Therapist Reacts to PRIDE AND PREJUDICE

Is Pride and Prejudice a better love story than Twilight? We definitely think so!
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker, filmmaker Alan Seawright, and Cinema Therapy writer/producer Megan Seawright take a look at why the classic Jane Austen enemies to lovers story actually works, why people still love it today, and whether or not Darcy and Elizabeth are actually a good match. They're talking about what it takes to actually change, to acknowledge when you're wrong, and to overcome your pride and prejudice to see people for who they truly are. And how Megan and Alan's relationship started out a bit like Darcy and Elizabeth's...
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[@koomel]

My favorite thing about the "long shot" of Darcy with the swelling piano, is that he is WALKING to her - he hears what his aunt did to Elizabeth, but instead of rushing off in a carriage or on his fastest horse and galloping to her like a prince ready to sweep her off her feet, he WALKS!!! He comes in on HER level, the girl who claims to love walking (when half the time she walks because she has to), he decides to enter the scene with such a simple but powerful gesture of love, on FOOT. He's also not all dressed up and high collared like usual, he wears a simple shirt and trousers, very casual, as if to say "I'm here as the man you have made me into". Beautiful.

[@toninatoli]

Love your take on this.

[@OlenaZaremba-vc7th]

Wow such a great prospective! Thank you for noticing that!

[@mjc42701]

Agree and also even though a stray from the book, it was more realistic that neither could sleep and would find each other at daybreak, just as he found her in the park to giver her the letter after she rejected his proposal, to me it improved upon the book version.

[@Shadowwing1994]

@@mjc42701 agreed. The proposals in the book were appropriate for the time but this is definitely is more romantic and heartfelt

[@americaroleplayer]

I also love his outfit. Most of his clothes are pretty extravagant, But in this it's pretty plain. It looks like he ran out the door and merely grabbed a coat on his way over. Like he was prioritizing speed over appearance.

[@catherinebatty2891]

One of the things that makes Darcy such a good romantic character is that when Lizzie rejects him, he leaves it. He does not push her to change her mind or tell her why she is wrong to reject him. He writes to her to correct some inaccurate facts about him, but he clearly states the intent of his letter is not to renew his intentions towards her. Jane Austen knew where it was at.

[@silveryfeather208]

Consent....

[@healthyquadrant6587]

This is great...men should give up when rejected. I hope every incel out there is wise enough to know when to stop pursuing women. There is always prostitution...

[@monabohamad2242]

@@healthyquadrant6587 there is always MALE prostitution indeed incels should just leave women tf alone when they're told NO meaning they should RESPECT WOMEN'S WISHES instead of doing crap like pushing the blame for THEIR problems onto women

[@ranga1cat]

@@healthyquadrant6587 I’ve seen you on a few comments and I have to ask with complete sincerity… you good bro?

[@aubreycarter7624]

Yes! Darcy knows what Jono is constantly saying. Consent is key! He waits for her consent, and he respects her decisions.

[@thainadaterra]

At Darcy's first proposal scene, when they've finished their spat, and Darcy leans in a bit - wanting to kiss her... and he sees that she's also leaning in too, but still stops; apologises, and then backs away. It speaks loudly about Darcy's character and morals. Lizzy made it very clear seconds before that she didn't want him, and instead of doing what he wanted to do anyway (like many rom films), Darcy showed that he listened to her, took what she said seriously and respected her - and her decisions. Honestly, one of my favourite moments!

[@beetle1516]

the way it's so obvious that she also wants to kiss him, but he still respects the lack of verbal consent ! I love him

[@thainadaterra]

@@beetle1516 YES!!!! EXACTLY THAT

[@aubreycarter7624]

Yes! I love how they portray that there is very obvious attraction and chemistry between them, but Darcy is still a gentleman and respects her.

[@murielbaith5445]

That moment they almost kissed is appropriate to their era as well. People in that day and age rarely touched, let alone kissed. If he had kissed her at that point, it would have been scandalous!

[@lulipsia2360]

I think it's not only respecting her verbal consent, but also respecting himself. I mean she really went off about him, too, and to me it always looked like the moment logic thinking and reason went back in control over lust :'D

[@skyhideaway]

one thing that really struck me as hilarious is how Darcy sees Lizzy's sister as being uninterested in Mr Bingley, just because she was shy, when Darcy himself was so terrible at expressing his interest towards Lizzy and gave her the impression that he hated her.

[@sol-dominguez]

Moraleja: no somos los mejores jueces de nosotros mismos.

[@em8066]

Yes, so ironic! And you see the big mental kaboom set off in Darcy's head when Lizzy declares, "That's because she's shy!" Darcy not only realizes how prejudiced he was toward a person who shares a trait with himself, but also sees that Lizzy is not judging and rejecting him for his shyness the way he judged Jane for hers. Lizzy loves Jane and defends Jane's shyness, and Lizzy might have been able to love and defend Darcy's shyness one day, too. Were it not for his moral failings in Lizzy's eyes. Darcy realizes it is not his manner or personality that Lizzy finds fault with, but his harmful behavior. I think Darcy's aloofness covers for his insecurity about his weak social skills. In Lizzy's acceptance of her sister's shyness, Darcy finds a strength of acceptance that he did not give himself. Darcy can also now understand the wrong he performed from Lizzy and Jane's perspectives. And that Lizzy's motives have nothing to do with Darcy's jealousies over Wickham. So of course it's all Darcy can do to keep from kissing such a paragon of strength and integrity raging against the social norms and financial pressures of that time. Lizzy is wrong about him here, but she is wrong for the right reasons and she is magnificent. The way she registers how she's impacted him, and can hardly conceive of a world in which he would accept what she said favorably and be more attracted much less listen at all, starts to turn her perception of him as well. Plus the underlying attraction has always been there. There is so much story and character development in just those few moments, all being shown and not told so well that I can hardly contain how much I love it.

[@naturallyamused]

They always stood out to me as a massive irony, too! I believe Austen was spearheading the contradictory social expectations of men and women in her time.

[@suenaiduncan7838]

You've quite literally blown my mind. As many times as I've seen this movie (and read the novel), I've never come to this conclusion. Thank you so much for sharing this thought.

[@fymale]

as liz have said he is a fool and so as she

[@aubreezily13]

"But one word from you will silence me forever." Fitzwilliam Darcy is the perfect example of maintaining your position of how you feel in moments of emotional vulnerability, but still remaining respectful of their own feelings as well. His and Lizzie's individual growth make their relationship so compelling and lovely.

[@msk-qp6fn]

Spoken like a true gentleman

[@oliviamackenzie9725]

compared with "you must allow me to tell you how ardently i love you" where he was dumping his feelings on her with no regard for her feelings, really shows how much he's grown.

[@tticusFinch]

100%

[@AllThePeppermint]

@@oliviamackenzie9725 He read her facial expressions, body language, and her silence appropriately and correctly. He wasn't "dumping" on her. He was wooing her. Ever been wooed by a suitor before?? She can reject him just as easily after he expresses his affection as she could before, but she chose not to because she WANTS to be with him. Learn to read silence.

[@oliviamackenzie9725]

@@AllThePeppermint did you even read the book? Funny way of wooing her insulting her family and her background. And the whole point of his character arc is learning to become less selfish and seeing people below him in terms of class as his equals.

[@trinaq]

Fun Fact: The novel was almost titled "First Impressions", which is very apt, since our first impressions of other people aren't always accurate, as is the case with Lizzie and Darcy.

[@DKGNY_]

It's also the book that Keira Knightley is carrying at the beginning of the movie.

[@Soloee_]

"First impressions" would honestly have been a better title for this movie, since Darcy isn't as proud here as in the novel or the '95 movie.

[@msk-qp6fn]

Sadly there was already a book of that title so austen had to change her title

[@quyanapatton6951]

That would be beautiful

[@Hellothere_453]

Hello again lol

[@LittleMissAndy1809]

I stumbled upon a take on this earlier today: Jane Austen really said: ‘I respect the “I can fix him" movement but that's just not me. He'll fix himself if he knows what's good for him' and that's why her works are still calling the shots today.

[@ilincabogza]

!!!!

[@healthyquadrant6587]

Run Darcy! Ruuuun!!! That men 'need fixing' is insulting and misandrist thinking. Thanks for highlighting who Jane Austen was as a person.

[@monabohamad2242]

@@healthyquadrant6587 MYSOGINISTIC AF indeed

[@ilincabogza]

@@healthyquadrant6587 ?

[@aspannas]

@@healthyquadrant6587 you're not welcome on this channel

[@madalenamagalhaes861]

I LOVE Mr Bennet's teary eyes when Elizabeth reveals her love for Mr Darcy. It's actually the most emotional moment in the film, for me.

[@sharpaycutie2]

Yea cuz he’s has to let his little girl go and now she’s a grown woman

[@LA_HA]

This works so well because even though the BBC series is better for me overall, this scene lacks so much because Lizzie never explains Why she's now in love with Darcy. So, Mr Bennett looks a bit sad because he seems to be thinking Lizzie doesn't really love Darcy, but she's competing with Jane or she's accepting Darcy for the same reason Charlotte accepted Mr Collins. I figure she'll explain everything to her parents later, but That Moment... it's not horrible. It actually fits the tone and intent of the series. I just wanted it to be more like this one. That said, Two Things: 1) They should Definitely do the famous BBC series with Colin Firth, and 2) Skip the weird comparison to Twilight. I mean, Why? haha

[@williammkydde]

Did he really tear up in the book? I don't remember this detail.

[@nadybl]

@@LA_HA They mentioned this in their review of Twilight, that's why the comparison. Also, I sometime see Pride and Prejudice compare to the trope "bad boy turns good for love of woman" and it's not the case at all. The comparison to Twilight shows the difference.

[@LA_HA]

@@nadybl Thank you for the information. Maybe I'll Try to watch it. But... it's Twilight. All I can do is think about it. No promises. Haha

[@trinaq]

I love how the title applies to both Lizzie and Darcy. They are both proud individuals whose prejudice via secondhand information blinds them to the others' true nature.

[@jazzychues]

I see your comments in a lot of channels/videos that i also watch (mainly the Movie Budz😄)! So I just wanted to say hi for once, hope you have a great day 😊

[@recoveringintrovert717]

@@jazzychues I hope you two fall in love.

[@talorix]

@@jazzychues Same here guys!! ✌️✌️🎉

[@SingingSealRiana]

true, her prejudice towords him was rooted in hurt pride after all

[@korganrocks3995]

@@SingingSealRiana Not to mention that his wealth and position in society made her assume the worst of his anti-social behaviour, where she might have given a "lesser" man the benefit of the doubt. That said, Darcy IS an arrogant snob when we first meet him, so she wasn't completely wrong!

