Should We Buy a Condo At Our Age?

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@maryrenaud6732
@maryrenaud6732 3 жыл бұрын
Our paid in full condo costs per month: $297 condo maintenance, $52 for ins, $48 (homesteaded) property taxes, $82 electric = $479 per month including cable, water, and building insurance. Way cheaper than rent...but no mortgage is the key!
@karmasutra4774
@karmasutra4774 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you living?
@CityCinderella
@CityCinderella Жыл бұрын
Lol exactly - they’re prolly retired
@cashmerefire7335
@cashmerefire7335 7 ай бұрын
Do those things keep going up or pretty fixed?
@xro1983
@xro1983 5 ай бұрын
You couldn’t pay me to move into a condo with todays rates
@iriana_official162
@iriana_official162 4 ай бұрын
They most likely go up each year & with inflation it would go up a lot.
@rachelalexander685
@rachelalexander685 3 жыл бұрын
We sold everything including our car and back packed & biked everywhere we went for a year! It’s rejuvenating! So glad I was able to let go of the material items to get rid of debt and live freely!
@karmasutra4774
@karmasutra4774 6 ай бұрын
What did you do after that year?
@azteca6695
@azteca6695 3 жыл бұрын
Get a 30yr mortgage. And give extra payments as you can. Because "sheet" happens. That's what we did. Paid off in 18yrs
@too-da-loo
@too-da-loo 3 жыл бұрын
I do the same with loans. I take the max length (within reason vs interest rate), then pay extra and pay it off in half the time. I like the flexibility.
@limitone9564
@limitone9564 3 жыл бұрын
I am in the middle of deciding to get 15 or 30 loan, how about the difference of the interest rate on both loans even if you paid it off early ... what's the difference in savings on both loans?
@ronaldcoleman312
@ronaldcoleman312 3 жыл бұрын
I’m the same, my next move is to buy a home. I’m going to put it on a 30 then make bi weekly payments and add extra to try to cut it down to 15-20 years of payments. Just because life happens and I have children
@chrisstaub5880
@chrisstaub5880 3 жыл бұрын
Dave accounts for the possibility of "sheet happens" in his recommendation already. That's why he also says that the mortgage payment should be less than 1/4 take-home pay. Also, suggesting getting a 30-year mortgage and paying it off like a 15 is missing the point. The idea is to get a 15-year and pay it off in more like 7-10 years.
@ronaldcoleman312
@ronaldcoleman312 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstaub5880 that advice is fine for people with higher incomes. 20-25 percent of 60 thousand a year on a 15 year fixed isn’t doable for a lot of people especially depending on the area you live in. Factor in kids with that it’s a recipe for disaster
@sami-9233
@sami-9233 3 жыл бұрын
I am single female, living in a apartment Dave:way to go!!!
@user-td7xf3gz4l
@user-td7xf3gz4l 3 жыл бұрын
It was the debt payoff he was cheering haha
@riverdaletales8457
@riverdaletales8457 3 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with living in an apartment?
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@@riverdaletales8457 I don't see anything wrong. Many of the newer apartments where I live are looking pretty good,gated,better quality with soundproofing,security,and attached or unattached garages.
@brennan_mclachlan
@brennan_mclachlan 3 жыл бұрын
@@riverdaletales8457 you’re missing the point, it’s not a bad thing, but it would be a weird thing to cheer. Obviously he was cheering for her debt though, but the OP’s comment is a joke.
@coconutwater4531
@coconutwater4531 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 that took me out. Awkward timing. Even she was confused
@stevee8318
@stevee8318 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Condo / HOAs isn't really the fees, which are a good or bad deal depending on the value you get in exchange (lawn care, snow removal, maintaining/repairing common structures, etc) it's the frequently ridiculous rules and that the associations are typically run by the people you'd least want to govern you - nosy, busy body, judgmental Karens.
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@toriyt2714
@toriyt2714 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@vince8520
@vince8520 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I rather deal with a landlord and neighbors as a renter than a condo owner. at least when you rent and people around you drive you nuts, you just pack up and leave
@Cathy-xi8cb
@Cathy-xi8cb 3 жыл бұрын
If you buy a condo w/o the understanding that your life is impacted by the HOA and your neighbors on the board...you are an idiot or immature. This is common knowledge.
@Cathy-xi8cb
@Cathy-xi8cb 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackworldtraveler3711 Get on the board, and find out what you don't know. It will change your decisions going forward, even if you stay. I spent an enlightening two years on mine. Education you can't get from a document or your lawyer. Still in my unit, and wiser for the time spent.
@exmerion
@exmerion 2 жыл бұрын
People sneer at HOA fees in condos until they actually add up how much money they end up spending in maintenance over the lifetime of the SFH mortgage. Also the price range you have access to you at 60k a year would have you weighing a brand new condo vs a 10+ year old house or even older depending on your area. Also depending on your area, you will pay much lower taxes on a condo. The biggest downside to a condo is trying to figure out if the property is properly managed.
@theacademic10
@theacademic10 Жыл бұрын
100% agree but completely depends on the area. Here in Australia there aren’t a lot of them even in the suburbs, so they still aren’t cheap. Houses have better capital gains generally. And with interest rates atm it’s hard to get positive cash flow with anything. So capital gains are important from an investment point of view. Doesn’t really matter if your just looking to avoid rent/mortgage tho.
@LB81RN
@LB81RN Ай бұрын
Seeing this just 2 years later. All the new condos in my small town in Ohio are minimum $250,000 now. HOA's in the $400's a month. It's nuts. And these condos don't have amenities like pools and exercise rooms. Just the condo. That's it.
