These Characters Absolutely BROKE Their Games

[@danielkang1361]

The lore of Cyber Akuma comes from the comics with Apocalypse. Just like how Apocalypse took Angel from the comics and converted him to Archangel, he converted Akuma to Cyber Akuma.

[@myriadmediamusings]

At first I assumed this would be a Majin Vegeta situation where he despite the increased power he isn’t fallen under Apocalypse’s thumb. The win quotes of Cy-Akuma say otherwise and somehow the idea of the perpetually unaligned Akuma falling under someone’s sway is terrifying.

[@Deadwolf27]

I always thought it was the techno organic virus like Cable

[@fernandonava6693]

​@@myriadmediamusingsSF6 Akuma would be so maaaad if he found out.

[@NEOIVAN100]

Exactly, he is supposed to be the Horseman of Death

[@dukemagus]

Archkuma

[@megamandrn001]

I love how armored Spider-man has showed up in like five or six, maybe more video games over the course of like 30 years but in the actual comics it showed up for like one page in one issue. The armor gets immediately broken.

[@leithaziz2716]

Armored Spider-Man is from the finale episode of the 90's Spider-Man Animated series. He's from a different dimension where Uncle Ben didn't die and Parker made his identity public.

[@multiverseguy1239]

​@@leithaziz2716Your both right 616 Peter did wear the suit for one second before it got broken while the alternate Peter from the 90s version adopted it full time.The 90s armoured Peter died and then came back maybe.

[@giosbizarreart9048]

@@leithaziz2716he’s talking about the comics bro

[@waddledoo2you13]

@@giosbizarreart9048and ignore the better version of it? Yeah ok 😂

[@giosbizarreart9048]

@waddledoo2you13 your comment is irrelevant and makes no sense I was simply correcting him lmao

[@AudreyII970]

Sakura doing a simultaneous backturn pose with Akuma like he's a proud uncle is the funniest shit, I love it lol.

[@DarkOverlord96]

Makes sense. After all, Ryu is Sakura's "daddy" 😏

[@discmanthecdlord]

​@@DarkOverlord96🤨

[@novameowww]

@@DarkOverlord96 2016 ass comment

[@corryjamieson3909]

Akuma adopting kids be like:

[@TheSoulCrisis]

@@DarkOverlord96😂😂

[@Teh_Akod]

“Whats the difference between Blackheart and Mephisto?” Mephisto can cancel Spider-Man marriage.

[@myriadmediamusings]

Gets even more ridiculously hilarious when they eventually did add a real reason Mephisto wanted to end the Spider-Marriage aside from for the evulz.

[@samuelcorbett8167]

Goddammit 😂

[@jaredhebert942]

Mephisto's the biggest hater outside of Marvel editorial

[@mostlyblissful6666]

Underrated ass comment, holy shit 😂

[@Dracobyte]

Oof!

[@AmuroNT1]

Random bit of trivia: The Shadow characters in the MvC series are a riff on the iconic Kamen Rider franchise. Shadow Charlie's backstory is basically identical to the original Kamen Rider, Takeshi Hongo: An evil organization kidnaps a man and turns him into a cyborg supersoldier, but he escapes before they can brainwash him into obedience and uses his newfound powers to fight against them. Meanwhile, "Shadow Jin" from Shadow Lady's MvC ending is a riff on Kamen Rider V3's Shiro Kazami, with Jin getting mortally wounded by the villains and the two existing Shadows being forced to turn him into a cyborg like themselves to save his life.

[@bcarty3385]

Now that I think of it, Shadow Lady's drill arm could be a ref to Riderman, and her electric move to KR Stronger.

[@myriadmediamusings]

I demand every fighting game have a mandatory Kamen Rider homage character. If there can be a mandatory Bruce Lee clone, there can be a Kamen Rider clone.

[@uberlephrad8218]

And Kamen Rider's Author made Takeshi Hongo's backstory eerily similar to one of his previous works' central premise, Cyborg 009. An evil organization kidnaps 9 humans and makes them cyborgs, and they decide to rebel and go to war against the evil organization to free the world.

[@thestripedmenace]

​@@uberlephrad8218 That's a trope in all of Ishinomori's superhero work

[@Kyderra]

The Pokemon Flashing episode is fascinating because research suggest the large majority of children checking in to the hospital where doing so due to mass hysteria and reverse placebo.

[@ReikuYin]

I heard that too. I still think that Porygon got the short end too. Remember all it did was get hit BY lightning from Pikachu but it was banned for being in the show ever again when it was not the instigator nor the cause other than being a target. Can cancel the mascot so scapegoat it's victim.