[@amyleigh936]

I always really loved how Darcy’s evolution is directly and explicitly represented in his clothing. The more he warms up to Elizabeth the looser his collar is and he is more exposed, literally.

[@milacruz3970]

The costumes department is such a big and silent part of movies 💗

[@laurenandcats]

Yes!!! Good catch, I totally agree

[@voyance4elle]

thabk you for pointing that out!!! :)

[@SammieMousie]

I've watch this movie a couple of times and never have noticed this. Thanks for pointing this out. I love the book more than the movie but the movie is solid in it's own right.

[@eliza9799]

and the fact that he comes to her literally twice in his "pyjamas" and both of this times is to show his feelings and mind

[@TressaDeFox]

Fitzwilliam Darcy is an ideal man: he listened, took no for an answer, helped not expecting gratitude, and all his faults real or percived, has never made him malicious.

[@eggizgud]

Yes love this

[@adrianavargova]

Well, reading the novel I really, really disliked Mr. Darcy. But I understood him at the end.

[@TressaDeFox]

@@adrianavargova probably because you looked at him through Lizzie's eyes:)

[@loud_and_immodest]

@@adrianavargova I think we all started off hating Mr. Darcy a little bit. But by the end, you see that he's one of the good ones.

[@iwantmybed3090]

@@adrianavargova YES! I read the book first, and since it was all from Lizzy’s perspective I ended up really despising Darcy and not understanding his actions, even at the end I felt conflicted. But then I watched the film and regretted not watching it beforehand since it really showcases the differing perspectives and motivations of the characters, fleshing them out in a way I couldn’t access from the source text. Now it’s one of my favourite books :)

[@sofh784]

Movie trivia: the scene in the rain was written FOR them. Kiera Knightley, uncommonly for Hollywood, was cast first, as so did the casting reads with the Darcy auditionees. Matthew comes in, and reads, and they do the scene almost exactly like this - even though it wasn't written that way. They get closer and closer, and even do that small lean in for the kiss at the end before realising and pulling away, and Joe Wright saw it and was like 'THAT'S IT'. And then adapted the scene from the original Collins' house (where it's set in the book) to be outside, in the rain, with the thunder, to punctuate the pure drama and chemistry the two actors created

[@c3ka]

Oh wow! I didn't know that despite being a major fan of the movie and researching stuff about it, thank you so much!!

[@louisegogel7973]

@@c3ka 👌🏼💛💛

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Why would that be uncommon for Hollywood? Usually the lead is cast first. It’s more often the lead is male in Hollywood if that’s what you mean. But Elizabeth is the lead here.

[@heehoopeanut420]

​@@sarasamaletdin4574oh sweet summer child

[@bonniecreevy2642]

Didn’t know that but that scene is so powerful. Is pained expression was wow!

[@jaminavestajugo3456]

I hope most readers/viewers get that Darcy isn't a "bad boy." Wickham is the really dangerous one. Darcy is mainly awkward and very much a product of his time and class. Matching up with a seeming "bad boy" works mainly because he's got a heart of gold under the prickly exterior. There's enough evidence throughout the story that Darcy was really a caring guy the entire time, but had his judgment clouded by various factors.

[@jeenychinan8677]

Oh who see mr Darcy as bad boy? He is a true hero. If anyone sees him as bad boy then may b they should read the book again.

[@PrincessMeggala0913]

…….Lizzie Bennett Diaries y’all. Definitely shows the dangerous side of Wickham. Heh.

[@nobirahim1818]

@@PrincessMeggala0913 That's a great webseries 😄 Have you seen the Lydia spinoff?

[@CatGold5047]

@@jeenychinan8677 Maybe not as a bad boy, but... m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCuZZKOjN1jf9U

[@NelBrandybuck]

I would say too that while his behavior at the beginning is inexcusable, it is understandable given that everyone at this party is gossiping about him and he is under the (probably correct) impression that everyone is out for his money. I would be curt and snarky in that situation too.

[@heidikay5260]

Lizzie was confident and had a sense of self-worth. She was a fully formed person before and after Darcy, but both were made better by their relationship, and through a willingness to admit wrongdoings and embrace change. Bella had none of those things, and neither Twilight character experienced any real growth.

[@rishitayadav9956]

also lizzie was like 27b or something, and was an actual mature human being; bella was just a teenager full of the need to for someone to love her to fel validated

[@Romance_dream_]

I really wish people would stop talking about twilight when they have no idea what it is.

[@astromechas]

@@Romance_dream_ I read all the books. I know full well what it is, and it’s garbage.

[@Romance_dream_]

@@astromechas even if you read the books; you mostly just joined the hatred annoying crowd of twilight, and you see everything the way they describe it, just like the reactors of this channel do, but the truth is if twilight was such garbage no one would be talking about it; twilight is just something some people would like to hate, even though they look ridiculous and they have no idea what it is,

[@laethe230]

@@Romance_dream_ I was a diehard Team Edward twilight fan, I made a shirt dedicated to him for my final home ec project in middle school.. And as an adult now I am able to easily see that Twilight is problematic and has glaring flaws. You can enjoy a guilty pleasure and still see its issues.

[@synergeticgamesstreamarchi6621]

I love Darcy's little eye twitch when he realised Elizabeth heard what he said about barely being tolerable. Great moment. You can just see the internal screaming.

[@laurenandcats]

I still scream internally when they almost kiss in the rain, and when he holds her hand to help her into the carriage and the camera lingers on him stretching out his fingers

[@voyance4elle]

@@laurenandcats god I love that scene!!!!!! x.x

[@Ancawikami]

@@laurenandcats oh god yesss! The streching of the hand! It is such a small scene but I feel all the passion he has to supress. I love it

[@elnoare]

I never noticed that td

[@Sherlockgayada]

Can you be a little more specific about what moment you mean?

[@rileynewman-gatton8549]

I read somewhere that Matthew mcfayden is super nearsighted and so in the long shot when he's walking toward Elizabeth, Joe wright actually had to wave a giant red flag behind the camera to make sure he was walking towards the right place. And he still plays it SO WELL!!

[@ceciliamarinello7129]

The only red flag allowed in this story.

[@joanneaugust6611]

@@ceciliamarinello7129 I would give you a price if I could for that.

[@crivsmum4820]

apparently it was a big red puffer jacket lol

[@avni8277]

Didn't they have contact lenses?

[@courtneypaige091]

i was the flag i can confirm

[@elizabethbetts3834]

I love in the end when she replies “well then, your hands are cold” is because her usual wit and sarcasm have been stripped from her and for once she’s actually speechless and has no retort to his honest expression of humility and love.

[@OlenaZaremba-vc7th]

and she kisses his ring finger

[@angelwhispers2060]

It's also a metaphor. Because this is his second proposal; he has offered her his hand in marriage before and she said no leaving his hands to get cold. Her regretting that fact is her taking his hands in hers. Then doing the highly inappropriate thing of kissing his hands and telling him his hands are cold is her way of saying your hands are cold and that's my fault. The kiss means I'm sorry and I accept you. It's really super clever and it's not something that someone unfamiliar with the history of the symbolism in that time would catch. But the fact that the movie directors were smart enough to put that in there is super good.

[@timslogik2819]

YES and the way that his hands are cold is actually kind of a big deal bc here is a man- a very high class man used to taking carriages or at least a horse to get places- who WALKED to lizzy, which is her preferred method of travel, symbolizing him being on the same wavelength as her. The fact that he matched himself to her despite him being used to constant comfort and now being exposed to things “below his class” shows his humility and love for her

[@sarahmyst]

It's also a really big deal, back in those days, the touching and kissing of his hand is a huge gesture - it wasn't casual back then like it is today.

[@elizabethbetts3834]

@@sarahmyst yeah, you can see it from his reaction and then touching foreheads, swoon.

[@DearxMyxSongs]

And to think, that sunrise between them, perfectly framed, wasn’t planned. There’s so many genius moments since Wright just set things up and let organic moments happen and the movie is magic thanks to it.

[@msk-qp6fn]

A happy accident 🌈🦄🦋

[@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339]

it wasn't?? The way it's shot, I always expected it to be perfectly planned, like "okay, we have to shoot........NOW! ...Did we catch the light?" I love the frame, it's such a perfect ending and sets a great in centive for the rest of their lives.

[@wherefancytakesme]

If that's true I can only imagine the directors flipping out catching that perfectly and trying to keep it in until they cut.

[@btrzcouto]

the dance scene with the empty room was also an offcut, wasn't it? they were rehearsing, and in a completely different room, and it's one of the most impactful things in the film.

[@DearxMyxSongs]

Idk about the dance scene but in the commentary from Wright on the film he mentions about how they were filming at dawn and they just caught the shot perfectly. Also mentioned that while Matthew was walking towards the camera, one of the ADs said something like, “god, I wish that was my life” lol I’d actually recommend his commentary on the film, there’s a decent amount of filmmaking he goes over that’d be helpful to other creators (from bonding the actors to catching the magic moments to filming in constrained locations)

[@brighidmcmullen9577]

I love Lizzie's expression as she walks away after the "Barely tolerable" retort because, up until that point, she only seems happy and unaffected by the opinions of others and her sad expression tells me that in truth, she was hurt. Not just "he wounded my pride" but that his comment actually hit a vulnerable spot for her. after all, she has been compared to her older sister who is seen as the most beautiful sister and for Darcy to compliment her sister and insult her in the same breath had to hurt immensely. Her mother can say those things and she forgives her because she knows that her mother loves her and doesn't mean anything by it, but for it to come from Darcy... It was more than just wounded pride. Also, I think she expected her throwing the comment back to relieve the sting of his words. I know that when someone hurts my feelings and I lash out back, I expect to feel vindicated. but if I do, it only lasts a second or two and then the hurt comes back and I feel it even more deeply because my one weapon against it has proved insufficient and now I am defenseless.

[@dathoneybadger2954]

"I know that when someone hurts my feelings and I lash out back, I expect to feel vindicated. but if I do, it only lasts a second or two and then the hurt comes back and I feel it even more deeply because my one weapon against it has proved insufficient and now I am defenseless." I feel this so hard

[@kbee8517]

What a fantastic articulation of that scene. Legitimately agree with those aspects, particularly the expectation of vindication from hurling words back at a person when hurt.

[@fideletamo4292]

Darcy was a prick for saying that...what a sucka..lol.

