✅ There Is Only One WINNER! - T-Mobile vs Verizon 5G Home Internet - Some Work Better Than Others

Here's the pros, cons and differences of these 5G fixed wireless cellular home internet offerings from Verizon and T-Mobile. I compare Verizon's 4G LTE, Verizon's 5G C-Band and UWB and the T-Mobile 5G home internet gateways and service. I cover the T-Mobile Nokia "trashcan" and the Arcadyan KVD21 "darth vader". I compare the services of each of these devices and give some first hand experience of their performance for things like speed, ping, consistency, VPN, VoIP, gateway settings, port forwarding, unlimited data, gaming, streaming and geolock. All of these are "fixed wireless" home internet solutions and are intended to remain at your service address (home) but I test whether these can be moved and still work and how you can sign up for the service when your home address "isn't available".
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[@isaacsaw]

I’m in a great area for both services -5G UC for TMo and 5G UW for Verizon. I have tested three gateways - Nokia, Arcadyan for TMO and the small white cube for Verizon. Verizon wins hands down on consistency and bluffer-bloat management meaning I have no issues with competitive gaming even while someone else streams Netflix for example. Verizon gives me me a solid 300 down / 20 up no matter the time of day. TMobile had better overall speeds -I got anywhere from 300-6/700 down and 40 up and it was a solid connection BUT anytime I tried to game while my wife was watching Netflix , the lag on the gaming was terrible. I’ve done numerous and repeated bluffer-bloat tests on waveform for both services and Verizon was always a solid “A” for me while TMO was generally a “D” or “F”. If T-Mobile can resolve the bluffer-bloat issue, they’d have a winner. I decided to keep Verizon.

[@frankmichels6317]

T mobile was good. They can't solve our cell phone problems..

[@comixof2morrow]

It's because T-Mobile is having issues with their 5G and can't figure out what is wrong.

[@comixof2morrow]

4G LTE is faster anyways when it comes to Download Speeds. 5G is better on Upload Speed but you can easily pull 900+ Mbps Down and in the hundreds on the Up with the T-Mobile Gateway when connected to 2 Proxicast Cellular Antennas...4G LTE is more stable too.

[@nellatl]

But verizon geolocks. Pain in the azz!

[@prodbykaioken]

I’m happy your getting good speeds but as trucker who has now tried owned Verizon, T-mobile & Straight talk and takes these devices on the road to city and remote locations. Verizon is shit 💩. Your having good speeds do to your convent location to the towers. Their off brand Straight talk out performed all test I did against the Verizon Business 5G WiFi which got speeds up to 200mbps for less than a minute then floats around 10mbps whereas the straight talk will float at higher speeds but is capped at 100mbps and is cheaper lol. I just bought t-mobiles device on business account to test them out but allot of truckers vouch for it already

[@frank-bmtz]

Interesting fact based on my experience. I had the Arcadayn gateway (regular T-Mobile home internet plan) and now I have the Nokia Gateway and signed up for the small business internet plan and my performance has been a lot better and more consistent. I had the Arcadayn unit replaced three different times, and so far I'm super happy with the Nokia gateway.

[@btbarr16]

Didn't the Nokia one have a lot of issues too?

[@BTimmer]

I've been on TMHI (Nokia) for 5 months in the south Seattle area. It's been terrific with download speeds generally in excess of 130mpbs and uploads from 4 to 18 and latency in the mid 30's. I only can get 2 bars no matter which direction I face it. It's been fabulous saving $100/month compared to Comcast. We did have to subscribe to YTube TV to get local TV stations as we live right under the approach to a major international airport and we couldn't get satisfactory over the air TV signals.

[@schoc13]

I'm down toward JBLM and my speeds for TM are no better than 40 mbps download, average 130 pings, so I'll be getting back my xfinity internet today which I gave up last Sunday, close to 400 mbps and about 12 pings, thought it would be good to have one bill but not working out but love TM other than that!! :)

[@asianstud7]

Loved all your videos on the subject of 5g Home internet so far. Thank you for your through reviews and hard work!!

[@JRPittman]

I had the old T-mobile “trash can” gateway for a year and was happy with it until the end of March 2022 when two storms hit a week apart. The local tower stopped broadcasting 5G and the signal strength of the LTE dropped by half. T-mobileswears there is nothing wrong with the tower, but after 2 1/2 months of only having internet by hotspot off my phone I had to turn in the gateway and cancel my service. Until that point it was great having wireless internet. After Hurricane Ida last year we had internet as soon as we started a generator. That cable lines were torn up for weeks. Verizon home internet is not available in my area.

[@hubertomitchellofficial]

lets go from LA too

[@MitchMitch77-77]

Not missing anything with Verizon! Excellent service ALWAYS but once you become an "old" longtime customer, they treat you like a foodstamp in a liquor store!

[@aguiremedia]

Always informative content! Thanks Nater!

[@righteousone1]

I've had T-Mobile (Nokia) for 5 months and I honestly couldn't be more happier coming from Comcast! I've had to power it on/off weekly the first month because the internet would freeze but after that I've never had any issues. Verizon might be faster but it's always been more expensive.

[@nathancasey7712]

Faster where?

[@delandostayreal288]

​@@nathancasey7712 Verizon better

[@faithfulec8069]

We had T-MOBILE FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS. We are loving it. Connections are great . I used to have Verizon and att. Had to cancel the service because I live close to beach and lots of trees around it. Plus they are expensive. T-MOBILE straight $50.00 never up of price. Straight $50.00, plus it is unlimited internet never SLOW DOWN. I LOVE MY T-MOBILE. I REALLY DO LOVE T-MOBILE.

