We Talked To Napa About The Filters… Here’s The Update!

[@Galfrid]

China can have state-of-the-art facilities and create good products, but why do American companies always set up production in China and not the US? Why do we keep economic growth out of our country? IT'S ALWAYS COST. How will OUR economy improve, if nothing is made here? 🤔

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

I agree

[@michaelrichards4000]

Amen

[@interceptor7905]

Because CEOs need to get billions in their pockets and screw everyone else in the name of "efficiency" and "money saving"!If it is made there to save money it should be significantly cheaper!This is the way to expose corporate lying mafia!

[@Over_Taxed_USA]

Truth

[@Hellcat71782]

If they were made here you’d post a comment crying it’s too expensive and you’re gonna buy something cheaper. Can’t win

[@scottscornerrd]

No company will come in and talk down their product, it’s their job to sell their product. But hats off to you for cutting open filters to actually prove what’s inside, that’s what everyone wants to see.

[@thooks1234]

That's right, no representative will talk down their employer's product but..... I have learned ONE thing in 32 years as a consulting engineer - there's companies that send product reps out to talk to you, inform you and yes, sell you, and there's companies that don't. Guess which product/company I know the most about???

[@landontesar3070]

I expected the total area of filter media would come into the conversation but did not hear it.

[@duckdodgers8106]

I'm sure the NAPA folks were sincere. In my professional life I worked extensively with Chinese suppliers. My experience is that they will ALWAYS try to cut corners. The level of oversight required to keep high quality standards is huge and ongoing. I'll resist the temptation to rant.😠

[@captaintoyota3171]

Yeah im with you. We should be pushing customers to pay lil extra for USA made support our economy

[@petesmitt]

Chinese are notoriously devious; many stories about producing top quality for samples, then downgrading quality ongoing; another common trick for online sales is to use western business provided product photo's with their ads but ship junk quality Chinese made fakes; I report massive quantities of fake ads on ebay and Amazon but the ads stay up; obviously they like the income..

[@Mark-rw3kw]

@@captaintoyota3171 All the major filter companies are multinational companies, and they make filters all over the world. According to the Wix website, they make filters in the USA, Canada, Poland, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico, Ukraine, and China.

[@ironmanmachine]

Why do you think Napa has to go through all the hoops to pull filters from stores and production lines for testing. I'll stick with the Wix.

[@Mark-rw3kw]

@@ironmanmachine The same reason why Wix pulls filters from their production lines to test them. In the case of Napa they are a distributor of all auto parts and I doubt they make anything themselves. But not all Wix filters are made by Wix either. Wix is not owned by a German company Mann-Hummel that owns several other filter manufacturers.

[@orionschroeder9401]

I WILL NEVER USE a Napa Gold oil filter which is made in China. You can choose to believe these suits all you want, bottom line is this is ALL ABOUT PROFIT for these company's! Making oil filters in Mexico, and China is significantly cheaper then made in the U.S.A. this is the ONLY REASON why it's done!

[@kbjcda]

Napa Gold filters are still WIX in most parts of the country. A few years ago WIX was bought out by Mann & Hummel (a well respected OE filter manufacturer). The reason they had to add another supplier (not change suppliers) was that Mann & Hummel could not fill the demand starting during the plandemic but continuing after that. So Napa was forced to add another source or not have filters for their stores to sell. It's only in the Southeast and midwest I believe. We still have Wix exclusively in the west.

[@kennygee2715]

@@kbjcda Plandemic, indeed.

[@MrPaulis47]

I agree

[@Killersam776]

I get everyone wants the made in america stuff. But honestly that doesn’t mean shit. Plenty of stuff made in america is junk. Cars made in america aren’t the most quality reliable vehicles.

[@orionschroeder9401]

@@Killersam776 means a great deal to me to employ American’s! Not people who are paid next to nothing and used nearly as slave labour!

[@michaeledwards6335]

Yep, sales got to you. I have a heavy truck shop. I have so many truck filters that leaked and customer complaints I dropped them. There was only one reason to go to Chinese, and it was NOT due to supply needs. After 45 years in this business sales department is the last team i trust.

[@CL500MBZ]

They're gonna take care of you? Like replace a damaged engine or blown head gasket or refund the price of the filter? I doubt any of these companies will take care of anything unless they lose in a lawsuit.

[@nosurfenougheddie]

Excellent points!

[@1983dmd]

Exactly what I thought !! Try having them replace those big costly items...They will run ...These reps were on a rescue mission...bla,bla,bla...

[@michaelrichards4000]

Exactly

[@JohnS-yo5yt]

I'm gonna tell you that YES if the filter blows an engine, NAPA will stand behind that and pay for an engine. I worked for a company years ago that sold radiators. Had an issue with a customer where they had installed a radiator on a brand new rebuilt motor that the shop had rebuilt. I got a call about the engine blowing up due to overheating. As the factory rep I got a return authorization to have the radiator sent back to our facility back for inspection. When it arrived I received a call from our warranty department asking if I had seen the unit prior to them shipping it back, which I had not, so he sent me some photo's of the unit. It was swollen like it had been over pressurized and the entire neck where the cap is was completey missing, and you could see that the solder had gotten so hot it melted. This was the result of either a head gasket blowing, a stuck thermostat, or a stuck pressure cap. When I went to visit the shop with the NAPA rep and to break the news to them that his wasn't caused by the radiator, it was simply the weak link that took the brunt of the problem, I told the rep before we walked in, that from what the picture showed there would most likely be a dent in the hood where the cap hit from the overpressurized system. Sure enough we walked into the shop the truck was still there with the hood up. As we walked over to it, I pointed to a spot where you could see where that cap hit and created a dent in the underhood of the hood. Long story short it tuned out to be a $3.00 NAPA thermostat that had failed, and NAPA paid a $3700. engine bill no questions asked. Of course they did test the thermostat to determine it had failed, but they paid the bill. So NAPA will stand behind what they sell!

