The Rugby Pod Grades England's Autumn Nations Series

[@mephistoXFC459V]

"Every home team had to play a Tier 2 nation. The Welsh played Fiji..." In that matchup, the Welsh were the Tier 2 team (and I say that as a Wales fan).

[@jamesmullins657]

As an Irish fan I was not surprised that England beat us last year. They were building something pretty powerful with that coaching ticket. Given all the disruption of losing Jones etc I think they’ve actually done pretty well in this series. They came closer to beating NZ than we did in Dub. Think they will go well in this 6N. I’d expect one of France or Ireland to win it but have a feeling Eng will be a very competitive 3rd.

[@world2364]

Shut up James, you stomach sickener.

[@paulmulryne8405]

Don't forget the Scots. They will probably beat Eng. If they can also get a result against Ire or France, they're right in the mix.

[@jamesmullins657]

@ No doubt! Just my gut feeling. Scots were impressive Sunday

[@modeboy]

A competitive 3rd doesn't sound like progress!

[@PB22559]

@@jamesmullins657 The bottom line is they've lost to NZ 3 times in the last few months. A NZ side that are still building and not playing to their full potential yet.

[@cceffect]

I'm stunned Spencer was dropped, and Slade wasnt

[@michaelhutchings5986]

Would have been brilliant to see Spencer and (non-Marcus) Smith paired against T1 opposition.

[@mhoppy6639]

@@michaelhutchings5986that’s what I was thinking. There’s not too much to find out about Marcus so I’m not sure what the thinking was. And Goodey, it’s not a foot race unless you’re in your slippers which everyone knows are sooo much faster than shoes.

[@somersetfan1]

I'm still not clear what VP does better than Spencer 🤔

[@whtwht]

Play for Leicester

[@whtwht]

Btw Spencer should not have been dropped

[@kofiesson8110]

The conversation around Smith reminds me so much of the convo around Beauden Barrett. Eventually NZ just said lets go with it and for years they were unstoppable. Smith with all these attacking options will work. Smith proved that this autumn against the best. Had his coach not made baffling subs. We are talking about an incredible Autumn from Smith

[@cosmojames7710]

I think the issue is more about the attacking players around him not being in tune, as he is very instinctive (brilliantly so) and not sure others are on his wavelength.

[@tomjoyce6365]

I couldn’t agree more. The issue is that Borthwick isn’t fit to lace his boots.

[@tomjoyce6365]

@@cosmojames7710he needs a punch option at 12 to help play a few phases before he makes the killer play. Smith likes to let loose once the opposition defence has been compromised.

[@davidpeters3857]

As opposed to DC 👀

[@99RML]

​​@@tomjoyce6365he used to use Esterhuizen for that at Quins and worked brilliantly. I'm not convinced Lawrence is quite powerful enough to play that role at international level though

[@jonfallis305]

IMO Eng play to not lose rather than have their own style of play to win

[@stephencoombes5415]

'George Ford, times is up" I agree but Borthwick has just given him a central contract!!!!

[@crystallineentity]

Really? fml

[@TheOne-uo7is]

Ffs really

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Ford out now, below average, much like Stuart, Cole furbank Steward,

[@danielh4032]

Love to see Cokanasiga live up to his potential.

[@seanquigley8041]

England have some amazing rugby players but I think they have the wrong head coach

[@Sunshinez732]

That is precisely the thinking that will not see anything change. Jones had to go, Borthwick will go, and the next, but England does not have a single player who'd make a Northern Hemisphere XV, let alone a World XV.

[@somersetfan1]

Way underqualified. Did nothing in Europe.

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Just a poor coach, Borthwick, is not an international Coach,

[@david81buckley]

Ireland fan here - England's series of 5 losses should be taken in context. 3 of the games were against the 2 world cup finalists and they were highly competitive in all of those games. I really felt england had found their flow at the end of last year's 6 nations, but its hard to read now after the losses of key coaches. In any case, i think they've got a real chance in dublin against an ireland team minus their head coach. England to finish 2nd to France this year, which would be a good step in the right direction.

[@georgeperry2791]

Goodey talking straights facts as ever! Need to get Feyi-Waboso, Freeman and Sleightholme all in the starting 15

[@andrewjones8420]

Missing a talisman on the pitch too.... Shows how much Faz was keeping things together at world cup!

