыл бұрын
That is correct
@GradyRoy
@GradyRoy 2 жыл бұрын
yep, anything after that was absolute trash
@j.d.belanger9036
@j.d.belanger9036 2 жыл бұрын
Wow man, I don't know you at all, but well done! You nailed my favorite band with so much detail and so comprehensive. Much love! Thank you from a huge fan of the band.
@adamschwass8050
@adamschwass8050 2 ай бұрын
I'm an 80's hard rock/ metal kid and It's still what I listen too, but I love your videos. In the early 2000's I lived with a few Straight edge fellas (absolutely genuine and amazing humans). They turned me onto AFI and a few other bands. Fantastic band and fantastic educational videos on your end. 👆👍🤘
@evanhancock4657
@evanhancock4657 2 жыл бұрын
The virgin expensive youtuber backdrop vs the chad Mother In Law’s spare room
@waterfowlwarriors5495
@waterfowlwarriors5495 16 күн бұрын
Lmao😂
@leetatlock4110
@leetatlock4110 2 жыл бұрын
This Celluloid Dream might be one of my all time favorite songs!
@woofenzo
@woofenzo Жыл бұрын
Black sails -> All Hallow’s EP -> art of drowning era…… still some of my favourite all time music to this day. Can remember as a 17 year old listening to that in 99
@mry82
@mry82 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@diaperenthusiast
@diaperenthusiast 6 ай бұрын
Heyyo, 1982 stand up! Let's get in a knife fight about the 🎶
@bettneyskye
@bettneyskye Жыл бұрын
i thoroughly enjoyed, and find i agree with you on pretty much every little bit of this!! :D. though i had NO idea what a "hardcore scene" was at the time (or now either) i didn't even see The Leaving Song Pt. II music video much, as i didn't have a computer or tv back then. but i do remember being in awe of how they could flow through SO many "reinventings" and have many fans push against every single one of those transitions, yet they still managed to crush it wonderfully and epically. and i think most of that has to do with the fact that Davey performs his heart out every step of the way, and they stay true to who they are. 100% raw authenticity and 0% pandering.
@Rikkrtreat
@Rikkrtreat 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty stoked on this video. I appreciate that even though you’re not the biggest AFI fan, you respect their importance in the scene. They are definitely a huge gateway into darker genres such as horror punk, goth and post punk, as well as hardcore and post hardcore.
@sarasilva6888
@sarasilva6888 2 жыл бұрын
Sing the Sorrow was my intro to AFI and I FELL IN LOVE...Such a great album! I was 13-14...such an iconic time....still feels weird that it was such a while back....it literally feels like yesterday. Miss those times--definitely was a very high period for the alternative/rock scene/esthetic..myspace..hot topic...the clothes you wore actually meant something.. and you could identify your crew and people who liked what you liked.....whereas nowadays, everyone just looks the same and people just wear whatever everyone else wears...its just a huge meaningless melting pot....alas... what I would do to get a time machine to back!!
@ryanmason74
@ryanmason74 2 жыл бұрын
Mine was The Boy Who Sold The World, on THPS.
@aaroncross1287
@aaroncross1287 Жыл бұрын
This comment here is why I'm glad Im a 90s kid and want 14 till the 00s lmfao iconic time... Sing the Sorrow... So glad I got great music growing up
@Michael-kp4bd
@Michael-kp4bd Жыл бұрын
There are great scenes and fantastic bands out there today. The world of Spotify has changed things a bit so that quite a few listeners don’t go as deep into bands (and less focus on FULL albums, which were so monumental) and identify with them, but rather come across single after single… but at the same time, some do - and some Spotify playlist or recommendation might have been their entry point. There’s a lot of what feels like cookie cutter garbage out now, but that’s always been the case. Every decade past is looked on with rose colored glasses as “the time of good music” when in reality, we remember the good stuff, and the garbage is forgotten or mocked and not considered quintessential. Just a thought. I’m actually amazed that pop-punk is back in full force with Gen Z teens, i thought we’d need another decade for a resurgence. Does it compare to punk and hardcore of the 2000s? Probably not, but some of it will turn out to be timeless. If not for us, for the kids growing up with really solid artists currently hitting the scene. Rock’s not dead!
