JUST WHY!? (VISIONSHAPER REWORK) | Deepwoken

[@TheRealPunchee]

IS IT OVER....? My Discord Server: discord.com/invite/n7552V4

[@sssaaaiiikkkuuu]

Yes it may be over

[@berserkenjoyer874]

Its so over bro

[@MystSomething]

its over

[@Minizu4]

Illusionary Realm my beloved...

[@Minh2438]

This is the real power of the uchiha clan

[@shayde3428]

Removing realm hurts ngl, it was a really efficient counter to jetstrker or people trying to void/popping bell in depths.

[@SorenReal]

we all know inu just gave yall sum to complain about ive been in tons of depths ganks and that has never happened

[@LamentationsOfTheSoul]

​@@SorenRealcold 🥶

[@GiveCloneRiggyARaiseCuz]

@@SorenReal Never cook again🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@woundead3232]

@@GiveCloneRiggyARaiseCuzIts true, ive been to 647 depths ganks (we count each gank) and ive only ever seen realm twice. If inu didnt use it, nobody would be mentioning this.

[@supermagoo]

THANK YOU!!! I legit made VS to counter these ass running builds. THANKS TO THIS IM FINALLY DONE WITH THE GAME

[@kirpal4647]

took you long enough update boy, never let this happen again baby bro.

[@piugrandari]

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[@__recon3047]

“Chop chop movie boy” ahh comment

[@DboyCooler]

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[@OrinLett]

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[@muckyesyesindisguise3854]

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[@Mikqel]

This visionshaper rework makes the Aizen build even more accurate. Next step is making all the espadas in deepwoken, starting with #4. Ulquiorra Cifer.

[@sm5t-x9u]

< Wukong build

[@PowerAids]

Why number 4 ?

[@theamazingsquidfr]

​@@sm5t-x9u🚨WUKONG DRONE SPOTTED🚨

[@ValeriePersonalReal]

Comically large shadow gun with a bloodless on every mantra and a vampirism katana

[@nahsir428]

@@ValeriePersonalRealL build

[@LevietheDaystar]

It really just feel like they made visionshaper into a puppeteer oath

[@pegasusrr3156]

Bc it kinda is

[@Haru-b8s]

it is, visionshaper is more a Clone Trick than Summoning a domain

[@iamayumpig]

it fits better as the illusion oath compared to before tbh

[@naorysm]

honestly visionshaper now feels like what Contractor should have been.. imagine if the clones you're controlling had strings attached to them

[@T_T1357]

@@naorysm nah contractor is YOURE being puppeteered, not puppeteering

[@funnygiggle229]

its an illusion oath but the ability is more like a puppet oath??? its a nice moveset but it doesnt really fit the concept of reality shifting abilities imo

[@pigit7526]

How come? Does making your opponenet fight themselves and teleporting with your clones not fit?

[@youtubearmy_bg8265]

@@pigit7526 it could actually use yknow illusions look at the type soul illusion ability for example its way better (even tho i dont like that game)

[@DescoNLM]

​@@pigit7526spawning clones and mimicing ability that actually do damage isnt related to illusions and fooling your opponent, it acts more like copying with puppetry which doesnt make that much sense

[@v4rrich]

@@funnygiggle229 new Visionshaper is like a Mirage from Apex legends, where your job is to trick the opponent and fight your clone instead of you, so it's fine

[@gokusan4776]

I so agree to that, just call it mind splitter at this rate. Would fit the clones sync attacks

[@jjdc4864]

Me watching the four eclipse kicks hitting me at once. (In deepwoken it’s about skill vs skill not power vs power)

[@berserkenjoyer874]

Someone didnt like the new rework

[@mat6tehpokemon946]

inu really doesnt like it as well

[@bomubomuisgoated]

@@mat6tehpokemon946no one mentioned inu

[@King_Nothing69]

@@bomubomuisgoated you are a depths ganker? Otherwise why the hell are you beefing with someone for mentioning inu?

[@skeleman6088]

Who is inu?

[@King_Nothing69]

@@skeleman6088 KZbinr

[@anitoongaming5554]

Removing Realm is honestly a mistake like now are we gonna prevent runners?