[@fin-ed6oj]

Henry Slade might be the worst defensive centre I've ever seen play for England. I don't care if he's not played much this season, his defence has been crap for a while. His attack has also been on the slide for a few years now, he's got no pace and he's powder puff. We need to find someone else!!! Lawrence at 12 and try Freeman at 13?

[@somersetfan1]

Dingwall, England should try playing a 12 at 12 for a change

[@TheOne-uo7is]

Completely agree. I think his offensive is even more of a problem - zero line breaks and defenders beaten across 4 games is terrible. I also can’t remember him making one dominant tackle (and he’s meant to be head of defence). It was the same in the six nations. Everyone can see it - he must go. Take nothing away from him being a top club player but he’s not an international anymore.

[@N8zro]

It’s funny, I’ve been watching six nations and World Cup highlights and in quite a few of the England games teams have moved the ball wide and scored against them and majority of the time it’s slade at fault.

[@somersetfan1]

@N8zro Slade wasn't in the World Cup, which was a surprise at the time as he was playing great, but England's defence was good then. Afterwards, they brought in Felix Jones and decided to play blitz defence because of that coach! Now the only English team who play blitz defence are Exeter, so suddenly Henry Slade is a first choice, even when half fit. Everything is the wrong way round! Exeter aren't even that good defensively...

[@N8zro]

@ 2019. He was injured but in the squad and played in the final. Can’t say whether it’s him or just the system, but with the recent struggle there it’s easy to spot going back to watch old games, when teams go wide and hit the 13 channel and score. Scotland did it a lot, France, South Africa and New Zealand all prior to this year.

[@DerekChaplin-mu1gc]

Goodey, you are spot on, current Defense coach, if I'm not mistaken, is coaching in the 2nd tier in France. Step up to international level from there. not sure it's a sensible decision. Yes, English public need to know what happened with Jones and Walters. Found it difficult to work in an autocratic environment?? Great summary Guys!!

[@danielh4032]

England need a captain like Johnson to get a grip on the team during the game. And stop this multiple vice captains nonsense - can’t wait for a committee meeting to decide everything.

[@aaronreid116]

If Ronan O Gara was coaching England, they would be savage!!😲

[@PB22559]

What has ROG got to do with any of this? lol

[@Sunshinez732]

If England had world class players they'd be savage.

[@sharronwood4486]

If your granny had wheels she’d be a wagon!!

[@nguboyengwekaluvuyo6219]

I think England will be very competitive come 6 Nations time. All the best from SA 👍🏽

[@kojo0711]

😂 competitive is what every team is . They don't have winning rugby . They have a slow full back . A predictable offense.

[@craigedwards3899]

Bollocks, they are poor

[@CharlieMain-q9y]

England have a very tough start with the first 3 fixtures in the 6 nations but I feel they can win 1 of those 3 ( probably Scotland in danger as they have won so many on the trot and due to lose one)

[@JasonPurll]

Kak man ...they're poor.

[@rugbymandan]

Honestly, you’re right - next time England play SA, England will win comfortably. You heard it here first. Thanks for your support

[@99RML]

Opoku-Fordjour also continues the fine tradition of England internationals from Cov boys!

[@frankhewett-smith5532]

Why not try Lennox Anyanwu at 12 ( plays with Marcus and is a natural 12) which would allow Ollie Lawrence to go 13.

[@cceffect]

Anyanwu is heading to France unfortunately

[@mrdrevilporkchop666]

Ah thats such a shame if he is off to france, I think that backline would solve so many issues

[@frankhewett-smith5532]

​@@cceffect is that confirmed

[@Δανιήλ-ψ8χ]

All the best to George Ford but yes I do agree his time is up. 🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@thehum1000]

People pit to much emphasis on autumn internationals, they have always been a training session, nothing more. I thought overall England were pretty good, and in good shape for the 6 nations, lots of positives.

[@AdAstraStakePool]

Agreed.

[@jonbrook4009]

Name 5 positives...

[@smoozerish]

My favorite rugby podcast 😊

[@schalkkymdell5941]

By a mile

[@JuandreJoubert]

Of course it was a failure lads. Losing 3 from 4 at Twickers! How can that be a success?

[@TP1988]

Is it not possible that the reason they blitz up regardless of situation atm is that it’s the best way to practice blitzing as much as possible as quickly as possible? Then after a year or two they’ll tweak?