[@oromochic1993]

Well said I dare say I share the same feelings in other words we don't spout low blows on others eventhough the say it to us . We are better than that😌💅

[@Muniminumuni]

I agree with everything except the perception of her mother. Lizzie, in my opinion, simply considers her an idiot, and she doesn't take into consideration her judgment. Maybe when Lizzie was a child, it could've affected her, but in the present, I think she perceive her mother as a vapid lady and that's it

[@dulmiwick6851]

It's different from Twilight because while Elizabeth, like Bella, has an attraction towards Darcy, she never loses her sense of reason. She realizes she likes and loathes him and knows that as long as she loathes, him being with him is impossible. Elizabeth is a prime example of staying true to oneself and not completely losing it over the tiniest hint of attraction to another person.

[@ellenh278]

I agree. Well said.

[@johanaklaudyova8764]

Bella is incredibly insecure and disregards herself at all time, whereas Elizabeth is confident and mature, I would say that's the main difference, between the two of them

[@CRanapia]

I think it's a little more complex than that - Elizabeth doesn't entirely "stay true to oneself" because she realises she's been every bit as full of pride and prejudice as Darcy. At the risk of sounding pretentious, I love her emotional intelligence and that her self-knowledge is hard-won and uncomfortable. It's not just her injustice to Darcy, but her falling for Wickham's flattery and manipulation (indirectly) almost brought her entire family to ruin.

[@comebackslack]

Agreed. It took me a minute to figure this out for my own relationships. It was so confusing, distracting and bothersome. Once I took the initiative, I felt very peaceful. Both affection and malcontent can not coincide.

[@Musiclover-tm5es]

Good point! Darcy corrects the reasons why she loathes him and clears up misconceptions and grows, until the loathing is gone. When the loathing was gone, all that was left was love

[@JannyKey007]

I"ve heard someone say somewhere that Darcy is the perfect man because he takes the critisism and works on himself to become better.

[@SingingSealRiana]

only if you are willing to hear him out without flipping out cause he sure does have a habit of putting a foot in his mouth

[@yajairanava1717]

Perfect person, we should all strive to become better regardless the gender

[@etherealtb6021]

A good man, definitely!

[@JannyKey007]

@@yajairanava1717 absolutely

[@MC_lupin]

A person with courage and humility to do the next right thing is charming indeed.

[@juliemarie3082]

The scene of the hand flex has a fanbase of its own.

[@SingingSealRiana]

got harsh competition now in the foot nudge scene in Our flag means death now, there are fan shits sold with it as a motiv and I desperatly want one

[@ingtapoot]

I went to a convention this last weekend and a vendor was selling art prints and stickers of her watercolor painting of the hand flex. I bought both. 😂

[@monedameow]

​@@ingtapoot OMG! I want one XD

[@kerriferguson2023]

That clap of thunder when Darcy mentions her father is brilliant! The one person she would never tolerate being criticized! Incredible touch by Joe Wright!

[@Magund1]

Absolutely. The way Joe Wight had them, and the rest of the characters, play every tiny change of emotion, was perfect.

[@gabriellagalli8564]

Without the music and only the rain and the thunder claps made that scene have much more impact

[@williammkydde]

Is this in the book?

[@CJ_536]

​@@williammkyddethe words are very close to the book dialog. But the setting was artistic license.

[@williammkydde]

@@CJ_536 I "like" it as they take an excellent and very profound book and "improve" it in their shallow way. Most of the novel is not even speech: thoughts, feelings, landscapes, and feelings and thoughts caused by the landscapes.

[@honeyb.981]

Okay but the brief, deep "Mr Bingley" from Mr Darcy when he's role-playing as Jane when Bingley is practicing his proposal gets me every time 🤣🤣

[@NelaInTheSky]

And when Bingley calls him „Miss Bennett“! Mr Darcy is so much NOT a Miss 🤣 Love that scene!

[@m-edesharnais5409]

THIS is where you see how great a friend he is! Helping his bestie "practicing" his proposal, posing as the lady, genuinely wanting to help... 😊 And the fact that the "lovely lady" has a "lovely barytone voice" is indeed hilarious! 😆

[@ellenh278]

It is sweet and playful and his attempt to lighten the mood for his anxious friend, very endearing. And funny.

[@queenofqueen-4598]

He's trying his best to be a wingman

[@honeyb.981]

@@queenofqueen-4598 definitely rocking at it too. If I were still having any hesitation as Elizabeth and saw that moment, that itself would win me over!

[@amybeth323]

As someone who is hard of hearing and watches almost everything with closed captioning on, I have to say, I find the CC on your videos more hysterical than the conversation. Thank you for 1) having a riotous sense of humor, 2) remembering differently-abled people, and 3) not relying on auto generated CC.

[@asvpreis]

Thank you. For a transcriptionist, this is the highest compliment. I will keep bringing my most riotous humour and using my voice to talk about importance of accessibility in media.

[@weaverofbrokenthreads]

@@asvpreis thank you so much for your work! I don't even technically need them but I'm always so happy when channels have good subtitles and yours are an absolute joy!

[@chriskelly3481]

How blare you?! Auto generated closed maptions are perfunctory tablespoon!

[@brennanc2723]

I had a bf who's hard of hearing, so we always had cc. Even now, after breaking up, I still use them for the same reason. I feel captions have and should add more than just translating the words. Other humor beyond what has been delivered via verbal or non-verbal cues can only better the experience.

[@studiogru3649]

THANK YOU for mentioning this. I just turned them on and oh wow, do they add to the delight of a new Cinema Therapy video!

[@sarafalk2962]

I love how Megan brought out that when Elizabeth and her dad are having their conversation, they use the same gesture when they cover their mouth. Fun fact: in preparation for the movie, the cast of the Bennet family actually lived in the house together, so all the actors actually got really close to each other. They even commented later that the actor who played Mr. Bennet actually felt like a father figure to them

[@natashafigueroa9198]

Donald Sutherland is an absolute treasure

[@laceratedbythumbtacks]

the scene where mr. darcy flexed his hands was actually improvised by matthew mcfadyen. joe wright loved it so much that he decided to keep it in the film.

[@SingingSealRiana]

where it belongs, subtil details like this make or break a movie, it did such wonders to make their chemestry and relationship growth belivable

[@msk-qp6fn]

As much as I like the 1995 miniseries very much, this is also why I adore this movie!! We get plenty of hints of Darcy's attraction early on and it humanizes Darcy too.

[@tinaw94]

And it's one of the best parts

[@eliseives345]

What's the time-stamp for it, please?

[@misaamane6087]

Time stamp?

[@clownsoftheearth]

An important thing to note WHY Darcy spends a year fixing things, which is far better articulated in the book, is because in this regency period, being a gentleman meant something and had expectations. It was a job in and of its own, and her calling him out saying he wasn't being a gentleman he was failing at his job. He didn't change for Elisabeth but for himself when she pointed out he was failing in his own idea of himself

[@snowmonster42]

It took a couple of readings to understand this. At first I couldn't figure out why he paid off Wickham, then I realized that this really was part of his job as the head of a wealthy family, and then I finally understood that ultimately he stepped in because he felt he was somewhat responsible for what happened to Lydia because he didn't keep a tight enough leash on Wickham. Thank goodness family duty isn't this far ranging anymore, but I understand why he felt that way. Darcy was right about her Father, too. Neither Lizzie nor I could accept it at first, but her Father was big enough to admit to himself and to Lizzie that he should have done more to reign in Lydia and Kitty's behavior.

[@runningking1317]

“Speaking whatever you’re thinking isn’t a virtue if what you’re thinking needs to be checked.” Such an amazing quote. Great job, Jono!

[@JonathanDecker]

Thank you very much!

[@rowangirdler7428]

I needed to hear that line ten years ago.

[@Yammerzaki123fr]

@@rowangirdler7428 same

[@Lunatheia]

Gah, that really got me. I definitely needed to hear that.

[@workingstiffdiogenes2195]

Pride and Prejudice accomplishes something soooo many rom-coms can't: making us feel her suspense. Back then, there was literally no mechanism for a woman to propose to a man. Having rejected him, she has little choice but to suffer with the growing realization that she loves him but has blown it. (Jane warns her about this when she says, "One of these days, Lizzie, something will catch your eye and then you'll have to watch your tongue." The scene when she says, "Jane, I've been so blind" you can feel her misery.

[@DKGNY_]

I love how Mr. Darcy is so different when Elizabeth meets his sister. He smiles and shows his personality more.

[@reikun86]

Part of it is because he’s changing, but this is also the first time we’ve seen him in his own home. People tend to be more comfortable in their home turf. Plus he thinks the world of Georgiana, and she knows this side of him better than anyone.

[@vucsanna1136]

Funnily enough one of my absolute favourite scene in this movie was when he helped Bingley with his proposal. I think it wasn't in the book but I find it absolutely adorable. The way he leans in playing Jane's part to help his friend's nerves. It's also like the first time we see them interact with eachother that actually sells me they are best friends and I loved it. I wanna see more friendships like this in cinema! 💳💥

[@memesouls8653]

Typical bros helping each other out moment 😂

[@Tar-Isilme]

Fun fact: Matthew MacFadyen is practically blind, and walking through the early morning fog was quite a challenge, someone had to hold up a neon colored flag to show him where to walk, and he still managed to walk with confidence, not even the best top model could walk with that swagger.

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

No way!

[@alisaurus4224]

Came here to say this! I also vehemently disagree that watching him do the walk is BORING

[@fabianacontreras8227]

@@alisaurus4224 agree, it is just hot!

[@Bjjbhcoa86]

@@alisaurus4224 they said "boring", he made air quotes. So they don't think it is boring at all, they are just saying that is should be a boring shot, but it is not.

[@MegaLilJen]

Love this (snarkily annotated) scene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4q0qaGjbdyonZom14s

[@Tiffany6277]

the scene where Darcy is walking up to Lizzie and confesses his feelings again always makes me tear up because of how much feeling he put into his words "I love you" to the point where he stutters a bit when saying it.

[@laurenandcats]

YES. Yes yes yes. I still cry at that, how earnest and sincere and hopeful he is in that moment after he gave her a chance to speak up and she remained silent.

[@politereminder6284]

I've never watched this version of the film, but I read this book at least once a year. I disagree that it's a very "white" story. I'm African, and I identify with it very intensely. It's very human, and Jane Austen does a great job of telling a universally relatable story. Edit : because I'm getting a lot of people "thanking" me in the comments thinking that my comment is a castigation of diverse casting. *I am all for diverse casting in film BTW for all sorts of roles. Please stop thanking me for "agreeing" with your anti-black anti-diversity ideas.* Jane Austen writes relatable stories because they are intimate and deeply rooted in the culture that she knows. How those are filmed in the 21st century is a different point. Joe Wright did great on this film. I wouldn't have hated it if he had done diverse casting though. It's good as it is. It would be fine with non whites. It's not a story about being white after all

[@leafletanon]

i am mexican & i feel the same way. The characters are extremely relatable

[@OlenaZaremba-vc7th]

maybe they just meant that no other nationalities were shown in the film the story is, of course, international and very relatable

[@angelsubs1114]

I believe they just meant the film itself, not the story, since every actor in it is white and it's british :)

[@radheyshyam895]

@@angelsubs1114 I mean the story is set up in old time Britain so naturally they're all white.

