it's kinda ironic that they killed CSGO to not fracture the playerbase and now are fracturing the playerbase with being incapable of introducing a good server browser and proper community server support that not breaks everything.
@lankymario71894 ай бұрын
more concurrent players than ever, only ppl who say CS is dead are the few who are repeating what they heard and dont play the game in the first place
@MisterDerpa4 ай бұрын
@@lankymario7189 More players than ever because of Chinese bot farms, the game has been trending down in the west for a while now. You must be naive to not be aware of the Chinese idle bot farms with thousands of computers / accounts.
@xClown554 ай бұрын
back to css surfing after 10 years
@LLyric_4 ай бұрын
@lankymario7189 bots lol
@lankymario71894 ай бұрын
@@MisterDerpa even if you take out the bot farm, it still have higher player count than most if not all 'popular' online games in the market like Valorant/Siege etc.
@irakli584 ай бұрын
im taking a huge dump rn wish me luck hope nothing tears
@Tourretic4 ай бұрын
Good luck
@ViennaSteeler4 ай бұрын
Keep us updated on the situation
@Lamb6664 ай бұрын
Just imagine it’s your prison roommate you love, makes you relax the muscles more and you sure you imagine it’s them pulling out.
@theokayishgamer4 ай бұрын
Good luck brotha
@rezlevin64244 ай бұрын
praying for you bro
@drakeusmaximus24594 ай бұрын
Didn't try surfing till cs2. You don't need to be a long time surfer to know that running into a ramp bug every 3 attempts is not right.
@StevenP7264 ай бұрын
yea its always been awful but cs2 is unplayable, if you can even find a server, buy cs:s and play surf where people actually care about it
@dahyperhawk4 ай бұрын
@@StevenP726 i have never run into a ramp bug in csgo or source in hundreds of surf hours. its never been awful
@Bozopack4 ай бұрын
Play kitsune there are no bugs
@ignatirabo4 ай бұрын
Tried couple days ago and the ramp bug is quite bad
@cwill21274 ай бұрын
@@dahyperhawkyeah because you max out on tier 1 maps lol
@CantFightRobots4 ай бұрын
I just wish that everything wouldn't just keep getting worse and worse online. Everywhere you look every service gets worse and more expensive all the time. Shit is mad depressing.
@zZGzHD4 ай бұрын
yeah :(
@jejxkxk4 ай бұрын
It’s not actually that bad. Try not to spend too much time on social media. These people make money off your engagement. Do you know what emotion makes human engage the most? It’s anger. So this is always going to be the type of shit you see, but in reality, there is a lot of good happening when you just take your eyes off the media for a while
@alexjeffrey39814 ай бұрын
It's capitalism, baby
@PsychoticPanda_4 ай бұрын
Buddy just joined the real world. Welcome. How nice of you to join us.
@nade55573 ай бұрын
@jejxkxk but he's right. You can ignore social media and turn off the news, but you still end up with companies asking $100 for some half baked monetised battle pass pay to win "AAA" slop. Or the example of the video, a "sequel" or "major update" to the game that is just worse in all the ways that matter (apart from new smoke grenades). If you haven't noticed the shocking downtrend in quality amongst every product and service in recent years, you are living under a rock. Its quite insane that a mcchicken from macdonalds that used to be 1 dollar and now should be 1.70 dollars because of inflation is actually something like 2.40 dollars. These are just a handful of examples
@Its_Dnnny4 ай бұрын
i literally cant find ANY servers when clicking on the server browser button so its really sad to see it this way
@Oceanman7054 ай бұрын
you can still connect to servers as long as you knew what the host was called, they have ip addresses on their websites
@kenaboss45274 ай бұрын
theres a cs2 browser website 100x better
@bc43914 ай бұрын
Click on the search button
@Failman644 ай бұрын
google for cybershock there are a lot of surf servers rn.
@DISCONSOLATION4 ай бұрын
CSS
@catfoosh63814 ай бұрын
fun fact, there's a sourcemod plugin in team fortress 2 to fix ramp bugs and it works pretty well. If a rampbug is detected it pushes you slightly out of the ramp. Shout out to ya boi bshear
@kshimi4 ай бұрын
they have this for surf too, its just not perfect
@kototototototototototototototo4 ай бұрын
yeah, but in cs2 you lose your time to break your pb
@newjuls3 ай бұрын
bshear
@suudzzz33734 ай бұрын
Ramp bug is so common now. Shame it isn't as fun as csgo or css
@wazzalord34 ай бұрын
man, i remember back in 2004/05 waking up at my friends place at like 6 am to go play on the surf servers, good times
@robqqq4 ай бұрын
It's crazy to think that 2004 is the nostalgic time for u since I was born then.