[@NaterTater]

Glad you're enjoying it!

[@ChosenOneDan]

thanks for the awesome video comparing these I just got a nokia unit from t mobile I went ahead and ordered that cooling fan to help stabilize the connection I still need to move it around and see whats the absolute best spot in my home

[@carolanderson1011]

Other then a 2 week period where I was only getting 50Mbps down I've been averaging 200 to 300 Mbps. Something today though has changed ,(for the good) today I'm getting 600Mbps down with upload speed of 60Mbps. My trashcan has been rock solid. With my employee discount TMHI is 30 dollars a month cheaper then the local cable co. 6 months in very satisfied with TMHI.

[@NaterTater]

wow, nice!

[@gperz743]

Love the unbiased review! They should throw in a deal for your honest thoughts though!!

[@johncraig406]

Good video, I have the T-mobile Inseego M2000 Hotspots, and get good service and speeds. My address says "Not Available" for "At Home Unlimited", the hotspots are 100GB/month, which is why I have two of them. speeds for me run up to 150 in slow periods, and about 50-75 down in Prime Time right now at 9:30 PM CST

[@jamesmelone3813]

I just got Verizon 5 g internet and it’s been fantastic so far no complaints what’s so ever.

[@Just_Manny305]

Curious to know, do any of these services throttle your speed in high usage situations like they do to our cell phones when we’re at a major event?

[@drxav1]

Thanks for the very useful info, Which of these will be the best for a small office using PCs with Windows10 and IE browsers my computers are over 5 years old.

[@kodihi24]

Yep got the 5g home internet and it is absolutely fantastic. Left Xfinity the same day.

[@Jeffisright]

Great video! I’ve had the T-Mobile 5G for a little over a week now. So far it’s been reliable. Verizon 5G home internet is not available in my area at the moment, so it’s not an option. I also currently still have my Spectrum internet because I want to make sure my T-Mobile 5G is reliable before I go to the trouble of canceling it. I can also get AT&T fiber too. But for the moment, I’m going for the cheapest, which is T-Mobile at $50 month. It is $25 a month cheaper than Spectrum, I’ve been promised a $50 prepaid Mastercard if I keep it 2 months and I get Paramount+ free for one year and $10 a month off my Philo streaming service for one year. I’ve experienced Wi-Fi speeds with the 5G T-Mobile in the 100-500 mbps range, but it’s more consistent at around mid 200. Honestly, I don’t check it anymore. As long as I’m streaming HD with no problems and not having issues with my other connected devices I’m happy. Not had to reboot or unplug the gateway I was sent like others have stated yet. Time will tell. If Verizon opens up in my area I will give it a try. But I believe the cell tower no more than a quarter of a mile near me does have 5G on it because all but the last bar is constant with my gateway. Honestly, Verizon has always sucked in my area and I live in the city. AT&T is currently my cell service because their speeds have always been very reliable and very fast. Verizon will really have to step up their game for me to try them, because it’s all about data speeds for me, in cell phone and certainly now with 5G internet starting up around my area.

[@NaterTater]

Thanks. Sounds like you have lots of options!

[@BudFuddlacker]

I was shipped a Nokia Gateway when I first signed up. I constantly had multiple error messages, always had to reset, non-stop unproductive time-sucking calls to customer service for outages…..they replaced with another Nokia-all the same problems. They sent me yet another Nokia--AGAIN all the same problems. I called and ‘demanded’ an Arcadyan gateway or I was going to cancel. They sent me the Arcadyan and I haven’t had a single problem since. I think it really depends on your area/tower/bands which one works better. If you’re having a lot of problems with the Nokia and want to cancel, I would give the Arcadyan a try first

[@NaterTater]

Good point

[@FloodGold]

Wow, thanks for this review. I just checked and I'm located within the Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband coverage area which is awesome because I really need port forwarding.

[@NaterTater]

Awesome!

[@jaymipanchoo8465]

Are you still looking to get verizon 5g home

[@FloodGold]

Unfortunately it didn't work out and it's not yet available Ugh

[@donnaindigo]

Great video. Unfortunately, I'm in an area where neither verizon nor t mobile home internet is available. Spectrum internet sucks had this for many years and the price is steep at $84.

[@kolbymartin2749]

Just because verizon says your address doesn’t qualify doesn’t mean the box won’t work at your house (and the first 0 days is free anyways ) so you can send it back if it doesn’t work to your liking , but you can order it online or threw the my Verizon app , I can tell you how to get around the address issue , however I would only recommend getting rhe 4g LTE service if ur stress actually doesn’t qualify cuz it will work much better than the 5g

[@oliviamaynard9372]

I have the Verizon one you mentioned first. Omg it's so fast.

[@Iconoclast3]

Hi Nater! Do any of these services have support GRE, PPTP or TCP port 1723 that will communicate with VPN?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Super helpful stuff! Thanks!

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome!

[@anthonygarfield4854]

upgraded to 5g from lte when c band became available in mid janurary. consistent 300 330 mbs download and 20 up. limited to those speeds but cant complain at 25.00 a month with play more unlimited phone plan.

[@NaterTater]

Exactly! And should be consistent

[@theruralresident]

Regarding bridge mode (10:10) and the VZW cube, yes there is a factory setting to configure it in bridge mode rather than manually configuring DMZ, DHCP, etc. Its buried, but here are the steps: Login to the VZW gateway > Advanced > Network Settings > Network (under Network Name) > Settings and then check the box for IP Passthrough. Done! This will disable DHCP and WIFI among other aspects so best to be wired rather than wireless when performing this. Additionally, LAN port 2 is the only port to be wired to your router when IP Passthrough is enabled. Awesome videos, Nate! Really enjoy them. I also run both TMO and VZW 5G home devices at my house for internet service. Agree on all points about TMO unit being very limited on customization/settings and connection stability. VZW wins hands down.

