2012 Honda Civic EX-L One Year Review, Exhaust, Test Drive

[@michaelpadilla141]

You guys ding the economy mode for making the car slower, when fuel efficiency is the whole point of that feature. Silly criticism...

[@AznSensAsians]

its so annoying how everyone just goes on and on about "omg its so slow, it feels like it cant do anything"....its a honda civic give me a break. you're not reviewing the SI. and yes you do acknowledge that it is a commuter car, but cmon a buyer shouldnt be looking at this car if they want to have fun and go fast so its really annoying to keep hearing everyone linger on the "slowness" when obviously its not going to be a speedster

[@AlhassanYauri]

Absolutely

[@sirot5561]

These cars aren't that bad. People just complained too much. It's a good A to B and commuter car and very reliable which gives you much more piece of mind

[@alex_rodriguez777]

Tommy Siro You're buying a commuter car, not a Tesla, not sure why people like to complain so much. You have the necessities, what more do you want?

[@sirot5561]

***** exactly....thats what I was saying

[@styleomatic]

My experience with this car has been poor. Transmission is a POS.

[@richl1319]

styleomatic really I was considering buying one

[@styleomatic]

Richard Lopez Good luck, you'll need it.

[@redfirefox3568]

I'd never buy a Ford Focus over a 2012 civic if I plan on keeping my next car for 20 years. What are you smoking dude?

[@MrHuck]

Sebastian Kucinski Everyone I know with a Focus has issues. My friend pronounces it Fucus. Lol.

[@sarahclaxton1792]

I agree! Fords suck and I would never ever buy one unless I have to.

[@juliorubalcava95]

Hell no how you going to compare hondas to Ford's hondas are way better

[@kachiquitaito3341]

@@juliorubalcava95 2012 Honda Civic is trash I bought one new bad paint, steering wheel wore out before 25,000 miles(they don't even sell original covers to protect the steering wheel., I also I see many customers have problems with the alternator volts regulator and I did too. Before I bought only Honda but after my 2012 Honda Civic I been buying Toyota for now.

[@ShadowTheNinjaKitty]

Kachiqui Taito That is all anecdotal experience. If you look at the statistics as a whole you’ll see that Civics hold up just fine

[@icantw8]

I honestly like the '12 as much as the '13. I guess it might be cuz I'm not an enthusiast but in the end, Civic is a very good car and they tend to be the resale value leader in the segment.

[@rocktime431]

When I barely saw this car for the first time, I didn't think it was as nice or stylish as the previous generation, but now every time I see the 2012 Civic, I think it looks more fresh than the previous gen.It really grew on me. Has this also happened to any of you guys?

[@lennyrod85]

I love my 2012 Honda Civic, it has 150k miles and it runs great i'm happy!

[@stevenpalma2357]

You had any issues with the car?

[@Narfrezy]

styleomatic CVT is a pos **

[@jonnytorch-er5ig]

Damn. I only have 66,000 miles. lol

[@jeanlenor1858]

@@stevenpalma2357 no

[@robertcoleman7556]

Me 2

[@vcertytroppp8670]

Say what you will but most of these Honda's will still be on the road long after most Focus's are in the junkyard. Other cars might have more bells and whistles but how many Fords do you see with 300+ K's still on the road compared to the Honda's that are still out there. End of story.

[@eriks8382]

Period. Done. Finish. End of story.

[@ThisWangsChung]

Meanwhile, my religiously maintained 2012 EX-L has been nothing but trouble, it feels like 2nd gear is going to grenade any moment now. If I knew this car would start falling apart at the 100,000 mile mark, I would have bought a Hyundai Elantra, or even a Ford Focus with the SelectShit transmission.

[@T769-r8s]

@@ThisWangsChung hey man what problems did you have with ur 2012 ex-l. I just bought one and I see mostly positive stuff online, ur comment has me worried. Mines at 110000 km. Not sure how many miles that's is lol

[@ThisWangsChung]

@@T769-r8s mainly, the transmission had metal shavings in the fluid at just over 100000 miles (160000 km) meaning it was ready to blow soon. I also think there was a problem with the exhaust, and the paint was chipping well before 100k miles. It was frustrating since all the little things were beautifully intact. I'd say to. keep up on the automatic transmission fluid changes every 30k miles/50k km, and make sure it's Honda DW-1 fluid! The wrong AT fluid *WILL* grenade the automatic transmission. If you have a manual, though, that thing will probably be bombproof

[@T769-r8s]

@@ThisWangsChung I see. Thanks for the tips, ill definitely follow through

[@temp88d50]

I love the Econ button it gives a more smooth ride in city and easier to perform hypermiling. It really save more fuel if you knows how to drive it.