[@brayenmorrison3199]

Of course. A Desk video. I love this guy's combo vids.

[@invertbrid]

One of the OG combo artist KZbinr that got popular in SFIV era. He is a bassist too, check out his band project dolphin. Does lot of cool jazz fusion stuffs and fighting game OST covers.

[@redwolfe7049]

​@@invertbridthat's so cool

[@cococolonel]

​@@invertbridIt's funny bc his music is what got me into his channel.

[@thegibberishman3797]

Secret characters should be so broken they come out of the game screen and personally beat my ass.

[@bluesunrise2323]

I was gonna say those are all secret characters

[@SilkyLew]

Someone has a kink

[@idontmindbeingforgotten712]

That gotta be kinky right ?

[@SharonisCarin321]

Does US Agent have anything different than Cap? Or is it literally just Captain America painted black?

[@Magnet_Chaos]

​@@SharonisCarin321 How win quotes are different. That's literally it.

[@DavidXtheCosmicGamerOfficial]

The fact that Onslaught is able to summon fighters to fight against the player makes me think that they reused that in some way through Galactus when he summons heralds to fight in the arcade mode.

[@DarkOverlord96]

I find it funny how Desk and Max only remember Cyber Akuma coming back in SFV... but not in UMVC3 lol

[@matthewx360]

I thought that. He ran him all the time 😂.

[@SquidJoe]

Desk is a scientist. He has a masters degree in Combology and a Just-Frame Specialist.

[@SiniBANG]

Combology? The study of Combo?

[@MarcSummersH2O]

Max: "You wanna know Cyber Akuma lore? They were BROKE. The End".

[@dealt]

I dont care what version of X-Men Vs. SF we get in the collection. I'm just happy to be able play it again after 20 years

[@myriadmediamusings]

Easily the one I’m excited for the most in the collection.

[@BobbyBoushaay]

Its crazy cause 1998 was the last time XvSF got a port.

[@LionelRGuy]

It's what I've wanted more than anything.

[@bryantaylor9874]

I worked at an arcade in 97. Had this racing game that looked like Stunt Race FX from the SNES with the Mode 7 graphics and the 3d sprites. Well it also had flashing effects and children would have seizures all the time. So yea it's def a thing that happened a lot until the insurance companies got involved.

[@Linkmindz]

Max, literally nobody knows this but the design inspiration comes from another game. Cyber Akuma also known as Z-Gouki was a secret mech character from Cyberbots which was released on the sega saturn 4 months prior (March 28, 1997) to marvel super heroes vs street fighter.

[@dealt]

Literally? This isn't secret information

[@Linkmindz]

@dealt everyone including the internet thinks the street fighter version came first. The problem is that cyber akuma refers to a street fighter character where as the cyberbot version refers to something completely different. Max admittedly doesn't mention where they drew the inspiration from

[@hafirenggayuda]

Man, I used to thought it's the other way around

[@joryu3252]

Btw, I'm 25 and in Portugal I didn't get to play arcades or fighting games in my childhood. But thanks to this dood I've gotten into fighting games since 2015, which was a hard year for me. Started with USF4 and then UMVC3 on PS4. I'm just a casual but I love fighting games and I love how Capcom designs their characters and fighting games mechanics. Looking forward to get into TVC too. It's Mahvel baby !!!

[@michel0dy]

"mvc1 balanced" that got a legit laugh out of me

[@Benxall]

The kinda dude to look you in the eye and tell you SF2 is a fair and honest game

[@discmanthecdlord]

"are any of the mvc games balanced" is the one that got me the most 💀

[@otsu3011]

its very cute how many people in the chat ask max about if certain character is playable lol

[@in4mus85]

​@@otsu3011 yeah like who wants to play as nightcrawler 😂😂😂

[@JackTR21]

I've actually heard people put dark Sakura on a much higher tier than regular in MVC2 mainly because her teleport has 0 recovery and you can do some wild stuff with that

[@Strizz484]

Was coming into comment this, Dark Sak is a much better character than regular Sakura. 0 frame teleport, better Supers, better specials and higher damage, if you're picking Sakura you're stupid if you don't use Dark Sak

[@kenzaya543]

Onslaught remained dormant for some time. Gradually, Xavier's frustration with his dream of mutant-human peace and harmony began to increase, exacerbated by the daily growth of anti-mutant hysteria, the deaths of dozens of mutants from the lethal Legacy Virus, and his own failed attempt to rehabilitate the mutant sociopath called Sabretooth. Xavier reached his breaking point when anti-mutant humans killed a young mutant near the grounds of the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning, the secret base of the X-Men. It was at this point that Onslaught awakened within Xavier and began to manifest himself to others

[@biohazard724]

Based on the recent Sabertooth War, people really need to stop trying to rehabilitate him. It goes poorly every time.