[@NaterTater]

they added the ip passthrough with firmware updates (they removed it for a while after a bug prevented it from working correctly).

[@N6EAJ]

I have both the T-mobile trashcan and the Verizon C-band cube (non-plus plan). Ignoring that I had to add external antennas to the T-mobile gateway to get good speeds (n41), I prefer the Verizon cube for several reasons. 1. Although the T-mobile gateway can get over 400Mbps at off times, at peak times it may fall below 200. The Verizon gateway is actively limited to 300Mbps and it is that speed every time (it peaks close to 400, but then you see the speed limit in work as it drops to 300). I'd much rather have the consistent speed of the Verizon gateway of 300 down, 20 up every time. 2. The T-mobile trashcan will jump from a decent 4G primary signal on B66 (at -99dBm) to band B2 at -109dBm. When it does that, I don't get n41. I have to restart the trashcan once or several times to get back to n41 (b66/n41) 3. Minor point, but the Verizon cube looks better than the trashcan T-mobile takes the win for me on ping.... often 15-19mS. Verizon ping is not bad and usually in the low to high 20mS. I get an "A" grade on the buffer bloat test on Verizon. We are fairly rural (propane tanks and septic tanks, but

[@NaterTater]

Great summary and very similar to me!

[@elgusano6535]

You see for ping Verizon is better for me the t mobile one sucks my ping on rainbow six siege is like 100 and on Verizon is like 40 50 steady

[@N6EAJ]

@@elgusano6535 I imagine it is location, location, location or tower, tower, tower. Your speeds and pings are going to depend on exactly where you live and what towers you connect to.

[@elgusano6535]

@@N6EAJ yea but t mobile still sucks lmaoo

[@nathancasey7712]

@@elgusano6535 Why does it suck? I pull 700 down in a very rural area

[@techsavy5669]

How do you turn that dhcp layer/filter off in the small Verizon box!? I went through all the advanced settings under wifi configurations , couldn’t find it! 😐

[@stewall101]

Testing out the Verizon 5G and having a few minor problems but I have ordered the T-Mobile unit (arriving tomorrow, 4/13/22). From what I understand, if I want to open my front door lock (U-Tec) from outside my home, at work, say, I cannot do this with the T-Mobile unit (without jumping thru innumerous hoops). Same with MyQ garage door openers, I guess? Is this correct? Thanks for all your videos, I've watched this one 3 times already!

[@NaterTater]

I'm not familiar with U-Tec but many home automation services are actually cloud based for processing so in those cases the T-mobile does work. For example I use Smartthings for my home automation and and I can control all my devices outside of my home network. Same for Ring and blink cameras and meross garage door opener. However if there is a need to directly connect to a device (ie you had to setup port forwarding to a specific local IP address) then thats where you run into issues with T-mobile.

[@derrickmd18]

i had comcast and I was getting 1gb service for over 100 bucks a month. verizon 5gmm wave they installed a tower 1 house down from me and i'm getting 1.629GB of speed and 400mb of upload for 70 a month. :-) I canceled comcast.

[@8TRAPVLOGS]

if you get an unlimited plan service with them, you can get it for $25 a month

[@mrcontroversy222]

@@8TRAPVLOGS whatttttt?

[@darrenbeller5440]

I changed to Verizon . it's crazy wireless is faster.

[@8TRAPVLOGS]

@John Ringo i have $25 a month w/autopay

[@SzymczykProductions]

You'll never use anything past 80mbps. So yeah great speeds but you'll never use it

[@fitybux4664]

Much value gained from this video. Thank you!!!

[@NaterTater]

you're welcome. I cannot keep up with your comment rampage. 😵

[@adamwillcox8175]

I found your channel after being on T-mobile for a few months. Your videos have been helpful! I'm relatively happy with the service although I wish I didn't have to reboot it every day to keep things responsive. It could be the WiFi on my desktop though. I'm going to use your video to kill the native WiFi and see how it does on my own. Overall I'm still happy experimenting on this than sticking with Comcast. I'm two weeks away from testing Verizon at this address as well. I appreciate your focus on latency as well, it's my biggest issue with t-mobile at the moment. Loaded latency is very high at my location as well and this is born out in some gaming. Sometimes it's okay but it's rare that I can play for a full hour without a hiccup. I'm on the Arcadyan.

[@NaterTater]

Glad my videos are helping!

[@adamwillcox8175]

@@NaterTater Verizon was no-go at my location, their own coverage maps turned out to be very accurate in my area. The operators were all “how did you even get a radio? normally it won’t let you buy one if there’s no coverage.” lol. But t-mobile is still solid. Even with inclement weather, I had service with a good packet shaper in front of it. I want to start measure packet fragmentation if possible and get a new router that can efficiently make smaller MTU’s rumored to perform better over cellular. Not sure if you’ve played with that or not yet.

[@NaterTater]

@@adamwillcox8175 the default 1500 MTU packet size works best for me other than VPN which I use 1320

[@lorettaferrel1761]

I am in an area thats not great..trees all around tmobile and Verizon not in my area but tmoble let me try it anyway. It actually worked pretty good the first week..downloads about 180 and uploads around 20..it didn't last long can't stream any TV without it buffering now..any ideas to help the speed? I have tried moving it around but I'm in a camper next to my property while my house gets built. Thank You!