[@AdrianAxl]

Does the car get you from point A to B in once piece? I'll be fine.

[@SizzlingBurat]

still got my 12 civic lx and no problems on engine and trans. always maintain it and it will last.

[@himynameisbrianw]

12 Civic Ex same here i love it

[@theredline]

That is exactly why we do these review, we want to educate the majority of car shoppers who don't follow the automotive world and who are just simply trading in their 10 year old vehicle for the same name brand without researching or checking out the competition first.

[@cward1890]

Bought an EX L 3 years ago with 25k on it. I’m at 90k now and it runs like a top. These are the engines to get before Honda screwed up with the GDI. This is also the non CVT auto transmission. This car will be sought after.

[@andresroman5816]

I have a 2012 Civic EX coupe , it has the the same features expect leather and heated seats and I love it. I got it as used car in September 2017 with 41000 miles on it and i can say honestly it’s the best car I could’ve gotten. I love the Bluetooth feature especially for when I’m driving places. Only complain I have is I wish they would’ve included backup camera with it because my dads 2013 Civic lx has it and mines the higher trim vehicle yet it doesn’t contain it. Other than that it’s super fast for when I get on the highway and the mpg is fantastic. I fill up my car every three weeks and it saves me so much money

[@Corvette1658]

Well someone from my work Emily. She has a 2012 Honda Civic EX she just got it back in May. She sold her old 1997 Honda Accord EX. And she got a 2012 Honda Civic EX she loves it and it's very good car for her!

[@LASGProductionz]

I upgraded the suspension, added strut bars, tie bars, downpipe, axleback, intake, and wheels/tires. My 2012 civic EX coupe feels great, runs great, and is super reliable. The upgrades made the car more fun and I feel it respond better now. Only thing I would change if you don’t want the upgrades is the battery since they tend to die fast idk why.

[@himynameisbrianw]

nice, im lookin to do coilovers, wheels upgrade also

[@ra.dawkins1441]

Nice. where u got the downpipe to purchased?

[@LASGProductionz]

@@ra.dawkins1441 that was 4 years ago aha it was a dc sports downpipe, car is stock now

[@seattlejdmcivic]

I know you said the other comment that your car is stock now so my mom has the same car silver she has the 2012 EXL and she got every option on it so essentially it has the SI spoiler has the wheels like the one in the video the SI front bumper rear bumper we just put an SI grill on change the front and rear and steering wheel badges out for the JDM blue ones got her some blue lug nuts blue floor mats some nice blue seat covers and steering wheel cover cuz that's her favorite color she got this car for a commuter car she used to have a 99 Civic SI when I was younger and she was more into going fast But she's 50 now and not really into going fast but now all of a sudden she wants to get back into it We just did all those visual things but now she wants to do a cold air intake downpipe full exhaust you know some coilovers and that's about it still keep it her nice commuter car she's had it since brand new only has about 140k on it now MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE DID IT MAKE WITH THE COLD AIR INTAKE DOWNPIPE FULL EXHAUST??????? I know it's not going to be crazy fast or anything trust me I own a 95 Civic Coupe that's my built track car with the k24 block and K20 head and then also a rare 2004 V6 6-speed Honda Accord coupe with the hfp package with about every mod you can think of But since my mom all the sudden wants to get back into modifying cars like she did when I was younger and she had to SI from 99 that Coupe that was a b16 and she had intake headers exhaust and take manifold throttle body and many other mods on that car this is still her commuter she takes really good care of it and plans to keep it for a long time but I just want to ask somebody else who has the same car who's done the mods what they thought of and if it felt decently quicker and more fun to drive with those mods that you did since visually redone every single thing to make the outside into an SI the grill the bumpers fog lights spoiler from the SI has the EXL wheels and EXL interior with the leather I just think it'd be cool to get my mom back into it and those mods I think would make it more fun without messing with the reliability said she's not going to go full blown race car like my Honda's or like we used to back in the day when we were both younger Sorry for the long comment

[@7SUK1]

​@@seattlejdmcivic Well this was a year ago but if your mother wants more power out of the r18, there's very few things you can do to get any horse power gains before boosting it. Unfortunately those motors don't take power too well either and will max out at 250hp safely according to the forums.

