The De-Evolution of Denzel Crocker (How Fairies RUINED His Life)

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@bigdray55
@bigdray55 3 ай бұрын
It makes sense that he makes his students lives as miserable as possible, that only increases the chance of them getting fairies leading to him having a higher chance to capture one. Imagine if him and Vicky worked together to make every moment of every child’s life miserable driving up the number of fairies in the town.
@SioxGreyWolf
@SioxGreyWolf 3 ай бұрын
Could also explain AJ, cause if everyone loses, there is some solidarity, but if there is at least one person going good, it feels a little worse.
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 3 ай бұрын
That makes Sense
@pokechatter
@pokechatter 3 ай бұрын
Am I misremembering or was there some episode where Vicky had a temporary crush on Crocker’s villainy?
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 3 ай бұрын
@@pokechatter it may have been in fairly odder
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 ай бұрын
The cruel irony that the fairies need him to be miserable and obssesed with them to have magic is so cruel
@trika91
@trika91 3 ай бұрын
I never understood that plot point. If Crocker was that important for fairy society to function, what did they do before he became obsessed and what will they do once his passes?
@freddykrueger1699
@freddykrueger1699 3 ай бұрын
Maybe every generation there's a new version of Crocker? I mean theres different versions of Vickey as seen by Vick, so there'll probably be different Crockers. ​@@trika91
@Dr_Damon_1111
@Dr_Damon_1111 3 ай бұрын
​@@trika91thanks to the foundations existence we know magic obsessed people have and will always exist
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 3 ай бұрын
​@@Dr_Damon_1111oh the Galaxy institute
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 3 ай бұрын
​@@trika91yeah it makes no Sense
@Numbuh8578
@Numbuh8578 3 ай бұрын
Jorgan really unfairly punished Crocker for something that wasn't even his fault
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 3 ай бұрын
He should of punished Timmy instead
@Numbuh8578
@Numbuh8578 3 ай бұрын
@@StevenJones851 Cosmo was the one who stupidly revealed himself tho
@joe-lewisjavonnelson1523
@joe-lewisjavonnelson1523 3 ай бұрын
@@StevenJones85160’s Jorgen (with his 2000’s counterpart) did ban Timmy from going back to a certain time period so the boy can’t mess with Crocker’s tragic fate.
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 3 ай бұрын
​@@Numbuh8578Yeah in hindsight, it's annoying how he isn't called out for his role in Crocker's fairy obsession.
@ninjafrog6966
@ninjafrog6966 3 ай бұрын
@@StevenJones851why? cosmo was the reason he lost them in the first place. even without timmy being there, in the original timeline where crocker loses cosmo and wanda, it’s still cosmo who reveals that crocker has fairies. if anything, Jorgan should’ve punished cosmo, not crocker
@khalidhenry3857
@khalidhenry3857 3 ай бұрын
If that episode didn't exist, Timmy could've wished that Crocker no longer believed in fairies.
@endamcnabola
@endamcnabola 3 ай бұрын
There was an episode where he stopped believing, but it turns out, his belief is where all fairies' magic came from, and they have to KEEP him believing.
@khalidhenry3857
@khalidhenry3857 3 ай бұрын
@@endamcnabola That’s the episode I was talking about, but I forgot the title
@giasca
@giasca 3 ай бұрын
​@@khalidhenry3857 It's called Crocker Shocker iirc
@khalidhenry3857
@khalidhenry3857 3 ай бұрын
@@giasca Thank you
@ryutotatsuki3665
@ryutotatsuki3665 3 ай бұрын
@@endamcnabola ngl dumbest world building plot I've heard of Doesn't want humans to know about fairies yet they relied on one guy to power their entire world?
@sansbazinga9821
@sansbazinga9821 3 ай бұрын
If A New Wish continues, I hope they give Crocker some closure. Hazel seems like a nice enough person to give Crocker a chance. And since she wished for all her friends to know about Cosmo and Wanda it's not outside the realm of possibility. Let Crocker find out he's right and that alone is enough to give him peace now and he can retire at last.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Wouldnt crocker try to capture cosmo and wanda again?
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 3 ай бұрын
Hazel would try to help Crocker somehow. Timmy didn't usually care about using his wishes for others unless it benefited him somehow
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 ай бұрын
​@@matti.8465 Timmy tried several times to make his friends' lives better with wishes, but it usually ended up making things worse.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 2 ай бұрын
unfortuantely that would require a lot more doing, as crocker's desire for fairies had been twisted into a desire for power, which we have seen. Telling him fairies exist just means he'll try to catch them and use them to conquer the world so he can punish everyone for his suffering. SO if he were to be redeemed he'd need more than just the knowledge fairies exist.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 ай бұрын
Crocker had SO much promise as a kid. Shame it all went to waste
@lizabee7791
@lizabee7791 3 ай бұрын
I just realized something: what if Crocker was purposely a bad teacher so the kids would be miserable and increase their chances of getting Fairies?