@ynnadssom
@ynnadssom 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use a Roth like the caller suggests, but Anthony is incorrect: you can withdrawn principal (not interest) from a Roth at any time without penalty.
@kaliffoo
@kaliffoo 3 жыл бұрын
But the point of putting it into the Roth would be to earn interest. If you are not going to touch the interest then you can just leave it in the savings account.
@nathananthony7517
@nathananthony7517 2 жыл бұрын
You can also take out and additional 10% of the earnings for a down payment, if you're a first time home buyer. I think using the Roth for a home down payment can be sound advice, if you are still saving 15% in other retirement vehicles like a 401k.
@Seethi_C
@Seethi_C 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaliffoo The interest you gained will still grow in the fund after withdrawing the contributions, you don’t lose it
@JoeShearer-b3b
@JoeShearer-b3b Жыл бұрын
The reason he said put the money in a Roth IRA is because the IRS allows up to 10k exclusion of gains for first purchase of a home! That’s a great idea, the guy giving advice is a clown. You could put 15k in a Roth IRA over a few years, have 10k of gains in the market, and then have 25k for the down payment TAX FREE! This just goes to show they don’t really know what they’re talking about lol. The guy said “put it in a mutual fund in a taxable brokerage account” that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
@babyhuggz
@babyhuggz 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great call! Stability and the ability to save quickly and know where to put the money is very important
@collinrosendall8369
@collinrosendall8369 3 жыл бұрын
I’m
@brad9092
@brad9092 3 жыл бұрын
“Correct me if I’m wrong, Dave.” These are wasted words. Believe it, Dave will correct you if you are wrong!
@HorrorFreak68
@HorrorFreak68 3 жыл бұрын
Correction. Dave won't necessarily correct you if you're wrong; however, he will correct you if he disagrees.
@Mike_Thompson
@Mike_Thompson 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony needs to read up on Roth IRA rules. You can pull your contributions and even your earnings if it's for a first-time home purchase without penalty.
@harrychufan
@harrychufan 3 жыл бұрын
Still kinda a waste of that precious roth space. Roth’s are awesome when 95% of your acct value is gains, not so much when it’s like 20%.
@lionelhuts875
@lionelhuts875 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrychufan But she's going to waste the annual contribution anyway. Doesn't seem like she has enough income to do both the Roth and save for the down payment.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he looks at it as strictly retirement savings growing,reinvesting,compounding,etc. tax free through the years like myself and have other savings/investment accounts.
@alextogo8367
@alextogo8367 3 жыл бұрын
Getting an investment portfolio makes more sense.
@Cathy-xi8cb
@Cathy-xi8cb 3 жыл бұрын
Occurred to me that the advisor thinks she isn't going to successfully save enough for a home, and then she would have access to it as an emergency fund, as a home down payment, as well as a retirement vehicle. This woman isn't necessarily going to be a homeowner in the future. If she hasn't in the past, doing it as she gets older is iffy. At best. She could lose her job, become disabled, etc. This would give her some options without the tax issue if she removes the money before 59.5.
@emydan
@emydan 3 жыл бұрын
She is not including condo association fee which is not fixed.
@onekoolfella
@onekoolfella 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Some places in the U.S. those fees are almost if not more than rent.
@colleen6050
@colleen6050 3 жыл бұрын
and HOA is not tax deductible. A big waste of money.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@@colleen6050 Not a waste here. I can afford where I live and have zero debt so not concerned at all about tax deduction. I want the nice landscaping,streets,heated pools,tennis courts,club houses,security,gates,4k cameras,etc. among other things like salary,insurance,etc.. There's a constant waiting list to live here and other place. I will be in Europe for the next three months and not worried about my places in the U.S..
@SingingBeeize
@SingingBeeize 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying “take home pay”.
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah take home pay SHOULD be after health insurance and 401k up t employer match because you should be doing both!
@suttsd
@suttsd 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDjcarter1966 Dave just said take home pay is what is left after taxes. Excluding 401k and such. Yea you should be doing those but they really aren't mandatory.
@COOLDUDERBALD
@COOLDUDERBALD 2 жыл бұрын
Buying property is to much of a mess and way to expensive these days.
@CaptainProx
@CaptainProx 10 ай бұрын
The only thing doing a 15 year fixed is going to do is make your payments more strict and give you less flexibility Instead of paying $1000 a month on a 15, you could pay $500 plus an extra $500 if you wish and pay it off just as fast
@vince8520
@vince8520 3 жыл бұрын
Condo ownership cost will go up with inflation, just like rent. between the condo fees, insurance and everything else it is the same thing as a rent increase. So I don't understand why you would move from 800$ a month rent to a 1200-1300$ a month condo ownership expense. I totally disagree with Dave on this one
@dw8027
@dw8027 3 жыл бұрын
Because you get equity, most condo HOAs cover a lot of things like roofs etc. Other then a new AC not a tone of expenses things to worry about
@joyaustin6581
@joyaustin6581 3 жыл бұрын
A condo to me seems like a glorified rental
@narutolol3199
@narutolol3199 Жыл бұрын
@@joyaustin6581 you can't sell a rental, you can't use a rental as equity... how? this is a stupid comment lol
@drof2th
@drof2th 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is missing ta key point! Just like rent will go up in time, HOA’s will go up too!