[@supermagoo]

PLEASE PIN THIS COMMENT😭😭😭

[@studiobaguette7781]

Nobody was playing visiol shaper

[@pegasusrr3156]

By chasing them

[@mistermarcus1428]

​@@pegasusrr3156voiding:

[@anitoongaming5554]

@@pegasusrr3156 Ah yes lemme try chasing a Jetstriker in depths

[@nothing8559]

Actually the clones still chases your enemies, idk why its like that in deluvian but when i played in chime the clones were definitely chasing my opponent.

[@pearcezseder3639]

Yeah they do that for me too, idk how to make them do the move I marked above their head

[@krispy7180]

@@pearcezseder3639 use reality shift, or if its a crit you have to use the crit

[@thiraphutklinmai9848]

First light is going to be crazy with this new change.

[@thesentientbox8682]

This is a shame because I always saw visionshaper as a antithesis of the blindseer. Blindseers get accustomed to the madness and fight against it, they train themselves to fight the horrors of this world. While visionshapers give up and EMBRACE that madness, their whole thing is to make people see the horrors of deepwoken by messing with peoples heads. Idk it doesn't look bad but it doesn't FEEL like what its supposed to represent lorewise.

[@lynx334]

Devs got mad they couldn't run bc of realm, it's like that spit poll where they wanted to remove spit heal because it clutches, they def lost to that too

[@Astro_Esque]

Same thing with bullet M1's

[@shiny_edin]

"It's time for this weeks *giant* deepwoken update" Punchee is in denial, nothing "giant" about this.

[@pokohoko9575]

At least he’s getting compensated for shilling. These bootlickers in the comments are something else.

[@doodles3114]

So we went from shadow clones from Naruto... to decoys from rainbow six... and ability storing takes your mantra from you, putting it into a clone that dies in a few hits.... yikes.

[@swordlegend3256]

it shoud dispel the attack once it dies

[@thebrownsnoutman9970]

why does everyone complain old visionshaper was horribly made except for realm ig for depths ganking

[@gokusan4776]

@@thebrownsnoutman9970at least it was better than that slop

[@Intruder02]

​Ofc it was old vshaper was literally brainless 💀 @@gokusan4776

[@doodles3114]

@@thebrownsnoutman9970 It wasnt even that bad, the clone died to a few hits and you could always tell which was real by how they moved. You have a lot more to worry about depths ganking wise than an OG visionshaper (cough cough, dawnwalker, which is also easy to parry, cough)

[@Koolmeesavontuur]

It might not be saintsworth but i see a lot of potential for a flandre scarlet build. Just spawn clones and BOOM Taboo: four of a kind.

[@swavii4337]

This is playing Puppeter, not playing Illusions and... Y'know, VISIONSHAPING. The whole point of og V.Shaper was "I'll make you look like a schitzophrenic while you fight me, now run hands". Now it's "My Gang beatdown is on mobile delivery". Let me make it clear: THIS IS COOL AS HELL, THIS IS SUCH A COOL ADDITION. But it's not worth. I like visionshaper cause I got to fight with a clone, now Its literally fighting FOR a clone.

[@MeafomDev]

Call me braindead or anything but I really dislike this rework. The oath was supposed to shape reality, do massive visual hallucinations and stuff, just by it's lore, and now it's just more clone spamming nerdy oath. It both looks ugly and seems really bad in practice.

[@SkayliesClips]

🍎While the visionshaper rework definitely is cool, it doesnt aid with the lack of apple variety we have in the game🍎

[@RainyAfterThoughts]

Nightwish has been my all time favorite band since my literal birth seeing it appear in deepwoken genuinely had me jumping and screaming with a smile on my face

[@efree177]

2:56 vid starts here

[@MayonnaiseSucks]

Real.

[@vesel8398]

the hell is up with them? first they take the silent out of silenthearts, now they take the quality visionshaping out of visionshapers?

[@skyleap2191]

This visionshaper change may force me to remake an entire build as I don’t like most of my gameplay having to revolve around managing my puppets for optimal usage. I will admit it is more technical but I really preferred the old visionshaper.