[@stevemccooleq]

The chance of losing an engine from any oil filter is highly, highly unlikely. Can it happen? Sure, anything can happen but what is likely. Too many people here need to just change their oil and find something else in life to worry about.

[@swgarage8868]

The question from video #1 was, "Is it a WIX filter in the NAPA box? " This video followed up on that question with the best example of a non answer I've heard in a long time. I know this (NAPA ARE YOU LISTENING? ) I learned back in the mid/ late 1980s when I was involved with racing/engine building/etc. that WIX was #1 in oil filter quality. I also learned that NAPA filters were WIX filters. We used NAPA filters exclusively. I have used NAPA filters for almost 40 years with utmost confidence. I do not trust NAPA filters anymore. After hearing how the suits came rolling in to try to justify the change, I see what NAPA is trying to pull. The problem is the argument. They changed their argument. They now claim and talk in that. "it is good as" verbiage. They used to talk about their filters 20ish years ago with the argument and attitude "We are the best, we can prove it, and no one's even close in quality " When they start trying to explain themselves and it turns into a word salad, you know somethings up. SORRY NAPA. BAD MOVE

[@elcheapo5302]

Laura can spew all the marketing speak she wants; she can keep her chinese filters.

[@patrioticimmigrant8817]

Well said sir.

[@Logjammer69]

I don’t support child/slave labor.🇺🇸

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

Unfortunately it's all we have right now. Even Mann Hummel has 5 factories in China. And PGI also has a factory in North Carolina I believe. But I'm just here to pass on information. I completely understand where you are coming from.👍

[@elcheapo5302]

@@theroyaltyautoservice I appreciate the position you're in as a shop owner. But as a DIY'r, I can take the time to check the box and see where it's made before I purchase. And I always do. Thanks for the reply.

[@jameslewis1175]

Lmfao ur not wrong

[@BryanPresnell]

I'm sorry but this latest video sounds like a puff piece if i ever heard one. In the first video Royalty speaks truth to power and it sounds like "Power" gave them a call back, possibly with a team of lawyers behind them and told them to make this rebuke video or else. The only new info we have now that we didn't know in the last video is this.... NAPA stated that they will use the cheapest manufacturer for their filters going forward as long as it meets the "OEM specs", whatever that means. I don't believe that WIX couldn't provide enough filters for NAPAs demand. Its more like WIX told NAPA that they could not make a filter as cheap as NAPA wanted it to be and still maintain the WIX quality standards. If your American, Support American jobs, or it may be your job they come for next.

[@TheKraken2019]

Agreed 100%

[@aciddiver1978]

I think you are on to something here. And yes, support America. Im Norwegian, we have to put our own countries first.

[@newbernbears]

Exactly what happened a load of BS corporate speak from NAPA and they fell for it. Sad. NAPA sucks.

[@johnnyboy22]

They haven’t been able to supply their vendors. That is why you’ll find wix putting any of their brands they can in their box, manufactured all over the world

[@prsgiulianlo]

Would you rather use a WIX?

[@jaygold4467]

Returning my Napa Gold filter. It's made in Vietnam. I ordered an American made Purolator 1. Napa is going to learn the hard way that if they are going to ship American jobs over seas people aren't going to buy their products. Hello American built Purolator!

[@dare248]

WELL SAID!!!!!!

[@Offroader451-rm5jz]

I'm with you.

[@PeterV-]

A lawyer definitely visited with Laura and Ty. You can tell by the repeated words of "It's a Napa Gold filter in the box." Which was said over and over... Um yes, sure, but what does that mean? Because Napa does not make their own filters, so actually, No it's not a Napa filter in the box. Legally Napa can't say that, hence this video was approved by their lawyer. A lot of words said in this 17 minute video but not much was actually said. At the end of the day, WIX cheaped out and Premium Guard makes excellent filters and Napa filters are good depending on who their supplier is, which changes every few years. That's proven on the many videos dissecting used WIX/PG filters. For what it's worth, which isn't much, nearly every brand says "Meets or exceeds OEM" which time and time again has been proven with many brands to not be the case. Also it should be pointed out that most of these filter companies don't make their own filters, they source them from very large manufacturers, i.e. Champion Labs, Mann-Hummel, and various large Asian manufacturers, some which have factories that make excellent filters, Premium Guard being a prime example. At the moment Chin and Vietnam are producing some of the most consistent and highest quality filter on the market (Premium Guard/MicroGuard). Sad to say, but American manufacturers (WIX, Champion labs/Fram) can learn from Asia on how to make a good filter with good quality control, oh how times have changed! Although Champion labs does make an excellent premium filter with the Fram Endurance! and LOL at the dirty WIX filter not being an issue because the filter will catch the dirt anyways, glad my brand new WIX filter comes pre-dirtied. What a joke.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Not a fan of the 33977 and 33978 wix filters for Deere, since I started noticing the mann-hummel imprint a few years ago. and a few other Deere style filters like those with the locating notches. The metal edges are thinner and I've had some sealing issues because of it. They should have left those alone. Not that I'm a huge fan of Baldwin but at least they didn't change and have a decent sealing lip like the wix used to have. Big fan of Mann and other oe suppliers for my personal vws and other euro cars,but they are missing the mark with those Deere filters.