@Buddychronic4 ай бұрын
Life is fleeting
@wazzalord34 ай бұрын
@@robqqq born in 96 so yeah... very much middle of my childhood there, funny thing is that im currently playing a game from the same era (but reboot) so im super in the middle of nostalgia trip these past few months
@ТодорБогосављевић4 ай бұрын
@@wazzalord3 what game are you playing?
@wazzalord34 ай бұрын
@@ТодорБогосављевић a game called FlyFF Universe, which is a reboot of 2007 version for FlyFF
@RiggedandReady4 ай бұрын
Wow. Surf egypt. That brings me right back to my childhood.
@RichRadd4 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, good times Were you playing prior to people changing the airaccelerate to 100? Making surf egypt actually a difficult map in the whole scheme of things
@RiggedandReady4 ай бұрын
@RichRadd You know, I'm not sure! It's likely, considering that I have been playing CS on and off since the start. I was born in 1992, but I was playing CS with my step-dad and uncles as early as 2000. I remember pre-steam. CS was hosted on GameSpy! It's hard to recall all those little details, especially since I would eventually get way more into the CyberAthleticLeague side of things and then later quit gaming for a few years. I do remember all the silly maps and mods my friends and I would play late at night during the summers in ventrillo, though. Egypt. Rats. The HE tennis maps. 45hp knife maps like Legoland. Warcraft3 mod maps. All of the KZ maps. I really miss those guys. We all lost touch. We're all 30+ now. I remember one summer Circa 2004. I barely went outside, and I was just rotating CS, Diablo 2, Runescape. Longwinded but... speaking of good times :D
@nyantend04 ай бұрын
banger pfp btw love oso oso
@RiggedandReady4 ай бұрын
@nyantend0 Yunahon Mixtapes is one of my favorite albums. Oso oso is my favorite indie/emo band of the last 10 years. I'm excited for the new album, sore thumb was just OK for me. Cheers bro
@nexs4n4 ай бұрын
I wouldve loved for you guys to show what momentummod is doing for the movement community rn. They are literally creating a whole new game with a heavy focus on all source based movement games
@catethps3 ай бұрын
momentum mod is truly the way these days, it includes not only surf/bhop but tf2 rocket/sticky jumping, sliding, quake 3 race maps this and CS:S are what people should be playing rn
@nexs4n3 ай бұрын
@@catethps yeah literally I just surf for fun but when I do I just hop on css until momentum mod launches
@catethps3 ай бұрын
@@nexs4n i forgot its not out yet 😅 ive been in the closed access and its an amazing platform for movement games shoutout gocnak the GOAT
@dolphinii36734 ай бұрын
got into cs in 2015 and enjoyed the game a lot, but I met someone in matchmaking and he started surfing after our game. it absolutely changed my life and I absolutely would not stop surfing, and still do it quite frequently. a couple of notes I have about this vid (repster did a really good job with the main reasons for cs2 surf dying) in regards to surf as a whole: yes, people do take it that seriously. think of it as a speedrunning community, where people are constantly trying to innovate on new maps, or grind out small improvements on older maps. the best part about surfing is you don't have to be the best in the world to feel satisfaction, you can just enjoy the feeling of getting a new personal best. some of my favorite feelings is playing a map I haven't played in a while and destroying my time because I have improved so much since last time I played that map. the other major thing is the movement communities seem to be in a sort of limbo right now. i will say for myself, that I haven't been surfing as much recently because it feels like it won't be as enjoyable or gratifying until momentum mod comes out. if you don't know about momentum mod look it up, its basically a standalone surf game and is going to be amazing, it is just being done by a small dev team out of passion and they will slowly but surely put it out and it will most definitely revive interest in the gamemode. until then, its either buy counter strike source, struggle through cs2, or play on a much smaller community (tf2, cs 1.6, roblox etc)
@pitzo55554 ай бұрын
I wish cs2 was never a thing and we stuck with csgo
@kenaboss45274 ай бұрын
agreed 😢
@theodorebagwell4204 ай бұрын
Same. There was nothing wrong with csgo. They should have just brought 128 tick mm and that would have been enough.