[@crackaddict444]

Aside from a huge tiny minority of "enthusiasts", anybody moving up from a 14 year old Civic into a brand new car is pretty much guaranteed to like the new one. The average person doesn't give two shits about how soft their dashboard or how much steering feel there is. And a 2012 Civic is a more comfortable car, safer, faster, is far more up to date, and likely isn't to be as easily stolen by hoodlums and will atleast go 10 years before falling into the hands of idiot ricers.

[@HondaProJason]

Great review I like the long term update idea. I cant wait to see your review and personal opinion on the 'refreshed' 2013 Civic

[@dmaustin15]

I got my 2012 Lx civic this past april, and I am pleased with it. I was between a mazda 3, corolla, and civic and the civic had a great deal going on that allowed me to get this car. The acceleration is a little lacking, but I feel it is a very good car, I like the ipod integration with M.I.D. I keep the econ on and don't have a problem, the only time is getting onto the highway which I may turn it off, but otherwise I feel this car will last a long time.

[@soloflight1975]

Can i ask a. Favor? Can you make a review for a 2012 focus and 2012 civic after 5yrs, and lets see what car is still running, and fyi my friends filed for lemon law on his 2012 focus due to its transmission problems and engine over heating

[@francismenard6766]

Not only the EX-L has a trunk release button on the key. I have a LX and mine has it.

[@depecheddurand]

The reason hyundai and kias give so many goodies because they can``t compete with hondas and toyotas on power tran period!! I would rather have a civic or a corolla with less features than a kia or a ford or other manufacturers

[@TaijiArban]

depecheddurand Well hyundai is pretty good nowadays

[@user-oq3lv6lv7x]

Ijnat Nope, i had the 2013 santa fe and it was dying by 60,000 miles.

[@styleomatic]

2012 Civic transmission failure at 78k miles. POS

[@user-gk7zv8qz8i]

styleomatic maybe take care of it.

[@user-gk7zv8qz8i]

Got a friend with a 150k 2012 exl

[@munecosuave13]

honda rulezz!! no matter what for many years and still running, not like others found dead on the road always (fords, chevies, kias, hyuindais, mazdas etc, etc, etc,) .

[@pablomontoya2208]

Drinking game. Take a shot every time he says "my sister"

[@claudio_wrx]

pablo montoya I went to the hospital for alcohol poisoning lol

[@t.j.peterson3419]

Or when he says “it just isn’t as _ as the old civic”

[@podmuse1994]

My mom has one of these and I have the Ford Focus. I really like both cars as both have their strengths and weaknesses but the back seat is freaking huge compared to the Focus! I told my mom who downgraded from a midsized Chevy Malibu to this it feels as big as a midsized sedan inside vs my Focus.

[@tjhouston1280]

Looking back, I really like this car design. I appreciate it because now and days, automakers are going for these fast back sporty designs and it’s all the same. And to be honest, a lot of them don’t live up to their design language. Of course the current civic kinda does but ironically, this design to me is more unique now than it was back then while the current design of the civic is just… meh.

[@nathandudziak7106]

ok i came from a 02 grand am gt1 (with the 3400 v6) and i fell in love with this car for two reasons 1 the technology and 2 the handling (coming from my grand am). i had never driven a civic prior to my test drive and a couple of my buddies have 8th gens and i really like the styling of both generations. after having this car for about a year now i love the freaking thing although it is much weaker than i would like it to be. as an enthusiast i second guess not buying an si but whatever. love it

[@sajajaafar4077]

Do you think it a good first car

[@midnightmystery544]

Excellent!

[@lucasvalubatista]

This is the first video I see in you channel, like it so much!

[@theredline]

We were wondering when someone would notice those, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@shahedulkarim79]

I always love honda civics

[@00lexuses300]

My aunts 2012 civic lx sedan now has 72k miles and she's had it since brand new. After a year she had it it already had 36k miles. It's highly possible that it would be passed down to me next year when I get my first car. The color is polished metal metallic.