[@RobertPerez-e8u]

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[@rob.1]

Great the debate around 10 is still alive. I think Marcus is a brilliant player, and he carries the team at times. But in the same way that i dont necessarily think the blitz suits England, I'm not sure Marcus suits the England style of attack.

[@angelaizen2231]

Smith has set up or been within 3 passes of nearly every single try and has scored the majority of our points this series. Come again?

[@whtwht]

Just give Marcus the 10 and Fin as deputy it's not hard

[@SocialObject]

I think Borthwick prepares the players v well but isn’t giving the final strategy to win which reflects his previous experience and personality. He needs a modern ‘Clive Woodward’ to push through. If he doesn’t, he wont last, which would be a shame because it’s 95% there.

[@traolachshortt380]

They beat Japan. And now they are 6 nations contenders. I don’t think so.

[@Canvashed]

Who's saying that? Mind you never lost to Japan? Eh...😂😂😂

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

England 4th at best, Borthwick out now

[@KiwiInUK]

No mention of the New Zealand front rows that at time's did over all of the northern teams 😢

[@meetrasurrik6982]

England are so back! We're gonna win the six nations

[@mhoppy6639]

Is Marcus Smith the Tony Ward of England and is Fin smith the Ollie Campbell? (Minus the excessive kicking)

[@loyisozono4223]

Here in the south we actually love Steve and his mates coaching England. He's like Rugby's very own David Moyes or Graham Porter. He must stay on until the next world cup 🏈😂, long live the Steve!

[@christopherdewet2836]

With the Scots really performing well, and Farrel being away in the Lions tour, this 6N is more open than it has been in many years. Four teams can take it...

[@PB22559]

Aus were crap at the weekend, they were nowhere near as good as they had been the previous two weekends... and Scotland couldn't get close to beating SA. Ireland will probably be favorites for the 6nations just because they have France and England in Dublin.

[@Britalex]

Marcus Smith absolutley our 10 going forward. Cemented and absolutley agree with Goodey. Finn on the bench.

[@CharlieMain-q9y]

Before the autumn series if you picked a combined Scotland and England team you would have picked the England back row of Earl , CCS and Currie /Underhill and the reality after watching the Australia games is that the Scots back row outperformed the English so something is going very wrong for those quality players to so underperform . I do wonder if we need an out and out jackler like Evans to make the important turnovers which Courtney used to make

[@cosmojames7710]

The odd thing was we barely even tried to slow down rucks or win opposition ball. It was all about getting back into the line and blitzing.

[@TheOne-uo7is]

Yeah there was no jackling was there - def a big factor. And not many offloads either another basic skill the SH kill us on

[@redneckReno]

Eddie blooding new players and England going with the tried and true

[@peterp9918]

I don't think there's a hope in hell that they'll get rid of El Abd and I'd be tempted to give him the 6 nations to see if he can shore up the defence, hopefully by instituting a different system.

[@markl2815]

Defence actually when used well is the first stage of offence … We are not world class in set piece, in defence now in attack … we are ok But we are hoping to get through without a foundation

[@suttonjamessutton]

5/10 is very generous. The teams going backwards

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Going backwards fast under Borthwick

[@garysmith2983]

It’s hard to compare with the stage of the game and the opponents, but we looked a far more balanced side with Finn Smith at 10. Feel for Marcus, but I’d be inclined to build the team around Finn and bring Marcus off the bench. NZ have their Marcus in Damian Mckenzie and I’m not convinced these players, as exciting and brilliant as they are, get the best out of the team overall. It would be brutal on Marcus, but that’s international sport.

[@Danimal13]

To start on the players, I don’t get what Martin offers, he’s poor around the park, can’t catch and defensively shocking and always looks for big hits instead of good tackles, JVP has looked very flappy, slow and nowhere near the standard of Spencer, Slade hasn’t looked fit at all and the defence doesn’t suit him, Ford has hopefully played his last game for England, Steward is too good in the air to not play him, Lawrence isn’t a 12. On the coaching, there’s no plan in attack, defence is shocking and Borthwick is as one dimensional as he was as a player, get them gone

[@Mopheadlee]

Marcus feels like the English McKenzie if you catch my drift

[@robinchanguion5400]

England are running way behind in preparation for the next world cup, their coaching set-up is abysmal, they have no second team, like Scotland, France and South Africa do, their first team reserves.........