@stryk3rsandwich5784 ай бұрын
+1 to this, give back csgo
@noface72864 ай бұрын
@@theodorebagwell420 they also should have fixed the anti cheat instead of making a new game
@vpat88244 ай бұрын
@@theodorebagwell420 I have to disagree. Saying there was nothing wrong with CS:GO is like saying "there is nothing wrong with horses. We never should have invented cars". Valve pushed the Source 1 engine to its absolute limits which made development more complicated as time went on. They made the right decision to rewrite the game on a new engine to make future development and support easier for the devs.
@RuukuLada4 ай бұрын
thanks for putting this out there, and props to repster for covering it continuously
@georgebraymusic4 ай бұрын
I can confirm that CSS was not only the best version of CS to surf on, but the best version of CS period. As someone who played CS since the WON days (before Steam), CSS simply provided me with the most fun both in community servers, and in a competitive environment playing in CEVO and ESEA. I will admit though, playing some of the old aim maps on 1.5/1.6 were a ton of fun, and the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne server mods made the game absolutely absurd with all the things it added. I remember renting a server on 1.5, cancelling my payment after a month or 2, and then finding that they apparently forgot about it and left it up with full access to modify the server for over a year.
@RozKounelakion2 ай бұрын
Nostalgia: the comment
@evilsqirrel4 ай бұрын
Here's hoping Momentum Mod actually decides to go into a live/ complete state sometime this decade.
@ilywayside4 ай бұрын
It will forsure lol, If you haven't had a chance to test it yet I'll just let you know its pretty solid.
@William473453 ай бұрын
he codes on twitch daily. for the last how many years. go ask him when hes live.
@insideblankoutsideАй бұрын
Momentum Mod will be publicly available when the 0.10 update comes out, unless something goes horribly wrong that will be this year.
@RealGeneral4 ай бұрын
KZ is also pretty bad now
@LLyric_4 ай бұрын
Ownage
@datmanjay4204 ай бұрын
I want to play kreedz. I think they have a way for you to play on GO, but I'm not sure.
@or4ngeju1ce614 ай бұрын
@@datmanjay420 kreedz has multiple csgo kz servers open
@Joyexer4 ай бұрын
6:05
@dark-jq4vi4 ай бұрын
@@datmanjay420 you can still play kz on the legacy version of csgo but the community server browser doesnt work so you need to have the server ips saved
@papapoljak4 ай бұрын
When I clicked on the Video, I hoped to see repster, very glad you talked to him to make this video! Very good research guys!
@what18944 ай бұрын
There's a project called momentum mod that aims to combine many different source movement mods into one game it's genuinely sick
@WhatAMagician4 ай бұрын
The type of people who make community mods and stuff are moving to the fortnite/epic, or roblox environment or just making their own games. It’s never been easier to make a game. Why make a free mod that’s liable to break when you can develop a mod in a monetized environment or your own game and self publish? When the source 2 environment lacks documentation, guides, support, and monetization? It’s the complete opposite of what source used to be.
@JerryO19954 ай бұрын
Source 2 doesn't lack documentation, guides or support. It's all in the same place as that same content for Source. About monetization, there wasn't for Source either.
@WhatAMagician4 ай бұрын
@@JerryO1995 yea there wasn’t monetization for source but there were not a ton of competing monetized models. It wasn’t as easy to watch a KZbin guide and make a game in unreal or unity. It is a completely different environment and the kinds of people who made these tools and resources for old source games are no longer captured by this ecosystem. It’s no longer the place where fun innovations happen. It’s a empty nearly abandoned mall in a death spiral while more and more stores close and less and less shops open up
@lamvu20824 ай бұрын
This isn't limit to only surfers, but for the majority of community servers, majority of CS's playerbase come from community server which is not supported very well currently. I think their main focus right now is on the competitive side of the game, if they really want the player base back, they should also focus on the community side as well.
@gee_4 ай бұрын
I clocked up 5k hours on CSS solely playing community servers, scouts knives, gungame, breakfloor, zombie, dm, nades only, etc. When GO released that was all gone, so that's when I first started playing competitive and I've always hated it, all the sweaty camping, holding angles, nerdy nade lineups and microsecond timing etc was just never my play style. I just want to hold W and click heads. In fact I even switched to Battlefield 3 for several years because it was way more loose and fun.