[@cocoaducky]

Okay, I genuinely like it, but what I don't like is that they removed the domain, that's like a big no, that was visionshaper's thing, they basically just removed visionshaper and added a new oath.

[@nemuiexe]

visionshaper doesn't have domain before though

[@Dawooga_real]

@@nemuiexe it did, just way different. You went into a separate place in the voidsea and if the visionshaper pressed X they could just leave and spawn a deep monster for you to fight instead. (like a squibbo for example.)

[@rocelyt7355]

same way they made a oath about stopping the song into a weapon master oath nobody was asking for this...

[@sandunderman_is_taken_damnit]

@@Dawooga_real damn vision shaper used to be that cool

[@Aæāěëæâ-yeat]

Nice update but removing domain is a big no to a lot of players like inu and a few of my friends (even me but ion depths gank)

[@him23429]

I hate complaining about these updates because I can somewhat atleast see the devs mindset when making this stuff, but WTF bro.. I’ve been testing it and it’s so bad now, they removed the coolest part of the oath, the realm, that countered a runner playstyle and the clones are pretty ass now ngl, they don’t attack enemies or do ANYTHING at close range, they die in 3 hits ( and still dispel whenever you get hit once.) and are only used for the single time you use reality shift the moment you summon them from my knowledge And now they function as like a way to attack the enemy from far away? They only copy your m1s and actually engage in combat when the enemy is far away from you, otherwise they will just hug you and do nothing if the enemy is actually close to you, and if the devs intended for you to fight the enemy at long range with a clone that just straight up doesn’t work, if you are laggy in the slightest then the clones moves will delay behind your own and result in either the clone being absolutely destroyed or the enemy just being smart and going to get a single hit on you to dispel the useless clone EDIT: I’ve been testing further and it looks like they DO attack at close range, but they barely do, they only attack at close range if you haven’t parried in a while since if you m1 after a parry they will just do nothing, effectively making them useless at close range still.

[@PanmasterAtArms]

The combat tag change was needed for a long time now. If one of your allies is a flamecharm user with the Immolator talents it got annoying real fast getting PVP tagged because they dared to hit an enemy that you were near, voiding your HP recovery entirely(And taking Controlled Combustion is not worth the effort).

[@forthelolz1121]

Honestly I’m not too mad about this rework. What I would like to see however is maybe adding an ability similar to one of the very first visionshaper, that being the ability to spawn in monsters. My idea is this: The last enemy you killed will be spawned by using Reality Shift with no clones spawned. This can be almost anything, ranging from your basic bandit to even the mighty deep widow. The only things that can’t be “stored” are bosses (Duke, Ferryman, etc.) and players. The control of certain monsters may also vary. For example, you will have full control over Squibbo’s M1’s due to the similarities that he has to players, but more rigid monsters such as Sharko or the Owl will do basic attacks on their own. Despite this, you still have command over more special moves. Your critical attack will do a more powerful move of the monster and pressing Reality Shift will do a special move, but this will despawn the monster. Finally, spawning in a clone will result in the monster clone disappearing after around 5 seconds. It should also be said that you will need to kill an enemy again to spawn in a monster clone once more.

[@zeroplays2382]

Linkstrider be like: "We finally got some love for another oath... For some reason, ever since it's release, this oath never had any"

[@neztech.]

all linkstrider needed was the x keybind for links and now we have that so why are we still complaining

[@zeroplays2382]

@@neztech. Because it's still mid and forgotten. When was the last time you saw an Linkstrider?

[@neztech.]

@@zeroplays2382 it's just not mid not sure where you got that idea my overworld build is a linkstrider that abuses ragdoll to use sustain for free. so i think i'd know how versatile linkstrider can be if utilized correctly. realistically the frequency of an oath doesnt directly correlate to it being "bad" or "good" it just means it isn't popular

[@zeroplays2382]

@@neztech. By overworld you mean the build you use to Hunt people, the chime of conflict one or the pve?