@jeffmorse5599
@jeffmorse5599 3 жыл бұрын
so won't the cost of paying people to do the work if you don't want to do it yourself or have the ability to do it yourself like most lifetime renters. HOA's go up because those same costs go up. Condos are not bad for many people. Perfect for older people and single women.
@michaelh5055
@michaelh5055 3 жыл бұрын
Stay away from a HOA at all costs.. They are an absolute nightmare and defeat the freedom of owning a home. They do not increase or maintain the value of a home. When you try to sell, as soon as you say HOA. Most people say thank you for your time, but no thanks. My real estate agent friend says a home in a HOA usually takes 2-3 times longer to sell. The sellers get frustrated and sell for much less than asking price. She says she prefers to not take on a HOA home. Lots of time wasted trying to sell it
@MP-nj1qy
@MP-nj1qy 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmorse5599 Great perspective
@raallen1468
@raallen1468 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmorse5599 Condos MAY be okay for older people/single women IF they can afford ever-increa$ing "HOA/COA Fee$" Always look 10-20 yrs down the road.....
@prometheuspredator7971
@prometheuspredator7971 3 жыл бұрын
Also, property tax and home owners insurance will increase. Also, take in account putting in new plumbing in your home and replacing your heating and air unit, and paying someone to mow and upkeep your yard and making necessary home repairs. Just alot of things to consider when you own a home. Plus, another thing you have to deal with is troublesome neighbors. So, you have to think seriously about what is in your best interest to either rent an apartment or a condominium, or buy a home. You have to think about the quality of your life and what is easier for you with less worries. Alot of people think that renting an apartment is fruitless, but take in account what you would have to pay for when owning a home or condominium. There are downfalls if you either rent or own.
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I thought "take home" was after deducting rice & beans, beans & rice?
@Stevenwoodz
@Stevenwoodz 2 жыл бұрын
I agree to a point. Why are you buying a home only for you to leave it to who? yes your rent will go up but you don’t pay maintenance cost on a building. You are a single individual unless you’re leaving this home to family members why are you buying a home?
@Envision95
@Envision95 3 жыл бұрын
He can help out with this age bracket the way Dave looked at him 😂
@BetYouHateMeNow
@BetYouHateMeNow 3 жыл бұрын
lol exactly
@_mrsarcastic_3517
@_mrsarcastic_3517 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 i was looking for this comment...
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
Was he offended?
@Divalive82
@Divalive82 3 жыл бұрын
I read this before I got to that part of the video. 🤣🤣🤣
@twizasichilima7392
@twizasichilima7392 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that was shade right there
@jacobshaw2991
@jacobshaw2991 3 жыл бұрын
If I die, I want my financial situation to be a blessing for my heirs. Leaving them debt, in addition to my death, could be destructive.
@jonala2918
@jonala2918 2 жыл бұрын
She can only afford a tiny condo in the cheapest part of the country if she is gonna be able to put together a high enough down payment so she can get the mortgage down to only 25% of her net income… and at her age?? Dave just glossed over this problem which is very real for many older Americans. Unless they intend on working until they are literally 83 years old
@ivychurch2306
@ivychurch2306 3 жыл бұрын
What about those HOA fees every month required to purchase a condo!!!!
@ayron419
@ayron419 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that can truly get expensive. Some are even over half of the monthly mortgage payment in cost.
@vinish542
@vinish542 7 ай бұрын
bro, $1200 mortgage payments is not bad. I rent a one bedroom for 2100 a month and that’s considered cheap in my area.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
This was three years ago.
@user-ls8rl3mo8e
@user-ls8rl3mo8e 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you guys should have your license to give out this type of advice. It is NOT TRUE that she would be paying penalties in a Roth. You can take 10k out of your Roth to put towards a down payment on your first house. Learn your facts before you open your mouth.
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@yellowpants1008 3 жыл бұрын
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@ericak1949
@ericak1949 3 жыл бұрын
HOA and taxes go up every year so while base mortgage payment may be the same, lots of other things to consider.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on what she wants in a condo. Where I live I pay about $295/mo. for all amenities. Other condos have few to no amenities past maintenance as low as $60/mo.if you don't want the heated pools,extra security,club houses,tennis courts,elaborate landscaping,etc... Up to the individual.
@theelephant2887
@theelephant2887 3 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with using a ROTH? You can take out the money that you put in with no penalty, and leave the interest you`ve gained n there to continue growing
@nowthatsurban
@nowthatsurban 3 жыл бұрын
It can be dangerous because you can lose your principle.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
In my case I had over one million in my Roth in my 40s and many of my coworkers with same salary had between $50k and $100k. Guess why?
@theelephant2887
@theelephant2887 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I would be very interested to know how your money gained so much given the limitation on yearly contribution.
@matthewgardner2144
@matthewgardner2144 3 жыл бұрын
It's Roth, not ROTH. For starters.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@@theelephant2887 Self directed Mega Roth 401k Contribution limit for 2021 is $58k. $5k-$8k/yr company match.
@CaseyBurnsInvesting
@CaseyBurnsInvesting 3 жыл бұрын
You can withdraw principle without a penalty.
@relaxbydiamond
@relaxbydiamond 3 жыл бұрын
You can, but the whole point would be to put it in there for growth, so seems counterproductive to put it in a roth ira to maximize growth and then only take out the principal
@macummings7818
@macummings7818 3 жыл бұрын
@@relaxbydiamond right 👍
@link2299
@link2299 Жыл бұрын
Stabilizes, until you need a new roof, even if it’s a condo, enjoy the 20k cash call. In her case, she literally doesn’t want a house, she said that. Just rent, way less stress.