[@angelaizen2231]

We do have a 2nd team. It's called England A. We just never give them any time

[@PB22559]

Scotland have a second team?

[@robinchanguion5400]

@@PB22559 Did you watch the Scotland v Portugal game a few weeks ago ?

[@andrewmedley6848]

There is a lot to put right still !

[@AlfredTheGreatestEver]

Would fin smith be a decnt 12? Or is he still too little?

[@qcsorter4626]

I have the feeling that England are very close to clicking into place and they would always worry me with their physicality. If a few results go their way they will gain the confidence that they are currently lacking.

[@AdrianWatts-bg5vh]

Lawrence can’t function with M Smith - he draws the defenders before passing often with the double pump. Change Lawrence for a player that can keep with him. Both centres need changing and they drop the hammer

[@Δανιήλ-ψ8χ]

I give England a 4.5/10 in the autumn series

[@simonbarnes8303]

As the game v Japan was a hiding to nothing then why not bring in 3 or 4 players from the A team to be capped? For example Ibitoye, Willis, Pollock and Heyes. I'd also have played Fin Smith instead of Marcus Smith as we already know he is the best fly half and we need somebody as a backup who can keep the pace up.

[@tomjoyce6365]

The player we need most is a power 12, then Lawrence can play his normal 13

[@davidpechey853]

Putting Ford on the bench having been out for a while and not up to speed whilst F Smith’s playing great, sends 3 messages to the team and players. Firstly that SB doesnt trust M Smith. 2, he doesn’t trust F Smith. 3, he isn’t committed to how England attack with MS as needs another “safer - game management” style to revert to. Not good management and useless tactically.

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Ford out borthwick out

[@9Charcot]

Spot on Goody regarding Joe El Abde. Its not personal but he doesn't have the pedigree and credentials to inspire confidence and trust from the players.

[@nickc4033]

Borthwick chose what he believed was his strongest team, since he needed a 'W'... Which just highlights the selection errors made: picking the likes of Isiekwe and Dombrandt (who just haven't shown themselves to be Test animals), whilst giving no opportunity to the likes of Tom Willis, Ted Hill, etc Ridiculous substitution strategy, seeming more a reflection of SB's limitations and inability to adjust from his pre-set 'plan' when the game needs something different And, yes, crazy, to select Tom Curry after 2 recent concussions - makes a mockery of both 'player welfare' and need to develop next generation of talent Based on that, a 5/10 is probably ok for the overall team, but way too generous on Borthwick as a Test-level coach

[@lucascarlisle9116]

Its fascinating listening to people advocate for Marcus at 10. The longer they talk the more it becomes an argument purely based on 'vibes'. He’s a fabulous rugby player, but 40 caps is enough to tell you we aren’t going to win another World Cup with him quarterbacking. Finn has showed he’s got what it takes to manage the game effectively as a starter - Marcus is the perfect bench man, coming on later as the game breaks up where he can use his speed and skill against tired bodies.

[@SocialObject]

Up for debate. Both young. Both can improve. Stop polarising ❤

[@angelaizen2231]

Bro, you're tripping. Marcus starts, Fin to replace.

[@lmarislmarislmaris4271]

​@@angelaizen2231i do love watching teams run over Smith.

[@angelaizen2231]

@@lmarislmarislmaris4271 ?

[@sebwilliams1351]

That’s a poor take, hardly just picked on ‘vibes’ when nearly everything good we done in attack came from his own talent. Fin looks the part as well but Goodey makes a good point that Marcus really hasn’t been given the keys for an extended period of time, so I think we hold off making the switch to Fin for at least another 18 months

[@ph5849]

I can’t see SB being a pro active winning coach. Most changes are though default or outcry! Time to move on already for me.

[@rob.1]

Hilarious that Goode says he speaks in facts and truths.

[@tonydolton4544]

England…”we are re-building” been rebuilding since they won the World Cup !!!

[@frankhewett-smith5532]

If we don't get someone in who is a tried and tested elite defence coach I can see the 6 nations been a disaster, 4th if we are lucky.

[@waynemoore9951]

Even Italy could finish above us

[@Relentlesscal]

As a former front rower there’s a big difference in loose head and tight head. Especially at the top level. Love the look of Opoku but he’ll have to specialise in one or the other. There’s literally no top level prop who plays both sides for a reason. Do enjoy backs having a say on front rows. Always a good laugh.

