These are a HUGE Upgrade to any RV, Trailer, or Boat! LION Energy LiFePo4 Batteries!

[@LordFalconsword]

At $900 each they should be delivered by a naked woman riding a unicorn.

[@Dangerous1904]

Yes and the woman also 😂

[@joeo7257]

I bought 8 6 volt batteries in 3.5 years. I'm donating my last set of four batteries after buying Battleborn Batteries. If I started with Lithium, I would have saved money. ...and I'll never buy any more in my lifetime!

[@billbertrand7751]

LOLHEHE

[@seadog2396]

Two naked women riding Unicorns! Good point, friend.

[@OWK000]

Costco had them on sale briefly during November 2019 for $649.

[@seadog2396]

Yep - while science is plodding forward in battery technology, it is unfortunate that, as usual, the latest advances are very expensive, making them out of the reach of the people who really need them. Of course, with time, the price will come down. To be sure, we need battery technology that far surpasses what Lion or LifePo technology is capable of currently. The development of electrical storage technology, right now, is as critical as the Space Race was in the early 60s. Let's go, People!

[@Fordlighting502]

The lion batteries have been tested by DIY solar power with Will Prowse here on KZbin. They don't meet what they are rated at. The manufacturer has over rated the battery capacity . Love your RV also did testing and took the battery apart.

[@Milesco]

@ William: Do you mean "Love Your RV" literally took the battery apart, or simply that he sharply criticized it?

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

Yup. They overpromise and underperform. Not a quality I like in a manufacture.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

Lion Energy thank you if you corrected your specs. You still earn a short ‘time out’ for putting the battery ‘in the wrong packaging’. Any factory deals if picked up in Utah?

[@d.pollard5962]

@@LionEnergy sell it cheaper to get it out there then. Give us a deal with JB. Make us your Ally🤔

[@quinnthorburn8948]

@@LionEnergy Have you sent Will one of your UT 1300 to test? since he tests all of the lithium batteries the same way. If these are better then BB at a lower price, will be a good way to clear up the packaging error

[@thechroniclesofmaintenance4192]

They cannot be charged below 32 deg F, may not matter in TX but elsewhere it can be a problem. I'd need to enclose and heat the battery rack on the motor home. That and the price is a deal breaker for me. For the price on just one of those, I can supply myself with very good lead acid power for decades. When the pricing gets more reasonable maybe, but not until then.

[@roncterry]

All you need to do is put them in a box with a 12v powered tank heating pad with built in thermostat hooked up to them and they will stay above freezing and still be able to accept a charge. (This is working very well for me). Connect them to a solar charge controller with a panel or two and they will stay topped off all winter. They charge so fast and the tank heater pad draws so little power it doesn’t take much sunshine to keep them charged. Keeping them cool it heat like you are describing is a bit more challenging though.

[@thechroniclesofmaintenance4192]

@@roncterry For me the technology just isn’t up to par right now to justify the outrageous price tag. I have no doubt that it will become more practical and cost effective sometime in the future as the technology advances, it just doesn’t make any sense for me at all right now. Especially when I can get 100+amp hour deep cycle batteries for under $200.00 each. Last winter we had several 27 degree nights at Hueco Tanks State Park in El Paso (no electric hookup) and they did just fine running the furnace overnight. If the cost was in line I may consider the necessary modifications to accommodate them, but not at that price point, just not worth it.

[@knarfster]

A lead acid has no where near the number of cycles. And these 2 100ah batteries actually supply 200ah, but that would take 4 Lead batteries because they shouldn't be discharged below 50% and they can't do that 2000+ times. LiFePo batteries are a lot cheaper over a 10 year period.

[@yelworb]

I agree the wiring is a mess. You should have a 180-200w of solar panel per battery and you should also have a Battery monitor system with a shunt so you know what the battery levels are at. Your mppt isn’t good enough for such a expensive battery system, you can’t control the charge rate accurately

[@rockdog2584]

Really nice lookin' set-up. The kind of stuff I wish I had myself. One piece of technical advice, however. Having worked in the RV repair industry for a number of years, I have garnered a fair amount of experience in working with 12/24 volt systems. One thing I learned is that you shouldn't have both of your charge/discharge leads attached to one battery. I would suggest moving the ground cable to the neg. post of the other battery. I know that it looks like it wouldn't make any difference but, trust me, it does. Now maybe this isn't as critical with LiFePo batteries as it is with lead/acid batteries. With l/a batteries, it would make a HUGE difference in the performance and longevity of the batteries. I would do it anyway, just to be on the safe side.