@noahtate4214
@noahtate4214 3 ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense
@שלוברטי
@שלוברטי 3 ай бұрын
That is was is being said in the video...😅
@lizabee7791
@lizabee7791 3 ай бұрын
@@שלוברטי not really, they said he became a teacher to get close to fairies. What I’m saying is he was purposefully making the kids miserable by being such a terrible teacher who fails them and puts them down so that it would increase their chances of getting fairies and increase his chances of capturing them
@girlpower_gacha
@girlpower_gacha 2 ай бұрын
I think that’s cannon
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 2 ай бұрын
granted he could also just be doing it due to the years of abuse twisting him to the point he decided to make children miserable because he didn't want anyone being happier than him
@DrCocofruit
@DrCocofruit 3 ай бұрын
The painful truth is that it's a cycle. If Crocker did stop early enough? If he went to pursue sciences and not teaching, at least not interacting with secondary school kids? Him and Timmy would've never crossed paths. His emotional instability wouldn't have prompted him to mistreat Timmy and his class for years, nor would it inspire Timmy to go to the past in the first place. Timmy would've only had to deal with Vicky, while Crocker's life would be alright
@FredBloxworth
@FredBloxworth 3 ай бұрын
There’s a lesson about Crocker (and Plankton from SpongeBob): the dangers of obsession. Crocker is a really intelligent and excellent inventor, but he wasted his talents over his obsession and only becomes more misera'ble as time goes on. It started when he lost his fairy godparents in a situation he had no control over. While it was a sad event, it wasn’t the end of the world as proven by his college years. The moment he unveiled his obsession, he lost his girlfriend, investors, and credibility. His girlfriend leaves him out of embarrassment, his investors back out, and he comes a laughingstock in the entire auditorium. Worst of all, had it been an actual gadget, then he likely would’ve never been a laughingstock and he could’ve been a college professor like in “It’s a Wishful Life”, but we all know what happens after that. He gets’s a job as a teacher, but only since he thinks it’ll get him closer to fairies. He hates the job and makes it no secret to the students that he hates them, too. His obsession has intertwined with his work to where he doesn’t even care if the other teachers and his own students know if he’s insane. The moment he became a teacher was the beginning of the end for Crocker, because it marked the start of his mental decline. Crocker’s life is a tragic tale, made sadder by its preventability. He had multiple chances to drop his fairy obsession and use his skills to better humanity without fairy magic. Ironically, even when he tries to change his life for the better, magic would always force him back to his obsession (as shown in Channel Chasers ending and Crocker Shocker). Anyway, this was a really great character analysis video on Crocker! I don’t see that many videos on Crocker, so it’s always nice when his character get’s discussed. He seems so goofy on the surface, but there’s so much about his goals and backstory that makes him such a sad character.
@android7764
@android7764 3 ай бұрын
I honestly feel for Crocker. I feel like in a way, he's a different take of the character the Joker. All it takes is one bad day in order to lose one's sense of self & go insane. They say insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly & expecting the result. To borrow a line from Disney's "Meet The Robinsons," "It would have been better if he just let the past go & just kept moving forward." But where I find empathy with Crocker is that, I get it. Imo I don't think Crocker really cares about fairies. From a therapists perspective, I think what he's seeking is validation. No matter how old Crocker gets or how much time passes, he's still that little kid stuck on March 15th 1970 wondering WTF happened to his life. Even though as an old woman, his mother cares for him but from Crocker's perspective, it's too little too late. Where was that when he was neglected growing up? Where was she when her absence & oblivious neglect GAVE him Cosmo & Wanda in the first place. Crocker is really a tragic character because he's just a broken child looking for that one thing to make him feel whole again & when he did feel whole, he had Cosmo & Wanda, two of the biggest influences on his life that he can't even remember & only exist as a subconscious ghost of a directive that he gave himself in order to not forget the time he had with them. Yes, he causes a lot of his misfortune on himself due to his obsession & even when he tries to get over it, it's his belief in fairies that keeps Fairy world running so his obsession is a universal necessity until more people passively believe in fairies. So basically, he's stuck in this perpetual hell that he not only put himself in but is being kept in for the benefit of others all as punishment for something he didn't even initially cause on himself. How many of us have been in a situation where we were punished for something well beyond our control that we didn't even contribute to & the universe somehow said that was fair & made us eat it? How many of us were kicked & have been kicked while we were down, forced to eat shit & then told we have to say thank you & be grateful because things could be worse? How many of us are invalidated daily & all we want is that one moment in the sunshine knowing that all the pain, all the suffering was worth it? That the gaslighting, the torture, the abuse was exposed & you finally get that moment where you're seen & every shitty thing everyone has ever said about you was wrong. Saddest thing of all is the relatability of Crocker.. Because all he truly wants is validation, to be seen & to get back what's been taken away from him. Yes, he should just let go & move on but for what he's been through. Deep down I get it. Some things you simply can't let go because the trauma is so deep it becomes who you are. Letting it go means losing your sense of self which at times is the most painful thing a grown man can do because it invalidates your own history & the journey that made your personality what it is today. So even though he's crazy, even though he's an antagonist that makes kids lives miserable, sadly I understand why he is the way that he is & part of me is proud of his dedication & determination as twisted & demented as he is.
@darknessking2859
@darknessking2859 3 ай бұрын
I think dark laser is only evil because he was made to act like his character in the movie series from The fairly OddParents universe remember he started out as a poster advertising a toy the only reason he's alive is because Timmy pushed the life-size button. It's like how when the crimson Chin action figure was brought to life he had the same personality as the character from the comic book.
@there4you19
@there4you19 3 ай бұрын
Mrs. Crocker: What happened to the Perky Little Ball of Sunshine who used to be my Son? Me: Like Timmy's Parents You weren't There For him When He needed you. No wonder why He Resents you.
@highfivers5062
@highfivers5062 3 ай бұрын
Here is what I consider the canon timeline. -The original Oh Yeah! Cartoons pilot (maybe all of them) -Seasons, 1 through 8 (NOT 9 & 10!) -A New Wish -Channel Chasers ending [EDIT] I forgot to mention, The Jimmy Timmy Power Hours are canon as well, 1 in Season 4, and 2 & 3 in Season 5.