[@jborrego2406]

U would be a slave an no one give to f about u an ur struggle . They showed white ppl struggles

[@ANutterwitch-wq1gj]

Darcy's long walk towards Lizzy symbolizes how much he has changed over the last year; literally-- he's come a long way.

[@sunsioux444]

beautiful comment

[@cynthiajune2818]

This is a classic!!! revelation

[@colleenseidel3765]

Yes!

[@DrRiverWho]

When my husband said he wanted to marry me, he asked my mom for her blessing. I remember it cause we were in the middle of a stupid argument and I said something like well if your serious you need to talk to my mom. He was like “Fine I will” and called her up. I remember being gobsmacked. Like dude, what just happened lmao. We were engaged six months later.

[@PhotonBeast]

LOL That's hilarious! I hope things worked out?

[@DrRiverWho]

@@PhotonBeast it worked out beautifully. He is a wonderful husband and my mom and dad love him very much.

[@PhotonBeast]

@@DrRiverWho Awesome to hear! I hope you have many more years together!

[@DrRiverWho]

@@PhotonBeast thank you!! We both make an effort to apply what we have learned in life, in therapy, and from this channel lol. He is a very good man. I am proud of him and glad he chose me to be his wife.

[@TehMomo_]

that's actually really frikkin' cute

[@em8066]

Aww, I love that they just went together as a pair of guys and just loved the sh*t out of this masterpiece.

[@robindebacker]

Me tooooooo! That was just so cooool.

[@johanaklaudyova8764]

These two singlehandedly destroy toxic masculinity with everything they say and do lmao

[@snowflakesandroses]

Agreed! So wholesome, I couldn’t help but grin listening to their shared enthusiasm and discourse on the movie 🥰

[@marieknight9385]

I do too, especially knowing the history behind the author too❤

[@beybeyrizz]

Fact: their family isn't actually considered "poor" by financial means. The contrast between Darcy/Bingleys' status vs Bennets' were social connections, which was as important as money back in the day. Sure, Bennets earn less but they're a respectable family.

[@SmartySkirt]

Exactly, that’s why when the Aunt comes to visit Elizabeth. She says “He is a gentleman and I’m a gentleman’s daughter” the Aunt then says “Yes but who are your aunts, your uncles, you friends, etc” It was more about that Elizabeth didn’t know or wasn’t related to the “right” people.

[@lorrainesekera4100]

Don't forget that the Bennets' fortune was entailed, meaning it would pass to Mr. Collins upon Mr. Bennett's death, since he had no sons

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

@Lorraine Sekera That’s true and the actual issue. The family doesn’t have money after Mr Bennett dies because there is no son, Mrs Bennett doesn’t have good family connections since she is from trade and they both just assumed they would have a son so didn’t save money. Only thing the girls have really is based on Mrs Bennet’s drowry which has been invested in bonds and they get interest from it. However this movie makes them look much more poor now than they are. Maybe the filmmakers didn’t trust the audience understand the inheritance issue. But they are not dressed well enough, the house doesn’t look nice enough, we should see more servants and there certainly should not be farm animals and laundry around where the family spends their time.

[@jessicav931]

I had not see the movies in a decade, but I just read the book. I agreed with this. IAnd it was more like the guys where from higher society than the rest, not that Elizabeth's family were the poorer at the town. At the book you can get how family can impact your life, when Lydia scape with a dude that is just using her to get money (and the lad could not even pick a woman with real money!!). And the dad is forced to pay the dude some money each year for the rest of his life. The mom also was speaking nonsense all the time. Even in current times nobody would consider wise to have that kind of in law. Good thing Darcy lives freaking far away from the family

[@kikidevine694]

I mean the Bingleys are (the horror) Trade!!!!!

[@MartialFox]

Can we please talk about the scene of both of them dancing, and how it switches from a crowd to just the two of them in a single small room? It’s such good cinematography!!

[@bonnielallky-seibert8265]

I wonder why she has no gloves, other ladies do

[@aronhelios1734]

@bonnielallky-seibert8265 Reasonable answer: probably for the same reason why none of them have bonnets for most of the movie: director's choice. Interpretation: She's supposed to be seen as attractive (she's described as being pretty but not as pretty as Jane, etc.). She's dressing up for Wickham in this scene and probably is playing all of her cards, even if it's improper to not have gloves, but technically they live outside of London so they're not up-to-date with fashion trends.

[@sunsioux444]

@MartialFox: yes!

[@mandyncj1]

Probably my favorite romantic scene in any movie. Pure genius.

[@bethb8276]

For me it embodied the idea of locking eyes with someone and the world disappears.

[@ashleycordova9183]

I loved this movie the ending when they finally got together was magnificent. He really respected her when he told her he loved her but promised to walk away if she didn’t feel the same.

[@trinaq]

Precisely, Darcy respected Lizzie's boundaries, and was willing to let her go if she didn't reciprocate his feelings.

[@laviniasnow4494]

I totally love that kind of respect. It makes me feel warm and safe and that the other person is trustworthy. 😌

[@msk-qp6fn]

The ending is beautiful!!!! There's also an extra scene and I adore how Darcy kisses all of Lizzie's face before kissing her lips aaaaaaahhhhh *gushing noises*

[@christinaclark9754]

Also he only approached her because he had reason to believe that her feelings had changed. It wasn't him just deciding randomly to try again. I loved that whole scene.

[@laviniasnow4494]

@@msk-qp6fn That scene was specifically made for the U.S. audience, but it's outside of the real version of the story.

[@Mazurana1000]

The channel strongly emphasizes the "therapy" aspect ("Therapist reacts", "Psychology of a Hero"), and while Jonathan does offer highly interesting, useful and applicable viewpoints, I'd like to give a shout-out to Alan! The professional insights into the tricks and details of the trade are greatly appreciated! I realize that, as an occasional moviegoer, I take a lot in the film-making process for granted and unwittingly overlook the effort, the passion, the genius put in. I love "Pride and Prejudice" and I've always considered it visually stunning, but now I see that much of the subtler symbolism flew right over my head. :P Gentlemen, I know it's not much of a compliment to tell a man he's lovely, so I won't say you're two "lovely men". I'll say that you are two "lovely people". Thank you for what you're doing!

[@Narra0002]

I don’t know what it is about Cinema Therapy viewers, they, you included, just have a way with words and I always agree with there insights.

[@meridellwriter]

I agree. I took an elective class in college called "Essentials of Watching Films" that did touch on a lot of these sorts of film-making techniques, but every so often Alan will point out stuff that I've completely missed because I wasn't looking for it or don't know how difficult it is to pull off properly. It's usually safe to assume that nothing (or almost nothing, since every so often in a shot where, say, the protagonist throws a bunch of papers in the air, one will land on his head or shoulder in an amusing way and the actor will just roll with it and it'll get left in) is mere coincidence in a movie, but those of us who don't make them for a living often don't realize just how difficult it is to get some of those shots.

[@veramae4098]

If you'd like an exercise in appreciating the art of film, take as look at "12 Angry men". It's been remade several times, and each time done well, but I prefer the first b&w version with Henry Fonda. 12 Men in one room, but the tension and brilliance never pauses.

[@zumbinis]

@@veramae4098 I'm not aware of the movie 12 Angry Men ever being remade after the original Henry Fonda version. Can you give me titles of or actors in or directors of any of the remakes? Thanks in advance.

[@OlenaZaremba-vc7th]

yes, his insights were so interesting and made me understand why I liked the film so much!

[@laurenlittlewood3913]

I wish I had this when I was 19. I ended up with an Edward thinking he was a Darcy. So glad you did this film. It’s straight up art.

[@franniebadilla8227]

I'm 19 and i can feel you. I'm in a relationship right now and this videos are so helpful for me, they really have no idea of how much they are helping young and old people with just this videos.

[@annabourbon]

TBH many of my prospects were Edwards and Wickhams, which is why I will die an old maid 🤣🤧 I don't like to settle myself for so little. I mean, I don't think I'm perfect, but at least I want someone I can respect, have fun with and cherish as an equal.

[@HouseMDaddict]

@@annabourbon omg same. SO many Edwards and Wickhams for me too! I also got some incredible clingy ones that had no identity themselves and just wanted to absorb my life as their own because they didn't have one. If I met someone who had a stable job, was a decent person, and was actively working on themselves to do better and be better (as everyone should be anyway) then sign me up. I'm definitely not perfect either but I can support myself, I have hobbies and healthy relationships with friends and family, and I'd like to think I'm a decent person in society. I work on trying to do better and be better, and just looking for someone who's doing the same. Shouldn't be too hard, but it is

[@Jenkinscraftingco2.0]

I swear if edward and wickham has a baby it would be my kids dad. 😩

[@Gabriela-bl5py]

I read pride and prejudice as a pre-adolescent and I spent most of my life without romantic relationships because my bar was so high haha but now I have basically the perfect partner and I totally blame this novel for teaching me that it's better to be alone than with a partner that doesn't respect you or appreciate your strenghts, values and intellect.

[@kaitlyn5206]

I absolutely love the contrast between the first time he tells her he loves her and the next. The first time he says it almost abruptly, as if he couldn’t possibly hold it in any longer. The second, he stumbles over the words, and seems to hesitate a little. I take that portrayal as Darcy not wanting to get the same reaction he got the first time. So he hesitates, but feels the need to say it regardless.

[@DipityS]

I keep being reminded of a part of the book where Lizzie is thinking about how much he put aside - all that wounded pride from the first rejected proposal - and still did what he thought was the right thing to do to help her sister - and treat Lizzie with such civility and kindness when they met at Pemberley - and she thinks of how proud she is of him. There's always something so beyond the superficial in that thought of Lizzie's, for me. It develops how much she respects Darcy, how high she holds him as a character of honour and decency - and it's just lovely.

[@annemariestrehl]

I love how you pointed this out. I've heard so many people jokingly say she fell in love with him when she saw Pemberley. But that's really not it. She finally stepped into his world and saw more of his perspective and then later realised his integrity and decency in putting his needs aside to help others quietly.

[@fleetskipper1810]

And at Pemberley she saw his deep love for his little sister, and she related to that.

[@schleepy6362]

Guys you are FUELING my ability to write competent romances, I’m takin notes like an absolute madwoman.

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Write! Write! Write!

[@nadybl]

Wow, a Romance build with Cinema Therapy in mind? Now I want to read that!