[@tylerb9808]

Great setup! Its a long shot, but I'd LOVE to see a sketch or a pdf of the wiring diagram you've got going on there. The quick disconnect, the inverter, the solar connect / charge controller the junction block, and all the other protection devices you've got installed. I'm sure it seems simple to install all of that since you've done it a lot, but seeing it drawn out on paper would be very cool..! Especially for this newbie! Just sayin!..haha

[@gizzmo2875]

To better balance the bank, you should connect to the positive and negative to opposite batteries. Better yet, connect each post to you trailer separately with as best as possible the same length and AWG of cable.

[@AdinoAdonai]

Lifetime means as long as the company makes the battery! They can't replace an item they dont make any more, with that said its longer than most warranties...but I like the specs! 👏

[@tracysmith7318]

For a perfect load share from each battery. . . . connect the +VE power lead on 1 battery terminal post and the -VE power lead on the other battery post. . . Still connected in Parallel. . . . Research google for clarity. . . Nice kit to. . .

[@TheSavvyCampers]

We have a couple of these in our trailer and are more than impressed as compared to our old lead acid. The price is the thing that can get you though unless you camp A LOT or need the extra amp hours boondocking.

[@mike_adams]

Do you have a video showing\installing the umbilical cord from the truck batts to the RedArc?

[@michealadams1206]

I really enjoyed your video & learned a lot! Now I need to learn all the intricacies of what you did & put together which I found to be fantastic & the way to go! It also makes intelligent sense to make a vehicle much more capable! Thank you Sir.

[@thecanadianrvrepairguy3062]

This is definitely the way to go. If you need the power and the durability then spend the money.

[@joeo7257]

I like the built in handles and the charge indicator The warrantee was my hold up to lithium until Battle Born resolved that concern with a long warrantee, but lifetime is better! He didn't talk about the battery management system. Is one built in to the battery. Is 90 amp/hrs the usable leaving 20% in reserve like Battle Born has with 100amp/hrs. How do you monitor these batteries other than the indicator? Generous gift!

[@fattie2550]

You will also have to upgrade your converter charger running those batteries.

[@MRwaterlicious]

I remember when AGM was the cream of the crop and now you can get them for peanuts. Eventually these will be peanuts. Right now they're toooooooo expensive....

[@LRBennettInc]

Can you mix this with a marine battery for the boat? Or would you have to replace both?

[@dalemarshall9736]

Love Your RV tested these on his channel and very impressed with their performance.

[@wushock92]

LiFePo batteries are becoming more popular in the ham radio community to power portable station setups. Great power solution

[@TheDesertdawg1]

I’m glad there were free. If your going to spend money then buy Battle Born batteries. I went with yellow top Optimas in my 5th wheel.

[@patricklindahl868]

Looks like you are supposed to remove the poles before using the screws. The poles are there for attaching with a clamp. That's why there are a wrench grip on the poles so you can unscrew them. You can also use these poles as nuts, unscrew them, attach the pole piece and tighten it with a wrench.

[@raymondschneider5217]

Looking forward to your updates/upgrades to the battery system; lithium sounds like a great way to go, if one can afford it. However, with the price/lifetime of lead-acid batt, it wouldn't take long to reach the cost of the lithium batteries. Thanks for the update and comparison reports in the future. Y'all Be Safe!

[@bowhunter1227]

I'm curious on how they work for you. LION Energy is a Chines company and from what I have read they save weight by having a brick style battery and making the shell very thin. in fact I've read they shouldn't be used in a high vibration application or in a moist environment because they're not sealed.

[@EWOverland]

These baterie can be used as starter ?

[@Fordgroup00]

I wish!! Cost point not prohibitive, though. We only use our rv maybe (6) times a year

[@kenp9469]

I have avoided the original lithium ion due to safety concerns. So I will be very interested in the results.