@Douggydrealer
@Douggydrealer 10 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more!! It may be nostalgia but there’s something to be said about pop cultures drastic change. You just don’t see many cliches anymore!! Where have all the punks gone 😂
@lawsontalks918
@lawsontalks918 Жыл бұрын
Recently started to indulge in your craft, thus far my favorite upload.
@88Frank
@88Frank Жыл бұрын
I am LOVING these videos, thank you!
@StayLoose
@StayLoose 2 жыл бұрын
AFI is one of my favorite bands of all time. Skipped over an important fact to mention. When the bands sound drastically changed to a much more melodic sound on Black Sails, that was largely in part to the addition of guitarist Jade Puget.
@NiRvAnA6890
@NiRvAnA6890 2 жыл бұрын
Jade started playing with them in shut your mouth and open your eyes. It was Davey who wanted to incorporate all the weird literature he was reading at that time into the song writing and thus affected the musical style in the end.
@StayLoose
@StayLoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiRvAnA6890 Most of that is incorrect. Jade started joined AFI Nov 2, 1998. Shut your mouth came out in Nov 1997. Theres interviews where jade talks about joining. The first song they wrote together was Malleus Maleficarum off Black Sails. I wont disagree Davey is the lyrical component, but i am speaking from a sonic stand point here. Definitely do some research :)
@Leechwife
@Leechwife Жыл бұрын
Jade is such a sweet heart
@jareddoran6605
@jareddoran6605 Жыл бұрын
​@@StayLoose I mean, Jade is credited on Shut Your Mouth on "additional guitars", and he was living with them before Mark left the band, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had some creative influence on that album
@abiwankinobi
@abiwankinobi 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Girls not Grey on the radio and immediately knew they were something special. I bought Sing the Sorrow on the day it came out and I was blown away. I bought every album backwards after that, and I couldn't believe I never knew about this band. I was happy that I saw them live in concert twice, once during the Sing the Sorrow era and once a few years ago opening for the Smashing Pumpkins.
@Dunskaroo
@Dunskaroo 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving “shut your mouth and…” proper respect. saw that one on tour and whitnessed Davey catching a flying jumpkick to the face from a sXe hardcore kid.
@ericwright7570
@ericwright7570 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was super informative. I have been listening to AFI since Miss Murder came out on guitar hero. They are probably my favorite band since the Smashing Pumpkins. I always listen to them while doing chores. At first, I was annoyed that you kept mentioning that you weren't a big fan, but now I'm impressed because you gave a good review despite it. I think they grow on you. I just bought tickets to see them tomorrow in Buckhead Atlanta.
@tadavis12
@tadavis12 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward to you doing a video about AFI. They’re the kind of band that I always seem to go back to every once in a while. I really dig their old stuff when they were more of a skate punk band. My favorite album from them is “very proud of ya”
@adamg.manning6088
@adamg.manning6088 2 жыл бұрын
Can we also just appreciate that Davey and Jade apparently have access to the Fountain of Youth? Jade looks younger than me and I’m 32.
@racoonzattack
@racoonzattack 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They're drinking that Keanu Reeves and Brandon Flowers water!
@darkwave9345
@darkwave9345 2 жыл бұрын
Jade and davey look ancient now...what crack are you on. The only one who hasn't aged is Hunter
@lifeandliberty0172
@lifeandliberty0172 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he looks creepy as hell, a grown man who looks like a 12 yr old boy....
@starlifeforce
@starlifeforce 2 жыл бұрын
Vegan diet and sober lifestyle. They all look like they workout too.
@adamg.manning6088
@adamg.manning6088 2 жыл бұрын
@@starlifeforce No booze definitely helps. Alcohol ruins your skin.
@nfectorlite
@nfectorlite Жыл бұрын
just now saw this video and i have to say, its cool to see the grainy live video you have included. I was at that show at the Phoenix theater in norcal.
@candypolanco825
@candypolanco825 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how, even though not a fan of their current sound, you are able to present the larger picture and pay your respects to an undeniably great and influential band.
@jasonmizuno6117
@jasonmizuno6117 2 жыл бұрын
Finn, no love for Art of Drowning? Easily there best album imo, it is a masterpiece.
@gregvanbeek9797
@gregvanbeek9797 2 жыл бұрын
I would have said that's when the Goth really started hard also! Black Sails and AOD are 2 of the best albums getting around!