[@Istandal0ne1]

I just ordered Verizon plus. I'm going to see what its like. Cable prices are outrageous! Good reviews buddy! High 5

[@NaterTater]

Thanks! Let us know how it works out. Should be around 300/20 Mbps.

[@circuithijacker]

An excellent presentation and comparison!!!

[@NaterTater]

Thanks!

[@catnipkitty]

Im really happy with Tmobile internet. I have never been impressed with Verizons customer service so that tips the scale for me.

[@johnriffel2347]

In regards to the Verizon 4G/LTE/5G. As someone out in the country with little to no options this has been working great. Much better than a previous wireless provider that Verizon bought out. It is now used as a backup for Starlink which was ordered long before this was available. If there is anything bad to say about it is the customer service trying to actually order the service. I had taken my system to immediate neighbors homes looking for a solution for them to test and order. Upon them calling to order everyone one of them were told it was not available until one spent countless time arguing and on the phone with them to discover if they all used my address they could order and have shipped to their addresses. Once we discovered this it was no issue for the others to order using my address. Only issue was one neighbors system was deactivated and after countless time on the phone was finally reactivated. The automated phone system is horrible as is the online chat features. But hey it works great!

[@NaterTater]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@waydephilpot3749]

Tmo only approves x amount of subscribers within small areas and its all based on current capacity. You can be approved now, but that can change in the future if your neighbors have subscribed to the service....As they would use some bandwidth. I use the Nokia unit and its been super reliable for me, bit i lve heard of others having issues with it.

[@tvmom]

My verizon unit is coming tomorrow and I will be using it for telework with an employer vpn. I saw in a prior video where you ran through changing settings. I want to use my own router and would love an in depth tutorial in adjusting the settings.

[@kaye1118]

how is the VZN 5g service for you?

[@tvmom]

@@kaye1118 it is excellent. Night and day compared to spectrum. I also have t mobile and I may have a better sight to their tower because it’s a little faster but they are both highly recommended.

[@kaye1118]

@@tvmom happy to hear! I'd be switching from Xfi. been with them since 2020. currently paying $90 for 600mbps + 120mbps boost (w/ rental fee & contract) so was wondering if it'd be worth for me to switch. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'd like to know what the price would be after those 2 and 3 year guarantees too... 🤔 also I'm a gamer so need fast and reliable speeds.

[@fayskelley]

It makes a huge difference which state you are in and where one is related to the towers. I’m in AZ. When T-Mobile took over Sprint (I was with Sprint 19 years) the company went down the ….. they shut off the magic boxes with no replacements. One had to have WIFi to use the new magic boxes. That’s inane. Why would I need a magic box if I had WIFi where I am? And, nasty customer service. Both on the phone and in the stores. I’ll be moving to Verizon. I had very poor customer service with Verizon in CT. But I’ve talked to many Verizon representatives here in AZ on phone and through messenger on FB and much more responsive and polite.

[@feitnaa]

boom diggity | thanks for the review Tater!

[@NaterTater]

You bet!

[@deborahharper3427]

I have been tried both we are now using the acradyan gateway we only pick up 4g signal 5g is 5 to 9 miles away t-mobile keeps saying they working on upgrading the towers watching TV someday just don't work I'm frustrated

[@MegaHugro]

So you confused me with the address workarounds with Verizon. My home address is coming up on their website as LTE is available. Are you saying I can manipulate my home address and receive the 5G speed at my home when LTE is only coming up available?

[@BrixtonBananas]

Great videos NT! I live in a rural patch here and I don't have hardline internet available to me. My question is, running T-Mobile (I currently have) and running Verizon 5g, do you find them competing against each other having 2 different ISPs in the same space?

[@NaterTater]

Thanks for watching. No issues with both active.

[@BrixtonBananas]

​@@NaterTater Thanks for the reply NT; one more question to piggy back off the "conflict" theme. I recall watching one of your videos mentioning to connect all devices to the router to give the gateway a break and avoid competition for signal; is that correct? Currently I have the Tmo Arcadyn gateway and using an orbi mesh router for the house; also having devices closest to the gateway connected to the gateway and other devices that don't see the gateway signal connected to the orbi. The reason I bring up the conflict you mentioned in one of your videos, I noticed when I am gaming at my PC (right next to the gateway and the router disbursing the signal) and someone else in the other part of the house (connected to the orbi *because the device can't see the gateway) watching youtube on a tv, it seems that all the bandwith is directed to the device using orbi rather than my pc which is right next to the gateway. Apologies for the longwinded comment. Cheers.

[@NaterTater]

@B 0 B the more wifi signals you have in one location the higher the chance for wireless interference so in general I suggest trying to have as few sources of different wifi signals as possible. But what you are talking about is more likely due to "Quality of Service" QoS (or lack thereof) that the tmobile gateway has. You'd likely get better multiple device concurrent performance sending all the traffic thru the Orbi with some level of QoS enabled.

[@BrixtonBananas]

@@NaterTater Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Grazie brotha.

[@PLATINUM2U]

I've been with tmobile 5g home internet. At first it was great then speeds got so slow I had to leave. Went to vz lte internet and couldn't be happier. Plus it's cheaper than tmo. Speeds are consistent and the reliability is phenomenal.

[@roachlembe8626]

Are you in a Ciry?I'm in San Antonio and Verizon only has LTE here. What speeds are you getting? Would it be able to handle 2 people gaming?