[@pauljanssen2624]

When paralleling batteries what are your series parallel always have the positive on one end and then negative on the other that way One battery doesn't receive more current than the others

[@evan002]

Can't wait for this technology to advance and have the price drop

[@MrTommy001]

Yeah, drop A LOT!!!!!

[@joeo7257]

I'll bet you are waiting on Champagne to come down to beer prices. Lithium batteries cost more because they are better. Buy these once and you are done for your lifetime.

[@MrTommy001]

@@joeo7257 I think they are still in their infancy. I'll give them more time to 'fine tune' this technology.

[@scottfranson4215]

I like your approach to change through Infomation education GOOD VIDEO`S

[@toddramsay977]

Why is your batteries at a 45 degree angle to the corner of your trailer? Is that for camera shoot? Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@BTBRVReviews]

That's the wedge front of the trailer

[@bradwilliams4921]

Should the concerns that require these batteries to be shipped by ground be taken into consideration when placing them in your camper?

[@BTBRVReviews]

It's federal law

[@bradwilliams4921]

I guess what I meant is should the reason they are kept off airplanes be used as a reason to keep them out of your camper? As I understand it, they are flammable.

[@Milesco]

@@bradwilliams4921 : A legitimate question, but my understanding is that the flammability issue is more with the older lithium ion _polymer_ batteries as opposed to the newer lithium _iron phosphate_ ones, which are far less prone to thermal runaway and fire.

[@KD0CAC]

No mention of a BMS - Battery Management System ? Most do not get that if you compare any other battery chemistry - that the long life / performance of lithium over time COSTS FAR LESS THAN ANY OTHER BATTERY CHEMISTRY - assuming you do not get over charged from your source .

[@tombaker5451]

I feel like something that would benefit you with inverters or AC power devices is an automatic transfer switch. I was able to build one with UL hardware (not cheap stuff from China) for about $60CAD. As opposed to amazon’s cheap Chinese supply at about $100CAD.

[@laronis]

I wonder how the $400 Redarc DC to DC charger compares to the $140 Renogy DC to DC charger?

[@BTBRVReviews]

I think the Amazon reviews on both speak for themselves.

[@laronis]

@@BTBRVReviews Yeah i agree, i checked Amazon first also. Too bad the Redarc did so badly (only 1 review in over one year, yikes!), but they look nice anyway. I purchased the 20 amp Renogy instead of the 40 amp to be safe on alternator over heating. The Renogy seems to be really well made, but the instructions are just terrible. It is obvious to me that there was no proofreading first.

[@Blakehx]

Wow those are super nice... like the Rolls-Royce of batteries! I guess that explains the price!

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

Blakehx battle born are the cream of the crop. Lie-n-energy have been proved on KZbin many times to overstate their capacity. Battle born under rated their capacity. But any competition is welcomed to help bring the price down.

[@bobspamail]

I wonder how they compare to Battle Born.

[@BTBRVReviews]

I'd say equally.

[@d.pollard5962]

For the price they better be equally

[@bobspamail]

I just found Will Prowse did a tear down and test on both the Lion and Battle Born. Lion kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3vEfGqcf5mah7c Battle Born kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWaoZGOrYptpjKs Very interesting results.

[@gladeejennings7352]

How can you say equally when you never tested them or took them apart. Pretty strong statement with nothing to back it.

[@joeo7257]

Both MAJOR advancements. I prefer Battle Born for more capacity. 100 amp/hrs rather than 90, and BB support is spectacular!

[@MarkRVillano]

Are the light gray pieces on the top of either side, handles?

[@BTBRVReviews]

Yes sir

[@duckslave]

Are these batteries a true “drop-in” replacement for my 12v lead acid Winnebago house batteries without modifying the charging system? Great video!

[@MrTommy001]

No.

[@BrokeGuyBBQ]

They will work in place of a lead acid yes. But wont be at their full potential without the correct converter/solar charger.

[@duckslave]

Anthony morel - thanks!!