@tayloredwards4968
@tayloredwards4968 3 ай бұрын
Not going to lie he really is tragic. All Timmy was trying to do was to help him. But instead he ruined his life. And made him obsessed with fairy godparents.
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 3 ай бұрын
Are u ppl blind it's all cosmo fault, u forget cosmo flipped the switch to the speakers after timmy had Wanda turn them off plus he was going to stop past cosmo from exposing him which was what happened in the first incident before timmy time travelled. Sadly what happened to crocker was a canon event timmy tried to change it but the timeline fixed it by having cosmo be cosmo
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 3 ай бұрын
True ​@@da-vidcargill4975 but Cosmo wouldn't have been in that position in the first place had Timmy not gone back in time to prevent Crocker from losing his Fairy Godparents to begin with. As a wise Tortoise once said: man meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 ай бұрын
What a lot of you don’t understand is that in the original timeline it was Cosmo who caused Crocker to be the way he is. 70s Cosmo was about to reveal everyone that Crocker does in fact have fairies… implying that Cosmo was responsible for ruining Crocker’s life. Timmy just altered the space time continuum so that he (accidentally) be responsible for Crocker’s obsession towards Fairies. You guys are misinterpreting the episode as well as not understanding how time travel works.
@NewyorkJKSK
@NewyorkJKSK 3 ай бұрын
*FAIRY* *GOD* *PARENTS!!!!!!!*
@blackstarlight17
@blackstarlight17 3 ай бұрын
You're right, and Timmy, once he realized what had happened, was going to wish to go back and prevent it with that knowledge but Jorgen denied him, making it a new rule right on the spot if I recall that no one can wish to go back to that specific date. Had Jorgen not interfered in that moment, Timmy could have gone back, stopped himself from interfering to much and if anything just keep Cosmo and Wanda, mostly Cosmo busy away from the event. As for hippy Cosmo, again, same thing, have present Cosmo and Wanda lure him and hippy Wanda off to chat or play long enough for Crocker to give his speech, everyone applaud, and fix things for Crocker.
@electrobob992
@electrobob992 3 ай бұрын
I was kinda expecting Hazel would have learned why he was like that, and she goes through getting him helped. Being all "It wasn't his FAULT he lost his fairies, and he deserves to get a better life" Seriously look at his backstory that he was JUST like Hazel. Caring, using his Fairies to help people, etc. I could see the special could have been called "Crock of Lies" or "Crock and Punishment" Where Hazel bets her right to having fairies on proving he didn't deserve to lose them. If she fails, she loses her fairies. But obviously she'd win, and he'd get his memories restored. Maybe even using it as a way to have Timmy Cameo as an adult, called as a witness. Where they temporarily restore his memories to affirm Hazel's claims. With the final witness being Jorgan who gives a similar shock as with that finale, being all "No he revealed his fairies" Only for Hazel to ask for proof, where a reanimated flashback is played using magic. And Jorgan retracts his statement and agrees that he was wrong. Now they wouldn't undo the original moment Timmy messed up, but instead just restores his memories and his looks based on how he WOULD have looked if they never meddled. Either he would keep his memories and act as a friendly fairy defender, OR loses his memories again but this time only once without getting ruined by it. Being able to say goodbye, and saying "You too have a great godkid now. And hazel... Thank you, I feel so much better now. You are a good kid."
@Lias_Zone
@Lias_Zone 2 ай бұрын
I love this idea so fking much I'd shed a tear or two for it to be made as an actual episode of season 2 in A New Wish This fanmade script got me feeling all emotional stuff 😭
@someguy7887
@someguy7887 3 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand why jorgan banned Timmy from fixing his mistake. It always rubbed me the wrong way Timmy essentially created a paradox where he is the reason Crocker is the way that he is, and he isn’t allowed to fix it. Wouldn’t it have made better sense to undo the damage Timmy did instead of letting it go on for the entirety of Crocker’s life? Don’t even get me started on a wishful life, where jorgan rubs it in Timmy’s face that it was all his fault, as if jorgan didn’t also play a role in it as well.
@jomarcentermjm
@jomarcentermjm 3 ай бұрын
probably because he will make sure the big wand is working in the future. Could be there is very less fairies conspiracy theorist left in the world and Crocker being a big enough power source he need to be kept in that state.
@highfivers5062
@highfivers5062 3 ай бұрын
​@@jomarcentermjmI, honest to God, hope that becomes canon in the future. That way maybe since he's no longer their main source of power, his past actually has a shot to be fixed. Not to mention, Only Timmy was forbidden from returning, Hazel might actually have a shot at it.
@emrahalien2972
@emrahalien2972 3 ай бұрын
because you aren't understanding what really happened COSMO originally messed everything up. Timmy just accidentally became why it happened when he went back they didn't let him go back to fix it because it messes with time, and who knows what would of changed? Timmy might not of even gotten fairys or many other things, and they were lucky cosmo fucked up again when it was Timmy's accidental fuckup timeline, making it all happen the same way. Cosmo fucked up in both timelines. before timmy time traveled and after.
@someguy7887
@someguy7887 3 ай бұрын
There’s no denying that Cosmo was the one to spill the beans. I fully acknowledge that. What I am saying is that it wouldn’t have happened if Timmy didn’t go back in time. But I fully believe that it was jorgan who did the most amount of damage to Crocker. And if jorgan really needed some crazy person to power the big wand, there were other options, like that fairy hunting substitute teacher.