@kacidy4 ай бұрын
SAME. Thats why I really miss "Flying scoutsman", 5v5 unranked and still spend a good portion of my time playing Casual. It gets tiresome telling the tryhards to chill tf out, its just a game, its supposed to be fun and if its making you angry and do actual WORK to even feel like its worthwhile maybe the problem isnt your teammates letting you down. Maybe its your attitude. I've pretty much abandoned Mirage. Its a drowning hazard with all the sweat in there. Luckily Office and Nuke have retained a bit of the fun-first culture from yesteryear. Though Nuke is really its own kind of tryhard haven, not for winning or lineups but for movement enthusiasts looking for clips like they're all gonna be the next FranzJ 😮💨
@gee_4 ай бұрын
@@kacidy so true. 99% of the CS player base act like they're pros or making money from their 7 twitch viewers 😂😂
@machine.grundberg4 ай бұрын
main reason i still play CSS most of the time is the community servers. dedicated people currating an actual community makes for a better playing experience.
@pod47074 ай бұрын
Are css community servers still alive? I used to play zombie escape a lot. I was thinking about going back to css..
@ethhics3 ай бұрын
@@pod4707 yes, very. CSS is THE community gamemode game in the counter strike franchise
@BxPanda74 ай бұрын
Peak cs for me was surf AND zombies, on 1.6 surf_ski2, nothing can beat the feeling you get when you're the last human, surfing as fast as possible while dodging a server full of zombies trying to hit you, knowing that if you mess up just a little and fall, you're cooked
@ImNotGam4 ай бұрын
I like that this shows people that surf and other ways to play exist. Nice vid.
@tewzdae86614 ай бұрын
0:55 *stages or long continuous maps. Not a big deal, but tiers are the skill level of maps and stages are sections within a map. Thank you for participating in the surf community and bringing it to more people's radar, love the content:)
@dooooopy31634 ай бұрын
TLDR; small pixels on the surfs ramp that blocks you and it’s happening more frequent in cs2.
@marcedoreste4 ай бұрын
Still waiting for momentum mod
@MrGemyStone4 ай бұрын
In csgo there used to be so many populated 5v5 Community Competitive servers that let you use ANY SKIN you wanted.
@Ang3lUki4 ай бұрын
I predicted this. Dota 2 reborn also had a very wide gamut of issues and problems, and it didn't even have community servers and maps yet.
@FutherGaming4 ай бұрын
Funny thing about that random pixel appearing on ramp, it's not only on surf. I noticed a lot of times I would be stuck just by playing regular maps, like pixel blocks or smthing where it should not had.
@WorldWendell4 ай бұрын
The new server browser feature in cs2 is actually so abysmal. Its so hard to find shit to the point where it almost feels like its on purpose.
@chost-0594 ай бұрын
CS2 is suffering from the same neglect and ignorance from valve as tf2 does, valve just doesnt care about things like this
@donger29832 ай бұрын
I miss surf_ski and the other combat surfing servers in csgo so bad. 2015 and 2016 community servers were some of the best times to have been playing the game. It will be missed and cherished dearly. ❤
@MrCatnip112 ай бұрын
I miss surfing man, just chill listen to music and try and beat my time over and over...
@sethcrippsgaming58662 ай бұрын
ik its not the same without the models and skins but tf2 surf is virtually identical
@MrCatnip112 ай бұрын
@@sethcrippsgaming5866 I acutally figured out how to join servers, Just need their ip from the game servers and you do connect with the ip in console on CSGO, not cs2 and it works wonders
@XC113019914 ай бұрын
Let's be real, Valve is not what it was. The fact they treat CS2 and TF2 so poorly says a lot. They dont have any engagement with the community and do very little to innovate or address issues quickly with their games. Deadlock also being their next indevelopment game shows their hand on what they are focusing on.
@SleepyV3rt4 ай бұрын
This is what happens when people keep giving valve a pass for releasing a half ass game. GAMES NEED TO BE FUNCTIONAL ON RELEASE.Not fix it on the go, like a live game bs
@sukese.cinematics4 ай бұрын
you cannot release a fully ready game nowadays anymore. things are way to complex and become even complexer when facing a multimillion onlinecommunity. It was like this and it always will be like this. yes you can build tetris maybe without ever updatimg it, but not a game like CS with new engine. Be patient or come back when its ready
@SleepyV3rt4 ай бұрын
@@sukese.cinematics You can for sure release a working game, with good anti-cheat on release. Thats how games were, and are with so many sp games and mp games. E.g. Balders gate and Helldivers. They released it unfinished because they know people fans like you won't question it ........ this is just sad
@DesolateLavender4 ай бұрын
@sukese.cinematics Ah, I see. So all those games that have released that weren't broken on release don't exist. The hundreds of thousands of games. Yup. No Mario games have released. Pikmin 4? Nah. Helldivers 2? Guess not. Trepang²? Never happened. Half-Life: Alyx??? Definitely not. But what do I know?