@gabemckay6718
@gabemckay6718 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite albums of all time
@McMullet97
@McMullet97 2 жыл бұрын
One of my personal favourites is Totalimmortal from the All Hallows EP, definitely were ahead of their time in the late 90s 🤘🏼
@RawPower867
@RawPower867 2 жыл бұрын
Art of Drowning is a prime slice of goth punk. Still one of the best albums of all time.
@rubberlover666
@rubberlover666 2 жыл бұрын
It was a weird time when AFI and Alkaline Trio were suddenly “we’re vampires now.” But as someone into a bunch of different types of music back when it wasn’t cool, I was into it. Before that, I was stoked when Indecision covered Siouxsie and the Banshees or Kill Your Idols wore Joy Division shirts. But that was it. Not super into the hardcore to New Order pipeline taking place these days, but there’s no doubt AFI was a huge push in that direction. Bands just got more interesting after them.
@kanguruuafi
@kanguruuafi 9 ай бұрын
cool video. as a brazilian is nice to see this kind of stuff and know about the stories from these bands that i started to llistening to when i was young. thx!
@GaztGallery
@GaztGallery Жыл бұрын
Man, your channel is amazing, so nostalgic... i actually didn't knew the backstory of half of those 2007's bands XD
@ThePunkRockMBA
@ThePunkRockMBA Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@J0hnGustafson
@J0hnGustafson 2 жыл бұрын
@The Punk Rock MBA I’m sick at home today and this was the perfect thing to find waiting in my feed. Still my favorite band after all these years and it’s great seeing them get a dedicated profile like this. Excellent job and thanks for making today suck a little less 👍
@timoratus_music
@timoratus_music 2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget the look on my friends face as we put in Sing the Sorrow on his cars stereo for the first time after he bought it from Best Buy. The look of betrayal was always hilarious to me lol
@ChaosandComics
@ChaosandComics 2 жыл бұрын
So funny. Being older this has happened so much to all of us by this point.
@adamg378
@adamg378 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same experience. It was so disappointing. Kinda funny to hear him call it a masterpiece.
@oldladytrexarms
@oldladytrexarms 2 жыл бұрын
They just need to expand their tastes. I can't imagine being a fan of only one type of music. Thanks to being open-minded, I've seen hundreds of bands in concert and met lots of band people because of going to different shows and festivals. Your friend is missing out.
@timoratus_music
@timoratus_music 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldladytrexarms oh I totally agree, but we were a couple of 17 year old punk kids from the suburb. We have totally branched out now but let's face it people when they're young have a very limited scope.
@Jeanettic
@Jeanettic 6 ай бұрын
Nice to find a video giving well-deserved recognition to AFI. They're not my favorite band but it's undeniable how talented and innovative they are and have been. They sound amazing live; very professional with their craft, and I just LOVE that the original band members have stayed together for so long.
@dylantodd9574
@dylantodd9574 Жыл бұрын
These videos are so great that I find myself rewatching them every so often.
@TheNotoriousIAN
@TheNotoriousIAN 2 жыл бұрын
I think the thing about AFI that has helped them a lot is that throughout all their stylistic changes, it has all felt authentic.
@Black_Jesus3005
@Black_Jesus3005 2 жыл бұрын
This!👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽
@paeden5431
@paeden5431 2 жыл бұрын
It's anything but authentic. It's the literally opposite of authentic. They just wanted your money.
@fredd3233
@fredd3233 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed!
@jerit7529
@jerit7529 2 жыл бұрын
@@paeden5431 The fact that they didn't ride out the December underground sound, which was extremely lucrative for them contradicts your statement. Are a bunch of nearly 50 year old guys supposed to still be making skate punk music about how hard it is to be a kid? They aren't Blink 182.
@derekperry4150
@derekperry4150 2 жыл бұрын
@@paeden5431 Right they suck...
@Tamajyn69
@Tamajyn69 2 жыл бұрын
I’d heard black sails a few times and some older stuff which was kinda cool but nothing had ever grabbed me, but I still remember the day Sing The Sorrow dropped and I was standing in the record store with my friends and noticed they had it on one of the promotional stands with the headphones in the middle of the store like they used to do and decided to have a listen, as soon as the first track Miseria Canatare started I knew right away this was something special and when the drum beat dropped and davey’s vocals started I decided right then and there I was buying it. Still my all time fave record of any band ever to this day and holds a special place in my heart
@paulsecrest9427
@paulsecrest9427 2 жыл бұрын
Art of drowning. Is good. Ever checked out son of sam.