@jomarcentermjm
@jomarcentermjm 3 ай бұрын
@@highfivers5062 I don't think they can fix his past. he is still a necessary component of the old big wand and fixing the past would still have the big wand problem from the years prior to switching to magical chip based system. I think having him know the truth about his past would be a compromised.
@Fuhjcfffeewww
@Fuhjcfffeewww 3 ай бұрын
You know, Timmy didn’t change that much. A comment from another KZbin video pointed out that without Timmy’s intervention, he would have still grown up as a fairy obsessed villain. Just using stuff like an egg beater tied to a shoebox instead of advanced technology. Crocker still brought his misery and villainy onto himself. Timmy just changed the way he got that way.
@DoubleHCreations
@DoubleHCreations 3 ай бұрын
Do you know what terrifies me? Timmy could’ve gone down this path too…
@DeathMessenger1988
@DeathMessenger1988 2 ай бұрын
Who says he won't? There's a reason there are so many Fairy Oddparents Dark Fics (and Nickelodeon shows in general.)
@yogibear8683
@yogibear8683 3 ай бұрын
Now he knows how AJ feels.
@avch1209
@avch1209 3 ай бұрын
In the original show Timmy had a television show that was seen in the Fairy world, then Timmy no longer wanted to be on the show so that show was now about Crocker Does it mean that Crocker is still seen on television in the Fairy world,?
@starkiller1289
@starkiller1289 3 ай бұрын
Probably in that Secret Wish special when Timmy's timeloop wish was undone Crocker's mom was still alive after the rapid aging hit everyone in town which Crocker immediately pointed out she should be dead. Seeing how his Grandad/uncle is obessessed with Genies it's likely the whole family line is cursed with lowkey immortality if not a vastly extended lifespan until some other obsessive family can replace them.
@SuperFan02
@SuperFan02 3 ай бұрын
1:27 got me yelling “NOWAYNOWAYNOWAY” I share a birthday with the Fairy-Hunting Madman himself. My entire life has led me to this moment. Wow
@al3x.ander..f3ggit666
@al3x.ander..f3ggit666 2 ай бұрын
That's crazy
@ZeanG_
@ZeanG_ 3 ай бұрын
So in season 2, I want to imagine Hazel being so fed up with Crocker that she asks Cosmo and Wanda how he turned out like that, and eventually ask to experience what he experienced...as for what happens after, my imagination isn't bright enough to think far ahead enough
@Neku628
@Neku628 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't Timmy just wish that Crocker was no longer obsessed with fairies? I mean, Fairy World's giant wand still granted wishes even before Crocker existed.
@ninjafrog6966
@ninjafrog6966 3 ай бұрын
because apparently crocker’s belief in fairies is what powers all of fairy world. that’s a real thing btw
@Fuhjcfffeewww
@Fuhjcfffeewww 3 ай бұрын
That counts as mind control
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 3 ай бұрын
@@Fuhjcfffeewwwcould wish for unarguable proof that fairy’s don’t exist to appear on his desk, essentially gaslight Crocker into finally giving up
@Sishpoo
@Sishpoo 3 ай бұрын
@@ninjafrog6966at that point in the show, I’m pretty sure they never cared for any form of world building and just made the episode on that concept
@commentatingcommenter9178
@commentatingcommenter9178 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, I feel like something like the episode where he wished vickey was nice would happen if he did that.
@lizabee7791
@lizabee7791 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the reason why Vicky’s dad is afraid of Vicky because she reminds him of his brother
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that makes sense.
@avch1209
@avch1209 3 ай бұрын
When Crocker became a fairy in the episode when Timmy's father is a magician, did an "Anti Crocker" also emerge?
@sustelsuk
@sustelsuk 3 ай бұрын
Like an anti fairy that doesn’t believe in fairie? How wild is that
@MERRYCHRISTMAS1946
@MERRYCHRISTMAS1946 3 ай бұрын
Bro will be like : Why are we called anti-fairies even fairies don’t exist
@chromeothox3247
@chromeothox3247 3 ай бұрын
So Rekcorc
@MERRYCHRISTMAS1946
@MERRYCHRISTMAS1946 3 ай бұрын
@@avch1209 yeah
@justtj8085
@justtj8085 3 ай бұрын
​@@chromeothox3247 more like Lezned
@Neku628
@Neku628 3 ай бұрын
Technically, it's Cosmo's fault why Crocker lost his fairies. He turned on the mic that made Timmy Turner unknowingly expose the existence of fairies to everyone. Also, I wish I can watch "A New Wish", but I am barely getting by right now. So, no streaming for me! Also, wasn't it shown earlier that the big old fairy wand wasn't originally powered by Crocker's fanactism over fairies?
@tiffany2527
@tiffany2527 2 ай бұрын
It'll be on Netflix later this year.
@Madarrius
@Madarrius 2 ай бұрын
Is there Sonic Riders music playing in the background? That is unexpected.
@dspace4514
@dspace4514 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Crocker is the antagonist of the next season and that warrants Timmy's return? Like all imagine all of his 'enemies' somehow working together and Timmy is drawn to this.
@Songal18
@Songal18 3 ай бұрын
Mr. Crocker getting help from Fairies again would be a great finale to his story. Also I've been thinking lately but what kind of time loop do people think Timmy created when he went back to see Crocker as a kid, was this set in stone to be the catalyst(NOT TAKING WHAT THE SPARKY TIME LINE GAVE US) or before Timmy went back was it just Cosmo being Cosmo and revealed himself without any help? Would someone from that time remember some kid in a pink hat at one point and bring that up, thus confirming the time loop Timmy created?