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

@@nadybl SAME

[@virginia7335]

​@@nadybl same!

[@adeyemoifemade7832]

Same

[@na3rial]

What I love about Pride and Prejudice is that you truly can't tell who is Prideful and who is Prejudiced. They are both flawed yet that makes them perfect together

[@shirendjorgee9320]

My English teacher said Darcy is prideful and Elizabeth is prejudiced

[@ericspearman2998]

They are each a measure of both. He is prejudiced, at first, against Elizabeth’s “station”. Her “class”. Her “circumstances” as he says. This is what keeps him for so long from seeing the truth about her and Jane, and indeed her whole family. She is very proud. She always has to have the last word and when she feels even slightly slighted by someone, whether they meant it or not, she goes straight for the jugular in brutally verbose fashion. This pride keeps her from considering and seeing where Darcy is coming from. The point is they are each guilty of the same two sins and they misjudge not just each other, but other people as well, on a regular basis. They both have work to do.

[@CloudslnMyCoffee]

Both. The answer is both

[@ajlichty7399]

15:30 I love how expressive Matthew is while still playing an impeccable Darcy. His reactions as he's seeing the parallels between his interference between Jane and Bingley and the rejection he's just gotten from Elizabeth is a masterwork of acting. Understanding that the same shyness that Jane was exhibiting is how he reacted to Elizabeth in the beginning and his interference is what has prevented his own engagement is heartbreaking to watch.

[@c3ka]

Oohh shiiiiit! Thanks for pointing that out, it's brilliant! Was it mentioned in the book? I don't remember

[@crivsmum4820]

@@c3ka in the book, Darcy is shown as arrogant not shy at the beginning

[@c3ka]

@@crivsmum4820 true!

[@crivsmum4820]

@@c3ka I do love Matthew's portrayal though

[@minus21334]

@@crivsmum4820 you can be arrogance with more depth to it, without being literal

[@MarjaCamargo]

One of the many things I love about Jane Austen’s books it’s that her characters are flawed and you get to see them working on their shortcomings. Yes, the romantic relationships are the main drive for that, but they don’t change for the other person necessarily. This makes the happy endings much more enjoyable.

[@korganrocks3995]

Definitely. The people who think Lizzy is too smart, witty and quirky, and that Darcy is too rich, handsome and dreamy really miss the point. They're both genuinely good people who have some huge blind spots when it comes to their own flaws, and we get to watch them realise their flaws and work on improving them because it's the right thing to do. Then they accidentally meet and all that self-work pays off, but even if they hadn't run into eachother, they'd both be better people because of what they learned from eachother.

[@marysmith2060]

There's nothing wrong with identifying with Lizzie's character if you're a man or vice versa if you identify with Darcy and you're a woman. It's about going on a journey through the novel. Maybe reading the novel leads to self discovery. I read the novel in high school. I loved it. I always enjoyed studying British literature. This movie was a perfect adaption. The pacing, cast, story and craft all came together for a great movie.

[@proudatheist2042]

You can learn from people of the opposite sex/gender and see similarities between yourself and different people. Men are men. A man who "identifies" as a woman is a man who wishes he was a woman.

[@msk-qp6fn]

I am a girl and relate to both darcy and lizzie 😂

[@jujublue4426]

As an ackward introvert I relate a lot to Darcy, even if I'm a girl

[@zitronentee]

I'm a guy and I'm definitely wallflower like Darcy and also hold prejudice like Liz. Yeah, I admit it.

[@Ojo10]

That also adds to the timelessness of it, the characteristics of each character doesn't say anything like "they act like this because of thier gender". Even though this is a trope, it doesn't feel like the author is pegholing the characters due to thier gender.

[@Firedoomcaster]

My husband was very traditional and called my dad to ask his permission to marry. My dad, being my dad, and always looking for an opportunity to joke immediately responded: “well, I’m very flattered but I don’t swing that way.” …. I love my dad. And I love my husband. They get on very well.

[@petrosinella]

😂😂😂

[@unpiccolocuore]

As a non-native speaker, I couldn't get the joke. Would you explain it to me? 😊

[@GemGames3]

cool dad

[@ИванСнежков-з9й]

@@unpiccolocuore The dad acted as if he is the one been asked to get married, effectively saying he won't marry another man. What he meant is that he is not the one that should be asked about this, his daughter decides for herself.

[@unpiccolocuore]

@@ИванСнежков-з9й Thank you for explaining.

[@candycigarette7202]

That bit when Elizabeth stands up for Jane when Darcy misunderstands her! Every time it makes me feel like crying. I was shy & awkward when I was in my teens & often got misunderstood and my sister just thought I was pathetic. I love seeing loyal sibling dynamics onscreen now I'm older and not so bitter about it.

[@chillsahoy2640]

I really love it when Alan 'deconstructs' the cinematography and film techniques used in films. For me it's fascinating getting to find out how the effect was achieved. For instance in this film it was Elizabeth walking away and the camera follows her all the way through, so that the audience can see her facial expressions but also to parallel that Darcy is also following her with his gaze. Or when Elizabeth and Darcy are arguing and it's just one shot for each, with the camera closing in on each of them as the intensity builds up.

[@secondhandrooms507]

I have been geeking out over this move for 17 years. I love that there are people out there who love it just as much as me.

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Yes!!

[@annefitz7346]

Same !!! Watch it every year. And watch clips regularly. I’m addicted.

[@natalyamartirosyan]

@@harpo345 absolutely! The 1995 version with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth is the best!

[@MrBroadstone]

I love the book and my husband and I listen to the audiobook several times a year and watch this movie a few times too. Yes there isn’t a complete faithful retelling but in general I believe they get the spirit of the characters and plot very well. To get any book distilled into under two hours is a tall order for any book let alone a classic!

[@ISA4ELLE]

Same here

[@msk-qp6fn]

It is heartwarming to see President Snow with his family, especially his favorite daughter who is elegant as a swan and fiesty as a pirate.

[@SisterPegasus]

I'm living for these references!

[@meganmeyers1215]

They mentioned at the beginning of the movie, the silhouettes of Darcy and party in the dark, facing all this noise and life. What they didn't connect, was the shot when Lizzy accepted Darcy and they touch foreheads. They are in silhouettes together, but lit and full of life! They are finally on the same level of light and esteem. *I also think they should have addressed Lizzy's growth from the Wickham situation, where she learned the truth and adjusted her prejudice to see both Wickham and Darcy for who they really are.* This is also why when they are in the meadow, they have both equally grown for the better to meet and move forward on equal ground. **Also, when they each reveal their feelings for each other in a raw nature, they are in fact in nature itself in a raw form. The Gazebo was seemingly overtaken by nature, and they were drenched in rain. And in this, they are in a meadow covered in fog and sunlight. It's an opposite, showing where they are now from where they were. And each have touches of water, a connecting medium, in incense and more gentle circumstances. Joe Wright, the actors, cinematographers, composers, everyone who worked on this movie made perfectly, because they weren't aiming for perfection. They made it real.

[@nessiemour4750]

What a gorgeous analysis. One I haven't thought of before. Thank you for sharing!

[@TC-ku4vv]

Beautiful

[@JaneNewAuthor]

The shot at the end where the sun rises between the two of them as they reconcile is truly one of the most beautiful moments in cinema. Ever.

[@denejean]

Without a doubt - that had to be done right the first time - incredible! so many perfectly filmed moments in this movie - the geese taking off from the lake in the scene with her mother and father... the composition of the scene with the letter at the Rose and Crown.

[@WondaGal1000]

One scene I wished you guys included was the comfort he offered Elizabeth after she found out about Lydia and Wickham. Like that scene was beautiful too. The things he said to her and I think that's the scene where he really decided to start making moves to turn things around.

[@Oleandra_13]

I would love to see their commentary on her pacing around the central fireplace and Mr. Darcy popping up and down each time.

[@highwaysstar]

For anyone who's interested in Jane Austen's works and the Regency Era, please check out Ellie Dashwood. She's an amazing youtuber who covers the historical context of the books, why the era still influences us, and how the values of the time are still important values now. As she so succintly put it: there is a reason that Pride and Prejudice is still the most romantic novel of all time!

[@laurenandcats]

Thanks!! I’ll do that

[@voyance4elle]

Thank you!! I'll check her channel out :)

[@PhoenixEdR]

Oh I LOVE her videos! So interesting and well thought out!

[@flutterwinkle]

She’s amazing!

[@brandonmiles86]

THANK YOU!

[@peachytine220]

I love that Darcy was the ONLY man to ask her father for his blessing too. It shows the character differences between all the the men that were courting the Bennet women. More so, it showed Darcy knows how close she is to her family, but most of all to her father. Also, to humble himself and ask her father for her hand when in that time pride could’ve prevented it (feeling as though he was doing them a kindness in marrying her even though her family was far below his station.) It was more than romantics, it was character development and humbling his pride. It just hits different lol.

[@stephaniespc]

In the book Bingly does also but not wickam

[@MashedT8r]

This is my favorite love story movie. Not only because it has well written characters, beautiful shots and a brilliant score. But because there is absolutely no sexual scene, not even a kissing scene. The hottest thing that happens is when Darcy helps Elizabeth into the carriage or when they almost kiss after their dispute in the rain. This movie shows that love is more then just physical attraction and i love it! Also you guys nailed it again. awesome video!

[@kharbachifouzia4093]

there are kisses in the final scène It took me forever to notice it I always thought the last scène was when she was telling her dad bout darcy but there is a final scène after that...

[@usualsuspects42]

It's when you can check the boxes of respect, admiration, that the person has self-reflection, can compromise and see things from another's perspective, is fair and charitable - all that, when you know you're truly safe - is, omg, when you get skyrockets.

[@liliannedomingo8255]

@@kharbachifouzia4093 actually there are 2 versions: the UK and US version. not sure but Americans felt it was lacking in physical sense; hence in the US version, the last scene was the one with kisses. The UK one is her telling her dad.

[@emilyking4493]

I appreciate how they are both trying to do the right thing, but are shortsighted in their judgments. Both Elizabeth and Darcy change for the better because of the other, and I think that's beautiful.

[@kelseybrown9593]

Fun fact the actor who played Mr. Darcy is short sighted so during the long walk so he knew where to go the director waved a red jacket to direct him where to go. Also says the lines in the field scene to his pregnant wife. When I found out I was preggers at the time and I melted into a puddle at the sweetness of that lol.