[@garfieldgray]

I was about to get one. This video completely changed my mind.

[@1393floyd]

I have seen a huge difference in economy with mine. Eco button on and I get 34 mpg around town. Off it gets around 28. I never turn it off this isn't The Fast and the Furious lol.

[@jeanlenor1858]

Don't you have to turn it on every time you start the car or does it always stay on?

[@mrwilson8631]

*At **0:00** he looks like a customized roblox character.*

[@BearerOfDreams]

Mr Wilson O O F

[@TonyTowers22]

Bro lol

[@rtistik]

Thanks for the update of your sister's car. I also use my 2012 Civic Coupe as a commuter car and also travel wise. I just recently passed over 23,000 miles on it in almost 10 months and achieved an average mpg of 35.3, and it has held up pretty well. With all the things you pointed out inside the car has never happened to me, it still looks new. I accidently broke the passenger side mirror off the mount part of the mirror, but used some automotive glue to hold it until I can get it fixed.

[@tipoomaster]

Trying to decide between this and a second gen Mazda 3

[@swimskim5874]

tipoomaster what did you end up getting

[@theredline]

Sofyan is our editor in chief and co-founder

[@theredline]

We think the new 2012 Camry is a big improvement over the 2011 model for sure. However, after just one year on the market with new entries from Ford, Honda, and Nissan, the vehicle already looks old and stale for us. It's still a solid car and you can probably pick one up for a good price, but it's not very exciting or flashy. Although, most buyers are looking for just that.

[@anothersiguy]

very professional, opinionated but not irrationally harsh. sofyan really knows how to make some great videos. the other guys... not so much

[@shsjr2010]

my mom replace her 02 CR-V with 250,000 miles with a '12 Civic EX. She loves it and the gas mileage is great(averaging 35 mpg). If you are looking for a great commuter car and something that you can depend on, it is hard to look past the Civic. Not a car I would buy for myself but still a great car nonetheless.

[@kevinabraham2029]

I think it's amazing that Honda literally fixed all of what you dinged on the 2012, for the 2013 model year. I wonder if this video is what caused that. Would have been awesome if it did! I drive a 2015 and I notice improvements in every aspect.

[@GS300LUV]

You do get the trunk open button on the key fob on all models of the 2012 civic. I own a 2012 LX and it has it.

[@Audi123000]

Thanks for your quick answer. Glad to hear that the car is holding up nicely

[@omarcarrillos2727]

Long review and not a word about reliability. It was all negative about a very personal point of view. It's a honda civic 1.8L engine not a space rocket.

[@SirAuron777]

Do these have bad automatic transmissions?

[@blackgold9802]

i love mine i just got it im so happy☺simple and easy

[@ThaBestStarks]

I too was surprised how much people hate this car! My wife as the 2012 civic ex with nav in this color and we both love the car. No problems as of yet although it seems to be maybe ever so slightly beginning to pull to the left. I guess i can see why honda enthusiast hate this car but its truly not that bad. With most cars having a lot of plastic in the interior at least they did some grainy plastics to give the plastic some depth and character. wifes car has chipping on the steering wheel too

[@2Kriss2Kross]

Love this new style of review and the license plate covers! I find it funny how a Toyota ad played before I saw this video!

[@elusivellama]

I just watched your excellent hands-on and in-depth review of the 2013 Civic, then this video of the 2012. I feel sorry for the people who were duped into buying the 2012 version. There is a substantial difference in interior quality (especially that faux stitched leather in the 2013), not to mention the other bits like the console, storage cubby and the way the car drives. However, all this means is that the 2013 is now competitive...which underlines the fiasco that was the 2012 Civic.

[@TheEuroperules]

Nice work Sofyan !

[@AdrianAxl]

The hate for this car is so extra🙄

[@CSXTrainLoverCN01]

Adrian Chaplin I'm very happy with my honda, I don't understand why people complain so much

[@JuanMolina-dj1hb]

Adrian Calmate prieton

[@FCT8306onTwoWheels]

My Dad has the exact same car😁. Actually his is an LX with an aftermarket remote start. It's aiite, good on gas, low on power but good on gas.

[@massillonmarine]

You are out of your mind. I went from 1998 EX to 2012 EX and I LOVE LOVE LOVE this car. Mine has 156k and sounds much better than your 20k model. #FactsFactsFacts

[@swagkidm10]

Still have the car? How does it rude and is it reliable?