@Numbuh8578
@Numbuh8578 3 ай бұрын
Fuck that dumb retcon in season 9, whoever wrote seasons 9 and 10 must've really hated the show and wanted to ruin it for everybody else
@joeldean2706
@joeldean2706 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely man
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 3 ай бұрын
At least the show was already handed down by the people who also worked for _Craig of the Creek._
@XJIcequeen
@XJIcequeen 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! I stopped thinking seasons 9 and 10 made sense and was at the end of its creativity when they gave Timmy a random girl to crush on as well as forget that Jorgen is married to the Tooth Fairy
@alexvaughan1013
@alexvaughan1013 3 ай бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, said retcon isn't canon. Like The Retcon of Skywalker!
@Numbuh8578
@Numbuh8578 2 ай бұрын
​​@@alexvaughan1013I'm convinced whoever was writing for Season 9-10 hated the show or something because no one can be this fucking dumb
@Lighthouse850
@Lighthouse850 3 ай бұрын
It honestly upsets me how the fandom automatically blames Timmy for all of this. Sure he revealed their existence to everyone, but he didn't know the microphones were turned on. So he didn't intentionally do anything wrong. Besides, he wanted to FIX Crocker's life, not destroy. To add insult to injury, he want to try again but Jorgen wouldn't let him. I think it was actually Cosmo and Jorgen who ruined his life, not Timmy. Sure Timmy wasn't the best god kid, but most of the time, he had good intentions with his wishes.
@al3x.ander..f3ggit666
@al3x.ander..f3ggit666 2 ай бұрын
And besides, Timmy wouldn't change much. For Crocker it's gonna happen regardless
@Lighthouse850
@Lighthouse850 2 ай бұрын
@@al3x.ander..f3ggit666 what do you mean?
@XJIcequeen
@XJIcequeen 3 ай бұрын
5:50 don’t worry pal. I’ve ignored the retcons as those are non-canon and Butch Hartman lost his touch at season 9
@gamingkingedwards8139
@gamingkingedwards8139 3 ай бұрын
Nah bro 7:33 that shit had me reeling, my guy was truly offended, manz has a vendetta with butch himself
@christiancorralejo8726
@christiancorralejo8726 3 ай бұрын
I actually think there is a moral to his story; even if a bad circumstance isn’t your fault, if you don’t learn to let go and move on you’ll only miss every chance to improve your life and only ruin it further.
@majormccoy2659
@majormccoy2659 3 ай бұрын
Crocker is just a tragic character and nothing ever goes his way. Lost his fairies at a young age due to Timmy and then gets attacked by a mob of people. Then he gets a crazy obsession about fairies that pretty much ruins his life and the lives of children. Then there was that one time he stopped believing in faries and was actually being happy and becoming a good person and that was taken away from him because his belief was powering the Big Wand. Poor guy can't catch a break.
@X_Nexus
@X_Nexus 3 ай бұрын
5:46 Thank you!! Thank you!! I know people say Chloe’s introduction was when the original FOP died, but this specific episode killed the original show for me. The utter disrespect to the lore with cheap jokes was just awful to watch.
@GanonGhidorah
@GanonGhidorah 3 ай бұрын
Well, Timmy's not fully responsible; Timmy's interaction was more or less a roundabout way of getting to the same conclusion. We saw that 60's Cosmo was just one word away from exposing the secret, when Timmy interfered; we also see Dog-Wanda turn the power to the microphones _off._ So had this been all that happened, Crocker would've been _saved._ But the problem is, Dog-Cosmo shows up and turns power to the mics back on, prompting 60's Parrot-Cosmo to reveal himself. But yeah, I like all the statements that Crocker is a product of the flawed Fairy-System. But when you think about it...While he's undoubtedly the most extreme example, he actually represents the _inevitable_ end-result. I think one of the biggest problems with Crocker is that his memory was erased; meaning that all the good-times with Cosmo and Wanda are gone; and since those were the only happy-memories he had, he's now left with _nothing._ And worse, the show establishes that this is inevitable for all godkids - whether they reveal their secret or simply grow-up and no longer _need_ their Fairies anymore. Their lives will literally _peak in childhood,_ and it will be all downhill from there. They'll have to face the cold, indifferent world _alone,_ with the people who arguably cared about them the most _ripped from their lives._ Plus, the hostile manner in which Jorgen did it, really goes to show how cold and indifferent the system is to the suffering it's causing. Jorgen really deserved a punch in the face for it. But even more than that, I think Crocker is also a commentary on society as a whole. When Crocker first presented his idea of proving Fairies exist, while he certainly wanted to abuse the power, he didn't seem as power-mad as he would later become. It sounded like had they actually given him the funding and he'd succeeded, he could have genuinely made the world a better place... Instead they laughed at him, and rejected him as a madman. That kind of stuff would make anyone bitter; he literally had the best years of his life ripped away from him and has nothing good about his life to revisit. And now, when he's making his presentation that could have easily put his life on easy-street, he loses everything _again._ So in the end, his goal to capture a Fairy is no longer about proving their existence and being validated for being right, or improving the world where he can. No, instead it's about _Revenge._ If Crocker took over the world with magic, he could have literally infinite avenues to improve society and make it a better place. But because society and all the people in it treated him so badly, he now wants to put society under his boot-heel. He turns the world into a dystopian wasteland where he controls all resources, and people are forced to live in tin-roofed shacks, wearing matching uniforms devoted to him. I think that's a commentary on how cruel life can be. From the perspective of an adult, Childhood can sometimes be viewed as life's _great lie._ A temporary period where your worries are trivial and easily solved and happiness and comfort are never far away. Then you're thrust unceremoniously into adulthood where you now have to fend for yourself and you find out how little the world outside your family and peer-group actually cares about you. The utter indifference to your suffering makes you feel even more alone. I'm pretty sure that for most people, if they were given the upper-hand and could exist completely free of consequences, the first thing they'd do is try to get-back at society as well.