@SleepyV3rt4 ай бұрын
@@DesolateLavender Great mindset. If someone is producing shit, then i am gonna keep eating that shit and not complain. When Sony messed with helldivers PSN login requirement, literally more than half the community left the game and gave negative reviews. But I guess people just keep giving CS2 free pass.
@DesolateLavender4 ай бұрын
@@SleepyV3rt I'm gonna be real: I might be stupid, because I can't tell if you're agreeing with me, even after 3 rereads.
@mealbaffler4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I have been surfing for a long time ... my first surf map was surf_water_run and I remember surf_egypt well also. Videos like this help bring visibility to our beloved hobby. Mariowned is a super nice guy and is still around in the community. Mappers like Nyro with surf_Lt_omnific have made a longlasting impact on style that still resonates to this day. I am thankful for all the friends and memories Surfing has given me over the decades! PS: CS:Source surfing is still the best aint no question
@crippys4 ай бұрын
for me, when I click on the community server tab, it tabs out my game and the window pops up on my desktop and then I have to open cs2 again only to minimize when I click inside the community server tab
@JohnDoe-uq2qd2 ай бұрын
I used to surf a ton back in the day, and I recently just tried it again in CS2 for the first time. The ramp glitches were unbearable, I was getting one nearly every other attempt. I thought it was just an issue with the specific server I was on, but hearing that it's game wide is concerning news.
@ssjohnson25324 ай бұрын
this is what thescore needed on their channel surf should be recognised more, its so skillfull
@joshiemah4 ай бұрын
I like cs2 but csgo surfing / kz / bhop is just better. Idk wtf it is, but idc if they fix servers, ramp bug, or optimization. I'm always gonna just launch csgo when i join a movement server. They got !ws as well so thats a bonus
@kakak973 ай бұрын
Back in my day I was a god at "Hide'N'Seek", it was massively popular, I've had my own servers with 30 people every single day inside, but as CS:GO came, CS2, etc it slowly died, and I moved away I log-in occasionally to this day for the nostalgia
@DarkysLPs4 ай бұрын
I was by no means an expert at surfing but some of my fondest CS memories are associated with surfing in CS Source
@XionicalXionical4 ай бұрын
YES THANKS FOR COVERING THIS. MORE PEOPLE NEED TO SURF / AT LEAST KNOW ABOUT SURFING.
@totalbrootalАй бұрын
Your best option for surfing is KSF servers on CS:S. Momentum Mod is also good but not widely available yet. CS:GO surf servers are supposedly still accessible through the legacy version
@AyyyyUhhhh28 күн бұрын
Surf map conversations are crazy lol such good times
@bermuda3333 ай бұрын
I'm a hobbyist bunnyhop / kz mapper (I go by _max). I made a bunch of bhop maps ~2018 - 2020 for CSS before transitioning to KZ maps for CSGO in 2021. While the Source 2 engine is a mindboggling upgrade for hobbyists like myself and allows so much more customization than Hammer previously ever could allow, the sheer lack of Valve's attempts at maintaining a community space are why I just... haven't bothered. I was really excited to try CS2 and make some new KZ maps, but there's practically zero community support (the community IS working towards something new though!) and the lack of Valve even attempting to mitigate problems like the browser make it so... uninviting for a mapper. It's like Valve set off a fucking bomb and just demolished so much we had built over the past 12 years. At this point I've just gone back to CSS maps. Not that I want to - the CSS version of Hammer is even more deprecated than CSGO's was - but the communities (especially Surf and Bhop) still exist and still have a space that they've carved out in the game, primarily because CSGO didn't fucking *replace* CSS like CS2 did with GO. It's just so much easier to make and share maps when the community has existed for almost 20 years. I really hope Valve can come to their senses and FINALLY give these communities the recognition they truly deserve, because otherwise they're just on the brink of death. So many wonderful people who are WAY smarter than me are working really hard but it seems like they're trying to rebuild something with a fraction of the enthusiasm they had in 2012 / 2013. It's sad.