[@xoquixxoqafxo]

the color is the cool mist metallic so I guess it does look silver in certain lights

[@ra.dawkins1441]

Gud1

[@Pedal2TheMetal]

Great review Sofyan. I see you guys are doing better and better everytime. Looking cool as well haha As for the Civic, it's grown to me a little since I first saw it but I still think it needs an update asap, because those uneven lines in the dash are just terrible. But I love the gathered leather in the seats.

[@nicholasdean3467]

Wow bad rep? As that Honda Civic year is the best built in the past decade almost now. 0:10

[@krunky5000]

This is the first time I have seen you rip a Honda apart. I rented an LX and was very disappointed with it

[@Blank00]

Why does the 2012 Civic have a different beauty cover on top of the engine when the 2013 one ended up reverting to the same beauty cover from the 8th gen?

[@ra.dawkins1441]

I wonder the same too. the 8gen is also lighter and faster in my opinion.

[@HolidayKirk]

11:23 "Quickness and Christmas"

[@johnconnor2402]

I think the 06 - 11 Civic back end looks better and is more aggressive looking

[@00lexuses300]

And the lx does have a trunk button in the 2012 and up models except for the dx

[@bdhays63]

Youre reviewing from the aspect of someone whos owned the previous generation, that makes this a biased review. It gets awesome gas mileage, will last forever, and is almost guaranteed to have the best available selection of aftermarket parts out of any car in its class. Plus you can get one waaaaaaaay cheaper than a Focus. I challenge anything in its class to a 10 year follow up review. Just an FYI, the trunk popper button on the key fob is available on all models LX and up (3:13)

[@izeeen]

whats the difference between the honda civic 1.8g and 1.8s

[@Keith-vacuums]

I love the 2012 Hyundai elantra 1.8 engines when you put ur foot down on it hard

[@Veyronp87]

i drive a 2011 mazda 3 i touring and although the civic is more comfortable and refined i personally think the mazda is better looking and way more fun to drive

[@rubenmonroy4841]

Everyone bashes on Civic’s. Is it s good first car? I’m kinda second guessing on getting one

[@user-gk7zv8qz8i]

Ruben Monroy first car? Absolutely. Not insanely fast so you can’t be dangerous, amazing visibility, very safe with all the airbags and comfy!!

[@xoquixxoqafxo]

I noticed that as well, I'm not sure if there was something wrong with this particular one or if all of them do that. Didn't sound very pleasant tho...

[@KooKookid520]

well yeah totally, lol. It lacks power to my 98 accord, but she was mentioning the difference between Econ on and Econ off. And having driven the 2013 Civic with and without Econ mode on, I must say the car feels a lot more dead and less fun to drive.

[@xoquixxoqafxo]

It's doing well! Just hit 10,500 miles and looking good. I'll make a new video of it sometime in Dec for it's one year review!

[@americanguy87]

I test drove a 2012 and bought a 2013 huge improvement

[@crazyandroiddude96]

I would rather have a 2006 to 2007 Accord. Hondas quality was so much better. The 2008 to 2012 accords had bad interior quality. While my 2008 Accord was in the shop they gave me a 2016 Civic LX. And it had no power. The quality of the interior was pretty good. But from what I’ve seen 2007 to 2012 Civic wasn’t very good quality. A friend of mine had a 2007 civic hybrid. She said she could put her foot to floor and nothing would happen. And the front bumper cover just fell off randomly. I think Honda upped their game in the civic and the accord in 2013.

[@carlosmelendez8317]

Need advice anyone please??? I can't decide between a 2012 Scion Tc auto, 120k miles or a 2012 Honda Civic LX w Manual Transmission, 88k miles. I like the idea of a Honda with lower mileage even though it's slow and not sporty look. The Tc is faster as far as hp goes and looks better than the Civic LX but the 2 doors might make car insurance higher. I just want a fun daily, driver car and yes, I considered a Civic Si but they're out of my budget and most are high mileage or heavily modded. Let me know your thoughts??? Thx

[@DancinRandy54]

love the new camera angle on the test drive! kinda like tflcar!