[@PB22559]

By the same logic former front row players shouldn't be allowed to comment on back play? Heck, us life long fans who never played the game should also keep our opinion to ourselves, no? lol

[@Relentlesscal]

@ but I’ve played front row for the past 20 years, shit standard as it is. I don’t comment on back play for good reason haha! I stick to my lane. Was said in good fun mate relax. But my point stands, he needs to pick lose or tight for the sake of his career

[@beneardley8875]

Ted Hill. Has he got shite hands or is not fit enough? Just cannot see why he is not in the match day 23. Has height for lineout option. Obvs missing something.

[@GenoAtkins]

Too small unfortunately. Look at the athletes France and SA can deploy

[@charlespc8855]

@@GenoAtkinshe’s bigger than CCS, both Curry, Earl, Underhill and Dombrandt.

[@GenoAtkins]

⁠@@charlespc8855he weighs less than CCS and Dombrandt. Similar to Tom Curry which is a problem for a 4/6 at international level. England have a lot of 4/6s but badly need another 5 outside of Martin.

[@andreemurray7039]

The RFU need to go with the England management also go aclean sheet start again no chance in the 6 nations maybe 4th

[@struancochrane753]

Now is the time Bill Sweeney needs to earn his salary. Steve B looks like a man unsure of his job, this transcends to the players. Bill has got to throw the kitchen sink at his "man" in Steve B. Then perhaps you will see some development. For me, I agree with Andy G's 5 out of ten, is the side hasn't developed over the series. Their defensive hasn't learnt and was making the same mistakes against Japan as they did in the first game. If they aren't careful they will sleep walk into another Farrell Ford situation, with the Fin and Marcus. A maverick 10, has never been England's style, do you play Fin and open up your back line more, structured plays, and moves, or Marcus, playing on your wits. That issue needs to be resolved quickly and stuck with. As that will determine the style of attack and defence. The is a lot of hedging from the England management, for fear of their job. Bill step up.

[@1095ByMattRickard]

Goodey - you should have been a coach.

[@9Charcot]

There are lots of bits and pieces that England can improve but let's not muddy the waters....the defence was a disaster....if it had been 10 or 20 % better England would probably be sitting on 3 wins out of 4! This should be the No1 priority going into the 6Ns, with or without Joe El Abde (Who was a bad hire IMO. I have no doubt the attack will get better when Mitchell is back. Chessum will also make a difference in the 23.

[@lmarislmarislmaris4271]

Passing a protocol should not be the standard post concussion. Curry's brain wasn't fully healed from his 1st when he got the 2nd and in worse shape now. He should be sat down from all activities.

[@SVAgxlxxi]

we need tom willis and zach mercer in the squad

[@rob.1]

Willis maybe. Mercer no thanks

[@fomora12]

So Will Stewart did well against lesser opponents. Hardly a ringing endorsement, if he struggles against tier one opponents then he’s just not good enough ATM

[@nicholasfallowfield4379]

In defence of the defence coach it is not his fault that he had to come in at such short notice and that he has had to continue a defence system that is not his. Plus he was the defence coach at Castres when they won the T14 so his CV is better than you like to portray. The fault for the defence lies with Borthwick for presiding over the coaching changes well as the RFU for not having a Director of Rugby to support our inexperienced coaches.

[@kenrehill8775]

Joe also got Oyonnax into the top 14 and another semi, with eff all budget. He’s a great coach but he’s been given the poisoned chalice 1 - England, 2 taking over midway through the transition to blitz.

[@danedwadd62]

@@kenrehill8775him being Steve best mate is the issue

[@kenrehill8775]

@ if you’re good at your job, it’s not an issue. I’d say that Joe is good at his job, and at least he’s remained loyal to Oyonnax and not totally left them in the 💩, but it’s noticeable that their results since he’s been involved in England, haven’t been great. His results at castres and Oyonnax speak for themselves, but no one does well when involved with the England set up, it’s a toxic environment (inside knowledge), and most are there just to say they’re there or to pay the mortgage

[@connorlumb90]

Thing with england no one wants to take acceptability for their poor performance. Someone needs to take charge on the pitch more, no one, it trusting in each other.

[@markl2815]

Well, I just saw muscle used against little people to get on top of… fair enough but you ain’t doing that against world leaders I also saw a continuation of woeful defence …. The stop gap defence coach now leaves to return to france so how does anyone move forward now before 6 nations ? I don’t believe the guy in question is good enough anyway

[@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863]

Does anybody here have a friend like Steve Borthwick? I don't know anyone remotely like him, much like Liz Truss etc. Normal folk want someone they can connect with. SB seems like an alien's idea of what a human is.

