Comparing Steph and CP3 to Nas and Jay-Z With Van Lathan | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

[@TheGauchoAmigo]

The chemistry between Van & Rusillo is off the charts

[@johnnyfox8934]

Van is a great Ringer glue guy. He meshes well with everyone.

[@ProudVet]

They should be on T.V. This generation obsesses with compassions to the past. We should never have had to suffer through Skip and Shannon.

[@prod.snqwfall1347]

@@johnnyfox8934 “Ringer glue guy” nailed it!!

[@victoralexander5152]

What a great conversation. You guys should do more content together.

[@SinghROAR]

Who the hell looks back on Nas/Jay and think Jay won because he signed Nas? That's a weird take. I remember that being a feel good moment more than anything.

[@seankelly4594]

A lot of people

[@DrPhill96]

Nas was bought by Jay. Can’t beat them then sell yourself to them. 😂

[@elbowgang9715]

Did Jay own Def Jam? LA Reid ran the label, not Jay.

[@kes9298]

Bro they always try to rewrite history to try to get jayz a win. Nas won the battle

[@derrickgriffines9050]

No he won because he walked the talk ... nas walked the talk to but bruh 2.5b songwriters hall of fame ... 4 classics come on😂😂😂 most no1 albums come on ... 😂😂😂 he ran the rap shit😂 most Grammys 😂 to me he won because he did everything he said he would do on a scale no artists( not only hiphop )has done it before

[@kelechi321]

Now that I know Russillo loves Nas over Jayz It cements his status as best opinion head on KZbin. I need more hip-hop laced sports talk

[@Wyndamn]

Illmatic 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@fexcab]

🙌🏼Russillo and Van Lathan buddy cop movie is needed🙌🏼

[@Hotsauceonmy]

Van Lanthan got the best podcast voice on the Ringer

[@OEx25]

What a collab! Love Van. Would love to see more of this!

[@trymuk8816]

So glad that somebody finally said cp3 should’ve won mvp when Kobe did but Kobe definitely should’ve won some previous years or after.

[@synapse913]

That wasn’t a hot take even at the time. Kobe was given a “lifetime achievement” MVP. Simmons even had a take on that in his book. He said that either CP3 or KG should have won it that year; and he was right.

[@karimgreen8732]

Officially requesting once a month Van appearance… but I’ll settle for once a quarter. Straight gold content.

[@LeadersOfAFreeMind]

I love the “what are you trying to do here” moment. So good

[@watevakid]

need more van and russillo content

[@mojitomoon6878]

This is an AMAZING Conversation, I need more!

[@mikemcaleer8015]

Van has been the best guest on Russillo’s pod for a minute, the world needs a monthly life advice feature from him

[@Warrentertainment]

NaS definitely had a better half musically than Hov. His middle was a little more shakey though. Didn't love Lost Tapes 2 or the KanYe produced album, that third King's Disease wasn't it for me either, but I still respect the artistry and vision. Dude can rap.

[@kelechi321]

Seriously the Kings Disease trilogy is the BEST trilogy in rap history and/or the greatest 2nd half of any rap artist discography

[@Jorge-lh6px]

@@kelechi321 Tyler the creator is probably catching up to that. His second half has been nothing short of phenomenal, hope he drops more amazing albums.

[@conor8629]

@@Jorge-lh6pxlol

[@neilb3332]

Nas can rap huh? Who knew

[@kes9298]

Kings disease 3 is ridiculously good. You might have to revisit that one

[@jbwuzhere6819]

First thing. Steph is greater than CP3 but... how he became greater tells the story. Steph was in a better situation team wise. He had the perfect compliment of players around him. His teams were always tops on the defensive side of the ball despite him being a below avg defender. They were able to hide him on defense. CP3 couldn't hide behind J.J. Reddick, Jamal Crawford, etc. because Paul was the best defender on the team. The Warriors had 3-4 guys who could handle, facilitate and defend. If you remove both players from their respective teams the Warriors were the better roster to a man. Blake Griffin was excellent but after that... it was all GSW.

[@FYDKG18]

Excellent conversation!!

[@TannerLikesStuff]

I need more of these two together 😂

[@NumunuBeats]

The Kings Disease albums have absolutely pushed Nas past Hov.