[@tearsofawaterfall2656]

Aww that’s so beautiful

[@tearsofawaterfall2656]

By the way his wife is a famous actress here in england

[@reikun86]

Aww 🥰

[@melanie62954]

@@tearsofawaterfall2656 Those of us Americans who are hardcore into period drama know Keeley Hawes, too! I saw her in Wives and Daughters and a couple of other things before I even knew Matthew MacFadyen existed. :D

[@liagbtq]

i think what’s even worse than darcy insulting her family, is him excluding her and her sister from it and thinking that makes it okay and a compliment that elizabeth is going to be happy (and maybe even relieved) to hear. it’s the typical ”well you’re not like them“ that’s supposed to be a compliment, but it’s really not. it’s really insulting and offensive imo.

[@BoraLinda]

THISSSSSSS‼️‼️

[@harpo345]

Mrs Bennett insults Darcy from the get-go and the younger sisters behave in an unacceptable way. Read the book.Jane Austen knew what she was doing - Lizzy and Darcy are both sympathetic characters but both are flawed. That's why it's a story that still resonates after 200 years. If you want a feminist icon and to confirm your dislike of men, you're looking in the wrong place.

[@milaalaniva775]

@@harpo345 and Lizzy was mortified by her sisters all the way except Jane. It really wasn't a suitable match for Darcy in anyway.

[@harpo345]

@@milaalaniva775 Exactly, and him overcoming society's expectations and his own sense of superiority are what shows him to be a worthy match for Elizabeth.

[@fideletamo4292]

@@harpo345 no, he was just an arrogant prick with superiority complex..he thought Lizzie was dumb cuz her mother and 2 sisters were..once she destroyed him with her wit he was like...you are not like your family..which is the dumbest thing to Say..lol...

[@itsmainelyyou5541]

The difference for me between this and say, a Twilight, is that Elizabeth has agency. She makes a true choice, on her own, for herself. Darcy develops some self realization that makes him an equal not to her but to himself. It's lovely.

[@ilincabogza]

!!!!!

[@InThisEssayIWill...]

Fun fact: Darcy and Lizzy are in the same social class (gentleman and gentlemen's daughter) what differs is their social sphere Darcy is the upper tier(and likely could apply for a landed title if he so chose) whereas Mr Bennett is the master of an entail and could not do so (not to mention the vast difference in the way they manage their money) Jane is actually the one who would be marrying down since she is a gentleman's daughter and bingley is a merchant 🤷

[@msk-qp6fn]

Interesting how things work, right? I think the 1995 bbc version shows this in caroline because she dresses significantly extra which would not have been encouraged among the gentry.

[@InThisEssayIWill...]

@@msk-qp6fn I only just recently got around to watching the BBC version, 05 was my first real introduction to Jane Austen. I had read the novel but the time commitment of 6 hours was just really hard to fit into my schedule. I didn't dislike it but 05 will always have a special place in my heart.. a first love, if you will. I think 95 might grow on me some more with a second watch but idk when I'll have 6 hours to myself again 😆

[@msk-qp6fn]

The 1995 miniseries will have a special place in my childhood as one of the few adaptions that were actually faithful to the source material while translating well to a new medium. I adore the 2005 movie too, however. The cinematography is stunning and more modern so the movie was visually more digestible for me, the scores are beautiful, and there is more realism to the settings and characters (for example, Longbourn actually looks people lived there, and the Bennet ladies have a scene where they pretend they have been reading in a sophisticated when Bingley and Darcy come, Bingley and Darcy practicing Bingley proposing to Jane, etc). The romance is also more gratifying in the movie in my opinion even though technically we never see Elizabeth and Darcy kiss in the movie (I think the scene where Darcy does kiss Elizabeth is from the director's cut or something).

[@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339]

I first watched the 2005 version and found the 1995 years later - can definitely recommend both!! While 95 is closer to the source material (as mentioned above), the 05 has marvellous scenery shots and I personally adore Keira Knightley and enjoy her acting. I agree that 6hs tend to be too long for a casual evening watch, but you can spread it out over a week or take a weekend to enjoy - pro tip: there's nothing better than to spend your saturday watching P&P while nitting/stitching/sewing and feeling like you're somehow part of it :D

[@InThisEssayIWill...]

@@msk-qp6fn kissing scene at the end of the movie was added for the us release 😆 I didn't know that it wasn't in all versions for the longest time evidently we needed it to seal the deal lol

[@HallowsAuto]

What's powerful about this story is it's not just Darcy that changes - Lizzie does too. They both had to grow and mature before their relationship could become a reality. Darcy had to work to overcome his prejudice - to realize the error of his previous actions and go to lengths to correct them. But Lizzie also had to overcome her pride and learn humility -- to learn that she could also be wrong (about Wickham, about who Darcy really was). By the time the story ends they're both more mature and have both learned from the errors of their ways to ultimately become better versions of themselves.

[@jackiesliterarycorner]

I will be rereading P&P in July for the first time, so it's perfect time that you guy do this at the end of June. I love how loyal Lizzie is to her family even if they embarrass her. She loves them and is like "no one criticize my family except me".

[@GrandisSilva]

Oh the book is so good! I've read it several times, but never close together. So each time I read it I rediscover bits I'd forgotten. I have a few issues with this movie though, especially the changes of dialogue in that final scene! Ugh, I can't stand the whole 'bewitched me' bit. Jane wrote a very simple, subtle and sweet scene that says all it needs to without overly emotional or intimate language. And personally, I though Matthew McFadyen played Darcy too depressed rather than haughty. Colin Firth will always be the best Darcy in my opinion.

[@melanie62954]

@@GrandisSilva Absolutely! Kiera and Matthew played the characters very well, but Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth's performances are much more subtle, detailed, and nuanced. I think part of it is that in a 2-hr movie you have to telegraph things more bluntly to get the point across in less time. I like this version for the beauty of the filmmaking and music, but 1995 is my go-to adaptation.

[@eileensnow6153]

I was at a funeral on Monday, and wound up gossiping with one of my cousins afterwards. I found myself saying things that I never would have said to someone on the other side of my family. A little bit judgmental maybe, but more honest than with everyone else.

[@jackiesliterarycorner]

@@GrandisSilva I would like to watch the Colin Firth version. I have never seen that one just this movie.

[@persiswynter6357]

I always thought that a good part of Darcy's pride was just introversion. The man doesn't like crowds of strangers, as seen by his behavior at the dances.

[@MsJubjubbird]

In the novel and the BBC version he says to Lizzie, when she and his cousin are making fun of him for not dancing at the public ball, he says he is not as comfortable conversing with strangers as he would like to be. Lizzie just tells him he would be better if he practiced more. Which is why when later he meets her aunt and uncle he is really friendly- because he has been practicing- and Lizzie is shocked. He also thinks his pride is checked because he says that pride will always be under regulation when there is superiority of mind- which is a flawed and interesting argument because if you think your mind is superior then how will you check your pride?

[@kelljA]

Social Anxiety I picked it up in the 2005 version, as it is most apparent.

[@MsJubjubbird]

@@kelljA he is a different character in the 2005 version though. In the other versions and the book he just doesn't think it is worth it to talk to people- so he doesn't practice and is bad at it. In the 2005 movie he is shy, which is more Jane's character than Darcy's

[@lonnie4827]

This was a choice made to modernize Darcy. It had to work for the movie due to its short run time. In the novel, Darcy is prideful. He looks down on the people at the gathering and several of their habits. He is really critical of Jane and her habits. To a much further extent. But she is too. Sometimes she purposefully offends him.

[@elorabrowning-dj5ux]

When I was reading the book, I sometimes thought that Darcy might be neurodivergent

[@HugginsKnits]

I absolutely love how slow and meditative most of this movie is. It does a brilliant job representing a time without media or constant social interaction. So much time spent alone and in quiet contemplation that we can take 3 years to get to know exactly who the other person is and how we feel about them. Also, if anyone ever said that line to me - "You have betwiched me, body and soul." I would sigh and faint dramatically and profess my love in return emphatically.

[@stephanieleblond3495]

i am happy to see i am not the only one to enjoyed slow paced movie this is why i love denis villeneuve so much. his movies are also slow and it makes you feel so much i also adored a quiet place for the same reason .

[@TBCreek]

@@stephanieleblond3495 Have either of you seen The Duellists (1977)? You might enjoy.

[@Hottool365]

I love how they both self reflect and correct their ways. Especially Mr. Darcy, in the end they both realize that they are very much alike. One of my favorite books and this is my favorite film version.

[@DouglasHollingsworth1]

Gold star to whoever handled the closed captioning on this video, because the computer code jokes at all the emotional scene clips made my day 😄 Being hard of hearing I appreciate the extra little details and in-jokes for those of us that need the captions, keep it up!

[@juliarunn5009]

As a deaf person I totally agree, it makes me feel special to have something extra to enjoy in the subtitles. Not many creators put that much effort into them.

[@lefish5277]

I appreciate these too v much

[@SarahRichardsGraba]

I'm not deaf or hard of hearing, but I ALWAYS turn the closed captions on their videos because the captioner is absolutely amazing. You get a whole other layer of fun from them!

[@creanero]

@@SarahRichardsGraba She's stood beside me making squeeing sounds. I think she's glad to be appreciated...

[@SarahRichardsGraba]

@@creanero ahhh who is the captioner?? If you know their (her?) name would love to give them credit and recognize them for their amazing work! 🙌🏼

[@SingingSealRiana]

This movie gifted me one of my greatest friendships of my life. She was the best friend of one of my close friends, so we talked and got along, but would not meet on our own. But one day we talked and maybe I said I m not a fan of romance or something like that, she mentioned pride and prejudice, I said never watched it, she said ok, I am kidnapping you right now, we are watching that movie and so we did and that was 7 years ago and I still love her to pieces ^^

[@Overseer2579]

That’s cute. That’s like me and my best friend when she told me she’d never seen any of the Indiana Jones movies

[@SingingSealRiana]

@@Overseer2579 hihihi ^^

[@quitekelly7451]

Loved this review! I’m going to pick on one small thing, Darcy and Elizabeth *are* from the same class. He is a gentleman and she is a gentleman’s daughter- both gentry. The largest problem for the Bennet girls is their father based his financial plan on having a son and did not properly invest for his daughters to have a dowry. Additionally, they have an aunt who *did* marry outside her class, which is a “low” connection, and they have no significant higher connections. Marrying a Bennet daughter provides no advantages at all, but isn’t like marrying someone from the working class.

[@carolprince16]

THIS! I'm so glad someone pointed this out.

[@quitekelly7451]

@@carolprince16 I hoped I’d find another Austen Nerd. 😉❤️📚

[@genevieva_b]

yes, except it's actually Mrs. Bennet who married up

[@quitekelly7451]

@@genevieva_b Curious how you arrived at that conclusion! Would enjoy hearing your thoughts!