[@dianceperez8540]

@@biohazard724exactly he was beyond help by that point….especially Sabretooth War arc gave so much insight to the Onslaught Arcs starting point

[@lucemonfalldownmode]

Cyber Akuma also appears in Marvel VS Capcom 3 and Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3, where he is a DLC costume for Akuma.

[@AnnCatsanndra]

"This should have less flashing." *ROYAL FLUSH*

[@TheRogueWolf]

I need to find a way to work "you cannot stop me with paramecium alone" into a conversation.

[@penismightier9278]

See if you can use it to get out of a speeding ticket.

[@LightsJusticeZ]

I'd love it if in MvC4, if they brought back Ryu being able to transform into "Ken" and "Akuma" forms for 1 bar like he could in MvC1.

[@RichRetr0]

A new MvC game with playable Nightcrawler would be a dream!

[@johnwilliams2385]

I think its funny how the flashes were like crack to my eyes as a kid, but now pushing forty it's like fucking sand paper over my cornea.

[@Obscusion2]

The moment I saw Tomichin at the very end I instantly though "OK, how long until some sprite modder turns Tomichin into Max & makes him a usable assist, thereby inserting Max into MvC1?".

[@edfreak9001]

tbh the concept of mods for these older games is really exciting, has there been any insight into doing it for the other collections yet or does it seem unlikely?

[@UhDewSea]

If they do Marvel 4, I'd like a combination of the groove system and some mechanics in prior MvC's/CvS. Like CvS2 you could choose whether to have 1, 2 or 3 characters to use: 1 character would give you more health (like CvS2), access to cancelling specials into specials and a parry or counter move to help against teams that use multiple characters. 2 characters would give your teams slightly less health than a single character and you'd have access to MvCI's/PR:BftG/2XKO active tag system. Then 3 characters would be like UMvC3's with ability to call in assists and do DHC/THC or wall bounce combos. That way there's a way to play for everyone, as not every player enjoys 2v2 or 3v3. Would love to see that compared to an overly complicated traditional groove system. Simplified from CVS but expanded

[@gilbertodepauladapaz]

Devilotte Mech is a pendant in Monster Hunter World

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

"This should have less flashing...IT DOES NOOOOOOOOOT!" Perfect timing.

[@agustinlamas2368]

Minute 26:53: There is missing information there. The palette swap of Morrigan with Lilith´s colour scheme became canon in a series of mangas Capcom released a few years ago. In that manga it is revealed that when Morrigan and Lillith fuse (DBZ style) into one being that is the appearence the fusion takes, as Morrigan is the dominant one. It even has an oficial model kit.

[@getwreked2263]

So glad they have the setting to turn off flashing, my eyes hurt watching this but love the video max

[@NoahFan114]

41:43 - they called Darkstalker's Revenge a Beat-em-up. XD

[@Mari_Izu]

Probably british, they cal fighting games "beat em ups" and beat em us they call "brawlers".

[@JamesQPurcell]

One thing I always thought was cool was how both Arthur and Thor were strikers in MvC1 but when they became playable in MvC3 they had the moves they'd used as Strikers.

[@shimshambam]

Cyber Akuma is also a costume in Marvel vs Capcom 3

[@kainhighwind2]

God, I'd love to see these games remade. Properly upscaled to 1080p, with all new sprites SO MORRIGAN CAN FINALLY GET ONE

[@Dracobyte]

Yeah!

[@soundshape6496]

Not to sound thirsty or anything, but gonna be cool to see Mai in SF6. I didn’t like her design much in KOFXV. I like the SF6 art style more. Been playing Vampire Savior a lot recently, I still play with Morrigan a lot. But been labbing w/ others.

[@keroro9663]

Even though Norimaro isn’t in the MvC collection fans will find a way to mod him in.

[@NinF37]

Gosh I love desk videos. They are always such a treat when they release! And the production value is high on them too!

[@gehrmanfirsthunter8646]

I'm still waiting on Rival Schools

[@RougeMephilesClone]

I don't know how, but as a young child, I was able to consistently find Roll on the character select in the (ABSURDLY loud) PS1 port. Her and Mega Man were always my favorite characters. I don't remember playing anyone else as strongly, but Venom and Gambit probably made strong impressions.