[@ChiefDLK]

How can Napa not say legally it is their filter? I don't think you understand how most things are made or the legality of the whole thing. Many companies contract other companies to make their items. It is still their item manufactured to their specifications. That is why even if you find a knock off of an item from a different company and it is manufactured in the same place it can still be substandard. Places like Napa has QC and QA process that the other companies do not. My point is, you don't know shit.

[@shaunofthedead3000]

This is the first change for NAPA Gold filters in over 4 decades. So no. Not every two years depending on manufacturer. As a store manager this hit hard. When just before covid and during we started having WIX failures where the seal between the base plate and the cans leaked was when I could see there was a problem coming. Mann made a decision during covid to build and open a plant in Mexico. Since then we've had more defects than in the last 20 years combined. PGI has had better quality control so far than previous Mann/Wix products. And so far no defects. We'll be watching, you can bet money. In my store there are several numbers I currently order and stock OEM only. The price is nearly the same.

[@PeterV-]

@@ChiefDLK NAPA does not manufacture their oil filters. They never have. PGi currently manufactures their filters. I don't think you understood the depth of my post.

[@PeterV-]

@@shaunofthedead3000 PGi has been producing some of the finest and highest quality filters on the market for the past 10 years. Their filters are often cut open and inspected on various forums and KZbin channels and they always look in great condition. Mann/Wix/Purolator has had many more defects. I would stick with PGi or any of it's partners, Pronto/Parts Plus/EcoGard/MicroGard etc

[@cw2048]

Wix-Made in USA** Napa-Made in China Same price. I’m sticking with Wix. **I did double check the country of origin on the Wix oil filters of the 4 cars and 1 mower that I have. All canister filters are made in USA. The 2018 Tacoma cartridge style Wix is indeed made in China.

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

The WIX are what’s on our shelves. Hopefully people don’t take this as us promoting. We are just giving out information for people to have. That’s the point of the video. Thanks for watching!

[@1983dmd]

Yes, we have to help our country ( or Canada ).

[@williamhaggerson5490]

Wix is not only made in the US any longer. When Mann Hummel bought them, many of their filters are ow manufactured outside the US. In fact, no filters are made in Gastonia, NC any longer, except a few specialty filters. Labor costs and antiquated equipment has forced the move.

[@Mark-rw3kw]

Wix is now owned by MANN+HUMMEL International GmbH, a German company. The Wix website says they have plants in USA, Canada, Poland, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico, Ukraine, and China. As time goes on, I think you will see fewer Wix filters made in the USA. MANN+HUMMEL also owns Purolator, Filtron, and Wix, as well as MANN+HUMMEL branded filters.

[@michaelallen1432]

Totally with you. While cost is an issue, the I'll go with the US made product whenever feasible.

[@lanwickum]

I have a BS in diesel tech. Took a 400 level fuels and lubes class. Worked for CAT for 7 years as a tech. Deere for a bit, mine for bit, had my own business for a bit. Now farm with 30 plus of my own pieces of equipment. Learned about micro ratings and such. Nominal and absolute are very important. Say a fuel filter spec is 3 mircon, not all 3 micon is the same. 3 micron nominal and 3 micron absolute is very different. Aftermarket guy will say they meet OEM specs at 3 micron even though they are nominal and not absolute. It is what they don't say that you often need to listen to the most. Tough to know all the question to ask. They are trained in what to say and not say. I am almost sure of this. Fram will stand behind their filters. I have seen them pay to replace whole fuel systems after their filter blow out contaminating the whole system, more than once. I won't use them because they will blow out. OEM I have not seen blow out. That said, there are times I use NAPA Gold. I believe they are better than many. As an example. CAT 1R-0749 used even by many aftermarket guys is 2 micron rating and 3-4um absolute. CAT 1R-0762 is 3 micron rating with 15 um absolute. Try to find an absolute micron rating for any NAPA or wix filter. These are fuel filters that I consider absolute micron very critical for modern diesel engines. I just learned more on Fleetguard site. Absolute is considered 98.6% is their absolute. CAT is 99% or 99.8% for absolute? Nominal is under 98.6% for fleetguard. So, absolute and nominal does not always mean the same between manufactures. That is again why I prefer OEM.

[@Swampfox42]

Have you read up on bypass systems? I just installed the dual bypass AMSOIL system on my duramax

[@royderouin7510]

Thank you for your insight, really appreciate it

[@tedgerstenslager2949]

@@Swampfox42 I had an amsoil system given to me, I did not like the fact that the supply to the main and by pass filters was a #10 hose, when the filter opening on my powerstroke is about 1.1/4 or more. I went with a FS2500 system, and all it feeds is the bypass filter alone, and it is a 2 micron wound type filter.. But as far as the results using a by pass, the oil stays soot free way longer than without. Been on for over 100K.

[@kyledyck4222]

Some companies (wix often does) list beta ratios that give a good idea of what their nominal and absolute ratings are and what percentage they’re rated at. Baldwin has a great tech chat that puts you in contact with one of a few of their engineers in Colorado that can give you exact specs on their filters and answer questions

[@N-M424]

Where are you getting your information from on the 1R-0749 and the 1R-0762? The information I have indicates these two filters have the same filtration performance.

[@swampyfox8688]

Great job educating us all Royalty!! Thank you. Ya know what? I went down and bought 2 OEM Mazda filters for my RX8 thanks to your 1st video. Frankly, I don’t trust anyone who’s selling me anything anymore. But I’ll trust OEM to at least ensure OEM spec’s.