@N8RTH
@N8RTH 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, with housing costs here in Colorado, a 30y loan is about the only way a regular person can get into a decent home.
@Silidons91
@Silidons91 3 жыл бұрын
(laughs in southern californian)
@Ano-yj1sc
@Ano-yj1sc 3 жыл бұрын
Yep.... I’m in CO Springs, and even if you got your 30 yr, good luck finding a home without extra cash on top of your dp due to the ridiculous inventory.
@jlozano180
@jlozano180 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, same in the northeast
@alexpeguero38
@alexpeguero38 3 жыл бұрын
Worse in NY
@jjfragglerock5020
@jjfragglerock5020 3 жыл бұрын
Townhome owner for 14yrs, my HoA has averaged $12 increase a yr. it’s definitely a big factor to consider.
@A_AccidentRS
@A_AccidentRS 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like just inflation...taxes and insurance average increases too.
@superblump87
@superblump87 3 жыл бұрын
$12 dollar increases a year? Did you have to pick up a second job?
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@superblump87 was that sarcasm 🤭? One could argue $168 can be a lot on an extremely fixed income during retirement😄.
@superblump87
@superblump87 3 жыл бұрын
@@FTYC2022 no sarcasm 🤭. Is the number $12 or $168?
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@superblump87 $12 × 14 yrs = $168
@steve03260
@steve03260 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you for those numbers about age! I am 56 never smoked drank or did drugs so 90s is sounding pretty good ... time to knock out some pushup and sit ups
@vibes1680
@vibes1680 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see people taking care of themselves :)
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
Dave should took take note of his own advice.
@dw8027
@dw8027 3 жыл бұрын
Dave - with most condos you need to put down between 20-25% deepening on community and reserves in the community. Condos generally aren't eligible for FHA loans with those 3.5% dp's which means conventional loans and on condos those aren't always less then 20%
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
Well that’s not true. I’m in the process of buying a condo with 10% down.
@dw8027
@dw8027 3 жыл бұрын
@@euenfheiejrj ‘with most condos’ was the term I used.
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@dw8027 I’ve never heard that and a lot of my friends have condos... maybe it depends on where you live?
@dw8027
@dw8027 3 жыл бұрын
@@euenfheiejrj A large percentage of the condos that I deal with require 20 to 25% down and the only loan you can get in there with is a conventional or non-traditional mortgage product. It really comes down to the community itself and their own bylaws, amount of investors to non-investors in the community and the reserves. Location and community do play a factor
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@dw8027 curious where do you live or where have you seen this? I’m in Chicago for reference. Maybe it’s in smaller cities?
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 3 жыл бұрын
I refuse to live under the supervision of a home owners association.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 2 жыл бұрын
Your choice to live "under" a homeowners association whatever that means.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 3 жыл бұрын
@3:39 Anthony about to flame the caller for trying to buy a home and start off his, "why are you in a rush to buy a home?" when Dave steps in and stomps him out before he sounds more foolish.
@christiewilliams1704
@christiewilliams1704 10 ай бұрын
Yes, this call was a good one. Coincidentially, I was talking to someone about this very subject and he said do a fix if I want a CONDO and we discussed HOMESTEADING (which I am aware of....then at age 62 eliminating taxes altogether)....which stabilize you even more. Well, the gentlemen I was talking to do not like the condo idea at ANY AGE. Matter of fact, I have thrown the subject around to a couple of men in discussion and they ALL roll their eyes about it. I think they are CONDO HATERS. Anyway good convo. I agree.
@JayJay-ii5un
@JayJay-ii5un 5 ай бұрын
Renting is fine
@taps4615
@taps4615 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the advisor said that based on her age and being able to pull it out without penalty but I think better off just putting into index funds and paying capital gains......
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Roth IRA, no. Invest in mutual funds, keep in the same fund over a year. Pay long term capital gains on any profit.
@eckankar7756
@eckankar7756 3 жыл бұрын
she needs a part time job to bring in more income.
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
@@eckankar7756 that or find out how she can increase her income through her current employer.
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mph5896 I disagree with you on no Roth IRA and here’s why. For one she’s not going to be able to save enough in 1yr for down payment unless she turns off saving 15% in retirement. Plus if you invest in stock mutual funds for 1yr then you take greater risk that you might lose money in that time frame.
@eckankar7756
@eckankar7756 3 жыл бұрын
@@famousamos1 or both
@jlove4527
@jlove4527 9 ай бұрын
Not great advice...a condo does not always appreciate. Depends on the building. Same money invested in the market may appreciate more than rent increases. Why do a 15 yrs mortgage. Do a 30 and pay extra each month / pay down faster. Also, payment requirement on a 30 yr is less than a 15. Gives some flexibility if things get tight. These guys are hacks. They should be asking - is the condo building good, will it appreciate in value, are HOA fees reasonable. Money in a condo needs to beat nominal return with same money invested. These guys are giving out advice without a calculator. Think it through.
@moneybee
@moneybee 3 жыл бұрын
Hope she can get that emergency fund funded!
@billjones4986
@billjones4986 6 ай бұрын
Don’t buy a condo in California,to raise the dues homeowners have No say,the board members can just raise the dues,they don’t even live in the condos they own!26 percent owner occupied,went up 20 percent two years in a row!we feel stuck!