[@siobhanaldris7366]

Why don't England put Manu F.O to 12 with Tommy Freeman at 13 and move Freddie Stewart to the wing! Marcus S and Fin S should be your 10's. England are a wee bit like Ireland now, some older players need to move on, sad as it is. But what do I know 😅. If England get it together they just might cause havoc in Dublin in Feb 🥴☘️

[@waynemoore9951]

Finn Smith in however many mins he got, showed more flair and superb passing than I've seen in a long time. JVP's handling at the base is awful

[@samtyrrell4488]

First 4 tries for England were questionable, forward pass for first, lost the ball underhill and both mauls shouldve been penalised for players joining in front of the ball carrier, when the backs entered the ball should be transferred back not George moving behind them. Poor reffing.

[@offal]

Jim denying he`s Engish again lol

[@davidb1633]

Wtf is John Mitchell doing a non-job at English Roses, get his ass back, and send Kevin Sinfield (doing a non-job) to The Roses. The best defence I've seen as.a club fan was ironically, when Andy was at 10. Biarritz circa 2005. Just a wall. Zero space. Whoever did that, get them in.

[@abyabrahams7639]

Whoopi doo!!! it was Japan!! Every week the same shite how great England is if they just...then they will be the best

[@Canvashed]

How was the Italy game. 😄

[@williammyles]

England are better than the results 😊Ireland

[@rw9854]

Freeman at 13 is the right call. It’s the hardest position to find a consistent player at. Freeman is big enough, physical enough, skilful enough and has the rugby brain to play there long term. Then it frees up sleightholme, waboso, roebuck, fur bank, steward, etc to play wing.

[@Δανιήλ-ψ8χ]

He should have NOT picked Curry! What was he thinking, bad move.

[@robertfoster1730]

Has goodey painted himself yellow?

[@michaelpaul7682]

Scotland is better than England, Wales? Italy can win games against all northern hemisphere teams? can Ireland still win all top northern hemisphere games? France can beat all games against both northern hemisphere and southern Hemisphere countries?

[@jaygeeist]

England would have won their games against both NZ and Australia if Marcus Smith had remained at fly-half for the full 80 minutes. That guy is magic.

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Ford is below average,

[@LiverPools-ib5fv]

Absolute rubbish. He's not thsy good mate. England are lucky that SA didn't have an extra 14 points on them.

[@nicolasnott2739]

Still questioning Smith? It's insane. Is it some kind of homophobia? Is he too metrosexual? Is it his hair? Is it just that the Telegraph just hate flair players? The rest of the rugby world is mystified.

[@cameronbergh1105]

Yes

[@RozWentworth]

Saffa here...unfortunately gents...this Autumn Nations wxposed the fact that Southern Hemisphere are wvilbing and just a cut above rhe Northern Hemisphere teams

[@Reg2B]

Except France!

[@RozWentworth]

@Reg2B France blows their own trumpets by beating 2nd tier Nations .. the power and RWC winners oast and future lies in the Southern Hemisphere

[@angelaizen2231]

​@@RozWentworthfrance has the best record again ABs of any NH team. And france just beat them again. I wouldn't call the ABs tier 2, would you?

[@angelaizen2231]

​@RozWentworth "RWC winners past and future live here" yk England have a world cup, right?

[@RozWentworth]

@angelaizen2231 21 years ago

[@soidog659]

England need an"enforcer" to replace Courtney Lawes.

[@kenrehill8775]

He was an enforcer? In the same vein as Bakkies to Eben?

[@angelaizen2231]

​@kenrehill8775 yes, he was. Look at any compilation of his tackles.

[@kenrehill8775]

@@angelaizen2231 Bakkies v lawes? Only one would be licking his lips. Lawes is a hard tackler, but he ain’t no Bakkies, in terms of enforcer.

[@angelaizen2231]

@kenrehill8775 you can't rank people like that. They're not the number 1 enforcer, so they're not an enforcer? Bakkies was dirty. Courtney lawes is widely regarded as one of the most feared tacklers in history, up with Botha and Chabal. He was England's enforcer. Saying he's not number 1, so he's not am enforcer at all is just fallacious.