@IgnisFelis
@IgnisFelis 3 ай бұрын
15:09 bro you just described how my dad treated me perfectly
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly 3 ай бұрын
4:51 that scream XD
@TubezThe1
@TubezThe1 3 ай бұрын
Bro literally spent 60 years chasing the magic of his childhood. That just sounds so tragic.
@EdwardSanchezProductions
@EdwardSanchezProductions 3 ай бұрын
I love The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker episode so much
@chaos4654
@chaos4654 3 ай бұрын
That retcon makes me wonder if Da Rulez are different for every individual Godkid, instead of Da Rulez being amended and altered as a whole.
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 ай бұрын
That...kinda makes sense.
@Jojo-be5im
@Jojo-be5im 3 ай бұрын
I like how as a kid Crocker kinda mirrors Timmy
@Stinkfly3
@Stinkfly3 3 ай бұрын
3:36 Actually, what happened was a result of fixed points in time. It’s heavily implied in the original timeline, Past!Cosmo accidentally revealed his own existence during Crocker’s speech.
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 3 ай бұрын
6:21 Theres a reason most fans like to pretend the seasons with Sparky in them never happened. It was just a stupid retcon that toom away rhe tragedy if Crocker's obsession with fairies.
@BlitzDemonGamer3032
@BlitzDemonGamer3032 3 ай бұрын
Proves MatPat's Film Theory that Da Rules is more like Da Book of Lies!!! is right
@maxmeidl4909
@maxmeidl4909 3 ай бұрын
You know, if I had a nickel for every time Timmy caused Crocker to lose Cosmo and Wanda by revealing their existence, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, and also in the SAME season.
@benuln8283
@benuln8283 2 ай бұрын
Well, at the end of "Crocker Shocker", Jorgen started gaining power from all the lunatics in the world so Crocker's belief isn't needed anymore....
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 3 ай бұрын
You can say that its really _Cosmo_ and _Jorgen's_ fault why Crocker is the way he is. The former for being a complete idiot and revealing to the public he has fairies and the latter for wiping Crocker's memories way too much that it drove him insane.
@starkiller1289
@starkiller1289 3 ай бұрын
In Jorgens defense Crocker apparently had a perfect photographic mind since he continued to remember that fairies exist which is something Da Rules don't allow so he had to. Though why he didn't just wipe them with his wand when the 3rd time the neuralizer failed is a mystery.
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 2 ай бұрын
Crocker's condition most likely falls under the same conditions as true love. When the person believes very strongly in their feelings magic can't get rid of it. The best case scenario is what happen when Vicky became a good person that meanness has to go somewhere so you would be making another Crocker if not worse.
@tarasantisteban7881
@tarasantisteban7881 3 ай бұрын
2:42- I always assumed (and I am still sticking to it btw) that Vick was Vicky's dad who ultimately had a change of heart as he grew older.😢 So much more angst in this show than I remember!!!😱
@avch1209
@avch1209 3 ай бұрын
Will the photo of Crocker in a red dress that Timmy put on the Internet still be on the Internet?
@RichiViBritannia
@RichiViBritannia 3 ай бұрын
Love this Sonic Adventure 2 background music
@occothefalsepanda
@occothefalsepanda 3 ай бұрын
I assume he constantly failed timmy in an attempt to make his life worse, making sure if he did have faries, that he would keep them long enough for crocker to find them.
@שלוברטי
@שלוברטי 3 ай бұрын
Not just timmy, he was trying to make children miserable in general, it's was just easier to do so to Timmy That's why he became a teacher!
@Juanman8321
@Juanman8321 3 ай бұрын
At 13:55 you asked for proof that crocker’s mom was also part of the blame. Truthfully it’s because of her he was miserable when he was young. She only wants to support him so he can leave.
@vanguardplays3418
@vanguardplays3418 3 ай бұрын
the episode Crocker Shocker is an episode I really hated. I felt so bad for Crocker in that one after seeing him be cured of his fairy obsession only to relapse because the show needs him to
@ominimonzwartalterb5526
@ominimonzwartalterb5526 3 ай бұрын
20:55 "TURNER! I would like you to meet...MY MINI ME!"
@JoesAnimationHub
@JoesAnimationHub 3 ай бұрын
"KEVIN!!! ...why don't you and the giant laser get a room for heavens sake."
@salliemagnaye1403
@salliemagnaye1403 3 ай бұрын
Why didn’t Timmy just wish that he never went to the past and met kid Crocker?
@icedragonaftermath
@icedragonaftermath 3 ай бұрын
Oh, Timmy was prevented from doing so by Jorge n. Not sure why officially, but fans tend to prefer the interpretation that because fairy magic used to be powered by belief in fairies, Crocker's level of obsessiveness was basically the main power source for the Big Wand in Fairy World. So Jorgen basically had to prevent Timmy from undoing what he did for Fairy World to keep running. I think that only really applied to the present Jorgen though and I think past Jorgen just didn't like a future kid undoing the mind-wipe he had just done, but I could be wrong.
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 ай бұрын
I like you honks and fast forward instead of mentioning Timmy’s Parents’ names, since they don’t even have names.