[@PLATINUM2U]

@@roachlembe8626 no I'm in the country. Nothing but sticks and woods. On my cell phone I get between 100mbps to 280 mbps. Lte internet gets between 23 mbps to 60. It's limited to 50mbps but it spikes past 150 but calms back down to the mid to low 60 mark. Once 5g home internet is available I will be upgrading

[@roachlembe8626]

@@PLATINUM2U oh ok. Thanks for replying.

[@tougakun]

Just depends on where you live.

[@biggc49042]

cheaper? tmo home internet is $30 for unlimited

[@lattermanstudio]

Excellent report…..

[@JMSynthetics]

There's ways to make the tmhi work great with using the trash can or the black tower.

[@lattermanstudio]

Zero Verizon where we live (yea…. Pretty unusual but true) T-Mobile has been a game changer out here….(so far 🥳…. The Arcadyan works a LOT better than the Nokia out here in the boonies … seems more sensitive and is a lot faster )

[@monique.thenurse55]

In about switching to T-Mobile home Internet service now presently. I do lots of streaming..I want purchase and test it out and see how it the speeds works..I want to get rid of my cable Internet service immediately thank you for this video was very informative.

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome. Typically this works great for streaming.

[@jcc2c22]

I've had T-mobile here in Central Virginia for over a year now and it just keeps getting better. I can stream a 4k movie now with no problem, no cap, I'm saving $120 a month over what I was paying Comcast and the speeds are much better too. Still only $50 a month.

[@NaterTater]

sweet

[@halbouma6720]

I have a t-mobile trash can, and while it works more than well enough for me to have no problems ditching my twice as expensive Comcast service, the device is more brain dead than the cable modems I had over 20 years ago. I don't know what T-Mobile was thinking when it made this device. Its so limited in what it can do other than just surf the web or watch netflix, etc. I'm also having problems with it using multiple IPs at the same time which make it impossible to log into any website that uses my IP as part of the security. I had to start using a VPN to get around this problem as well.

[@bobjones-bg3kb]

Right now Verizon only offers 4g lte. Is there a possibility I can get the 5g service at my house?

[@Ivansgarage]

Trying to figure out if I wanna keep the T-Mobile Nokia beer-can and spend the money to add antennas, i have two 5g towers north and east of me, was thinking of omni directional antenna.... right wrong stats.. signal strength -115 .. download 8.3 ... upload 1.6 what antenna would you recommend...

[@NaterTater]

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[@dlamb661]

Have both the Verizon 4glte cube and currently getting the trash can replaced with the arcade due to terrible drops and signal loss. Verizon is capped at 50mbps but never dips below low 40s and is extremely consistent. Though the tmobile does typically get faster speeds on tests, the frequent drops on the trash can will kill whatever app,video,or game im on and constantly needs reboots. (Hopefully the new router fixes this) but Verizon has been much better overall.

[@roncraft2042]

With any cell signal, the location is normally the deciding factor. Neither is inherently superior. Some places T-Mobile is king and in other places Verizon is king. If they are both good where you are, then decide for yourself which will best serve your needs. Personally, I have T-Mobile and I’m very happy. My home internet connection is to band n41. I have another T-Mobile hotspot that connects to n71. They default to each other so I never have a loss of service.

[@dig1035]

Thumbs up and subscribed!

[@tolust]

Hey Nate " tool man " Tater, I tape my finger on the LIKE button on all your videos ;)

[@bobla441]

I live a mile from the tower that has n71 and n41 but for the past 6 months only got 60/6. Last week I saw a crew at the site and asked what they were doing. They were decommissioning Sprint. Now my speed jumped to 500/ 600 down and 20/30 up. Any thoughts why this happened. Not complaining just curious

[@10super]

They likely modernized the tower

[@queendriver1]

I agree on many levels, however, between the two t-mobiles, the can was not very good where I'm at now even adding an ext antenna now for the arc it was great without an ext antenna a plus with an antenna however the latency/ping I was not able to bring up very well, it boils down to where you are located as for gaming depending on your cell tower location, time of day, etc, did excellent at my old address no issues period except the fact I had to add an ext ant because of the tin can I lived in, new address the can didn't work even with an ext. ant. went with the arc great by itself even better with an ext ant downfall could not add no more than 2-3 devices even adding the antenna ping/ latency is still a problem the fact that I like to game the can or the arc are fine really depends on your location a plus if you add an ext ant. Might I add one more thing it's a plus, plus if you can connect to a 5g antenna they are being updated where I'm at, there is one I can connect to but it's not strong enough for me to keep it because of my location and all the trees in my area. Unfortunately, I have to go with another source just because of my location the location of 5g towers, and not being able to get my external antenna high enough to reach and work as it should. It will cost me more but on a plus side adding my external will boost everything up to the level needed to game with no issues like ping//latency. Plus upgrading my antenna from a 2x2 to a 4x4 did do wonders (4x4 waveform) Thank you Nater you have helped me on a level no one else was willing I can do most things as long as I have someone willing to take time out to show and walk through each step, you were the one with your videos I was able to do just that. Thank you, Nater (YOU ROCK) Tater~tot.

[@pierregradner622]

Who really read all this 😮‍💨

[@elreggeaton1121]

@@pierregradner622 not me 😁

[@MrKsan05]

I'm pretty lucky i guess, i have a Verizon Tower about 150 yards from my house and get 5 bars. They almost never cut my speed too. The REALLY sad thing is I was on a wireless boradband for 7 years as I was told it was the only internet by my house except for Sat which i do not want, I've been only the list for Starlink for over a year. The wireless company moved out and dropped all service and it was SLOW, half the time you got no signal. Then as luck would have it my WONDERFUL neighbor introduced me to verizon MiFI and now I'm a VERY happy man.