[@d.pollard5962]

Just what I was intending to do to my cargo trailer so this will be of great help. Thanks JD. Also another great video and resource. Too bad they cost so much. I will buy 2 at the 699 range not this 900 to 1000 threshold. Help find a company in the 600 range to share with your viewers with a 20% discount when you buy 2 or more I need 4 for the trailer and 2 for my 30 ft cargo trailer. Good luck 👍

[@NycCitizen]

These are a great idea BUT for northern climates not very practical because most manufacturers have a battery management system in place that prevents charging when the temps get below 32 F ....some manufactures have figured out a way to be able to discharge them at 24F BUT you can’t recharge them until the temps climb back up to 32F. Dec , Jan, feb are 32F and below months .......so these would be a no go .

[@danielcarlsen2217]

These don’t rise the Li on battery any, warranty the same as all the others in this range.

[@randydavis9324]

My trailer has a GoPower 5000 watt inverter that runs off of 6 6 volt deep cycle batteries in series/parallel to get 12 volts.replacing the batteries with 6 new 12 volt lipo batteries would cost almost $6000. How do I get them to send me free ones like they did you? LOL

[@fredthompson2501]

You need to hook up the ground to the first battery. Balance the load on a two battery set up

[@BTBRVReviews]

This video was just an intro video. I plan on cleaning up the wiring and getting additional pieces that I only thought of after getting everything connected initially.

[@d.pollard5962]

@@BTBRVReviews Please do a step by step video so I know what to buy and how to put it together

[@SCUBADUDESMITTY]

just saw the site,at 999 EACH,-in the immortal words of cheech & chong,--YOUR OUT OF YOUR FRICKEN MIND !!!

[@paullundell8009]

You stated you did not want to swap out the entire system on your 5th wheel to put these in? Unless your solar charger is not capable of lithium or your charging from your tow vehicle(that might need checking). Why would they not just replace the current batteries? Which could be put back in if you change trailers? How you used them in your cargo trailer is such an unused potential of these batteries (I think).

[@malenatully]

I guess it’s a high quality battery

[@dougmc666]

Although these have similarities to automotive batteries, they are not drop in replacements as they may cause "possible damage to your alternator"

[@tylergamester2179]

I just tried to buy one but it says "SOLD OUT"

[@d.pollard5962]

That's what happens when JD, KYD, or LJMJ recommend's or shows you something. Give it a week or two and they will be back in stock. I just checked. Back in stock at 999.00 so make sure you use his code.

[@michaeldoherty2289]

You lucked out. They are not a well made battery. Buy a Battleborn or a Relion.

[@russellesimonetta3835]

$900? On a boat that,s cool. That,s in battleborn price range and cheaper thsn most.

[@andyr5389]

I work on industrial batteries (inc lithium ion). 1.Pro- Lithium ion maintains voltage better vs lead acid. 2. Con- Lithium ion needs a special charger that does not have an equalization mode and will not go over 15V. 3. These 2-12V in parallel at 105Ah each is 210Ah. Vs 2 - 6V at 225Ah equals 225Ah. You get more reserve capacity with 6v. (12V wet batteries are less Ah but cost less also) 4. Con- If running 2 -6V and one goes bad. Up a creek. 5. Pro- Lithium last about twice as long as wet lead acid. 100% longer then sealed in the industrial field. I'd read there "lifetime" description in the warranty. (They may figure 10 years and price includes 1 replacement) 6. 2 of these batteries $1800 total 2 - 6 volts = $350-400 total. Wets In forklifts 2-3 years life. RV maybe 6-8. ( 24 years for same price to justify)

[@joeo7257]

Respectfully: The 225 amp/hr golf cart batteries have only 112.5 usable amp/hrs at a 20 hour discharge rate. most people discharge RV batteries in a third of that time. The puchcart effect (If that is spelled correctly) will reduce the usable amp/ hrs substantially. giving the advantage to lithium by a good margin. Fork lifts and golf carts are rarely discharged completely. People in RVs don't cycle their batteries near as much but we accidentally deplete them frequently by accident. leaving lights on etc. Lead acid batteries fully depleted reduces their life expectancy substantially. 3 years is about all in an RV, and the last year is frustrating trying to get them to take a charge. Lithium is well worth it.