[@genevieva_b]

@@quitekelly7451 it's in the book, Lady Catherine brings it up in reply to Elizabeth's "I am a gentleman's daughter". Lady C confronts her with "But who was your mother?"

[@lesmortimers4791]

What makes the love story of Pride & Prejudice such a prevailing gem is that both Elizabeth and Darcy step out of their own perspective and preconceived notions in order to be better for, for themselves and for each other. So much romance fiction is written under the assumption that you need to change your partner to fit you, that love will turn "a bad boy to a gentleman" and that it's your partner's job to cause a metamorphosis so that the love interest can sensibly BE the love interest - that's why so much of it is horribly toxic. PP allows these two people to meet each other where they are and help each other to where they want to go. Elizabeth allows Darcy to dismantle her armor of sarcasm and aloofness, something she donned because she was always perceived to be witty, but not beautiful, as well as her low status and oftentimes ridiculous family. At the same time, she allows him to be authentic and vulnerable. She shows him a way to care for people that's not destructive or self-centered. All he does is genuinely out of love, but he goes about it in terrible ways. Even in his confession scene, Darcy doesn't realize he's being insulting by telling Elizabeth that he loves her in spite of all of her "failings". He tries to express his genuine affection, but doesn't understand that he's being really hurtful by refusing to step outside his own perspective. Elizabeth is easily convinced to feed her own prejudice, because she, too, has a limited worldview. She aligns with supposed down-on-his-luck hero Wickham over seemingly cruel and privileged Darcy, because she sees herself as the underdog. Just like she and her family is looked down on by the ton, she is ready to believe Wickham's account of Darcy because he is a symbol of all the people who have ever ridiculed her and her family. She would like to believe that Darcy (and thus the other high status people who abused her) is a villain, so it's more easy for herself so see herself as the hero. Meeting Lady Catherine, however, she realizes that her quickness to judge Darcy was unfair. What makes Darcy such a great character is his willingness to learn and step out of his own privilege. He understands he offended Elizabeth with his terse behavior, so he makes an effort to be more sociable and talkative when he meets her afterwards. He understands he was rude by not asking her to dance, so he asks her to dance the next time. She called him out for being rude about her family, so he goes out of his way to accommodate her uncle and aunt. In the beginning, even just the mention of Wickham immediately sends him into a flying rage. And still, he puts his history with the man aside because he would rather protect Elizabeth than punish Wickham. THAT is growth. We love to see it. And - this is something most romances sadly ignore - he changes and betters himself even without the hope of ever being with her. Elizabeth makes it very clear that she will never fall in love with him, and still, he continues his quest to be more sociable, he still helps her sister, he still reunites Bingley and Jane. Not because he tries to get with her, but because he cares so much about making her happy and becoming a better man for her. Even in the end, when she gives him a sliver of hope by her changed behavior, he still approaches her from a place of hopeful insecurity rather than entitlement. He legitimately loves her. To come back to the comparison to "Twilight" - Edward wants to own, be with, protect and watch Bella. Darcy wants to love her. Huge difference. This story is absolute perfection, 10/10 would cry again

[@MrBroadstone]

I grew up not far from where they shot the Longbourn scenes and I really appreciate that this film looks like where it is meant to be. Many period dramas are overly grand and don’t get the feeling of the countryside but the countryside scenes are so nostalgic for me as it looks like where I grew up! (Minus the grand house)

[@laurenandcats]

Ah! So jealous. I was in Sheffield for awhile and went to Chatsworth a few times. The English countryside is so beautiful. Sometimes I’d just look out of the car window in awe

[@ConstanzeWeber]

I'm not a million miles from where they shot the first proposal scene, Stourhead in Wiltshire; gorgeous in the sun and in the pouring rain!!

[@Serenity113]

Kiera Knightly said in an interview that Joe Wright hesitant of casting her as Elizabeth Bennet because he thought she was too pretty but then he met her in person and he was like, “oh no, you’re alright.” 😂

[@fideletamo4292]

That's the most backward non superficial compliment ever..lol, being pretty is not a virtue...

[@iansadler4309]

@@fideletamo4292 It's a mistake some versions make (imo). Jane needs to be prettier than Lizzie, Wickham needs to be more attractive than Darcy.

[@fideletamo4292]

@@iansadler4309 true, but rosamund is prettier than Keira by far...and Wickham was prettier than Darcy too in this movie

[@Narra0002]

I’m happy Megan was included in this episode. Hearing her insight was great and I hope to see her in future videos

[@pinkpandamiranda]

I love how in this film Darcy is so shy! He has all this money, but he's an introvert and lives in a society where he really can't be! It's so good!

[@bethanytrees4647]

My husband was VERY confused when I told him he needed to talk to my dad before proposing. It wasn’t an idea he was raised with and he thought it was weird, but I cared that my dad approved of him, and my husband cared that it was important to me, so he asked. If dad had said no, I had already made up my mind and would have married him anyways, but it would have hurt to have that disapproval. I love how Lizzie’s dad realizes this about his daughter, and trusts her enough to give his approval even though he’s maybe not quite convinced yet that Mr. Darcy is the right choice.

[@runningfromabear8354]

@Helena Carlock No. No, sorry. If my husband had spoken to my father first, I would have been furious. I have a wonderful relationship with my family and took their opinions of my boyfriends to heart. But as a grown adult, it would have been a major overstep to ask permission from my father.

[@SarahRichardsGraba]

I asked my husband to get a blessing from my family (both parents) after he asked me to marry him. It was important to me that they be part of the process, not so much "permission" but that we were all entering into this together. My mom's response was, "Well did Sarah say yes?" 😂

[@Daph909]

@@runningfromabear8354 Right?! I told my dad a long time ago that if anyone ever asks for his approval to marry me or anything of the likes, he should tell them no. If someone cares more about my father's approval than my own opinion and my own ability to choose the kind of life I want, they do not deserve to be with me.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

I like the idea of each party talking to the other's parents before getting engaged (maybe particularly the boyfriend to the dad, & girlfriend to the mom). Obviously they shouldn't need the parents permission, but part of me suspects that there are a lot of blind spots that can come up with guys and gals trying to get a sense of each other, so I think it could be helpful to get a second opinion from that other perspective.

[@murielbaith5445]

@@runningfromabear8354 , but they have already made their minds up about their relationship. They are just hoping her father will approve. Up til marriage a father in their culture is responsible for his daughter. It is a symbolic passing of that responsibility to the couple.

[@steampunkfox4932]

I would love to see you two cover Scott Pilgrim Vs The World. As a relationship therapist I would imagine that Jonathan would have a lot to say about the relationships in the movie

[@nexus7512]

Oh my God that would be such a great crossover! But i do feel like the books portray a better sense of Ramona's depression and Scott's derealization

[@steampunkfox4932]

@@nexus7512 I definitely agree with you there but I still think that the movie provides enough for them to talk about. Maybe they could make it a crossover with someone who has read the graphic novels if they haven’t read them

[@msk-qp6fn]

omfg we were assigned this movie for next week in intro to film class 😂

[@Fightingforthelost]

Legit, as much as I enjoy the film, the ending of the book is SOOO good. It's not just this confession, it's conversation and connection and communicating with each other and UGH, I love it.

[@kylenalysa]

"we get locked in our own perspective as THE perspective" wow, that's so powerful.

[@etherealtb6021]

Elizabeth changed too! It is more clear in the book, as it is more of an internal change. She learns to be less judgemental and more tolerant. They both had to change to be together. It is like a real relationship. As you all said, I think that's why this story will always resonate with people!

[@frazierclan2000]

I think that Macfadyen was right about Darcy and so that's why he was able to play him so well. Macfadyen said that much of Darcy's apparent pride and coldness was simply shyness. A shy but gorgeous man who is forced into prominence by his family's wealth which he now must be responsible for is not an easy role in movies or in real life. Darcy had some prejudice that had been drummed into him by his family, but it doesn't seem that was really his choice. The change in the movie came when both characters decided to throw off the expectations and prejudice of their society and find happiness for themselves. The change was a gradual one that came in stages throughout the movie so that everyone could watch it happening.

[@timanderson6005]

My ex brother in law was shy like D'Arcy upon first meeting or in public. Once on his own turf he was great fun however. He was a bit autistic and was very bright. Very! As is Darcy . One of the reasons Darcy likes Lizzie is because she is smart and loves books. Such a good film.

[@emulychan]

I read the book differently though. Mr Darcy really believes that rightful pride has virtue. He was not shy nor awkward. But it can at a cost of being stiff and less able to let go and have fun.

[@c3ka]

Wow I didn't know the actor said those - definitely nailed it. There's something I want to add to your comment though, I don't think Darcy's family injected any prejudice into him. I don't remember ever getting any negative impression of his family, I feel like they were really gentle and well-bred, so naturally Darcy must've been brought up the same way. Those good manners wouldn't allow them to sow prejudice in their son. But! Maybe after losing his parents, as a shy and gentle young man with people like Wickham in his circle, Darcy might've learned to be cautious, cynical, even jaded. And later with characters like Ms. Bingley around him, I imagine he would've been reminded often to look out for himself (because he was such a catch) and be more rational, practical, materialistic etc. I don't know if anyone will care but I really love talking about these matters!

[@franziskani]

@@emulychan Darcy knew about his social awkwardness. But because he was so rich and from a prominent family, he got away with it, did not suffer attention and people seeking his aquaintance and never really had the motivation to learn to be better with people (which is a bit scary in the beginning and therefore uncomfortable). The scene where Darcy, Bingley and his sister come to the country dance (first time they meet the locals) and Bingley is immediately friends with everyone, completely at his ease and has a good time. He then goes to Darcy and says: do not stand around, lots of pretty girls here to dance with, I can help you - for instance the second oldest Miss Bennet (he had already danced with Jane and had more dances reserved with her). Thing is: Mr. Bingleys ancestors were trade, he and his parents were rich, but they were new money. Mr. Dary had higher social status, and was old money, and did not like it that his friend offered to introduce / present him. "Help" him. Bingley accepts Darcy in the leading role in their relationship - but Bingley is more competent in that area, and this was a situation where the lower ranking individual = Bingley suggested to introduce the higher ranking individual = Darcy (which was much more clumsy than him in social relations). Rank was really important and a bit of that showed up even in their friendship. Darcy is a good friend to Bingly but I think he feels like the older brother and kind of superior and knows more of the world (being a property owner, the guardian of his sister, business affairs). So that may explain Darcy's snappish reaction (Me. Dancing with THOSE girls - I paraphrase) to the friendly offer by Bingley (who did not want to brag). Darcy knows he lacks social skills but does not like to be reminded). It was a change of roles here, Bingley tries to get Darcy to do things - in most cases their friendship functioned the other way round, Darcy was the one to give advice to Bingley and knew more about the world (he was older, had more responsibilities towards the tenants on his property, etc.) Darcy was bored (and felt above all these country folks, lower gentry) but he might have phrased it in a less snappish, less insulting manner if Bingly had not unintentionally bruised his ego.