[@nickb1488]

I am a retired shop owner and will only use quality name brand filters. Sounds like it was corporate bs damage control meeting. Thanks for updating.

[@gerardmccarthy2432]

Agree 100% Napa are competing in the marketplace as all others

[@mediocreman2]

This sounds like those windshield salesman that tell you the chinese windshields are just as good as the US and German made windshields.

[@ginocukale9348]

Dont feel comfortable using NAPA Gold. The whole thing sounded funny. Gotta go with my gut feeling.

[@rumleyrum5839]

It's good to hear stuff like this and also that the manufacturers will support shops like yours. I know that some companies won't show the same concern for the consumer though. For example, I had a Purolator filter that had something wrong with the cartridge threads and it wouldn't quit screw down completely to seal the filter to the block. I didn't catch it because it seemed to be on tight, but the oil blew out all over when the engine was started. Fortunately, I had enough oil and a second filter to refill the engine and the second filter worked fine. I did call Purolator's customer service number to discuss the issue and a nice lady answered and said that she needed to transfer me to the oil filter division. I ended up with some foreign help desk and the guy could barely speak and understand English. He transferred me to a "supervisor" who, after I explained why I was calling said something I didn't understand and hung up on me. Needless to say I will never buy another Purolator product and will suggest others don't either. Also, I agree with Sherwood that the industry needs more honesty.

[@gubbah]

Just the fact that they actually came and visited you, means your channel/business has credibility. Good work.

[@jacksarebetter]

They came because of the pressure seeing the 100k views and all the comments

[@faxmen09]

No such thing as Wix "gold" Never was. It's Napa Gold and Standard Wix labeled. They used to be the same filters, but now Napa has found a new supplier for their "Gold" filters, and it's Premium Guard/PGI, that simple. At 12:48 of vid, those are bypass valves, not "anti-drainback" valves. Adbv are at the base and made of either nitrile or silicone, the latter better for extended intervals. Honestly in my observation, this didn't clear much up.

[@dogdooley4495]

NAPA never advertised their filters as Wix. People figured it out. Vendors change suppliers all the time, so if you want a Wix, buy a Wix.

[@LarsDcCase]

Another good video. 👍 I have a '82 F150 with 466,000 miles. 300 C.I. engine. Still does not burn any oil. Also, a '84 Crown Vic with 432,000 miles. Also does not burn any oil. Just don't drive it any more because body is rusted out. A '93 Dodge D250 with 554,000 miles. Still purrs like a Tomcat in a creamery. (Cummins) ( I have rebuilt the body on this one) Also a couple of newer vehicles with under 200,000 km. My favourite oil filters are Hastings, Baldwin, and Wix. I have used all kinds of oil filters with Fram being the most common. Engine oil all makes as long as it had the necessary specs. I change my oil and filter every 5,000 miles. On my Cummins every 8,000 miles. I maintain that if one does not overheat the engine, warm it up before driving and cool it down before shut off, engines will last a long time with everything else being equal.

[@Z7691-g1c]

1. You heard from Napa damage control skilled individuals in convincing you they did no wrong. 2. The guy visited the factory in China to inspect. My goodness having been in the business for a long time you can bet those factories run like clock work when the American inspector comes there. 3. How many American customers come to your shop wanting a Chinese one? Shops should remember the men and women who scraficed in the milrary and buy American.(Hint visit Walter Reed Hospital-with the Napa Rep) 4. Many Napa stores are independent with what appears to be gross lack of standards and not standing behind products. Amen

[@genericsomething]

I fix and maintain my own car. I stopped shopping at NAPA, because there was a drop in quality, and the people in my local store are jerks. The last major part I bought from NAPA was an alternator. It took 3 tries to get a good one. I also noticed that they were starting to source more parts from China. When I moved, I tried the NAPA store in my new town only to run into bad attitudes behind the counter. Now, I use O'Reilly, Walmart (for fluids and filters), and various websites online for crucial OEM parts.

[@JodieMix]

I work at one. It’s awful.

[@timweb1510]

@@genericsomethingcall Napa customer service and it’s all offshore. They must hate employing Americans

[@Andyw2008]

Just remember, they have a job to prove that their products are quality. A company like wix would almost certainly up their product production to keep Napa as a customer. Seems like it’s more $$$ than anything else.

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

Totally get what you’re saying. It always comes down to trust at the end of the day. The main point of this was to give the information that they gave us so that people are aware of the situation. 👍

[@Andyw2008]

@@theroyaltyautoservice I appreciate you taking the time to meet with them. It is cool that they felt it was necessary to come talk with you. You don’t get that anymore.

[@Mark-rw3kw]

I suspect it was related to the fact that Wix was recently purchased by MANN+HUMMEL, a large multi-national company based in Germany. MANN+HUMMEL probably did not want to supply NAPA anymore (or at least not at the same prices they were charging) since they sell filters under the MANN+HUMMEL, Purolator, Filtron, and Wix brand names.

[@michaelallen1432]

It's always $$$. Always.

[@kbjcda]

@@Mark-rw3kw you are partly correct. Wix / Mann & Hummel still supplies the majority of Napa Filters. Napa added another supplier (PGI) in certain parts of the country because Wix cannot fill the demand. You'd think they could up production but apparently not. For heavy duty filters, Napa has switched to Baldwin or Donaldson, but again only in certain parts of the country. Where I am in the west all Napa Gold filters are still Wix.

[@remarkable224]

The excess glue on the outside of the filter that easily flakes off is a major issue. When the bypass valve opens, those glue flakes will get sucked into the engine. Why is everybody ignoring this? It's much more than just a cosmetic issue.