[@MrANTBIG]

im in 29209 which one should i go for / i play multi games alot

[@MrSTreadaway]

Excellent report, per usual. Can you compare the wifi range between the Verizon and T-Mobile routers?

[@NaterTater]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX3KoGNqrqxphqs go to 7min 48 sec mark for wifi coverage comparison.

[@MrSTreadaway]

@@NaterTater Thanks again!

[@drummer4hire]

where do you buy that fan attachment for the trashcan?

[@NaterTater]

www.etsy.com/shop/DC3Dprojects

[@rod2625]

Considering the VZW 5g home service. Not clear what the actual connection from their device to my home router, Assuming hardwired. Does WiFi extenders continue to work?

[@NaterTater]

It would be ethernet from verizon to your personal router. If the network extender is setup/paired to your personal router then it will still work.

[@bernadettephillips8578]

Hi Nate, let me know if it would be possible to have a phone conversation. I’m messing around with a T-mobile gateway with external antennas one is a panel the other is directional by waveform and having some issues and would like to pick your brain. Thanks Paul

[@damonroger3184]

Would you be willing/able to make a video guide on how to use the DMZ feature to basically "bridge" another router? I just got the Verizon 5G home cube, But the range doesn't quite reach the entirety of my house. I'm thinking of buying a mesh router system to correct that.

[@NaterTater]

Yes

[@damonroger3184]

@@NaterTater Awesome! Thanks.

[@midimench]

Just ordered the T-mobile home internet after discovering that a new tower just went up 4 blocks from my house. I ran the speedtest app and got 577 Mbps on the download and 41 Mbps on the upload. I've been waiting for a reason to dump my $90/mo Spectrum bill, and I think I've found it. Do you also have a video showing how to connect their device to my Netgear Nighthawk?

[@D-OveRMinD]

I just watched your other more recent video on the Verizon cube showing a grand total of EIGHT external antenna ports on it, and then came to this video where you say it has NONE. Has something changed in the last few months? You say to get the ARC version and not the ASK version in that other video. Are you using the ASK version here and that's the difference?

[@NaterTater]

Exactly. The only cube available in the past (ie this video) was the ASK cube. They just recently added the ARC cube that has the antenna ports.

[@rickslife]

Hey Nate! On My Verizon white cube I turned off DHCP and got a dialogue box that says “Hello, Restful session error” any clue to what it means? The cube won’t connect to my router now.

[@NaterTater]

If you turn off DHCP on the gateway you have to manually assign a valid IP address to your personal router in it's settings.

[@ThomasEJohnson]

I’ve got the Arcadia gateway now and it is giving me way faster and more stable service than the trash can did.

[@SeanCotton]

That has been my experience as well with the Arcadia compared with the Nokia

[@NaterTater]

What bands did you have before and now?

[@SeanCotton]

@@NaterTater mostly had n71 with the Nokia and now mostly n41 with the Arcadia.

[@NaterTater]

@@SeanCotton interestings. So may have to do with which band the nokia was preferring. For me I get the same bands on either unit and when they are on the same bands the Arcadyan is slower. But I know many people have issues with the Nokia not staying on the best band.

[@ThomasEJohnson]

@@NaterTater I got B66 and N41 before. Now I’m getting B2 and N41.

[@kaye1118]

great video! I'm leaning towards Vzn because I need the speeds for a gamer. so my question is, what is the price after those 2 and 3 year guarantee? anyone know? T.i.A.

[@NaterTater]

Nobody knows. I doubt Verizon even has that figured out yet.

[@KevinMcfarland-tc1ik]

Rather then buy expensive cabling for modem instead you could put your modem itself in attic (or place modem near your antenna w/o extension cables), have Inseego bridged, then run cat wire to your home router? wouldn't there be less signal loss?

[@NaterTater]

You can but the modems dont hold up well in unconditioned space. Heat kills them.

[@77dwf]

Hey Nate, you help me before I have a question about the 5G T-Mobile and Verizon if I wanted to switch over from T-Mobile to Verizon what is speed that I’m looking for and they say 10/10 and soand do you think it’s beneficial to change over or do you think I should stay with Tmobile thanks so much for your advice appreciate it

[@NaterTater]

Hi Misty, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you looking to get Verizon 5G Home internet? If it shows available at your address you should get great speeds and I think you would be happy with it.

[@allendelgado3105]

Hi Nater so i signed up for the Verizon 5g home internet because it was available in my area... I was expecting the cube gateway but they sent me the gateway you mount on the window or wall... does that mean the cube wouldnt work in my area??? I was hoping not to install anything on the window or wall... is one gateway better the other... Thanks

[@NaterTater]

That means your address (according to Verizon) gets their mmWave service. Honestly that is better/much faster but yes typically the cube would also work but would likely be 3-5x slower (~300mbps vs 1-1.5Gbps). I'd say give the unit you have a try. You can rest it on its side on a table by a window and not window mount it to see if you can still get good signal.

[@craftyg2761]

I have Verizon 5g and it has been flawless. No idea about tmobile.

[@8raxton]

Hey Nate I’m trying to order Verizon Home Internet found a good “service address” and input my delivery address. When I get promoted for soft credit check they ask me to call in to Customer service. Any way around that ? Do I just tell them it’s for my service address but I want it deliver to home address before I “move” Thanks! External Aetna for T-Mobile didn’t improve my speeds :(

[@NaterTater]

Do you have a credit freezes? I do and got that message. I unfroze and it went thru. I wouldn't worry or make any statements about why delivery address different.