[@BATCHARRO]

Re: who is Onslaught As I understand it Onslaught ls like a part of Xavier's mind that's fucking pissed off and wants to go apeshit at all the bad things humans do, and somehow it takes the form of a giant evil Magneto. Obviously it's more complicated than that, and the story had a lot of changes behind the scenes but I think that's it. Xavier's mad inside, he becomes a giant psychic monster, kills some people, sends other people to The Rob Liefeld Dimension.

[@raptorpuns]

Red Venom my beloved

[@corey2232]

21:15 - I remember reading somewhere Orange Hulk was a reference to The Thing because they wanted him & the Human Torch in the game but didn't have time.

[@Masolow99]

The ending made me laugh how it usually zooms in on maxs cam in the top corner and this time nothing was there cause he was at the bottom 😂

[@XionSteel]

Jesus Crist, i didnt play many fighting games but i vaguely remember trying to fight Metal Zangeif as a friends house as a kid, I had a time with it to say the least lol.

[@darktetsuya]

so many characters I never really got the chance to mess around with, will definitely be trying them out in MVC collection first chance I get! had no idea shadow charlie and shadow lady both had raging demon-style screen kills!

[@CharlemagneSupernova]

Me: *watches new Max vid on my birthday* Max: *calls a game from my birth year ancient*

[@joryu3252]

Desk is godlike. In every iteration, he has infinites, infinite good videos.

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

The flashing was hurting my eyes fr

[@Arcademan09]

Regarding the "pokemon caused epilepsy", as it turned out it was massively overblown and one of the more famous cases was faked the whole time

[@gabrieliatarelli]

I feel for the brothers and sisters that own a Xbox and wont get the compilation. I don't want to boss anyone but if that is a person with some influence to make this change (or at least make this situation more visible) is Max.

[@pinkduskstone1543]

"Why are you standing against the wall?" "I'm watching gaming videos."

[@greencaleb1988]

Not having vergil in the thumbnail is crazy.

[@GLSnifit]

Seeing Max chuckle at Roll's TvC Level 3 makes me realize, we never did get a 'Rate the Super' for TvC did we?

[@braystar8578]

Fun fact: Saki is an alien. This is only ever referenced outside her Japanese only quiz game (Hence why barely anyone knew or brings it up) in TVC with Gold Lightan's victory quote against her. Shoutouts to TheSeventhForce.

[@RedWarMachine]

Adding context: Gold War Machine is a palette swap of regular War Machine. Who in turn, is a palette swap of Iron Man.

[@justinbrummett]

Sometimes I look up combo videos from time to time just to get some motivation to get better at fighting games

[@jeremysutton448]

How in the the heck has The Thing (FF) still not featured in an MvC yet.....Contest of Champions anyone? Marvel's premiere fighter.

[@myriadmediamusings]

They’ve always given an excuse of the F4 not being fighters because of the inability to implement all of them, but I think they can work around that if they keep at it. Like say if they make The Thing the primary fighter, but they make him similar to Captain Commando where Reed, Sue, and Johnny are used in specials and hypers.

[@bobbysworld281995]

Probably the same logic in not giving more tanks their fair share: Hulk, Juggernaut, Thanos, Tron, etc.

[@xanderac]

I love the mugen/fan community because they've basically made most if not all of those assist only characters into fully realized characters, as well as the rest of the main xmen and so many more

[@Ashura96]

Quickest way to see if MvC1 has flicker reduction on or off is to check the color of the super background during a duo team attack. Full flicker/flash is rotating rainbow color and flicker/flash off is just red.

[@guillermomartinez3125]

Onslaught is when professor X darkness is merge with magneto darkest aspects

[@Deadwolf27]

14:36 is that Morph and Forge?! I thought Morph is exclusively in the cartoon.

[@myriadmediamusings]

That look of Morph is, but the character himself has existed in the comics for ages. Only reason he’s called Morph instead of the comic name Changeling was because of copyright conflict with DC and the Teen Titans.

[@Deadwolf27]

@@myriadmediamusings Oh wow I had no idea. So is that Changeling?

[@mad-dash6448]

I always assumed that Cyber Akuma was a reference to his secret appearance in Cyberbots. Unless it’s the other way around.

[@blitz7563]

Fun triva about mecha zangief and cyber akuma: Cyber Akuma's wings are based on the wings of a robot called Mazinger Z. Its hand could also be be based on mazinger Z's reinforced rocket punch too As for mecha zangief, the wings in SF5 look like the ones from getter ligar from getter robo.