[@markbober9709]

All I have to say about this is that it seems pretty likely and obvious that the major corporation coerced this shop in acquiescing and reversing their prior video. They’re smart enough to not demand removal because that would look bad but this video just screams damage control and lawsuit avoidance as loud as it possibly can. I don’t believe a word of this and honestly don’t think this guy does either. I think he’s just doing what everybody in the auto repair business learns early on. CYA.

[@aboyandhisdog]

As I recall, the big complaint from LN Engineering regarding the Napa 1042 filter (Porsche) was that the new filters had less surface area of the supply holes on the new Chinese filters. They feel the flow will not be sufficient as in the previous filters. I don't think they disputed quality, but rather the new design and flow rates. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you, -Tom.

[@justintx75]

Thank you for making this video, I have been running these NAPA filters for many years. I have noticed some changes in the last 12-18 months. Again thanks for taking the time to do this.....

[@SleepysAutomotive]

Grew up with Fram and used for Years without question. Switched to Wix a few years ago and will stick with them for now. We cant afford to be brand loyal anymore. Thank you for the update video.

[@littlet7556]

I cut open a Purotator BOSS filter. Its high quality, and it took some real work to cut the media away from the center core. The filter media is top quality, too. Changing from Toyota to Purolator

[@BookAutowerks]

There are Wix/Mann+Hummel filters that are made in China, and others are not. You have to look at the box for each filter if you care about those things.

[@truthmatters5000]

damage control at its best. Sherwood, you have a large following of good technicians. Bad news travels fast. As a tech of 25 years, I have a lot of experience with different filters. I don't get to choose what filters to put on a customer's vehicle, but on mine I use napa gold. I have a love hate relationship with napa, but the filters have been good so far. I'm glad that you do your research to be and use the best, as we all should. Thanks for your videos.

[@gmcfarron9199]

Thanks for the video. I just have one question, after this presentation is Royalty Auto Service going back to stocking the full array of NAPA oil filters, or are you sticking with your original decision to switch to Wix? Interesting to read all the comments - lots of different views. Thanks again.

[@CPthetooladdict]

You know I really love what you do and I have no question that you are 100% on point with everything you have said, however why didn't they address this before just making the change that is my biggest issue and reason I do not trust them. Thank you for delivering another fantastic video.

[@BCJackson01]

What it boils down to is made in USA (Mann-Hummel) in NC versus NAPA which is all made in China. No matter the quality, most likely similar. Go with made in USA. Based on principal.

[@peterrudy9207]

I only use Amsoil oil filters and for a period when they were not being made ? They were offering Wix XP as a replacement which I used and now back to Amsoil .

[@JohnS-yo5yt]

Amsoil doesn't make those filters, they simply put their name on them just as NAPA is doing with either the Wix or PGI filter. There are only a few major players who produce 90% of the filters sold, this includes the OE filters. BTW most OE filters that are installed on the vehicle are not the same filter you buy at the dealer. Are they the same spec? Sure, but could be made by different companies.

[@brucehobbs1734]

I use Amsoil, but use the WIX filters. Once Amsoil started getting China filters, I changed over.

[@peterrudy9207]

@@brucehobbs1734 I recently bought two Amsoil filters EA15K09 for my 2020 Toyota Camry on their website , Made in USA .

[@PeterV-]

@@brucehobbs1734 Amsoil filters are made by Champion Labs and made in the USA. Amsoil filters are full synthetic media and 99% efficiency at 20 microns. Wix XP filter have horrible efficiency. Here's a tip. Fram Endurance filters are the exact same filter as Amsoil.

[@wally6193]

I just had a cartridge filter from Amsoil that what basically bent on the top sealing surface, and it was from the factory like that not from being squashed. Not a good sign as far as QC goes, now I'm skeptical about these.

[@ChunkyMonkaayyy]

I keep thinking of that movie Tommy Boy about car parts manufacturing. 😂😂 “Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside.”

[@ProudUSNAVYVeteran]

Regardless of their quality control, buy American products!

[@polishedturdspeedshop]

He is promoting China made over USA made now... Why???

[@miken4022]

...or German LOL

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

We are not promoting china made over USA made. Not sure where you got that impression from the video. Our shelves are lined with WIX filters now and will stay that way!

[@miken4022]

@@theroyaltyautoservice china over German? LOL

[@polishedturdspeedshop]

@@theroyaltyautoservice maybe play your video back to yourself

[@jamest9457]

Great series on filters. Thanks for putting this out as I just assumed NAPA = Wix . Now I’m paying more attention to where the filters are made.

[@MtnTechie]

Changed oil the other day, sad to see Napa gold 1334 now made in S. Korea. Was USA forever. If oil wasn't already drained, I would have returned it. But am now looking at other brands.

[@KenSpahr]

Interestingly prior to seeing your video I stopped using Napa Gold filters after having two issues with them. The first was on a Jeep that started knocking in cold weather, the relief valve in the filter wasn’t working. The second was on a MGB with an inverted filter, the anti-drain back valve wasn’t working, when I removed the filter on a warmed up engine the filter was empty. Just my experience and I won’t use them anymore.

[@softwaresignals]

At the 13:14 point in the video, the loose-glue issue means that junk can get sucked down the bypass valve on bypass events (cold starts/revs, partially loaded oil filter with a full-throttle blast, etc.). Cleanest best built filters I've seen are: MicroGard Select, Fram Ultra, Fram Toughguard, Purolator Boss, Purflux, PIAA.