[@Briankobe]

If my neighborhood does not qualify for the Verizon 5G mmWave equipment, and somehow I manage to get one, will that make my internet speed better than just the regular 5G wireless gateway (the cube)?

[@NaterTater]

No, will make it worse. The window mount mmwave shown in this video cannot do "regular" 5G so if there's no mmwave it will revert to 4G.

[@JG90984]

Is the Verizon internet reliable and consistent for wireless cameras?

[@matthewholt9501]

Nate can you change the Nat type on the Verizon 5G 4G ?

[@NaterTater]

yes, it has a DMZ option. even behind my mesh system I get NAT type 2, moderate.

[@bcrosstx]

What is the download range that would support 4K on the mobile internet devices? Thanks

[@NaterTater]

25mbps is all your need for that.

[@ojtamayosr]

I recently signed up for T-Mobile service using the Nokia gateway and I get horribly inconsistent speeds, raging from 1 to about 80 Mbps. Some days I get by fine and some days I can't even load a social media page or a YT video. T-Mobile is sending me the new black gateway and I'm hoping I'll get better service with the new gateway. Wish me luck.

[@ojtamayosr]

@@_-Karl-_ All of the above. I may live in an area that's not quite ready for prime time.

[@teknerd]

This is a good wrap up video. I am happy with T-Mobile Nokia. It is very finicky as you said. It seems to get bogged down after a few days and restarting the modem from my cell phone app usually fixes the problem temporary. Sometimes I have to physically unplug, wait a few seconds and plug it in again. Inconsistant is definitely how I would categorize it. I haven't consider the external antenna because they seems a bit expensive for something I technically do not own. The modem belongs to T-Mobile. But if you could find less expensive external antennas, especially anything that is easily installable and removable, such a video would be very valuable information. I just don't want to invest a couple hundred of dollars just yet if I don't own the modem.

[@schoc13]

I had T Mobile for 5 days recently, worked beautifully along my xfninity till I disconnected then poor to weak signals and constant buffering, like 135 pings! xfinity 12 pings,

[@teknerd]

@@schoc13 5G won't replace cable for gaming. The latency is pretty bad with 5G when compared to broadband. But for streaming movies, it works pretty good as long as you have a strong and noise free connection. I am using it as a stop gap service until my town begins trenching fiber in my streets. But they don't expect completion until late 2023. You might want to look into Elon's Starlink Satellite Internet as another alternative. But the initial cost of the dish is a factor and whether you have a clear view of the skies. I think there is an app for your phone that can tell you if you do have clear skys for starlink

[@haydenespinosa3552]

@@teknerd my tmobile works amazing for games. I don't believe I've ever had a problem. I don't believe I've seen my ping go higher than 32ms. Maybe area effects it?

[@teknerd]

@@haydenespinosa3552 I literally live half a block from a new 5G tower. Also, make sure you aren't comparing loaded with unloaded ping times. Unloaded pings can be 15-35ms, loaded ping times can be 300ms

[@haydenespinosa3552]

@@teknerd Hmm... maybe you've got a defective router? There's no reason you should be having issues like that. I'm farther from my 5g tower than you are and I have 3 people streaming and 2 people playing COD, Apex, or Battlefield all at the same time. No issues at all. Never experience lag, no latency, consistent down and up. I never have an issue. And mine only gets 2 to 3 bars of signal. The app usually says weak signal. Also, I know the difference, yes. My ping has never been anywhere close to 300. Ever. With weak signal: 50- 80 mbps down, 25-30 up, max ping 45. Fair signal: 100-250 down, 70-80 up. Ping never goes above 30. Usually less. So, something must be going wrong with your router.

[@CarlosRodriguez-oz6qs]

Great Video ... Thank's

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome!

[@crazyhass84]

So what if I have tmobile with external antenna? Can that beat Verizon for both speed and consistency? Just got the new black tmobile device after my gray trash can crapped out. Deciding if I connect my external antenna to the black device or just switch to Verizon and never have to deal with external antenna....

[@NaterTater]

If you get 5G c-band coverage with verizon then it will likely be better than t-mobile. They call it 5G UWB on their coverage map . If you dont then its a crap shoot. May be better, may be worse.

[@the-papaw]

Do these things have sim cards hat can be taken out? If so, I'd like to try one in my cat 16 modem with outdoor 4x4 mimo setup

[@NaterTater]

Physically yes they do but they do IMEI lock them so you'd need the same IMEI to connect to the cell network.

[@the-papaw]

@@NaterTater Yes I can set the modem to match the the devices IMEA, the serial number, etc. As long as I can take out the sim and put it in my router. Thanks for the reply and your videos

[@alcazar-kinney]

Is there a way to turn off the wi-fi in the verizon cube so I only have my router's wi-fi on?

[@NaterTater]

Yes, I replied to your question on the video specific to just the verizon cube. Its covered in that video.

[@arbywest3722]

The phone plan shouldn't affect the internet speed, correct? You mentioned in your video about bundling but that's for price discount

[@NaterTater]

Correct

[@supersighlas]

My house is a rambler/ranch style that is all one floor and pretty long. About 2100 sq feet. Will this little cube cover the whole space??

[@NaterTater]

Yes

[@killowertz]

I have had T-Mobile for several months now and while it's fast enough, I've had drops several times and obviously the way they handle things I can't get local channels with streaming services. I am finally able to switch Verizon and was wondering if you get an actual IP address and such so getting local channels on streaming services would be possible again?

[@NaterTater]

Verizon has been better for that.