[@NavaenBisque]

This rework is almost as good as Navae finding the nomads and giving them the Navaen nomad origin

[@Heres_another]

As on elf the 3 linkstrider mains I am indeed mad visionshaper got a rework instead of linkstrider

[@shremp69]

They still haven't made weapon swapping on SH more consistent 😭😭😭😭

[@lukasmarek3424]

They should make an aoth where you use your INSTRUMENT as a wepon.

[@theintromaker4260]

I just imagined bonking your enemy with the instrument lol

[@Zawaito]

They should just change one thing Instead of them running in place, they should be static, and always be looking towards the enemy to creep them out

[@hermytouille6952]

Remember when you could spawn depth monsters with realm ?

[@ramitheus]

Chaser speedruns ARENT DEAD LETS GOOOO

[@hatirase2255]

I swear the devs are in my walls, my internet stopped working at the start of September and look at what they're releasing now!

[@sandunderman_is_taken_damnit]

I wiped my starkindred a few hours before the new talent

[@Pappalardium]

So now we're Aelita

[@cheetahguns8430]

visionshaper rework BEFORE linkstrider, you have to be kidding me

[@Kofhiliphus]

Close enough, welcome back, confusion shikai from type soul.

[@tristanfarmer9031]

Man, they removed the domain! Neat rework, but now I gotta get a different one.

[@Gabriel-02]

Personally this is a huge update for me Always felt like dw lacked complexity but this adds some

[@Grealyvepog]

Bro wth is this visionshaper rework i was actually hyped up thinking the rework will be actually good😭

[@OzzyTheCat2419]

Went from cheese to even more cheese. Can’t wait for the visionshaper crystal eruption path hybrid builds to just spam more mantras than I can see.

[@supermagoo]

No joke.. This is going to ruin the fkn game. What makes it worse is that fire is the devil favorite element, so they love the spamming shit. Gj deepwoken. That was my last straw

[@MichaelHawk5638]

How is visionshaper cheesy?

[@OzzyTheCat2419]

@@MichaelHawk5638 Contradictory comment.

[@flappyflap2693]

ice eruption into 3 bolt piercers

[@hoovy9300]

Ugh, so they removed the sick domain and made it a sweaty chess oath. Just give me back mirage of the deep dude.

[@kairo_9512]

Stop crying 😹😹 It made it go from cheese not fun to fight to an Oath that requires good placing, combat IQ and creativity to make use of. Also Mirage of the Deep was trash, it was just used to stall your enemy in the domain while you run away in the reality.

[@shai2222]

​​@@kairo_9512 my nigga said combat iq gtfo😂😂

[@Late-Gaming]

deepwoken players when it isn't just spamming numbers 😭

[@secon4050]

@@kairo_9512 btw clones get one shot so basically visionshaper is gutted

[@osiera]

Dude they can literally parry now ​@secon4050

[@x6clown]

"giant update" how much do they pay you to shill the weekly slop?

[@AnatomyWork]

Idk man maybe the moderator of the game would hype up an update??

[@x6clown]

@@AnatomyWork if only the devs would make content that's actually worth hyping up

[@muki5973]

The update is good what? how is it slop when there's a lot of new content.

[@x6clown]

@@muki5973 the rework is mid the new and star kindred talent is cool but that's literally all there is

[@youtubeisdead1858]

@@x6clown ah yes everyone must share the same opinions as you

[@Tsbrumati]

I really wished they'd have leaned more into illusory realm customization instead of the boring ass clones.

[@Abdul-sw4tn]

Anddd its all over the screen

[@DboyCooler]

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[@lilcrabbyboi3075]

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[@sirenith6750]

💀

[@Varmkorven10k]

Cleanup in isle my pants 🤭🤭🤭🤗🤗

[@froggymasterog]

Well, guess I may as well stop progressing my Gojo build then, since he can no longer do domain expansion

[@Zawaito]

The one buff silentheart need didn come. They should give X parry frames. Like, you should be able to parry while swapping to encourage swapping.