@AndrewDasilvaPLT
@AndrewDasilvaPLT 2 ай бұрын
I can't help it when she cries, my soul brings tears to angelic eyes. - Davey Havok
@larryra
@larryra 13 күн бұрын
I’ll never forget hearing “Girls not Grey” in 2003… a friend let me borrow his copy of the cd and it blew me away. Sing the sorrow was the only rock cd I ever owned. It single handedly made me a fan of the genre. 🤘🏾
@Mowgi
@Mowgi 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, "posted 31 seconds ago"... nice. Secondly, After CM Punk's return, I was watching some old ROH entrances a couple of days ago, and came across his entrance using Miseria Cantare and it got me on am AFI binge.
@scaryboi2897
@scaryboi2897 2 жыл бұрын
Sing the sorrow is one of my all time favorite albums. That intro still gives me chills - "Nothing from nowhere, I'm no one at all. Radiate, recognize one silent call as we all form one dark flame... incinerate"
@IMAMONGUS
@IMAMONGUS 2 жыл бұрын
"You! Are now! One....one of us!!!"
@AlexanderLeGrand17
@AlexanderLeGrand17 2 жыл бұрын
I always go back and struggle between Miseria Cantare or Prelude as AFI’s best intros.
@1GuyWith6Guns
@1GuyWith6Guns 2 жыл бұрын
My roommate and I were playing SoulCalibur II back in the day. We fired up the game and the album at the same time. Miseria Cantare went along with the opening video like it was made for it.
@scaryboi2897
@scaryboi2897 2 жыл бұрын
@@1GuyWith6Guns that sounds awesome!
@sincerelypat
@sincerelypat 10 ай бұрын
I love when you do deep dives on bands and things just like this. I hope one day you do rise against. but keep doing you Fin. love your vids dood.
@nehendrix711
@nehendrix711 2 ай бұрын
I literally love every single AFI album like their musical progression mirrored my own musical progression through like middle school into high school and then beyond. Love them. ❤
@SaraShayne
@SaraShayne 2 жыл бұрын
It's been such a pleasure watching AFI get all the praise and respect that they deserve in the last 10ish years. Coming up in a hardcore punk scene in my youth, when I got into AFI between the sorrow and du era, there was no other band that got shit on more, especially during Decemberunderground, and if you liked them then you were into mainstream bullshit. I remember when when those same hardcore kids got a little older and more refined, suddenly more people started coming out of the woodwork singing AFI's praises, not just for their early stuff but for all of it. I love to see it, love to see it.
@oldladytrexarms
@oldladytrexarms 2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird now how much respect they're getting. I got hated on so much (especially for liking Crash Love) and now people are finally seeing how much AFI rocks. It's just interesting watching this happen over the past 17 years or so. (Only knew them when I discovered STS but I love all their past stuff, now.)
@tarantulakat
@tarantulakat 2 жыл бұрын
Decemberunderground was my first introduction to AFI and it dropped right as I was entering high school. It was also my first introduction to more alternative music .. and I was in love right away! I got the album, then I got Sing the Sorrow and eventually every album back in order. I joined the Despair Faction, and quickly realized us “new emo kids” at the time were very frowned upon in their fandom. I was bullied by older fans, tons of them mocked and hated Miss Murder and it was super uncool to admit you were brought in by that song. Which, looking back, was kind of pathetic considering most of us were like 14 years old and these were grown adults mad that we were entering the same band’s fan base lol. I felt like we constantly had to “prove” ourselves as “real” AFI fans (it’s not a phase, mom!) and that became exhausting. But then Crash Love came out, and I was still here. And then Burials which is one of my other favorite AFI albums. There was an EP in there somewhere and the new Bodies album was great! Now I can’t believe 2006 was so long ago, and I’m almost 30. All the “emo kids” that entered the fan base are almost 30 😳 yikes! But AFI not only pulled me into more alternative music, they also introduced me to a whole scene and bands I would’ve never known. One important thing you didn’t mention (or maybe I missed it) is their amazing stage presence. They are more amazing live! Their shows are an experience, and their shows managed to unite their fanbase even in the big fan shift in 2006. “Through our bleeding we are one” To conclude this comment, I also want to mention meeting them each, they are all so friendly! I can’t believe they perform these crazy shows and still have the energy to talk to us outside after. After one show, I saw a guy who kind of wondered over to us all approach Adam and ask if he had any change. He had no idea who Adam was, just a random guy walking by asking for help and Adam without hesitation opened his wallet and handed him cash. M Anyway, to this day I am proud to show my AFI tattoos and once it’s safe again I am so ready to see a show, to hear some tracks off Bodies live for the first time! Thank you for making this! I feel like for some reason they get forgotten about behind other great bands like my chemical romance.