[@andyr5389]

@@joeo7257 I understand your view. And yes discharged in a forklift is 36V on a 36V battery. There are safeguards to make sure lifts do not run under a certain voltage on newer lifts. And running lights can run lower voltage and people do not notice. Most people do not boondock all the time which means it is not depleted every time. The 12V in mine outside is 6 years old. And it last very little time now and needs replacement. So for the average RVer it would not be worth the investment of lithium. Most people that are off grid would be very conservative on water and battery. The main point of they were doing this would be living outside not inside.

[@DavidBowen]

They are NOT 105 AMP hours each. They are more around 95. They were going to change the rating but I guess they haven't done it yet.

[@markliberton6757]

Go and check out U-tuber “Love Your RV” about this battery. He did I think 5 videos about the quality and a full test to see if it was up to the claims of this battery. He even opens the battery up to see the quality of parts inside. Great videos.

[@DaveThomson]

A lot of you comparing these to more conventional batteries need to realize your not putting these up against a fair test until you start talking about full time living and going off grid with solar. In that context none of the other batteries would last nearly as long, be as maintenance free, weigh half as much and would still have life once they're number of cycles have been exceeded. For full timers who love to boondock these are excellent, Lion are the perfect choice.

[@SedatedByLife]

Their lifetime warranty is a limited lifetime warranty. 3500 charges or 80% SOC within that charge/discharge cycle limit. If you reach 3500 and your SOC is above 80%, the "lifetime" warranty isn't fully covered any more. It's also dependent on if they are still making that particular pack and/or cells inside. It'd sad but they are kind of deceiving. However we see it with most companies that use the qualifier "limited"

[@bigal6684]

The lithium battery for my motorcycle is so light it just about floats in air!

[@gladeejennings7352]

@ Big Truck Big RV I thought you were going to give a review of them? All you did was read the info they sent you and then installed them. You could have at least put them through so tests. Hell you got 2000 worth of free batteries to talk good about them but not really test them out.

[@BTBRVReviews]

This is the first video my friend. Lol

[@danieltrickey9285]

Usally businesses that give lifetime warranties plan on going out of business in 5 yrs.

[@tsmall07]

It's the lifetime of the battery, not your lifetime. They consider the lifetime of the battery to be 3500 charge cycles.

[@rhondachapman6976]

Wow!!

[@bryanst.martin7134]

FedEx resistant packaging is good.

[@bugatti314159]

So when they get stolen off my trailer I'll be out $2000 rather than $150 for standard batteries.

[@ALMX5DP]

bugatti314159 when’s the last time you had your batteries stolen?

[@johannb4393]

You're right, $1000 a pop. They better be great at that price.

[@bugatti314159]

@@ALMX5DP I haven't but several people have in the local area. Along with coolers, generators, propane tanks and anything else not chained to a tree when they left camp.

[@scotthowe2286]

Noooooooooooo way 2grand!!!!!!!!!

[@ALMX5DP]

Mark Cole nope bailed out around 2014 to the PNW. Miss the weather and geography but cost of living was getting out of control.

[@salbers]

You are on the right track to reliable power. But ion batteries cannot operate at low temperatures.

[@Shaun_millertech]

Clean up the wires ! That drives me crazy. Build a box and mount it.

[@rixrig6193]

Suggest you check out the Your Tube Channel 'DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse' . He does a LOT of comparisons and SAFETY features of various Lithium Batteries. Battleborn seem to have a one up on the features. Just food for thought.

[@BrokeGuyBBQ]

They wont recharge under 32 degrees

[@leoblumhagen644]

Anthony morel get a thermostatically controlled heating blanket to set them on, problem solved, they will discharge below freezing

[@MrGhendri]

Only a 300W inverter? I’m hoping you meant 3000.

[@seadog2396]

Yes, me, too. 3,000.

[@joedoakes8307]

A lifetime warranty , till , they catch on fire !

[@Milesco]

Yeah, that was a problem with lithium polymer batteries, but these are lithium iron phosphate batteries, which don't share that fire risk.

[@joeo7257]

Who told you that?

[@Milesco]

@@joeo7257 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery#Safety

[@haroldmaxwell4012]

Captain Quirk , thank you for the link

[@Milesco]

@@haroldmaxwell4012 : You're welcome!

[@taz1357]

Are you still happy with these batteries?

[@intointuition8051]

SOLD OUT! 11/27/19

[@peterpaulandmarydragon4101]

Where's the reviews?