[@andrewhennerfeind9879]

Watched this video 10 minutes before I pulled another one of these filters off that was leaking. The red seals are harder than any of the filters I have ever used, and I have had several leak. If NAPA is watching the comments, hopefully they will see this. I have 25 years in doing this, and we are currently an autocare. I have resorted to using other filters because of this.

[@jacobmartin1951]

I have had a few chevy pickups that i have put a ton of miles on over the years. I used to use the Fram Xtra guard until they changed the media a few years ago. After watching whipcitywrencher KZbin’s I decided the premium guard filter to be a fantastic option. I couldn’t be happier. My oil pressure is always perfect. Start ups are quiet even during our Canadian winters. Couldn’t be happier with the premium guard filter. Wix has made a good move here imo.

[@bennwilliamson2605]

Thoughts on OEM filters? Are these aftermarket filters better than Motocraft filters I use on my Fords?

[@jacksarebetter]

If there is an issue they said they would stand behind it...yeah..but I doubt they have a printed warranty..this whole thing reminds me of the scene from Tommy Boy selling Callahan Brake pads..😅

[@swampyfox8688]

If you want me to take a dump in a box and stamp it guaranteed I will 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️

[@jamesplotkin4674]

While they may have some contribution to anti-drain-back, those valves you show at 12:50 are specifically flow by-pass valves which allow oil to flow if the medium is blocked, the oil is thick due to cold temps or super-high-volume pumps. You never want the filter to block flow 100%.

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

You are correct.

[@dennisneikes7215]

On the other oil filter vid you did, what manufacturer did the shabby glue job on the media

[@thooks1234]

I do not use aftermarket filters, as all my vehicles are Toyotas and I buy Toyota OEM filters (cartridges) on sale from aggressive online Toyota/Lexus Dealers for 1/4 of the price of most of the canister filters... With that said, I commend you, Sherwood, NAPA, WIX, Mann, everyone for responding to your first video. What all of these companies, including yours, have done is provide great information for all of us. It's great to have your channel as a resource and these companies responding to the videos.

[@svgs650r]

🤣 Do actually think Toyota makes their own filters in house?

[@thooks1234]

@ Yes, I’m dumb like you

[@svgs650r]

@@thooks1234 no, you're dumb like you!

[@jayslandscaping7284]

YOU BEEN COMPROMISED!!!! I think there's money or some type of deal involved!

[@wackyp]

Glad I have European cars with element filters. Used Hengst and Mann for 25years. My old diesels used can filters and they were always Mahle or Bosch.

[@100amps]

Dude, you got the corporate damage control team. The business team, the suits, the brown nosers with the expense accounts, not the engineering team. You didn't get anything of value. No engineer, no data, no test results (worse, refused to provide it!), just blah blah blah 🙄.

[@newbernbears]

Very disappointing corporate speak didn’t say a damn thing worthwhile

[@Logjammer69]

I had 2 Mexican made Wix filters leak on me. The only 2 filters I’ve ever had problems with.

[@rking3724]

I've had problems with Motorcraft, Fram, and Purolator. Everything is crap these days.

[@mandytuning]

They leak tequila

[@XantheFIN]

Blink twice in next video if you were hold as hostage with gun on your back.

[@patrioticimmigrant8817]

I recieved 6 1348s 2 days ago. 2 rattled, and I returned them. Not sure why the rattle.

[@jessemackenzie6516]

generator?

[@patrioticimmigrant8817]

@@jessemackenzie6516 napa gold filters for ford's and mazda

[@atticstattic]

​@@jessemackenzie6516 Which filters have generators?

[@dirkmcghee1604]

Wow, yes props to you, NAPA. That is impressive to send your people over and makes a big difference among your DIY market.

[@swedesspeedshop2518]

What does stand behind it 100% mean ? So if my engine blows up from a bad filter they’ll give me a new $10 filter?

[@dirkmcghee1604]

The best sales people are exactly that, ironically. You would never think of them as a "salesman."

[@bigjay1970]

So true!🤔🤫😬

[@us1fedvet]

I have always been Pleased with NAPA/WIX filters. I’ve seen NAPA Gold oil boxes with made in China notation. It is alarming. Heck, I’ve recently purchased a FRAM Extra Guard 10060 10k mile filter to fit my Ram Hemi - it is US made and has a better warranty than my old trusted NAPA Gold and Purolator Boss which have, for years, been my go to. And by the way, the FRAM costs under $4.00 on Amazon. The others are over $10. Apples to Apples comparison. I like US made over China or mystery destination. I do a 5 k mile OCF. I’m switching.

[@TadpoleTrainer]

A large number of Fram filters are absolutely terrible. I wouldn’t put them on my car if you paid me

[@rking3724]

@@TadpoleTrainer A lot of Fram filters have rust on the base plate or metal shavings caught in the threads becaused they never deburred it after the threads were cut.

[@Mark-rw3kw]

Wix makes some filters in China, and now that they have been purchased by MANN+HUMMEL, they are starting to close some US plants.

[@tedgerstenslager2949]

why would anybody run an oil filter to 10K miles? That is nuts. The cheapest part of an engine in the oil and filters.

[@us1fedvet]

@@tedgerstenslager2949 I wouldn’t but that Fram is guaranteed for 10 k. It’s USA made. The NAPA Gold is not.

[@louhess6355]

I purchased 5 NAPA oil filters and I went to use one and looked inside and there was rust. They were kept indoors House workshop. I'm taking them back

[@richardraborn2467]

why is the napa p3144 oil filter i purchased at napa larger than the filter that is on my 2006 3.0 turbo outback?

[@dougschmidt2949]

Good job as usual.We trust you.