[@RavenousCucumber]

I think there's plenty of initiative to switch weapons as it is

[@Zawaito]

@@RavenousCucumber just look up some videos of people playing the new silentheart. They hardly ever switch because doing so either means taking hits or backing off. In either way it breaks the loop and also kills any combo potential that was intended with the rework Its more so that the risk outweigh the reward. And now that cooldown for the special moves has been lowered, we have even less of an incentive to use the gimmick

[@ragegamer123]

the new build is hella fun, but if there was old realm along with it, it would be so much cooler

[@sukab8221]

nightwish is a pretty well known band in finland

[@LLG-Lavi]

They're pretty well known in the metal scene as one of the bigger symphonic metal bands

[@ORCH]

DAMN IT NOOOO WHYYYYYY WHHYYYYY MY BEAUTIFUL BABYYY WHYYY

[@MERT_OFFICIL]

Put the fries in the bag, we got visionshaper tech before conquest

[@pigit7526]

NOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME OH THE MISERY bruh

[@teddy8807]

​@@pigit7526Bro this is even more autopilot than the old visionshaper, idk what you mean I just wanted them to keep realm and nerf the current clones of the new rework, but now it's just really boring and really unfun to fight

[@ORCH]

@@pigit7526 lol

[@elijahdrotts1025]

Remove auto aim and teleporting from mantras. It’d be way cooler if the enemy actually had to run over. I’ve always been under the impression that clones are meant to be a way of confusing your opponent to not know which one is the real you. I wanna be able to utilize them in that way. But with clones just teleporting to the player after clicking the move it feels less organic. More just combo based. Just my opinion. But W update overall

[@n3ilyne1_]

As a visionshaper main this rework is terrible the clones doesn’t move and realm is gone

[@randomboijustsiting]

Cant wait to do "You want these clones to use mantras or not?" Madara cutscene

[@pinkytoowoke]

I been waiting for this video 😮😮

[@nikapanda160]

If silenthearts lose mani katti then visioshapers gonna have to say goodbye to illusion realm too

[@theamazingsquidfr]

next they're gonna remove radiant kick from dawnwalker 😭

[@randomfre]

mani katti was a shitty move anyway, illusion realm was good

[@bucket8849]

​@@randomfremani kati did 2 bars before and it wasnt pvp only

[@interobert2867]

@@bucket8849 you have to be blind and deaf to be hit by a full mani katti

[@bucket8849]

@@interobert2867 it catches dodges and even the non full does a bar, silentheart wasnt meant for pvp anw

[@АлексейПроскурин-с2ь]

bruh why they keep reworking good oaths, visionshaper and silentheart was popular in builds. there still USELESS linkstrider😭

[@Konata_Kon]

Meh. I'd really not call this a "giant" update. They still have a lot of content that people are waiting for (ahemz, PVE content, layer 3, conquest???)

[@jesusflicker2196]

I feel like they should of made the realm to be like where you can summon up to 4 clones with reduced cooldowns on illusionary servant. Also the new version of the oath now has pretty good PvE potential against bosses like chaser

[@chappooo3641]

I mean the siletheart rework was just trash, fully just ignores the lore and it’s designed purpose. All magic spammers just mad it countered them. Every build should have a counter every oath should have a counter, it’s how you make a balanced game

[@copperswordsman521]

Not at all how you make a balanced game, a perfectly balanced game allows everyone to counter everything when playing properly. Using prenerf silentheart as an argument for balance is crazy though.

[@chappooo3641]

@@copperswordsman521 yeah that’s what I mean, but some stuff in deepwoken is so op it has zero counter unless your super trash at the game. But some builds and spells are just op no matter what

[@samdozmeme420]

Every single update I swear Punchee says “It’s punchin tiiiiiime…” Slightly longer

[@shoerific]

Who asked for this bro Visionshaper wasn’t even bad you just made it infinitely more annoying, I wanna play PVP Sekiro, not Chess with parrying

[@Grealyvepog]

visionshaper gets gutted every instance the devs can bro its joever

[@thebruh5745]

Wasn't bad? Your clones had a bandit ai and died in one hit, your counter didn't have hit stun and the only somewhat good mantra was the realm Which is pretty useless in chime (unless both of you get REALLY low)

[@pantommy]

This is an amazing contractor rework, idk what you're saying.