[@S1LLY_Y0SHI_L0V3R]

Good Review Of 2012 Honda Civic EX-L. 😀

[@nomadic_inflight]

Still, the Civic here in the Philippines(which is imported from Thailand) has soft touch door panels! :P

[@taufanbudiman2344]

The Nomadic Buddies In Indonesia too

[@bmwmsport11]

And where did you get the plate covers? They are amazing. I wish my state allowed optional front plates.

[@DannyNomad]

I don't think you understand the point of Hondas. The point is that when you turn the key it fires up and goes, and will continue to for several hundred thousand miles.

[@corvette1568]

My sister did test drove a 2012 Honda Civic when we were looking for cars for her

[@KooKookid520]

He said she noticed the lack of power with the Econ Boost on.

[@ehcivicracer]

The transmission plays a big role in speed. It seems like the gears are too long and bogs everytime it shifts. I had a 94 civic si hatchback and it was slow and rides like crap compared to my 04 civic lx. Just bought a 2013 civic lx and it is way better than the 04 LX. Power speed is light years better than my old 94 SI. Tq is better than 04LX. Road noise has dramatically improve from the 5th and 6th gen civics. I also owned a 06 civic SI. On the 2013 LX with EOn on it doesnt feel too bad.

[@billkozlowski4526]

I have a 2012 Honda Civic it runs great I just can't figure out why does is hesitate when I hit 30 mile hours

[@theredline]

The review of the 2013 model is actually already up :)

[@nikob381]

Does the 2012 Civic have a 3.5mm audio aux jack?

[@itzmando]

First? lol wow I feel lame. Great update on the longevity for this car. I am considering the Accord but I think I will wait for DI Acura motors with hybrid systems as I plan to purchase an MDX or TL when I am done with college.

[@corvette1568]

Will we a update on this car soon does your sister still have it??

[@xoquixxoqafxo]

I am a Honda guy, but I would honestly rather buy the current Focus over the current Civic lol but sorry, no Hyundai or Kia for me, their powertrains aren't as refined and they aren't sporty to drive

[@zealgaming9123]

Which one is the best... 06,10 or 2012 Honda Civic??

[@neoopera]

@2theRedlineLLC Sofyan is this generation civic air conditioner better than the previous gen.

[@jonathan_calixto]

I was planning on getting a civic LX 2012 but I decided to just save the couple thousands and get the 2013 civic

[@feelsaxelman]

3:18 slow it down there. 888 KM/H is a bit fast.

[@krunky5000]

Indeed. It seems as if Honda and Toyota are concentrating on quantity instead of quality. This is what got Chrysler and GM in trouble

[@bnr32gtr90]

the main problem is that the pain started within an 1.5hrs and i'm only 21, the 95 mitsubishi pajero that we went to pick up had far superior seats in it. I love driving but between the faults he put in the video and a couple others such as the door cards flexing when the windows are being rolled up/down and the back seat being a pain in the ass to get in and out from (corolla wins that one). It's not a car I'm proud of owning at all the latest trip just over did it.

[@TheJujuboy1997]

I have a 2012 civic as well and I've noticed that nasty sound as well it only shows up when your gas pedal is floored and at 5500rpm+ has anyone found the problem to it?

[@bnr32gtr90]

because the cars faults aren't that visible in the 20 min test drive, and most dealerships frown when u take a brand new car for day and put 650km on it...

[@Drizzy012]

thinking about getting a 2012 EX-L with navi

[@YZFR6Yammie]

looking for a 3rd car/backup. mannn civic seems most appealing.. meh.. we will see..

[@warthero852]

totally agree. i have a 92 corolla and its basically almost at its end. hate when people bitch about stuff your not gunna feel or touch when your driving. cant wait to buy an 8th gen tho since i cant afford the new one

[@importcarenthusiast]

Huh, I guess they do use a different oil. the 11 Civic has 5W-20, and I think the 12 has 0W-20.

[@lowkey5030]

what did you say in 9:05 ? sorry im did not hear it clearly ,somebody help me .thanks ! 你在9:05说了什么？抱歉我没有听清楚，谁能帮帮我，谢谢！

[@lowkey5030]

+滴菜鸟低调 sounds like ''falomir'' or what

[@kj3859]

+滴菜鸟低调 familiar

[@iTsTheVoLtAgE]

I think you should find a 2002 Honda Civic LX. thats what we have. and it would be nice to hear your review about it!