[@TStheDeplorable]

But do they put a guarantee on the box? My customers want to see a guaratnee on the box!

[@Oheeeoh]

I'm switching to Purolator One made in USA. I don't ever buy Chinese stuff if an American product is similar and available.

[@williamphelan8779]

B !W, another excellent video. You do a fantastic job with your presentations !

[@JackMeyHoffer562]

What kind of guarantee would any filter from any company be worth if it blows the engine?

[@TheOptimalmax]

Just bought a NAPA gold from my local store last month. Made in USA on box w/Mann-Hummell on the filter.

[@inidaho6740]

At 1 point in my time, i was a huge Dana parts distributor, that owned wix. Wix had great foreign coverage. I Also became a huge Hastings filter distributor. However back in the day, parts were manufactured in USA.Today in our truck shop, we use Fleetguard for Cummins, Detroit for Freightliner/Detroit. Therefore there is no question as to what OEM uses. Donaldson manufacturers some for both those companies. However,since im old school, made in USA is important to me. Back in my racing days, Purolator was important. I Used Luberfiner filters in my trucks in the day. If I had your shop, Wix would be the winner.

[@raymondharrell2534]

The term you are looking for is "proprietary". Most businesses use it as a means of saying that we might give away information that would compromise what we do in the materials and/or manufacturing processes. This would be "knock-offs". Many businesses use it as a shield so that they don't have to explain the problems that they are having with their product or why their product isn't as good as the next guys. I am a former test engineer (eternal sceptic) and I think if you test something and have data that you would want to show it to the world. I am always suspect of people who show me something and then say, BUT you can't share it. Thanks for doing this. Every little bit of information helps.

[@donwyoming1936]

Most car manufacturers are recommending flat springs. They keep the filter media from tilting in the can. The coil springs are inferior. Funny thing is, cheap filters usually use the coil springs because they're cheap to buy.

[@jweaver7170]

Great follow up. MEET OR EXCEDES OEM is the main point.

[@FPSMurdock]

Interesting. Thanks for the updates. Yeah, I'm behind on videos but im playing catch up.

[@mediocreman2]

Honestly, I never thought I would be listening to a grown man who wears charm bracelets tell me about oil filters. But here we are and I'm good with it. LOL

[@shepherdsfleetservicesllc8147]

Thank you for the information.

[@jacksarebetter]

If an engine failed due to an oil filter they would not just write a check. I bet they would squeal like a pig under a gate

[@alittletexasingeorgia]

If there is no difference in the bypass springs why are there two different types? The main question is can you believe everything you hear from a company rep and when it comes to filter performance "Does it matter much at all if you use premium synthetic oil and change it at or before recommended intervals?

[@lesterpeters1504]

i was told today by NAPA salesperson behind the counter that NAPA no longer uses WIX filters but has changed to a Chinese filter.

[@MIKEYSREVIEWS]

What happened to the Napa platinum?

[@DJ-tn7vj]

Really appreciate the last video. I thought Napa flew in the kid. He came in on cue while you started 😊

[@marksullivan9954]

Interesting video. I recently changed from Wix filters to Purolator Boss because their synthetic media is better. Note Purolator is a division of MANN+HUMMEL Filters. How do you think the Purolator Boss compares to Wix filters?

[@chrisbehan6451]

You do know that Wix and Purolator are both owned by Mann+Hummel. Believe Wix XP and Purolator BOSS are now essentially the same filter...

[@TStheDeplorable]

I'd love to see a comparison of the new Napa Gold, and the Wix Napa Gold. I will guarantee that the new ones are not as good. Also "OEM" standard is a very low standard.

[@BlakeInJC]

I am no longer using Wix filters. I returned my entire last order of Wix because most of the inside louvers are stamped closed tight!!!! No oil flow possible. So I’m glad Napa made the change. I am no longer using Wix-very disappointed in Wix quality control. All are made in Mexico now.

[@matthiasgrundler2404]

Will NAPA stand behind you if the filter is the cause of engine failure if the filter fails?

[@NotOnYourLife]

I will always buy the product made in the USA when I have a choice. My main reason is my friends and neighbors and their friends and neighbors make a living either directly or indirectly from goods made in this country. I do not know anyone in China and would prefer to support those companies that have an investment in this country. It is not a quality issue, for the most part, but it is an economic issue that is not tied to my purchase price. I will pay more for any products that support our economy and support those companies who choose to make products here. I will not belittle anyone who does not think the way I do, but I stopped buying Napa Gold a while back and do not see that changing.

[@philipcheung2669]

I know it's late to say this after a month but since I just had a discussion with someone regarding this I will have some input on this... It is unfair to buy a filter (or anything else of the same nature) of a certain brand based on who's the manufacture behind for that product. If you want to buy a M+H filter, go buy a M+H filter; if you want a Wix filter, go buy a Wix filter. Don't go thinking "Wix is good, and since Wix makes filter for Napa I will buy Napa instead of Wix" and thinking you have got a good deal on this. Sub-contracting decisions based on quality, supply and demand, pricing are happing all the time and will never end. Same goes for the car manufacturers - they change their part suppliers all the time if you pay enough attention. Why do we rarely hear people complain when Toyota/GM/Ford/BMW/Merc.. change their part (especially filters) suppliers? Because we recognize and believe the name printed on the box aren't we? So why are we having this issue with Napa now? And nowadays because of economic change, the manufacture cost in China is actually rising to a point where a lot of suppliers are relocating the production line to Vietnam and Cambodia (mainly for the cheap labor). So the most important thing is that the company is on top of the manufacturing and quality control, and ultimately stands behind their products. Let's be honest, cutting corners is not limited to products made in China... being in the aviation industry for 10+ years I have definitely seen enough corner cutting from all over the world...