[@derrickgriffines9050]

I dont think so .. none of them is a classic .. they are just good music ... listen to 4:44 ans hear what a classic is

[@WhelmedButReady]

Im sorry, but i already gotta pushback. The Steph/CP3 comparison would have to be a lot closer for it to be similar. Like neck and neck. Meanwhile Jay and Nas have/will be debated about their greatness for 20+yrs and till the end of time. EDIT: Okay, I do see what Van is trying to say. Steph/Jay far more successful overall. But at least at one point in time, Nas was above him, and now he's an equal or even been leapfrogged over

[@stilldre247]

@dannytallmage2409the

[@jacobellis9419]

Van wow didn't know I needed this

[@figga222]

Nas means much more to rap than CP3 means to basketball. interesting comparison but feels like a diss to the Nastradamus lol

[@KyleBarton-c8w]

This was hilarious! Well done fellas!

[@enriqueworthy4481]

TOGETHER BOYS.

[@Kalinbuggs]

That’s a TERRIBLE take lol CP3 ain’t Nas the gap between Nas and JAYZ is wayyy closer than the gap between CP3 and Steph

[@Peekul1]

That's true about the warriors overtaking the clippers. The warriors lost that "clippers owner is racist" series but that was the beginning of the end for the clips

[@obiwan3993]

This album and all the hitboy/Nas joints are Fuckin🔥🔥🔥

[@tombystander]

Big fan of Van talking ball

[@ianfitchett2839]

GREAT TALK 🎉

[@BALLSOHARDU]

put the whole show on YT.....

[@roronoazorro9509]

Chris Paul wears #3 because Steph is 10 times greater than he is, and Steph wears 30.

[@sweg9457]

I thought smarter basketball fans watched this stuff I guess that silliness is everywhere

[@neilb3332]

Facts and jae crowder the goat because no one is higher than #99

[@roronoazorro9509]

@@sweg9457 it's a joke

[@JordanBrown-ge9tn]

Van nailed the Jay-Z point. Great convo overall

[@joshmack]

White boy weekend sounds pretty fun 😂😂🤣

[@Musso8771]

Whoa cool rap analogy.

[@YunisRajab]

Tbf you can't take anything over illmatic

[@clipclop7641]

Damn opening 3 minutes of this is hilarious

[@realtick]

This was such a good take by Van Lathan

[@jaeoctober7090]

When Van incorrectly stated Nas worked for Jay Z, I turned the video off. LA Ried signed Nas to Def Jam. Jay Z worked there then but had nothing to do with that deal.

[@theveteran8546]

Two points as a nba and hip hop head Jay Z is my favorite rapper so I’m a bit bias but Nas was Magic HOV is MJ both great but come on. Second point if the NBA doesn’t veto the Chris Paul to the lakers trade I think the convo is completely different. Chris Paul is my favorite PG since Kidd but he really got a lot of bad breaks outside of just injuries imo love the convo and chemistry overall.

[@ThomasTobias-q5h]

What about Michael’s Ownership of the Hornets if you take shoe sales into the GOAT argument???

[@johngomez2138]

This was fucking genius! Seriously...loved it

[@yawdaorb]

Ryen can't claim he's a hip hop head then say Nas second half of his career hasn't been great

[@mcgb7490]

he’s right lol

[@mattwilliams7454]

Would be cool if Chris walked into the locker room with a "the name's Paul Escobar and i roxx it out"

[@colinanthony2011]

Doesn’t really work. Steph could be Nas or Jay-Z, but CP3 is like…Chingy? Mims?

[@akaallenpain852]

You have it backwards …..Jay was up and coming and had to take a back seat to Nas who was younger when illmatic came out …... Chris Paul was up and coming and had to take a back seat to Steph curry who was younger when he won the first chip….and also they from the same area

[@CommonNotCommon24-7]

Translation "Nas the Goat but got to respect Jay moves from rapper to Businessman"

[@rollingwins]

I see the comparison, just by the title

[@bobt9705]

Terrible comparison. CP3 never won anything.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CoachJM2455]

Russillo you better wake up and get on that Nas recent run!

[@cjtrules1]

Can't put my finger on it put this felt like a Nas * Jay-Z conversation more than a Steph and CP3 one.

[@themediumprofessor]

Call it Puffy and Snoop. Eventually Puff’s got to realize it’s Snoop’s game & nobody can beat him at what he does

[@MrMosesjackson1976]

ummm podcast on the way?

[@801Kicks]

The real question is has Ryan listened to Playboi Carti lmao

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Ryan is right, nas is better and it's not particularly close for me

[@sean-hu1cl]

Don’t disrespect Nas by comparing him to CP3. Come on Van

[@julianbell9161]

Maybe I’m just in a different circle than other people, but me and the people I know who are into hip hop all think that Nas is better than Jay Z. I love Hov, but Nas is better. I didn’t know people think Jay Z is the hip hop goat.

[@LBJ6james]

people? Rappers and his peers say JayZ the GOAT.

[@mca217]

R-Rabbit doesn't have the same ring to it.