@butHomeisNowhere___
@butHomeisNowhere___ 2 жыл бұрын
I distinctly remember how many people would meme on anyone wearing a studded belt/skinny jeans combo back then. I had like two sides to my friend group. The skate punks and the emo kids, and I kinda straddled the middle. The amount of times I had to defend someone JUST because they wore eyeliner or skinny jeans was ridiculous. Anyway, Sing the Sorrows Leaving Song Pt II blew my mind and I've been an admirer ever since!
@butHomeisNowhere___
@butHomeisNowhere___ 2 жыл бұрын
Annnnd, as I posted this comment, I realized I have a fucking AFI name on youtube that I TOTALLY forgot about lmao
@joshuaholman7760
@joshuaholman7760 2 жыл бұрын
Same. And its still one of my favorite albums. Though I love most of everything they put out, the bands just that good.
@tarantulakat
@tarantulakat 2 жыл бұрын
@@butHomeisNowhere___ yes!! I feel like people don’t remember how emo/scene was very criticized and we were bullied not only by the “normal” people but the more alternative scene as well. It was not a good idea to admit you were “emo” or even enjoyed more emo music. Eventually it became more mainstream, but it almost feels like by the time it was more accepted it started to die down!
@nicholasromig5506
@nicholasromig5506 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta ask, were you ever on the AFI board? there were a lot of jerks on there.
@RoubaixTalonLager
@RoubaixTalonLager Жыл бұрын
Great vid - awesome tribute to such an excellent band
@Casey3-P-O
@Casey3-P-O Жыл бұрын
Third Season from Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes (1997) is my favorite AFI song of all time. The rest of the album is pretty fast paced compared to that track, but they slowed it down and added a bit of groove to that song, and it's awesome. The music video is super cool too. Very simple, but very good. I love the bass part. It's one of my favorite songs to play on guitar currently.
@annae2375
@annae2375 2 жыл бұрын
I got into AFI my freshman year of high school (2006) when Decemberunderground and Miss Murder came out. I loved it so much I dived in headfirst into their discography. Black Sails is still my personal fav (especially Malleus Maleficarem) and I still listen to htem on repeat. Thanks for another great informational video!
@purpl3spri7e
@purpl3spri7e 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still crazy to me how AFI was getting heavy radio play during the mid-2000s. I miss those times.
@joshuaholman7760
@joshuaholman7760 2 жыл бұрын
It was a great time to be a teen. I doubt bands like that will ever be given heavy radio play ever again. All that alternative music we had being played constantly made freshman year great.
@tylercooke1288
@tylercooke1288 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaholman7760 I think the radio and tv-stations have somehow gotten eveeeeb moooore watered down and "safe" since the proliferation of YT channels like this and streaming services like Spotify... Where I live, near Toronto, there's very few radio stations that play new music, and they don't play new music exclusively! I still can't get used to Nirvana being "classic rock", and that said, All Hallows E.P is almost "classic rock" 😅 damn I feel old
@mramisuzuki6962
@mramisuzuki6962 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylercooke1288 bro, I heard Blink-182 on WOGL.
@tylercooke1288
@tylercooke1288 2 жыл бұрын
@@mramisuzuki6962 not sure what WOGL is 😬 blink 182 is a good example of that, I think, too! Enema of the state is considered classic rock, now! A lot of people were exposed to Blink182 through mainstream movies like American Pie and other teen comedies, and they became huuuge and were subsequently a gateway band, turning people onto "punk",exposing a lot of people to other, lesser-known bands that were still in the underground scene or on smaller independent labels
@joshuaholman7760
@joshuaholman7760 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylercooke1288 its crazy realizing that Nirvana and Alice in chains is deep in the era of classic rock now. And our classic rock channel in my city is starting to play early linkin Park and stained, as well as evanescence💀💀. Im not ready to for that reality lol.