[@jessesasaki3191]

I just ordered Verizon 5G I tried to order 6 months ago and they said they didn’t cover that area but now the do 😁

[@kaye1118]

and how is the service for you?

[@jessesasaki3191]

@@kaye1118 it a little bit slower then tmobile but with less lag

[@rockeerockey6941]

Didn't quite catch the inference about the Verizon addresses swapping. Getting availability? Please explain

[@NaterTater]

The address that matters for availability is the service address. The shipping and billing can be different.

[@mddd222]

A question. I have both t mobile gateways. Which one am i better of with or neither? Not sure it's ready yet to compete with my cable company hardwire?

[@NaterTater]

Cable will likely win out unless you have exceptional 5G UC signal.

[@mddd222]

@@NaterTater thank you. What I was feeling. Not ready for prime time at my local

[@sprkymrt]

Thank you for the comparisons . I have been thinking about changing internet service and you have helped tremendously.

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome

[@alexanderrodriguez3837]

I have the Verizon 5g home with the c band one. And according to Verizon when I signed up I live right in the middle of a UwB area. And I have confirmed that I am less than 0.2 miles away from that 5g tower. Yet all I can get is like 50 60mbps. Despite having line of sight. They said they put in a ticket for the network engineers but it's been 2 weeks. And nothing. Very disappointing.

[@righteousone1]

Verizon's system is complicated. I live 8 minutes from O'hare airport and Verizon's home internet isn't even available in my area.

[@Kenster-man]

@@righteousone1 I’m in Chicago suburbia - fast 5G is available most places but not 5G Home Internet and sometimes that’s because they are controlling access - to limit any capacity/congestion issues. Verizon needs more C-Band spectrum/capacity - which they will get their hands on more of it later this year and next year.

[@righteousone1]

@@Kenster-man I have had T-Mobile home internet for 5 months now and it's been consistent. I was stuck with Comcast for years dealing with their high prices and data limits. I'm just glad I finally got the opportunity to dump Comcast lol. I've never liked Verizon and especially Att because they've always been overpriced.

[@MisterWhatWhat]

Currently testing TMHI for personal use here in OKC and we get speeds anywhere from 300-600Mbps down. It has been very reliable. Just not ready to fully trust TMHI so we’re giving it one more month, cannot wait to ditch Cox soon!

[@aod_fan]

I'm right there with you, I'm in Tulsa and have Gigablast with unlimited data and I've been paying $157, next month it goes up to $169. So, I'm looking hard at this.

[@Classy_Car]

Fellow Oklahoman here. I live pretty close to Coalgate and it's very rural (under 3k pop) and I get awesome speeds with T-Mobile in general here. The verizon coverage map says I don't even get 4G here LOL. The ATT coverage map barley supports me and I've had ATT data before on my phone and it's pretty bad. My mom had US Cellular back in 2016-2017 and it was pretty amazing. It could load 720p 60fps KZbin videos pretty quickly. (720p was the max the screen could do) Pretty much every other option besides T-Mobile has been junk here but with T-Mobile Home Internet, I'm on the very edge of an Ultra capacity blob through a tree so if i jam my poor arcadyan router into our den window, i can get pretty good N41 speeds and stats! I average 120-150mbps download speed with 3-5mbps upload speed on a normal day, but this past week, I've had better speeds 150 - 180mbps download speed on average!

[@scottricci7154]

Are all these pros and cons you listed tested with you external antenna?

[@NaterTater]

In general they apply with or without external antennas. Not sure which pro/con you are referring to though.

[@mashaperel605]

hello friend, great video, thank you! I just had the t mobile (newer model with the display in the front...) for couple weeks now. at the beginning, it was great speeds around 300 mbps, very quick. after about a week the connection to the internet started to drop without any reason, few times a day, every day. with very good reception to the device... after searching the web I found that this is very common with this device, unfortunately. so I decided to return it, sadly. do you have/had any experience of internet just dropping from this device as well, where you able to figure it out? and does the Verizon acting up as well? thank you.

[@NaterTater]

I have not had the internet dropping issue some of reported. Verizon overall is much more consistent and stable for me but that will vary based on your local signal.

[@mashaperel605]

@@NaterTater thank you for your time and answer.

[@smc1377]

Fastest my TMHI has tested is about 600 down and 120 up. Average is 300 down, 80 up. I've had this service for 3 months now, sounds like I'm an outlier in terms of test results. I have the new style rectangular gateway, at 4 out of 5 bars, near a window opposite of where the app told me to put it.

[@NaterTater]

great speeds!

[@xyzxyz7042]

Only problem at my location, Verizon says service not available for 5g or LTE home internet. T-Mobile is available here, so it's the only choice for internet. No dsl or cable available here. T-mobile trashcan or microwave internet link with 30ft tower.

[@johntcantrell]

Can you take the SIM out of any of these and put them in a router that can take SIM cards?

[@NaterTater]

It's a gray area. The verizon 5g allows it partly due to their c-band agreement with the FCC. T-mobile is more restrictive and are said to IMEI lock the sim but some have switched modems even without IMEI change.

[@scotts.7662]

Hi NT, So Is your verizon tower closer than your T-Mo tower? are they the same tower?

[@scotts.7662]

I'm locked into T-Mo, is the closest,

[@NaterTater]

Same tower for me

[@CBL138]

Nice vid. Can the Verizon 5G be taken on the road away from the service location? Looking for a good unlimited internet for my RV. Thanks.

[@NaterTater]

If you ask Verizon the answer is no. However the unit works anywhere there is signal.

[@CBL138]

@@NaterTater I heard T-Mobile also works but watching your video it sounds like it sucks. Thank you much!