[@alsdaman8211]

I love Van but this a bad analogy. Nobody thinks CP3 and Steph were ever on each other’s level talent wise like a lot of folks think Hov and Nas are.

[@Kalinbuggs]

Exactly

[@ProudVet]

Guys, how come we don’t have this sort of comparison….never mind. Russillo…..who’s not standing on MJ’s shoulders?

[@TheKidYT]

It's Jay Z and it's Steph and it's not a fucking debate.

[@Julians1996]

Isn’t this the dude that had an argue with Kanye 😂

[@ShadesOfSepia]

Damn ryens friends with van Lathan? Maybe he is cool…

[@USGraham]

Tremendous

[@jamesk1245]

If Drake had Kanye’s mouth and expression, he’d be Van.

[@polothispolothat6050]

Dude said there’s plenty of names I can list next to Jay Z, as far as rapping…😐

[@bigtimespeakers8211]

Brah..... Hov preformed an entire concert with only B-side songs

[@derrickgriffines9050]

They dont know

[@TheUberAlec]

Anyone with a brain knows Nas is the much more meaningful hip-hop artist than Jay-Z. Really, there might not be another more "meaningful" artist in hip-hop than Nas was. When he came out, he was practically the rap messiah - Illmatic the genres defining masterpiece of storytelling.

[@ADeleven]

Lol white boy is clearly out of his depth with his hip hop knowledge. Not knowing how active and monsterous Nas has been these past 3yrs.

[@Primenumber19]

Nas had the best album jay z had the best career. Steph has both so to speak.

[@kes9298]

Nas doesn't have business acumen???Come on y'all have to do some research. He has one of the most succcesful business men in silcon valley as we speak. Also it sounds like Russillo needs to catch up Nas second half of his career. Life is good, Kings Disease 1, Kings Disease 2, Magic and Kings Disease 3 all in 10 year span. Distant Relatives with Damiean Marley is fire too. Now if anybody has had a weak second half of their career album wise it has been Jay.

[@derrickgriffines9050]

​@dannytallmage2409😂😂😂😂 i couldn't put it better

[@holstorrsceadus1990]

Disrespectful because Nas has a ring and Jay Z ain't Steph he's Melo. Jay Z ain't the GOAT he's just the king of New York.

[@kes9298]

People still trying to rewrite that Nas and Jay z history I see. Nas won the battle, it is what it is. Nas partnered with Jayz. He actually came to def jam under LA Reid.

[@derrickgriffines9050]

😂😂😂make up shit .. the question is who was the boss

[@saintcharles8057]

Nas signed to Def Jam for 10 million dollars. Roc a fella records was sold to Def Jam for 10 Million dollars. 1 stone to break the whole roc in half.

[@derrickgriffines9050]

Signing and buying a label are different assets if you have a knowledge about business plus Jay signed him there😂😂😂

[@at0mly]

Jay-Z could never make Illmatic.

[@derrickgriffines9050]

Nas could never make a billion later alone walk the talk ..yall listen to people who talk about money we listen to a man who literally makes money .. plus hov has 4 classic albums

[@MrKnicks718]

Nas did a partnership with Defjam, shit was defjam/Columbia. Van buggin. Nas got platinum albums so he won a ring. Van buggin

[@aron.gortman]

WTF I didn't know grown men listened to hip hop still. I thought Russillo was talking about Albricht Mayer in another video.

[@DicWolf]

This is ridiculous....I call the sat and Sunday white boy weekend at my job and to hear Van Latham say the same thing wtf

[@jesusreyes2186]

Jay Z ain’t all that to me. Ive paid to see Nas live I went to a Jay concert to see DJ Quik. Just my opinion

[@Gypsywasteland]

Why do y’all act like Steph beat cp3 by himself. Y’all gotta add context to those warriors teams they were stacked even the teams without kd where really good.

[@kevincampbell4708]

What are you talking about? After KD went down in the 2019 playoffs. The Rockets were favorites to win the series against the Warriors. The Rockets had two of the three best players in the series.

[@themanwnoname3454]

🍾🍾

[@universoullifebalance]

Nas bodied Jay Z . Jay Z didn’t sign Nas to a deal it was more a collaboration.. Jay Was a mock head for Def Jam not the real boss anyway

[@stevemoneybags9498]

I think jokic looks at basketball like any other job. Garbage man, doctor, teacher. It doesn’t matter. It’s all the same thing. It’s the thing he does to provide for his family. He doesn’t like it. He doesn’t like talking about it, after spending all day doing it. And it’s definitely not his favorite thing to do. Similarly, it seems the spectacle of nba coverage, is also silly to him. His post game interviews have the same vibe as construction worker being asked to do an interview after finishing their shift. The dude is just cut from a different cloth.