[@veryinteresting591]

Li = Lithium Fe = Iron Po4 = Phosphate

[@TheGenericavatar]

Fully draining LiFePo4 batteries still shorten the lives of the batteries. LiFePo4 batteries when used properly (half depleted?) last some 5K-8K cycles.

[@roncterry]

They are rated for 3000+ cycles still maintaining %80 capacity anyway (i.e. 10+ years of use with ~1 charge cycle per day). Doing what you are suggesting will indeed lengthen their life. However, with a ~10 year projected lifespan, using them without having to worry about how much I’m drawing them down is totally worth it. 10 years from now, when I may need to replace them, LiFePo4 batteries will probably cost the same a current lead acid cells.

[@rockymonge4979]

You should have built all that in a separate box so you could have moved it out of the trailer if you wanted. Two plugs, one to the solar panels and one to the truck(alternator power).

[@Augiebracerofam]

If the clue was not in the title, I would go with ammo.

[@alanthomas6438]

heck , ill review them if they send some to me for free

[@chadburkle1461]

alan thomas yes how do I get that kinda deal?!!

[@donalddday7741]

For 900.00 a Redhead big breasted female model for a week and battery needs to last at least 30 years should be supplied

[@JSmith-wy3yh]

They claim 1300 WH but they do not even get 1000

[@cravinbob]

Vehicles are going to 35 volts at some point. And since Obama closed all the lead smelters in the US regular batteries have gone up in price. Lithium is fairly new battery type for common auto use so price will go down when everyone has one. Any idea how many tree huggers had a dead battery in their electric car and ripped out back seats since trunk won't open ( no juice) when in fact there is a single battery under the hood that runs the starter and alternator? Go green, right out of the wallet! and the planet is not saved since natural selection has been outlawed.

[@knarfster]

lithium iron phosphate, not lithium ion

[@dennisperschbacher3688]

$900 per battery? As stated with other comments the average RV enthusiast is not paying that much for a battery. I guess if I was given them for free I could give a good review also. Not impressed.

[@48kornbinder19]

These are not Lithium Ion Batteries. These are Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries. Lithium Ion batteries are the ones that burst into fire. Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are very stable. Just don't confuse the two different chemical designs.

[@Milesco]

They're *_both_* lithium ion batteries. But yes, the newer LiFePO4 chemistry is safer.

[@48kornbinder19]

@@Milesco No they're not both Lithium ION. LiFePO4 Individual LiFePO4 cells have a nominal voltage of about 3.2V or 3.3V. We use multiple cells in series (usually 4) to make up a lithium iron phosphate battery pack. Using four lithium iron phosphate cells in series, gives us roughly ~12.8-14.2 volts pack when full. This is the closest thing we’re going to find to a traditional lead-acid or AGM battery. Lithium iron phosphate cells have greater cell density than lead acid, at a fraction of the weight. Lithium iron phosphate cells have less cell density than lithium ion. This makes them less volatile, safer to use, an offers almost an one-to-one replacement for AGM packs. To reach the same density as lithium-ion cells, we need to stack lithium iron phosphate cells in parallel to increase their capacity. So lithium iron phosphate battery packs with the same capacity of a lithium ion cell, will be larger, as it requires more cells in parallel to achieve the same capacity. Lithium iron phosphate cells can be used in high- temperature environments, where lithium ion cells should never be used above +60 Celsius. The typical estimated life of a Lithium iron phosphate battery is 1500-2000 charge cycles for up to 10 years. Typically a lithium iron phosphate pack will hold its charge for 350 days. lithium iron phosphate cells have four times (4x) the capacity of lead acid batteries. Lithium-ion Individual Lithium-ion cells usually have a nominal voltage of 3.6V or 3.7 volts. We use multiple cells in series (usually 3) to make up a ~12 volt lithium ion battery pack. To use lithium-ion cells for a 12v power bank, we place them 3 in series to get a 12.6 volt pack. This is the closest we can get to the nominal voltage of a sealed lead acid battery, using lithium ion cells Lithium ion cells have a higher cell density than lithium iron phosphate we spoke about above. This means we use fewer of them for the desired capacity. Higher cell density comes at the expense of greater volatility. As with lithium iron phosphate, we can also stack Lithium-ion cells in parallel to increase the capacity of our packs. The typical estimated life of a Lithium Ion battery is two to three years or 300 to 500 charge cycles. Typically a Lithium-Ion pack will hold its charge for 300 days.