@steve1952
@steve1952 3 жыл бұрын
She could compromise for a 20 year loan instead of 15 for lower payments
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
She could compromise for 20yr mortgage however she would be age 78 approximately when it’s paid off. For her to retire at age 70-71 as she said then she should stick with a 15yr so she can live in less during retirement for 15-20yrs.
@chrisstaub5880
@chrisstaub5880 3 жыл бұрын
You also get lower payments by buying a cheaper house. Part of the idea of recommending a 15-year mortgage is that if you need a longer term to comfortably afford the payments, the house is too expensive.
@laladesy7352
@laladesy7352 2 ай бұрын
You can pay more to principal to shorten the term plus you save on interest. You don’t have to do. everything Dave teaches. When I was a loan officer most couldn’t afford a 15 year.
@rethinkcps2116
@rethinkcps2116 3 жыл бұрын
Condo insurance, taxes, maintenance & upkeep *plus* HOA fees will go up. And...occasional 'special assessments.' Dave blows past those. The rising fixed costs of a condo are equal to or higher than SFH in many coastal areas...(Yes, I saw this call was from Ohio, not Miami...)
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
Yup condo HOA are at least $150-250/m!
@1981lashlarue
@1981lashlarue 3 жыл бұрын
You're going to have insurance either way (home owners, renters) along with property taxes. I still think you're coming out ahead though because you are saving time and money in moving, trash removal and not having to worry about replacing the roof and other things. Yes, there are condo dues but in the end, it at least balances out. Plus, insurance is cheaper with a condo than a home. I have a condo and I love it. You are a home owner but with the perks of renting.
@eugenewang4650
@eugenewang4650 2 жыл бұрын
​@@famousamos1 except you never ever have to do homeowner's unpaid labour or hire people to mow lawns & landscape maintenance or any major external structural repairs. Owning a freestanding house comes with these costs which also go up over time. the HOA fees just break down these big incidental expenses into little chunks a month. Yes rent is cheaper in the short term but when youre 'paying' a mortgage, youre essentially saving money into a bank account in the form of brick and mortar rather than consuming it which is what youre doing when paying rent. For internal maintenance, buying a brand new condo that noone else has lived in before will minimise that expense and that is the time when HOA fees will be the lowest.
@armyguy4124
@armyguy4124 3 жыл бұрын
Dave's head movement post " age bracket " comment 😆 😆 😆
@jesusjeronimo8432
@jesusjeronimo8432 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you could take out your initial principle from a roth IRA penalty free? Correct me if I'm wrong
@harrychufan
@harrychufan 3 жыл бұрын
U can and there are special provisions for primary home buying (I would never do either early though)
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
You can. I knew but avoided this. Glad I didn’t take money out because I’m very pleased now because of the automatic reinvesting tax free dividend/interest compounding and growth through the years.
@guykenniker9498
@guykenniker9498 3 жыл бұрын
I own my own home but the cost of taxes insurance and up keep no one thinks of. 70 love my place but getting to the point I need to pay for upkeep
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
Do you regret purchasing?
@leatherface9377
@leatherface9377 3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of a condo but lord having neighbors
@MisterMikeTexas
@MisterMikeTexas 3 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing in Texas and other like states is property taxes replace rent! And they have been skyrocketing! I have close relatives who are contemplating moving to a more rural Texas county south of DFW to save on those.
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
True but Texas has no state income tax.
@MisterMikeTexas
@MisterMikeTexas 3 жыл бұрын
@@famousamos1 That's a good thing for us, but a lot of home owners are being taxed out of their property, and Governor Abbott doesn't seem to be helping in this area. Greedy cities, counties, and school districts, and tax assessors eager to please em!
@natashanolly9489
@natashanolly9489 3 жыл бұрын
100%... my mortgage goes up every year due to taxes. Property taxes are awful and they never go away.
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
@@natashanolly9489 that’s expected that property tax and home insurance goes up over time. As you expect your home value to go up over time. But if you have no mortgage the payments for property tax and home insurance is still at least 50-75% less than renting.
@joseaguirre744
@joseaguirre744 3 жыл бұрын
“Age bracket”
@MrEvilTag
@MrEvilTag 3 жыл бұрын
NO. Condos are an all around waste
@maryrenaud6732
@maryrenaud6732 3 жыл бұрын
Not true. In many areas, Condos are much more affordable than houses. Our all in cost is below $500 per month with no worries about landscape or exterior maintenance, cable, building insurance, etc. This allows a nice retirement with lower overhead than even RV life. Lower cost = lower property taxes. However, if you cannot abide by rules, and living with neighbors, it isn’t for you.
@MrEvilTag
@MrEvilTag 3 жыл бұрын
@@maryrenaud6732 its a glorified apartment and hoas are a joke
@tomtensecretlanguage9273
@tomtensecretlanguage9273 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is such a silly boomer about the 15-year mortgage. Get a 30-year, pay it off AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, and have the loan recast yearly.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
I think the only way a mortgage loan can be recast is by refinancing. But I agree she should go for the 30nyear lower payment plan and reduce her risk. And obviously pay it down as quickly as possible
@tomtensecretlanguage9273
@tomtensecretlanguage9273 5 ай бұрын
@@Fishouta Recast and refinancing are different. A mortgage loan can be recast based on the terms & conditions of the loan.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
@@tomtensecretlanguage9273 ah OK thanks
@silasdietrich7464
@silasdietrich7464 3 жыл бұрын
2:50 what penalities? First time home buyers don't pay a penalty for early withdraw if its for a house from a Roth, only IRA
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
Caller never said she was first time home buyer
@Nintentional
@Nintentional 3 жыл бұрын
False, you do not pay penalties in a ROTH IRA if you withdraw the principle before retirement. A roth IRA is a good place to park your money so long as it’s not in something speculative.