[@treetrio6029]

@@pantommy Nah this comment is foul 😭😭

[@pokohoko9575]

@thebruh5745 You forgot that bandits are more skilled than the average player 😹

[@Decaying_bacon]

man, thank god we dont have any more counter play for runners. who knows what they would have done if they were forced to stay on the floor for 3 seconds

[@adamek8316]

my fav deepwoken brainrot ytuber posted

[@William_Reader]

illusionary realm was the only reason visionshaper was cool and they removed it.

[@braedenmu5380]

Feels like I’m playing Zato-1. Honestly really fun but damn is it gonna take forever to learn

[@Gnarlydiamond6]

I can finally make a WhiteSnake build and it be 2/3rds accurate

[@king_tasukete3099]

So basically has nothing to do with illusions.. again

[@PlayGames-op9ez]

Love you as akways fresh news

[@Chrisonix_la_furra]

the oath was perfect, it was ruined

[@marce4092]

this visionshaper rework looks a lot more clunky and unfinished, specially cause the clones stand completely still.

[@urumashun15]

Double shadow vortex gonna go CRAZY

[@JPgonsalves1]

I think its nice visionshapper getting a rework, It was so flawed cuz it was a verse 1 oath and it was getting pretty outdated and outplayed by anything else

[@supermagoo]

I legit made Visionshaper to counter these ass jet striker running builds. THANKS TO THIS IM FINALLY DONE WITH THE GAME

[@v4rrich]

Why do clones not mimic your movement too? Just why are they standing still, this looks so wrong

[@baz5367]

wahoo we can do dante build from limbus company!! (no more saving urself from death and no more anti jetstrikers sadly)

[@legendary__tea9924]

It's a shame that we lost the territory of the visionshaper

[@flameskull8860]

it's sadly not "vision"shaper anymore, just clone oath

[@j-zempai1944]

They should get the domain back sense the clones don’t track everyone will just run

[@epRivera]

Tbh I really like the rework overall, but the domain could've stayed 😢

[@JIorsmth]

Heavenly/ any lock on mantra will go crazy

[@tinpotmst]

WE LOST REALM FOR THIS??

[@Kafei06]

I'm NOT coming back to deep for this

[@kamuix9932]

I hope they slightly debuff the stuff they add,Then add mani kattti+ dmg buff for silentheart😭

[@CJ-won]

7:08 float like a moth🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheStarlessUmbra]

punchee pronouncing mimi-cry as mimicree hurts my soul as a red mist fan

[@astro6940]

Surround your enemy with clones and have the biggest shadow gun you can even get and let them all rip at your enemy

[@carterholifield7249]

Just know this gonna be another fire video

[@wave4727]

hop off his meat

[@Menpthistl]

bro... in the good hands this will destroy

[@Purplish4474]

X for ironsinger and X to swap with clones means that you will pull your opponent and then since you switch your clone the clone would be pulling the enemy to them (i tryed to make it sound actually understandable but BRUH)

[@disciple_of_brainrot]

Or you can also change the keybinds..?

[@Purplish4474]

@@disciple_of_brainrot keep it it's good

[@pegasusrr3156]

Change the bind

[@Purplish4474]

Don't change the bind because it's good

[@pegasusrr3156]

@@Purplish4474 change it to alt

[@Tron1980s]

this is gonna be so hard to play that its complete trash for 99% of users

[@DenDen-fv8bf]

DEVS! UPDATE LINKSTRIDER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jaggyd2862]

This seems fun but I really hoped they would've done a monster route instead im kinda disappointed they went anime slop route

[@Probably_Mason]

what does this have to do with the owl hivemind anymore

[@damianluca7548]

i have been waiting for this vid only to understand the new vishionshaper

[@bitnn4703]

Punchee do you just have hours upon hours of endless footage of all of your characters doing random emotes?

[@avanthiem]

cant wait to be comboed by 3 clones simultaneously in sync

[@rednessgod5729]

They should change the name Of “cheap trick” to “dirty deed”.

[@Noax0334]

its basicly just the peroxide aizen shekai