[@fangchick93]

Yeah, I can't blame Lizzie, if someone confessed to me after insulting my family they would get one heck of a tongue lashing. Wealth and societal elevation means nothing compared to family bonds of love. Fun fact about me: my great grandfather was in line for a lordship when he fell in love with my great grandmother, while she was also descended from a noble family, her branch didn't have the title, wealth nor lands, so he had to choose between her and a title and life of privilege. He chose her and they were happy together in times of fat and lean. He never treated her as lesser due to her birth and was passionately in love with her until he passed at 60, she never remarried or even dated anyone else because she still loved him. They weren't poor, but they were definitely not in the financial bracket he could have been, but that never mattered to them. I have their engagement ring, and while it's not worth anything financially, it's beautiful and the sentimental value is beyond any price to me. I wear it on a chain as a rememberance of my great grandmother and the love she bore.

[@fideletamo4292]

It's funny how some people don't see how disrespectful and arrogant Darcy was from the begining to the 1st proposal, he was all about his social rank..i can't stand this kind of people..lol..

[@megriorso4516]

This is so beautiful!! As someone who is slightly cynical of love, it's such a heartwarming thing to hear.

[@maryeckel9682]

What a beautiful story

[@lyle_marie_ceniza]

So touching.....❤❤❤.

[@meganluck4352]

That is lovely, thank you for sharing. I am sure it is a very lovely ring also as much as it is sentimental to you.

[@JesusChrist-pp7bi]

props to the oldest girls for sticking it out and persuing their happiness while their family was being *the worst™*

[@libitouwen6697]

I actually really love Mary (if I remember correct she is the youngest). She was right and the most observant throughout the book and had some wit to her. But mrs Bennet was kind of insane.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

@Libi Touwen Mrs Bennet wasn’t insane (although I would say the acting here and in the 1995 version is not ideal, even if the actresses have talent they miss the character a bit and think she is more stupid and shrill than she is). The financial situation was really terrible after Mr Bennet dies. In this film they are actually too poor looking, they are still fine. But after he dies they are left with nearly nothing. The estate is entailed so Mr Collins gets it, and Mr and Mrs Bennet assumed they would have a son so didn’t save money. Mr Bennet is as much to blame as her for the finances but while the book and Elizabeth herself late in it realizes this he adaptations seem to idealize him since he is witty and defends Elizabeth. But he basically has washed off his hands over the situation when he won’t get effected by the negatives at all when they only happen after his death. He doesn’t really protect Lydia who is 15 years old and a predator convicted her to run away and sleep with him for his own amusement because Mr Bennet let go to Brighton even though Elizabeth warned against him (Mrs Bennet also let her but Elizabeth did not speak to her and it’s the father who is supposed to take care of these things in this society and Mr Bennet didn’t really do much to parent his daughers even if he did care). Mrs Bennet had some drowry that is invested so she and the girls would only have that income to depend upon. If none of the girls would marry they would have to move to live with her sister or brother and neither is wealthy enough to really support 6 people, at least according to standards of the class. At least some of the girls would have to become governesses like Jane Eyre. And those were horrible treated often during this period (by predatory men and jealous wives and paid mostly by the upkeep and lacked good changes to marry since they didn’t really belong to that class anymore). Mrs Bennet also has family background of trade (which is what Darcy judges although Bingley is also from trade but wealthier so it’s but hypocritical). She wasn’t really educated to know how to behave the way it’s expected. That’s why she gets judged, but the adaptations portray it just being ridiculous. It’s true she is a bit ridiculous. But it’s a real fear of hers and classicism on top of it. If one of the girls actually married well they would all be fine since the one girls husband could help a lot in keeping them houses and give connections to other girls. You can go to see in Ellie Dashwood and Dr Octavia Cox channels for more deep analysis. But I wrote too much already!

[@laurenlongfellow9714]

@@libitouwen6697Mary was 18, only 2 years younger than Elizabeth. Lydia is the youngest, at 15.

[@wrenithilduincats]

@@libitouwen6697 Jane is the oldest, Eliza the next, Mary the middle child, Kitie the second youngest, but still greatly influenced by the youngest, Lydia, at 16.

[@Shawnasart76597]

This is one of my favourite movies ever, I watch it whenever I need comfort and calm. It was a beautiful day when my partner asked if he could watch it with me because he knew how much I love it.

[@reikun86]

Haha at least your partner is supportive. My boyfriend just says I was born in the wrong century because I love period pieces. 😅

[@Shawnasart76597]

@@reikun86 It was extra surprising and endearing because it is not at all the type of movie he enjoys, but he wanted to watch it because I loved it 😊

[@reikun86]

@@Shawnasart76597 Aww...That's so sweet!

[@Raaslen]

I LOVE THIS MOVIE! I literally wrote a paper about how every scene of it is shot to fit the painting style of that period in university so I am very, very happy to see a video from you guys about it! And just one addendum from Darcy's second proposal is that he only did it because Elizabeth refused to promise his aunt that she wouldn't marry him, which gave him hope that her feelings for him could have changed, otherwise he would never have done it

[@GrandisSilva]

Yes he loved how angry Lizzie made Lady Catherine!

[@nazaret9500]

omg, do you have your paper somewhere in the web? it would be amazing to read it

[@Ojo10]

Wow that's amazing

[@Raaslen]

@@nazaret9500 I don't know if it is online, but I can look for it, the only problem might be that it's written in Portuguese

[@retto1155]

Congratulations, this is officially my favourite cinema therapy episode XD I love how you guys all love this movie as much as I do, it was so great seeing you all get giddy at the humour and the intensity and just. All I can do is gesture my hands around cos I have no words jkdfhg thank you for this 🥺

[@robbinruffino1201]

The part where Bingley was practicing his proposal: the two actors were actually rehearsing the scene where he goes in an proposes and the mother starts tapping and he loses his nerve (the scene before this one) and the director was watching them rehearse and filmed it! Simon Woods (Bingley) couldn’t get the scene right -that’s why he said ‘this is a disaster!’ The director put it in the film to have you interpret Bingley s nervousness.

[@iwillmakeit27]

I have to mention that the scene when they dance together where the first cut is, suddenly they are dancing alone in an empty room. The crowds disappear as if they’re the only people in the room, they’re so transfixed on each other and being so close but so far away from each other’s understanding. It is my favorite thing oh my god

[@elafimilo8199]

When you started talking about color palette, it reminded me of when we put on Sense and Sensibility and my cat Jordan, a very skittish boi, jumped right up. He was enthralled. That was how I learned that he loves movies like this one. He liked Much Ado About Nothing too.

[@paramitch]

Your cat has exquisite taste!

[@user-ed7et3pb4o]

Your cat knows what's up! MADN is my favourite Shakespeare play too.

[@taom9004]

LMAO. Your cat and I share the same taste in movies, LOL.

[@fruzsimih7214]

The Kenneth Branagh version of Much Ado About Nothing is such a gorgeous movie! I saw it in a theater on a cold and wet November afternoon - I certainly felt warmer and in high spirits afterwards.

[@rebecky5ever]

Pride and Prejudice is THE romance story of the history of fiction. It's written in a relatable and warm sort of cozy way that is so comfortable to me. I can read or see it a million times and my heart always clenches

[@Basai7]

The "zoom lens sort of creeping in and out", in my opinion, emulates breathing through the intensity of the moment. The revelation of actions, the welling of emotion, the truth in expression...all heightened by that small lens adjustment. 💕✨ Genius. I love the decision to use the rich warm earthy color palette. Her relationship with her father is a hearthstone upon which she can stand as she investigates relating to suitors, especially Mr. Darcy. 💕✨👍🏻 ...AND...you quote from Mr. Collins' sermon which is SO relevant to Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth's sodden encounter at the Temple of Apollo! 🔥👍🏻⚡️

[@kryskay989]

Something that gets me with Pride and Prejudice is the use of 'breath' in the filmmaking... There are moments where you hear a character take a breath and it's like a zoom lens for the ears that hyper-focuses you into the moment and helps you feel the weight of the moment the characters are in.

[@jessieborrell1856]

Definitely watch the BBC mini-series with Collin Firth! Both adaptations have their strengths and weaknesses for sure. One thing I love about the miniseries is how Mr. Bennett is SO sarcastic and at times MEAN (especially to Mrs. Bennett). Jennifer Ehle's acting as Elizabeth is really wonderful. She encompasses the playfulness of Lizzy's character and her body language and acting with her eyes is just fantastic. She's a bit more subtle but still embodies the character of Lizzy so well. The actress also has a KZbin channel and she has read the entire book and has it on her channel.

[@Nazuna500]

I also love in the mini series how the actress of miss Bingley really LEANS into the whole mean girl bit. it wonderful to watch.

[@Freaky0Nina]

I always thought that everyone except Lizzy's acting was so over the top, they felt more like carricatures. I even started feeling sorry for the middle sister, it felt like the series wanted me to join in the bullying and it felt so mean.

[@gaiafox]

and the atmosphere, costumes, characters portrayal (both acting and screenplay) are so much closer to the book in mini series I found this movie unwatchable with how NOT like Lizzie Keira was (neurotic, twitchy, hysterical nearly) and altough music and colours were lovely the portrayal of Bennets as peasant like farmers is just plain WRONG, I could go on and on.. 😁

[@kittykat5056]

Yes! There's so much more content in this story which the series has the time to tell

[@n4l9bx]

@@gaiafox How did you find Keira twitchy or hysterical?

[@adri7352]

For me the most beautiful love story in P&P is the father-daughter bond between Lizzy and her dad. They really loved and protected each other, and their relationship was so special, not to mention full of respect and kindness. The last scene with them makes me cry every time I watch it. He wanted her to be happy and to have exactly the life she wanted, just like Darcy. ❤

[@maiabou5036]

I love the part where Mr Bingley is practicing how to propose to Jane and Darcy is role playing as her. I think it’s adorable but also shows how much he cares for his friend’s happiness and how he has endless patience and willingness to help. It’s very small but I always get excited for that snippet.

[@claudiag8823]

Another great episode. And while you're at it, would you consider some day doing Sense & Sensibility? The version with Emma Thompson and the marvellous Alan Rickman, of course

[@korganrocks3995]

Yes, please! I'd love to see them talk about the toxic relationship between Marianne and Willoughby, even early on when everything seems rosy. They bring out the worst in eachother despite seeming to be perfect for eachother...

[@voyance4elle]

I love the director Ang Lee