@hollyb6885
@hollyb6885 3 жыл бұрын
I want with a 30 year mortgage but paid double payments most months but didn’t when I had to replace a water heater, etc
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 жыл бұрын
That is what I would do. Go with a long term loan and then just pay it all in cash like within a year. lol
@hollyb6885
@hollyb6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 It worked for me.
@joeb1522
@joeb1522 3 жыл бұрын
Smart decision. A lot of people aren't disciplined to do that, so I think that's why Dave tells everyone to get a 15 year fixed.
@hollyb6885
@hollyb6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeb1522 Yeah. Most folks who call Dave aren’t very disciplined with money. I’ve always been disciplined and frugal. My husband was the same way thank God.
@k-mart7475
@k-mart7475 3 жыл бұрын
This is stupid. Whoever does this is stupid too.
@Lady4Life
@Lady4Life 3 жыл бұрын
Good conversation. Thank you both.
@dababycar2899
@dababycar2899 3 жыл бұрын
Can u plz not have ads like Dave is worth 500 mil u really needs ads???
@CuriousYouth1
@CuriousYouth1 3 жыл бұрын
Get KZbin premium to avoid ads. The Ramsey Show is a business that needs income, not a charity.
@dababycar2899
@dababycar2899 3 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousYouth1 bro I mean like this KZbin maybe makes 100k a year so like there is no point for Dave
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 жыл бұрын
There are ways around it. I am not going to specify or else youtube will find a way around it.
@dababycar2899
@dababycar2899 3 жыл бұрын
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 well idk how plz help
@ThatPrestige
@ThatPrestige 3 жыл бұрын
@@dababycar2899 Dave doesn’t earn from this KZbin he just creates a career for the editor
@MactanNewtown
@MactanNewtown 8 ай бұрын
What if there is like Rent to Own, making minimum of 5 percent downpayment( amounting 9,000 USD) , then do a monthly at 750 USD move in on the third month. The rest of the 80 percent, pay it cash or do inhouse financing or bank ? The property is in a 30 hectare one stop shop ( complete, organize and secure) with a beach . Will this be worth it?
@CityCinderella
@CityCinderella Жыл бұрын
I’m not even a financial advisor and I thought the parking it in a Roth IRA was bad too! LOL
@DeanRamser
@DeanRamser 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you. We are retired educators visiting Poland and Estonia after helping a new school open in Lviv. We are seriously thinking of selling our Portland condo and moving to Europe. Is renting is a better option than owning a home for seniors? We always wanted to own, but now it seems that putting the cash in CDs is wiser than purchasing a home. Plus the healthcare is better here, like in France, than in the US. Your thoughts? Dean & Cindy
@stacyh1223
@stacyh1223 3 жыл бұрын
I think she should keep renting.
@mediolanumhibernicus3353
@mediolanumhibernicus3353 3 жыл бұрын
Dave definitely does not appreciate the reference to ‘age bracket’ at 2’50””
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
It's the truth. Why be ashamed of your age?
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 3 жыл бұрын
2:50
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
Anthony's kind of dope, now watching this 3 years later. No wonder he's gone off the show
@emmanuelcardona94
@emmanuelcardona94 3 жыл бұрын
WAY TO GO!
@wkdravenna
@wkdravenna 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@vicepresidentmikepence889
@vicepresidentmikepence889 3 жыл бұрын
Did he " way to go" her living in an apartment???
@jeanlenor1858
@jeanlenor1858 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for nothing.
@nowthatsurban
@nowthatsurban 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 he was obviously cheering her on for getting rid of her debt. Must have been a timing issue.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@@nowthatsurban That was a heck of a delay.
@alejandrob9657
@alejandrob9657 3 жыл бұрын
The roth IRA play is smart..... let the gains on your after tax contributions grow tax free and still have the ability to pull out your contributions without paying penalties cause you already pay taxes on it. Smart move
@jimfarmer7811
@jimfarmer7811 3 жыл бұрын
A roth ira isn't allways the best bet. You have to take into consideration the opportunity costs of the tax savings of the regular IRA. It really comes down to income tax bracket.
@818silencer818
@818silencer818 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimfarmer7811 You can't pull out of a traditional IRA penalty free like you could with a Roth
@Ano-yj1sc
@Ano-yj1sc 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you can pull a small amount out of your Roth prior to your retirement age for the purchase of home you will be living in (not applicable to second homes).
@jimfarmer7811
@jimfarmer7811 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ano-yj1sc you are correct.
@alejandrob9657
@alejandrob9657 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimfarmer7811 Yes, thats true. Didnt consider that shes in her 50s with no nest egg. From the perspective of being in your 20s with plans of investing already, Roth all the way. Roth IRA, Roth 401k. Id rather pay taxes upfront on 50-100k income in my 20s than pay unknown taxes on my millions when im in my 60s.
@HorrorFreak68
@HorrorFreak68 3 жыл бұрын
You don't pay penalties if you withdraw the principle from a Roth.
@karenklepsch5248
@karenklepsch5248 3 жыл бұрын
A condo comes with condo fees along with house payments and property tax payments do the math, and hope you can keep up the payments when you decide to retire.