[@seankelly4594]

Jay is the goat but nas is top 3 best imo

[@apng8879]

I already the nas Jay part of this will be mad fraudulent with a side of pander 🤷🏿‍♂️ let's see 🤔👀

[@marc8317]

Vans a goat

[@davidvillela7476]

This conversation made zero sense and got lost really quickly

[@savii4912]

ryan do you want me to blow a gasket right now?

[@pattyweston-mg8kz]

What do cp3, Steph, Jay z, and nas all have in common besides one thing this is cheap

[@SoloACE88]

Nas > Jay-Z

[@Mic-100]

Van ur wrong because Nas didnt sign to Jay. Nas signed to Def Jam. Jay doesnt own any of Nas music... stop the revisionist history...

[@ultrablack9293]

This analogy isn't good at all. CP3 never had a championship. Nas got classic albums, Grammys, critical acclaim from his peers, still making amazing music... This argument is ignorant! Nas lyrical process and career is worthy of at least 6 championship rings. CP3 ain't got one. Come on thun!

[@neilb3332]

It's called an analogy bro chill

[@ultrablack9293]

@@neilb3332 Bad analogy.

[@LBJ6james]

@@ultrablack9293 grammys? He just won his first grammy 2 years ago. Ur acting like hes JayZ with the most ever for a rapper

[@ultrablack9293]

@@LBJ6james Grammys don't equate to greatness bro!

[@LBJ6james]

@@ultrablack9293 ur the one who mentioned grammys.. lmaoo

[@SchulzEricT]

Jay-Z is WILDLY overrated. He's not even in the top tier of rappers. He's Aerosmith, he's The Rolling Stones. Dude has a million songs; his "best of" might be arguably in the top tier. But his "worst of" is *awful*. He's a volume rapper. I hate to be the white guy picking a white guy as the best, but that's why I have Eminem number one: his "worst of" is still really really fucking good. (There are some guys I have no problem with arguing as #1 instead of Em. But Jay-Z is NOT one of them.)

[@LBJ6james]

Lmao Em worst raps are fkn terrible.. Corny ass lines about killing his wife. Hov is the GOAT. Every rapper Eminem signed and tried to build up failed. Jay Z is one of the best ghost writers ever. Eminem said it himself '' its goes Reggie Jay Z Tupac and Biggie'' Reason Em said that line at the height of his career. People that actually listen to music and dont skim thru it know why Jay is ranked as a Goat. Dont take it from me take it from his peers

[@derrickgriffines9050]

If any one thinks eminem is top 3 then his on drugs or knows nothing about the topic ..

[@SchulzEricT]

@@derrickgriffines9050 Name another rapper whose every album is better than his previous. Name another rapper whose "worst of" is still great. Can't do either; Em has both.

[@LBJ6james]

@@SchulzEricT relapse was meh.. the other one that i cant even remember its name was so bad he had to drop kamikaze cuz he knew that shit was awful

[@derrickgriffines9050]

@@SchulzEricT I guess you didn't hear em last shit it was mumble staff try some hiphop ..like kings disease1 or 3 or 4:44 ..

[@MrOneanddone91]

There is no world that exists where Takeover was better than Ether. Get his bum off the airwaves man.

[@frankchoi7]

Too bad jay has completely become a joke in his later career

[@kennyopinions17]

Russillo is as wrong about the Jay z Nas debate as he is about his Chris Paul adoration. It’s refreshing

[@DorseyShaw]

Jfc that was some mega-worthless commentary

[@Peekul1]

That was a good interview with CP. Van seems jealous.

[@BrazilianBeast45]

Nas working for Jay z is exactly what KD did when he went to GSW

[@bobt9705]

Nas never worked for Jayz. Nas never signed to roc nation. Bad casual take🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@macenblu6]

love the part where guy calls the days he hangs out with rusillo "White boy day", while rusillo smiles at the casual racism... wonder how it would go over if rusillo called those same days "black boy day"? would he be fired by the ringer by the end of the day? within the hour?

[@derrickgriffines9050]

Ya'll just want keep the conversation going hov is simply better .. my criteria is walking the talk... ya'll out hear comparing cp3 to steph 😂😂😂... you like made up shi**

[@CalebFranzen]

Skip the first three minutes. You're welcome.

[@BuMPiHD]

Thank you. Shut up n

[@BJAdamBarry]

You're not welcome, the first 3 minutes are hilarious.

[@itsELL24]

Ratio

[@michaelstover6778]

Apparently this dude doesn’t know the difference between trade and signing with a team wow