@theeclecticlifewithsam
@theeclecticlifewithsam 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Sing the Sorrow came out when I was in undergrad. Super popular back then. We used to play that album nonstop at work. Crazy vocals and memorable riffs. Awesome band!
@alyssakuder4161
@alyssakuder4161 Жыл бұрын
Sing the sorrow was a key turning point in my music taste developing and diving into the punk and hardcore scene. They will always be my favorite band and I’m excited for their future.
@MyDarkRealityBand
@MyDarkRealityBand 2 жыл бұрын
I love how unbiased you are and the extent to your research too. Your passion for music is inspiring.
@jayking6360
@jayking6360 2 жыл бұрын
Girl's Not Grey was my introduction to this band. I didn't find out about their older stuff until 2007.
@oldladytrexarms
@oldladytrexarms 2 жыл бұрын
That video, the song, and Davey's looks made me fall in love with the band and I haven't stopped loving them, since.
@iBenjamin1000
@iBenjamin1000 2 жыл бұрын
oh that must be the song I heard from this band
@bry4095
@bry4095 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@anialopatiuk2467
@anialopatiuk2467 2 жыл бұрын
Ilove them, especially 4the poetry,and how they talk 2audience,this is unigue!I discovered themin2005,i think,and when i heard this tenor,i fell in love!Melody!Songwriting!Poetry, everything is well done!
@anialopatiuk2467
@anialopatiuk2467 2 жыл бұрын
Love them4staying true!
@erickdavid4257
@erickdavid4257 10 ай бұрын
thank you for documenting this
@24fretsoffury
@24fretsoffury Жыл бұрын
As an emo kid in 2003-2005, Sing the Sorrow and Decemberunderground were my anthems. I had the AFI tote bag from hot topic, wore their shirts, everything. True, I was bullied for liking them, graffiti popped up around the school “AFI is gay” I vividly remember. “This Celluloid Dream” still fucks to this day. Oh and I will still fight for the Fall Out Boy album “From Under The Cork Tree” as the best album of the 2000’s, every song is a banger. Best party album.
@anonamatron
@anonamatron 5 ай бұрын
Well you stand up loud and proud and tell them you're not ashamed of being gay.
@mikethefilth5197
@mikethefilth5197 2 жыл бұрын
AFI was the band that made me check out a lot of their influences when I was a teenager, I found a lot of 80s post punk/gothic rock bands like killing joke, the cult, christian death and sisters of mercy.
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@fernandoretamalesl
@fernandoretamalesl 2 жыл бұрын
For Sing the Sorrow, I think Butch Vig's collaboration is not as important for producing Nevermind but as it is for producing Smashing Pumpkins' Gish and Siamese Dream - not only AFI were exploring broader sensibilities and styles like the Pumpkins, but also Vig had great experience already with helping a band evolve and explode.
@Coldeternal
@Coldeternal 3 ай бұрын
I'm 10 years older and AFI was my midlife crisis band. It threw me back to the punk scene and introduced me to so much more including turning straightedge at the age of 28. At 53 I am still straightedge, and they continue to be one of my favorite bands. Gotta agrree 100% with Ben.❤❤🎉
@PandaMom9230
@PandaMom9230 Жыл бұрын
I was like 11-12 years old and my older brother threw Sing the Sorrow cd at me and told me “listen to this until you like it” because he figured out when we were little kids that I had a passion for music. I loved AFI instantly. I just introduced them to my 13 year old daughter tonight and she was digging them.
@buffalo666
@buffalo666 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Finn. AFI was the band responsible for... every musical choice I've made since the age of 12.
@troublemaker3377
@troublemaker3377 2 жыл бұрын
Since 95' ive gone through every reimagining of this band. They didn't introduce me to hardcore but they did solidify me as a hardcore kid. There were years where i could not stand to listen to an album only to years later swear that same album is a masterpiece. Every time they dropped something new it was an experience since you had no idea what you were going to get. The same reason i love them so much was why id get so hurt when they'd flip the script. Seriously a couple of their albums hurt my feelings like "how could they do this to me"? I wanted more of what they did and they were already doing something completely different. I can now appreciate half their discography while the other half i cherish. Through it all though they've been my favorite band by a huge margin. Thank you for this video, it was spot on. Cheers!
@Leechwife
@Leechwife Жыл бұрын
I NEEDED this video without knowing it. Thank you.
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