[@kenrehill8775]

@ an enforcer is dirty, that’s why they’re called enforcers. Perhaps not what you’re thinking. A hard tackler is a hard tackler, not an enforcer. Not the same thing.

[@Bpt8825]

Could someone tempt Barbeary back to hooker? Seeing as all our current selection bar Georg being very small? For the Six Nations I’d like to see(I know it won’t happen due to eligibility): Baxter, Dan, Stuart, Itoje, Martin, T Hill, T Willis, J Willis Mitchell, F Smith, Hartley,Freeman, Roebuck, Feyi-Waboso Arundell Bench: Rodd, Langdon, Fagosban, O Chessum,Earl, Porter, M Smith, Slightholme

[@Grayson_Baker]

MS should be nowhere near fullback. Stop playing players out of position. They need to keep playing the Smiths to play different game styles. We have had years to bring in Front rowers but ever since Lancaster squad we haven't bothered. Completely remove Dan Cole from the game. He has been too old and slow for the last 5 years. We keep picking the same team over and over again expecting the same results.

[@ritchiebirnie6124]

5/10 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BiddyChow22]

Goodey in jail?

[@GenoAtkins]

Looks like he’s at the post office inquiry

[@meEllson]

How can you praise England when you call it a damp squib. Japan are no criteria to measure anything good by as you said expected to win. Englands backline has been poor for number of years, ford, Slade Lawrence never going to beat the worlds best.

[@Δανιήλ-ψ8χ]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@tonydolton4544]

South Africa are the number team, but then again they have all the best steroids…..when are you going to discuss this on your show…!!?

[@Jofuish]

Goode is such an awful pundit. Lazy outcome-based analysis

[@cameronstorey1983]

If anyone argues this as anything other than abject failure then you’re lost.I’m afraid you’ve drank too much of the Sweeneys Cool aid if borthwick goes anything less then 4-1 in the 6N he should be gone if he goes none for 3 in those first 3 games(which is most likely) if he is not changed mid tournament than England are not a serious rugby nation and we should dissolve and let the English players go make real money across the water.

[@rob.1]

Calm down

[@cameronstorey1983]

@ how does that boot taste like

[@dougclark9921]

1st

[@TheBoarder360]

and?

[@dougclark9921]

@@TheBoarder360 and what?

[@kenrehill8775]

Has Borthwicks coach loss rate equalled Eddie’s yet? Can’t be far away and in less time.

[@davidspendlove5900]

Eddie had the best win percentage ever I think.

[@kenrehill8775]

@ he did, and was sacked for having a better win rate in the last 12 months of being Ng the head coach, than borthwick

[@AntSudbury-tv3we]

Borthwick out now,

[@LiverPools-ib5fv]

England are 💩. Come on lads. Stop it now. They're easily 4th best in the 6 nations. France no.1. Ireland 2nd. Scotland a very close 2nd but are 3rd because they struggle to beat Ireland. Wales obviously 5th and itlay last. Globally, England will knocked out quick. Absolutely no chance they're beating SA , NZ, or France at any given time with that squad. England will be a 50/50 with Australia and Argentina

[@mikestrutter1274]

Smith can't kick,... period.

[@angelaizen2231]

You what? 😅 90% success rate in the series? Can't kick? You're actually delusional.

[@mikestrutter1274]

@angelaizen2231 yawn.... go back over the last 10 matches he has played and see how many kicks he has missed that a 14 year old could make..... let me start you off with the Japan game....

[@angelaizen2231]

@mikestrutter1274 I was at the japan game. Smith missed 2 kicks, and both were from near the touchline. Every other game, he has missed almost nothing. George Ford missed easier kicks in the games he played.

[@mikestrutter1274]

@angelaizen2231 1 was near the touchline, the 1 that hit the post was an easy kick. I agree Ford has reached his sell by date. At International level you can't miss the kicks that smith misses. Not a bad player in an attacking sense, defensively weak....

[@angelaizen2231]

@@mikestrutter1274 bro, he missed 1 easy kick. The best 10s in the world all miss easy kicks sometimes. Look at the boks current 10, Libbok. He misses so many easy kicks sometimes. He's still an absolutely phenomenal 10. Fly halves have WAY more to do on a field than just kick for goals. Smith has a better kicking percentage than most 10s currently. The only players with higher accuracy have been playing international rugby for YEARS longer than smith has.