@JayTheReaper4 ай бұрын
As a surfer, it really hurts my heart.
@deadzulu78363 ай бұрын
I'm 90% sure that there is a plugin that fixes rampbugging, but very few servers use it due to the fact that it causes immense lag
@MrSmexy7024 ай бұрын
I used to surf a little bit in cscz. But i loved scoutz_knivez and Kz_mountain climbers in cscz
@flytelp4 ай бұрын
I’ve been surfing in css since cs2 came out and honestly it’s chill. New graphics will be hype but css will always be there for us.
@emils67344 ай бұрын
momentum mod is our saviour
@larry22814 ай бұрын
No.
@gamax42544 ай бұрын
Have been waiting for access for 2 years
@emils67344 ай бұрын
@@gamax4254 same bro :D and some of my friends have gotten it the next day of requesting
@thatguyuknow44954 ай бұрын
at the end dude just named off all my childhood severs
@skizzarz4 ай бұрын
you might be the most lovable thescore representative, good vid!
@Ozbey14 ай бұрын
thanks for raising youre voice for them
@Krombo174 ай бұрын
im still waiting for combat surf and scout knives to make its comeback
@aboxthatdrools4 ай бұрын
I'll play Roblox Surf for now.
@alex140i312 күн бұрын
to those who want to surf until cs2 is fixed roblox has a surf game with some of the popular maps ported over
@slowmow3104 ай бұрын
I clicked on the globe button in cs2 the one for community servers, zero cs2 servers, but I saw a server from DayZ, clicked on it, and I was already in DayZ on the server, having good time talking and stabbing random innocent people for duct tape, truly a good CS experience
@floff79224 ай бұрын
Shout out to FragSurf which was created for combat surfers. It feels very similar to surfing in cs.
@floff79224 ай бұрын
its also free
@br34d864 ай бұрын
Hopefully this will revive CS:S surfing. And then people playing CS:S surfing might just play normal CS:S
@phongme4 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if valve would publish an offical surf gamemode with leaderboard and a mappool
@wm15734 ай бұрын
I have played the cs franchise on and off since around 2003 and 75-80% of my game time is in community servers, mainly KZ and surf. This situation is just sad..
@PlaaasmaMC4 ай бұрын
I think this is a good time to say that I'm working on a minecraft mod to implement surfing and bhopping into minecraft. We currently just have air strafing and bhopping but we're working on surf :)
@williamthesloth4 ай бұрын
Regarding the server browser, it's almost impossible to find any server you can connect to that is solid in any way. I play on EU server with t5-t8 maps which can be done in CS2, but the amount of ramp stutters is horrendours. I cannot say if it's servers/engines fault, but the state valve released the server browsing experience worst that it's ever been in any of their games, including HL1.
@synapses997316 күн бұрын
I actually just bought CS:Source in order to try the old multiplayer. Not many people play normal DE on Source publicly, but surf on the other hand… I never have to wait long 😂
@ehd3r3hab44 ай бұрын
They need to add +stage back and change the +left /+right speeds back to what they were in CS go
@DageLV2 ай бұрын
1:00 one of your first cs experiences were a surf map.... Yeah and the first time i picked up CSGO i accidentally entered pro league tournament and won 0:16 knife only.
@DaryonGaming4 ай бұрын
here i was wishing theyd incorporate surfing officially into CS and valve kills the whole scene instead it's crazy
@DanielJParish4 ай бұрын
The audio cut at 5:06 seems very unintentional. Unsure if that's the kind of thing @theScore esports will care to fix, but one can dream.
@dotnet9830Ай бұрын
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@Littlefighter19112 ай бұрын
3:20 Valve has not given any plugin support in ages. The source engine just had only minor adjustments over the ages so modders (and cheaters) could keep up with the changes easily. Metamod still doesn't have up-to-date structure definitions and the modding community won't be able to rely on public SDK sources anymore as they've done in the past. Also, it's not like Valve needs to give any support anymore. The reverse engineering tools are far enough already to allow people to figure out the structures, without Valve ever having to assist someone and thereby putting them in a worse legal position, for example when trying to fight production of cheat tools.
@onikrux3 ай бұрын
bring back csgo as cs:classic. a 1:1 copy of the last update of CS:GO (or whatever the community could agree was the best patch) to properly support community browsers and let players experience what once was.