@onekoolfella
@onekoolfella 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. In some big cities, the condo maintenance fees are almost as much as paying rent.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 3 жыл бұрын
@@onekoolfella Follow proper due diligence. if you're in escrow, there's usually a penalty-free opt out clause where the HOA must provide all documents for your review, including financials. The more amenities, the more you're going to pay. Things like pools, interior air conditioned corridors, exercise rooms, etc. Newest one is to see if they have solar panels, big warning sign of massive future maintenance costs.
@rethinkcps2116
@rethinkcps2116 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 - and charging stations for electronic cars. GM shooting for entire fleet gone electric by 2025 model year, per CEO Mary Barra interviews in early 2021.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 3 жыл бұрын
Why did I get a ball trimmer ad?
@webfreakz
@webfreakz 3 жыл бұрын
Why not? It's a hint 😂
@nicholascooper1193
@nicholascooper1193 3 жыл бұрын
The Roth IRA seems like a smart move, given her age. Save and wait till 59 1/2 then take what you need out...
@aickoyvesschumann3400
@aickoyvesschumann3400 3 жыл бұрын
Correct! I was about to make the same comment. Unfortunately, Dave's methods are based more on psychology than pure math. If you are head strong and in control, math beats the Ramsey approach. Many people are not and for them Dave's simple steps make more sense.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
59 1/2 rule only applies to traditional retirement savings, not Roth
@ZaydenJayy
@ZaydenJayy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so ironic how when ever I’m thinking something I go to KZbin and Dave is answering my thoughts lol
@sami-9233
@sami-9233 3 жыл бұрын
Algo rhythm
@kashyapdamodar7338
@kashyapdamodar7338 3 жыл бұрын
Dave will not tell you this, but that's not what you call "Ironic".
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
Why does caller have to say she is female? Is this not obvious?
@AntonioV-i6k
@AntonioV-i6k 8 ай бұрын
Condo fees, insurance & property taxes always go up, no?
@heleneelong3679
@heleneelong3679 3 жыл бұрын
I like Anthony's personally. Great job.
@bbutler7158
@bbutler7158 3 жыл бұрын
If she's putting out max towards retirement (or catch up) that's alot to come out of a pay check. That will be my situation as I go into a higher paying job and will need to set aside much towards retirement. I have about 15 more years.
@dennisbuckner6259
@dennisbuckner6259 3 жыл бұрын
Take your commercials and go away
@jdbucha
@jdbucha 3 жыл бұрын
Plan to retire overseas. You can live well in South America and Southeast Asia and retire at a younger age. Why are Americans so fixated on retiring in the US?
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
Because we are free to live where we want.
@Isaactorres60
@Isaactorres60 6 ай бұрын
Incredible how immigrants experience bad treatment here but when Americans want a cheaper life overseas then we gotta be accepting and understanding.
@joeyr1996
@joeyr1996 3 жыл бұрын
This advice is incorrect, a first time home buyer can withdraw from a roth IRA with no penalty.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
She didn't stare she was a first time home buyer
@ashoksahu2642
@ashoksahu2642 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, What is Single Family Detached Condo? What are the differences between traditional single family vs Single Family Detached Condo? It it good to purchase new Single Family Detached Condo or old traditional single family home?
@MrJay197409
@MrJay197409 3 жыл бұрын
You couldn't give me a condo at any age no idea why people buy them.
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to be in a downtown of a city, it’s mainly condos and the single family homes are super expensive.
@MrJay197409
@MrJay197409 3 жыл бұрын
@@euenfheiejrj condos are not cheap either condo a glorified apartment with association fees and that said association trying to tell you what to do. Price people pay here you can buy a house.
@euenfheiejrj
@euenfheiejrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJay197409 I live in a major city and love it but it would cost a million dollars for a single family house in the city so a lot of people who want to stay in the city choose a condo. That’s why people choose condos. It’s a certain lifestyle and I can see why younger couples would enjoy it and older individuals who do not want the maintenance of a house. You may not want it but that’s why people buy them. I don’t understand people who have HOAs with a single family house in the suburbs. I would never do that.
@Chelle-kd1po
@Chelle-kd1po 9 ай бұрын
My husband is retired, & we moved back to our home state to care for our mothers. They live about an hour apart, with a major city at the halfway point. We bought a condo in the city so that we wouldn't have to deal with as much maintenance, because my husband helps both parents with yard work & so forth. Also, I have a few years left to work, so living in the city provides more options in that regard. Our HOA pays for the common area maintenance, pool (which we enjoy!), & all utilities except electricity. We're across the street from a walking trail along the river, we're close to doctors, & we can walk to concerts, events, shops, & restaurants. As we get older, we will not have to worry about our own yard work & maintenance that we see our parents struggle with. I feel safe staying there if my husband is the first to pass away, & vice-versa. Everyone has their reasons.
@WachoDude
@WachoDude 5 ай бұрын
Your mortgage will go if insurance and taxes go higher.
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if someone dies with an unpaid home loan?
@OtakuKota
@OtakuKota 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the bank that gave them the loan takes the house.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
Think about it. You have a mortgage so the bank owns your home. My homes are paid off and have beneficiary deeds on them. They automatically go to my sisters if something happens to me with no issue.
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@OtakuKota thanks for the straight forward answer. So if you purchase a home in your older years, you are basically renting from the bank at a fixed rate? So why are people scrambling to pay off a house that late in life?
@FTYC2022
@FTYC2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackworldtraveler3711 so is that the only benefit to paying off a home in your elder yrs? To pass it down to a family member or child?