[@Milesco]

@@48kornbinder19 : Lithium iron phosphate batteries ARE lithium ion batteries! _"The lithium iron phosphate battery (LiFePO4 battery) or LFP battery (lithium ferrophosphate), is a type of rechargeable battery, specifically a _*_lithium-ion battery,_*_ using LiFePO4 as the cathode material..."_ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery

[@michaeldoherty2289]

These batteries are advertised at 1200 watt hours. They deliver 1000 watt hours in actual testing. You are not getting what they advertise. For this price point you should get what is touted by the company. This battery has a very high discharge rate which could be very useful for some high discharge applications. There are many better LiFePO4 batteries than this. Avoid.........................,

[@noworriesmate8287]

Who’s life?

[@danielteegarden8982]

sloppy job... and cross charge / discharge from / to opp. post. on batteries

[@GeekMeScott]

DONT BUY My 1300 lion energy Battery just blew up! But I was told by lion energy that there's no way that the Battery could go over 15volts. But yet the battery exploded and there own sales rep dealer I took my rv to seen it at 19volts. But lion energy said that is not possible. So basically there saying there own lion energy rep is lying. And they can't explain why the battery exploded if it can't go over 15volts. Seems a little fishy to me. Also it was a refurbished battery I bought directly from LION ENERGY at the RV show. But they still say it's not there battery

[@OmahaWayne]

Used to come to this channel to watch reviews. Now when I come here I just feel used. Wondering who you are going to contact next to get free expensive stuff for you "review and keep (or sell) " while you tell them "I have 200K people I will push your product on". Feel like we should be getting a cut for you using us to furnish your life with all the best stuff for free.

[@clydelovett1029]

My boat and engine did not cost that much.

[@Morphz_Unlimited]

Way too expensive to put in an RV where most people only use roughly 4 times a season. No thank you.

[@randybryant9936]

Are you afraid of the catching fire?

[@BTBRVReviews]

Not with the correct equipment in place protecting it. The Redarc is a Solar MPPT charger as well.

[@puntabachata]

Or explding

[@herb7877]

@@BTBRVReviews The chemistry of these LiPO is much safer and not prone to fire as the old ones that were NOT PiPO.

[@Milesco]

@ Randy: As Herb pointed out, the lithium iron (that's iron, not "ion") phosphate chemistry (LiFePO4) is much safer and less fire-prone than the previous types of lithium ion batteries.

[@joeo7257]

Lithium is almost totally safe. I never trust lead acid!

[@tomk4916]

Can’t trust this review. He just got $2,000 in batteries for free to do a review. I’m sure that influenced the review.

[@clivestamp1891]

Tom Kirsch Tom he hasn’t done the review yet other than the initial inbox and install

[@Tops1212]

$900 a piece, mmmmm NO...

[@theodorefreeman3173]

Hey stupid they can be hauled on Aircraft I have hauled 100s of them what do you think start these Aircraft it not a hand crank the only thing you can not haul is a bulk container of acid.

[@hkmp5kpdw]

More like an unboxing and less like a review...

[@BTBRVReviews]

Haven't had them long enough to give a fair review.

[@SpitOnYourPalm]

lol he did not get Battleborns... what a noob

[@BTBRVReviews]

I have been offered Battleborn multiple times. There are so many reviews of them I wanted to do something different.

[@davidmcconnell8690]

:-)) :-))

[@kennethjinkins8967]

After listening to you I gotta pay somebody to do all this ..... No thanx

[@austinpatterson672]

Trickle charging destroys batteries

[@jaymercha3859]

CONTINUOUS trickle charging destroys lithium batteries. Disconnect lithium batts. after charging.

[@Shuffler703]

Wasted money.

[@bowhunter1227]

I'm curious on how they work for you. LION Energy is a Chines company and from what I have read they save weight by having a brick style battery and making the shell very thin. in fact I've read they shouldn't be used in a high vibration application or in a moist environment because they're not sealed.