@bigfootsdecendant5943 ай бұрын
momentum mod on steam has been a decent substitute
@scchharoundthecorner4 ай бұрын
Glad to see a channel this big discussing this
@anoobplays3864 ай бұрын
I miss surf combat maps.
@NotTheDotDot2 ай бұрын
Valve actually doing something with tf2 now, lets hope the same goes for CS
@qazwsx63403 ай бұрын
sur is still going strong in source. seriously if you wanna surf just shell out the $15 for it, servers still active and has the biggest map pool.
@Chicagoben4 ай бұрын
Simple man I see Repster I upvote
@kadavercade35974 ай бұрын
It's super rare to encounter a ramp bug in csgo.
@chungushook4 ай бұрын
same happened to KZ btw. i grinded that mode so hard for a few k hours, but its basically dead now.
@hung89692 ай бұрын
7800 hours in cs surfing/bhop. I maybe have played 5-10 actual cs games. Played maybe 10 mins of cs2 surf and immediately uninstalled & negative review. Took my favorite hobby away
@baldwintheanchorite4 ай бұрын
All pro surfing takes place in CS Source because the lighter client = more ticks = more speed and because other commands like cl_yawspeed exist which do not in GO and 2 which allow you to adjust the sensitivity of your turn binds. other factors like smaller player models also play a part in that. I don't see that changing any time soon. While it's nice for Valve to fix surfing in CS2, its mostly for casual surfers.
@Mulppy4 ай бұрын
I think your intro is said it perfect. When cs2 dropped CS lost its identity.
@it_rocks2 ай бұрын
PLS bring back minigames, ppl
@NaoKeysVT4 ай бұрын
i actually haven't had the ramp bug happen to me that much, but the awful server browser makes it annoying to play on surf servers. The old server browser may not be great, but it worked and holds a lot of nostalgia.
@Ixxlostinabox2 ай бұрын
Surfing nearly died with CSGO release as well, give it time and the community will find a way.
@CedricSchoene4 ай бұрын
valve tends to forget that their users are their most valuable asset
@centuryt91Ай бұрын
2 months later. the server browser still tabs out of the game and is broken
@ShadyLife1014 ай бұрын
Ngl I thought it was just me who keeps sticking on ramps
@ShadeAnris4 ай бұрын
Valve try not to be neglectful to it’s players challenge: impossible
@kswag4 ай бұрын
we got digital divide in cs2 before gta 6
@costbubbles83363 ай бұрын
Momentum mod needs to come out soon
@byronlefevre82663 ай бұрын
me who only plays surf on gmod and has never touched cs surf.
@crux93903 ай бұрын
I know ill stand pretty alone in my opinion. but despite the problems with cs2, I enjoy it. and I enjoy the few surf servers I have. and only one is actually problematic with curved surf walls, im not the most try hard surfer. but most of the maps Ive played dont actually have issues of ramp glitches and snags. I do want my KZ back though I have yet to even play it on cs2. however, I hadn't played csgo in so long before it switched to cs2 that I cannot mentally compare the two on my own feelings. yes I played csgo for YEARS but being so detached actually helped me see it as a new game and not able to identify the specific nuances of the differences. again Im not defending Valve. but cs2 has been ALOT of fun for me to play recently. and as such I have a lot of hope for the next year or two years for them to kick it back into gear and see it grow for years to come. i hope.....
@LuvU2x4 ай бұрын
Csgo surfing is what first got me into cs I’ve tried it on cs2 a handful of times and have been so disappointed. The shiny new thing is nice, but the thing working is much more important
@jlin54594 ай бұрын
This is actually really interesting, cause yesterday I was looking at trying to surf (haven't really played cs2 since it came out), and I tried to use the community browser and it wont even load anything. Thought it was just broken, sucks this is like a big issue.
@xsv-4 ай бұрын
VALVE PLEASE FIX. I'm tired of shooting. I just want to slide those triangles.
@kieranzgoku4 ай бұрын
It's really a shame that a lot of the simple things in this game still aren't even fixed or released after this much time of the game being released.
@snipeleads66674 ай бұрын
I probably got the best memories from back then jb in cs:s
@Occultastic4 ай бұрын
I actually thought I got worse at surfing when switching from CS:GO to CS2 because I always suddenly bumped into these bugs. I didn't know that they were a thing for many other people. I even bumped into the SAME EXACT SPOTS as shown in the video. huh...