@שלוברטי
@שלוברטי 3 ай бұрын
They have ones, they said their names in the episode in which they were ghost hunters
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 ай бұрын
I like the idea that, before Crocker dies, Cosmo and Wanda come to him and tell him that fairies do exist and that he didn't waste his life. Although I wouldn't put it past him to have some Batman style contingency plan that puts Crocker's brain in a robot body so he lives forever in the event that happens.
@youdontknowsponge6218
@youdontknowsponge6218 3 ай бұрын
What if Crocker got his fairies back later on for a short time or that S9 episode was the original way Crocker lost his fairies and the March 15 episode takes place after that episode with Timmy causing Crocker to lose his fairies at an earlier point?
@gamercouleur4625
@gamercouleur4625 Ай бұрын
That's exactly the theory I was thinking of! Because S9 has to be canon since Sparky was referenced in ANW, so I imagine that the theory would be that Crocker first had to be bad with his fairies, losing them as in the S9 episode then getting them back for some unknown reason, perhaps his babysitter came along then. He then became good with Cosmo and Wanda and the events of the S3 episode unfold. I think it makes sense because Timmy mentions that he knows Crocker had Cosmo and Wanda as a kid in the S9 episode, but he can only know that if the S3 episode took place. Thanks for reading!
@DoubleHCreations
@DoubleHCreations 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember the second season of the ghost and Molly McGee, and how the main character tried to convince ghost hunters that not all ghosts were bad? What if Hazel tried to confront Denzel Crocker about the same thing?
@cofagrigusfan24
@cofagrigusfan24 3 ай бұрын
4:17 I always thought that that was a moment of his wishes being removed that he wished to look more normal
@Fuhjcfffeewww
@Fuhjcfffeewww 3 ай бұрын
That’s a good and sad theory
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 2 ай бұрын
makes sense since the other memebr sof his family have the exact same look
@rileyanthony
@rileyanthony 3 ай бұрын
@TheRoundtable I think your pet cat is so adorable 🥰
@IndigoApocalypse2051
@IndigoApocalypse2051 3 ай бұрын
I like how you kept the interrupted name gag.
@tomcurl8034
@tomcurl8034 3 ай бұрын
Croker’s origin is actually an eternal causality loop which causes both the past and present versions of Jorgen to declare that nobody is allowed to interfere with it thus making it a fixed point in time.
@Getlucky12
@Getlucky12 3 ай бұрын
It would be really cool if we get a Crocker redemption arc
@fawkewe
@fawkewe 3 ай бұрын
Mr Crocker actually makes ALOT of money as School teacher. Or at the very least is able to use his intelligence to embezzle funds the government gives the school to him. Problem is he spends all of it on stuff to hunt Fairies. If he didn’t, he would easily be able to live on his own. Not to mention hes super over qualified to be a school teacher anyway, and is only there because of the proximity to children. He literally was roomates with Steven Hawking.
@jamesrgamesoffical
@jamesrgamesoffical 3 ай бұрын
The magic wand being powered by crocker was already a recon to a previous episode
@SIG7Pro
@SIG7Pro 3 ай бұрын
25:34 bro turned into a hologram
@TysonMeade-u1c
@TysonMeade-u1c 3 ай бұрын
I agree Hazel is a nice good character who has positive vibes who would make Denzel crocker to have a change of heart to finally get validation and respect he deserves as an NPC that would be a perfect ending for Crocker's character helping the fairy's for a change I hope they do it in season 2 of fairly odd parents a new wish to give him a happy ending
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 3 ай бұрын
Seeing that even after decades Crocker is still the same is pretty sad. He's a perfect example of why kids forgetting about fairies when they grow up is a necessary evil.
@BrimBlam
@BrimBlam 3 ай бұрын
If Kevin somehow managed to return to the new series I can see an episode about Crockers resentments towards him (if they decide his life didnt get ruined like his uncles)
@wellingtonsh1
@wellingtonsh1 3 ай бұрын
There is something that was forgotten in the report. Crocker was first a professor at Yale (where he was fired for using research funds to create a laboratory to hunt fairies) then he went to Colegio Comunitario de Baltimore, where he was using Baltimou's material in his obsession and only then had to accept a job in an elementary school.
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 3 ай бұрын
Crocker's worsening character post season 5 is one of the many reasons I don't watch further than season 5 (plus, it's where my DVD collection ends, but I also have no plans on getting beyond season 5 anyway), as the show really just went downhill. Even Peri being the great character he is isn't enough for me to watch his baby years in the form of seasons 6-10.
@garrettviewegh9028
@garrettviewegh9028 3 ай бұрын
How ironic it must be, that Timmy crated half of his villains? If he’d never gone back to the past to prevent Croker from going crazy, he wouldn’t have become the insane fairy hunter we know.
@hqzdn0032
@hqzdn0032 3 ай бұрын
if Timmy didn't go back in time crocker would still be crazy because Cosmo was the one to make crocker crazy in the original timeline
@gooeydude574
@gooeydude574 3 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it, it reminds me of the Captain Underpants book series and how George and Harold are responsible for many of their villains
@youdontknowsponge6218
@youdontknowsponge6218 3 ай бұрын
@@hqzdn0032 What if the Season 9 episode was the original way and the March 15th episode is when Timmy and Cosmo f'ed up the timeline so Crocker loses them earlier?
@Robinx1985
@Robinx1985 3 ай бұрын
At the very Least Hazel could see if she could fix some of Crocker's life in present day like giving him a hybrid appearance permanently of what he looks like in a new wish and what he would have looked like if Timmy had stayed in the present at the time.