[@TheForeman805]

We can get Premium Guard filters at one of our wholesale suppliers and I can tell you after cutting a few new filters apart, the standard line are 100% identical to the EX line internally. Premium Guard filters are $1.89 in 2024 dollars if that says anything...

[@PeterV-]

Except the filter media is different and perhaps the ADBV. These filters are often dissected on BITOG and various KZbin channels.

[@shueher1]

Napa is great. Better than fram. I'm still buying oem filter.

[@jrock-xs9vp]

Your videos are so informative people need to know what their buying.

[@Kris-P343]

I had been buying the NAPA Platinum oil (WIX)filters for my vehicles, so when the clerk told me they were no longer available as they had switched to the Gold line( more expensive actually) and produced in China I was disappointed. I will continue to buy the USA made WIX from a parts store other than NAPA. This is not a knock on China we all own plenty of things produced in China. I just take my vehicle maintenance pretty serious.

[@davidjones8312]

How many microns of particulants does that filter filter that is the question.

[@EristiCat]

Well, I’m not surprised by what you heard. One of the oddest things is the people who are cutting filters open and telling you that they can judge the quality of a filter by cutting it open and looking at parts. The filters are not designed to be works of art. The filter is designed to filter, not drain back,and to have a pressure relief. You certainly can’t judge how well it filters by looking at it. You can’t judge how well the drain back valve works by looking at it, and you can’t judge how effectively the Pressure relief works by looking at it. Obviously, if those parts are defective and you can see that the seal is warped and it’s not even sealing against the seal surface or the spring is cracked in half it’s a problem. So sure you could tell that by cutting but it’s just ridiculous to think that you’re finding out anything meaningful by cutting a quality filter. That’s not to say there aren’t people out there who were actually running filtering tests. Those ones should be payed attention. That’s what the filter was designed to do.

[@codymays9971]

I have actually had some issues with Napa gold filters in recent history. I have had several 7060 filters on 07-13 gm trucks cause a no oil pressure reading on the gauge. The vehicle would start with good psi then run for about 15 minutes and the pressure reading would drop to 0. It would throw the cel for an oil psi switch. You could replace the switch all day long and still would not fix the issue. Every time, replacing the filter with a Napa pro select fixed the issue. I also had a couple delco filters do the same thing. Also I got a Napa gold 100255 filter for a 14 Silverado that had no threads cut in it to screw onto the engine. I also had a couple Napa gold 1042 filters for 99-06 gm trucks cause low oil psi at idle around 1500 miles in the oil change. For the above reasons I stopped using the gold filters and switched to the pro select.

[@coflyer3993]

Had the same exact problem with the 1042 NAPA Gold filter. Had me panicked that my oil pressure was going down. Replaced the 1042 with a Fram from WalMart and the pressure went back up to normal. I'm done with NAPA Gold. I don't care what their "standards" and "quality control" are- it sure didn't work out for me.

[@spyder2782]

Have you talked with wix?

[@simondrake8909]

NAPA is starting to get big here in the UK now, already they're known as Need Another Part Again. We've had issues with quality in starters and alternators, suspension components, all the usual stuff. Obviously it's not just NAPA, it's becoming very difficult to find parts that are actually reasonable quality, without going to the dealer.

[@Transparency-for-all]

Wix could not supply NAPA. Shipping rate hovered around 60% for a couple of years. Are all Wix filters made in the USA?

[@Transparency-for-all]

WIX Filters - Plant Locations. With deep manufacturing roots in Gastonia, N.C., WIX is a global company with manufacturing locations on four continents - including North America, South America, Europe and Asia.

[@Transparency-for-all]

Is MAHLE made in China? It has about 20 manufacturing sites in China, including Yingkou, Tianjin, Macheng, Guangzhou, Chongqing, and Shanghai.

[@Transparency-for-all]

Where are Mann and Hummel filters made? The first products were fabric air filters made in Ludwigsburg, Germany. After eight decades, we are a global market leader for filtration with locations on all continents.

[@PeterV-]

WIX doesn't make their own filters, they're made in China just like most companies. Mostly Champ Labs makes filters in America.

[@jerrydavidnichols6735]

Thank you for the great information it's appreciated!

[@rking3724]

The sloppy glue job is unacceptable. What if there's more glue on the inside of the filter, which is the clean side?

[@CoffeeRacer561]

The glue is probably not part of that data sheet that they seem to boast.

[@memopadilla5931]

Exactly.. the fact that they let it slide is concerning.

[@remarkable224]

@@memopadilla5931 The excess glue on the outside of the filter that easily flakes off is a major issue. When the bypass valve opens, those glue flakes will get sucked into the engine. Why is everybody ignoring this?

[@southerncross3638]

I use Baldwin oil filters there built like napa Golds we're 5 years ago.👍

[@jeremygressley7758]

I didn’t realize that Napa had different suppliers until today. 2 weeks ago I purchased 2 Wix 33166 fuel filters from Oreilly and they looked identical to the Napa 3166 I was replacing. Today I stopped at Napa and got 2 more 3166 filters for a different tractor and noticed they looked different than the Wix. When I looked them up on the Napa website it gives the Baldwin part number as the manufacturer. I’m sure they will work fine but they do look cheaper made compared to the Wix.

[@STREETFIGHTER50]

I believe the STP XL’s from AutoZone are made by Premium Guard. Awesome quality filters!👍🏽👍🏽 Oreilly’s MicroGard Select are my current favorite.