@h-townsfinest4216
@h-townsfinest4216 3 жыл бұрын
@@FTYC2022 Later in life?....What does age have to do with it? People buy homes whenever they are ready. Second, what is this "later in life" persons alternative?, continue to pay rent in their retirement years that will keep going up and never stabelize?
@Seethi_C
@Seethi_C 2 жыл бұрын
You can withdraw contributions from a Roth IRA, penalty and tax free
@davidgrant9132
@davidgrant9132 3 жыл бұрын
You can withdraw from Roth IRA for down payment tax free- if it’s first time home buyer.
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
Caller never stated she was a first time home buyer
@HorrorFreak68
@HorrorFreak68 3 жыл бұрын
Your property taxes and homeowners insurance go up every year.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 2 жыл бұрын
You need to speak for yourself on that.
@andresnunez576
@andresnunez576 Жыл бұрын
As of today you can takeout Roth IRA contributions tax free and penalty free. When it comes to interest you have made you can withdraw up to 10 thousand dollars from your Roth IRA towards buying a home for the first time no penalties but taxed.
@dbrewer53
@dbrewer53 3 жыл бұрын
Right now is the worst time in history to buy a home. Prices are inflated Too much. Real estate bubble gonna pop . Wait til it pops
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
It's not happening everywhere in the U.S..
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@Natural Healing Methods If you and others think every home in the U.S. is inflated or too inflated that is a good thing. Keep thinking that. Not saying anything else.
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
@Natural Healing Methods Good. What I like to hear. Keep thinking that.👍
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
Well, it's 2 years since this comment. No popping g of any housing bubble. Values still creeping up.
@komranbehbehani6379
@komranbehbehani6379 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna buy a Tesla so bad but I know it not Dave approved gotta finish college first!! Should you buy a house first?
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to buy either.
@GoldAMG
@GoldAMG Жыл бұрын
False! You can remove money you put into a Roth IRA penalty free and tax free assuming you don’t touch the earnings!
@unconvention1
@unconvention1 3 жыл бұрын
Why did he say she doesn't want a big refund from taxes?
@famousamos1
@famousamos1 3 жыл бұрын
Because a income tax refund is just a return of overpayment of income taxes basically your money that IRS has held for a year and pay you no interest on it.
@unconvention1
@unconvention1 3 жыл бұрын
@@famousamos1 so how would you get them to take less taxes? Are there any penalties for doing so?
@Fishouta
@Fishouta 5 ай бұрын
​@@unconvention1iIts not that you would pay less taxes. It's that you would have less withheld from your pay. This is adjusted by completing form w-4
@VJWLPN1
@VJWLPN1 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we should pay off our home with money from the IRA and stocks. We are in our mid 60s?
@guykenniker9498
@guykenniker9498 3 жыл бұрын
What are the monthly cost on a condo
@wreckingopossum
@wreckingopossum 3 жыл бұрын
varies based on neighborhood and how many amenities you want
@roolyfe
@roolyfe 3 жыл бұрын
She honest, most Americans don’t make bank 🏦 most people are struggling to make ends meet!
@imveryhungry112
@imveryhungry112 3 жыл бұрын
She's making 67k and her rent only $800 a month. She's not in that bad of a situation financially.
@roolyfe
@roolyfe 3 жыл бұрын
@@joel0990 I agree ☝️
@prometheuspredator7971
@prometheuspredator7971 3 жыл бұрын
I so much agree, especially with the pandemic and things increasing.
@prometheuspredator7971
@prometheuspredator7971 3 жыл бұрын
@@joel0990, I agree also.
@roolyfe
@roolyfe 3 жыл бұрын
@@prometheuspredator7971 agreed
@coconutsfor2963
@coconutsfor2963 3 жыл бұрын
But you can move - and rent will be way cheaper
@kevcapostatus
@kevcapostatus 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@vicepresidentmikepence889
@vicepresidentmikepence889 3 жыл бұрын
The 30 year mortgage is financial suicide
@achavez78
@achavez78 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mitch are we going to get another stim?
@MrJay197409
@MrJay197409 3 жыл бұрын
So stupid question why is it called now just the Ramsey show instead of the Dave Ramsey show ?????
@webfreakz
@webfreakz 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes his daughter is there too
@sami-9233
@sami-9233 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel has not been on the show cast for some time now
@PlasticPellets
@PlasticPellets 3 жыл бұрын
TooCloseToTheBridgeOfYourNoseIsYourEyes
@vinish542
@vinish542 7 ай бұрын
homeboy just forgot home equity existed
@williamperez9827
@williamperez9827 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony is sooooo bad. Bring back Chris ... there is no penalty for withdrawing contributions to a Roth IRA.
@c.b.-11
@c.b.-11 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody mentioned a Home Owner's Association that 90% of Condos fall under.
@DC45193
@DC45193 3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@DisabilityExams
@DisabilityExams 3 жыл бұрын
You can't take money out of a Roth IRA without penalty until age 59 1/2
@nevadahomestead8500
@nevadahomestead8500 3 жыл бұрын
No but you can use a self directed IRA to buy realestate
@wesstapley
@wesstapley 3 жыл бұрын
You can take out the principal but not the interest.
@margolitapollack9308
@margolitapollack9308 3 жыл бұрын
Can use Roth IRA penalty-free for first time house buyer and no taxes on the IRA earnings. Roth IRA’s are really good deals.
@nowthatsurban
@nowthatsurban 3 жыл бұрын
You can take out contributions at any time with no penalty. Don't provide information when you're incorrect.
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