@jasondavis2381
@jasondavis2381 3 ай бұрын
"The Tragedy of Denzel Crocker" sounds more fitting.
@rileyanthony
@rileyanthony 3 ай бұрын
@TheRoundtable I would say Crocker I genuinely felt bad for because half of his life was screwed over by Timmy but him choosing his obsession over anything else in life is his own fault can relate to how this guy feels as I’ve left I’ve have just been taking Ls sense 2020-current day
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 2 ай бұрын
That Re-Do Watch REALLY would've come in handy...
@transylvani600
@transylvani600 3 ай бұрын
You could say Jorgen decided to give Crocker another chance, since he technically did not reveal his Fairly OddParents and threw in Sparky as a way of apologizing for memory wiping & letting an angry mob chase him around , most likely it was the tooth fairy that made jargon do this since he ruined Crocker’s teeth & you know how to tooth fairy gets when it comes to teeth , I think Jorgen just made up the rule about 11 years old No longer needing godparents ,because maybe he actually thought therapy would actually help him, it actually did in one episode unfortunately, also the episode Jorgen, had the bright idea of having fairy world powered by Crockers belief in fairies
@nerdynanny
@nerdynanny 3 ай бұрын
Flashing warning for 25:50 til the end. Sorry your avatar is glitching man-- giving this a few views and sharing to help! The glitching could trigger photosensitive folk, you might want to add a warning if you can.
@Crow_Rat
@Crow_Rat 3 ай бұрын
2:39 WILLARD POSTER??? LIVE LAUGH LOVE WILLARD
@uchihajunior5648
@uchihajunior5648 3 ай бұрын
That also remember me of the episode timmy wished to never have been born, and it turned out crocker's life was so much better.
@raven3067
@raven3067 3 ай бұрын
Tragic how Timmy literally ruined Crocker's life.
@Nyghtking
@Nyghtking 3 ай бұрын
Honestly they probably should have just had Crocker takes meds to calm down, had his life progress to be better, but they could keep the fair bits by having him miss his medication, so it becomes a quirk he has as a well respected scientist instead of the sad man he is now. They could even include bits where he has an assistant that goes around with him and when he has one of his "episodes" his assistant runs off to get his meds.
@abimelechperez1756
@abimelechperez1756 3 ай бұрын
Mr crocker boutta get that doofenshmirtz and ice king treatment he becoming a joke villain to a hero
@majormccoy2659
@majormccoy2659 3 ай бұрын
You know it's honestly it's really sad and annoying that neither Timmy nor his fairies try to help Crocker out or try to make his life better after learning his backstory and knowing they're the ones responsible for the way Crocker is.
@ZeebouSpace
@ZeebouSpace 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really hope they redeem him in A New Wish.
@DARKWHISPERER-ze8lo
@DARKWHISPERER-ze8lo 3 ай бұрын
I don't know who has a more tragic backstory Crocker or Doofensshmirtz
@manoftheusajones5147
@manoftheusajones5147 3 ай бұрын
At least there is the Fact that Timmy tried to Help him!
@moonlighthaven7605
@moonlighthaven7605 3 ай бұрын
just by looking at the thumbmail i just realized Whats holding up his glasses aside from the bridge of his nose if his ears are on his neck?? are they actually goggles?
@micahwilliams1449
@micahwilliams1449 3 ай бұрын
Without Crocker believing in fairies. Fairyworld will fall apart
@smokey5995.1
@smokey5995.1 3 ай бұрын
Just thought about this now but what if the recent crocker is still with in his mother's house was because he was supposed to inherit it. It would explain a couple of things in the show but because he's obsessed with fairy so much he missed out on the mortgage and have to go sell his home which would explain why he's there in a New wish. The show could easily prove me wrong but it does explain a few things.
@Neku628
@Neku628 3 ай бұрын
Sparky is here as a puppy. Just how long does it take for a fairy or in this fairy dog to reach adulthood. I mean, in the OG live action Fairy God Parents movie, Poof was still a baby and just started talking when Timmy was like 24-years-old.
@vampiricn1ght
@vampiricn1ght 3 ай бұрын
My favorite Crocker bit is the Secret Wish. When Timmy loses his fairies and time gets moved up 50 years, he's nonchalant about talking with Timmy because its so obvious he has no fairies by that point. He's just casually talking with Timmy and going on about how Fairies are definitely real, but Timmy was now a dead end since he's definitely never heard of fairies and isn't a godkid anymore
@markflowers2774
@markflowers2774 3 ай бұрын
Yeah well Dimsdale University became Dimsdale Elementary which is the same school that Timmy Turner attended school at!!
@flamingeel3196
@flamingeel3196 3 ай бұрын
as kids we laugh at the villain but as you grow up, you'd understand the villains pain
@PrincessPikachu421
@PrincessPikachu421 3 ай бұрын
Watching this video made me feel bad for mr. Crocker and I hope he gets some sort of closure in a new wish I feel that will give his character hopefully a good ending
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 ай бұрын
More SU videos please! Love your content guys ❤❤❤❤
@TysonMeade-u1c
@TysonMeade-u1c 3 ай бұрын
And what would be amazing that denzel crocker makes amands with Timmy Turner and everyone he knew even principal jareldyin and his mother if she did passed away then he would go to his grave and apologize for treating her terrible and acknowled she tried to be a good mother and Cosmo Wanda peri ❤
@matthewfredericks25
@matthewfredericks25 3 ай бұрын
I'm kinda surprised crocker didn't build a time machine to fix his life
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