[@DIOBrando-ij2bp]

If you saw the recent X-Men ‘97 cartoon, the battle at the end of that cartoon is how Onslaught comes to be in the comic. The detail in the comic are a bit different since the cartoon is taking something from early ‘90s X-Men crossover Fatal Attractions and putting it in the 1997 X-Men crossover Operation: Zero Tolerance, but it’s the same thing.

[@WillPowah]

They should make a balanced version of each game in the collection. Let there be both options so people can play in the original or remixed version kind of like sf2 turbo hd remix.

[@Imozart0341I]

Cyber Akuma was to be one of Apocalypses four horsemen but over came mind control and set out to destroy everyone in his way

[@brandonwilliams6119]

I absolutely love Desk and his in-depth analysis videos, the one that looks at the MVC1 Special Partners and the series they come from, I can’t believe MVC1 invented Assist Trophies before Smash did in Brawl and holy coincidence they are 10 years apart. MVC1 released in 1998 Brawl released in 2008 If you could have Special Partner Playable who would you choose? For its Jubilee I’ve heard she’d be sort of like the Dan Hibiki on the Marvel side, is that true?

[@soundshape6496]

I’m always surprised by some of the questions Max gets in his chats about Marvel & Capcom fighters… some of the questions highlight that he does have some fans that are new to the games.

[@lazylaboratory475]

20:49 We should call orange hulk the Thing, just like how war machine is a alt color for iron man lol

[@tracepalmatier9696]

Was just thinking the other day about how insane it is that Nightcrawler has never been in a Marvel Vs game. Somehow we got weirdos like Marrow, Spiral, and Silver Samurai before one of the most popular X-Men characters ever, lol

[@starmansuper7514]

Hey Max! Love your videos, have for years! With the MvC collection coming out, a suggestion for a video might be a breakdown of the MvC2 characters and assists! With a huge roster and three assists per character, it's hard to tell which is best to use for each character for different team set-ups.

[@nathanhill3300]

I always presumed Orange Hulk was a roundabout way of referencing The Thing.

[@riemaennchen]

37:52 OHHH so thats where that one Hammer in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne comes from.

[@Augrills]

Dude, you know so much about these games. It’s really cool

[@gamerkingdom1442]

I WANT THAT MVC COLLECTION WALLPAPER BACKGROUND!!!!! It’s so amazing….

[@HALFandDOUBLE]

With the possibility of a new Mahvel game... possible, and how capcoms fighting game division is now (with how much love and care is put into SF6, it seems like a 180 from SF5)... what if the new MvC goes the Smash Ultimate route? Everyone is here, every stage, every piece of music, and all of the love for the legacy of MvC

[@zubairkhalid6962]

Cyber-Akuma also appeared in MVC3 prior to SF5

[@novowels2030]

Always assumed Orange Hulk was meant to be a stand in for the Thing.

[@MessengerOfEntertainment]

I really hope Rogue comes back as a playable character if they ever do an MVC4. Her, Spidey, and Doom are the three I want to come back.

[@Anonymous_Player132]

Warning: Flashing lights are present at multiple points in the video.

[@AnnCatsanndra]

"Wasn't a huge fan of Mega Man 8" Okay like. I get it. It's very cartoony and bright and pretty distinctly different from the X games as well as the NES games and whatever we call the MM7 look. But also the very cartoony and vibrant vibe is exactly why I freaking LOVE Mega Man 8.

[@crxptic]

ROLL MENTIONED 🔥🔥

[@in4mus85]

Gray hulk is canon, Blue hulk has to go Oh wow they even added Onslaught's theme music UMVC3 👌🏾

[@Zachary_Sweis]

Saying X-Men Vs. Street Fighter is the most balanced game in the series because of corner infinites is like saying 3rd Strike is the most balanced Street Fighter game because of Parry.

[@MrTubeStuck]

Its relaxing listening to the song and have Max tell stories over it.

[@toanuva6178]

39:01 Hope when working on MVC&B, we can get Thor's classic costume that he had in MVC3 but never carried over.

[@JBurky15]

So, what's the best (noob friendly) way to get into these vs games now? I know the collection is coming out soon, but I have never played an assist fighter, so I want to play around a bit before the collection drops.

[@ProxyDoug]

Capcom should do a beat 'em up crossover game at some point.

[@EternalRedGamer]

Desk probably spent a whole week dedicated to just edition that video

[@12MYCRYL17]

Roll theme in MVC1 slaps!!!

[@GenericProtagonist118]

I'm sorry... "Red" Venom? Naw, that's Nickelodeon Slime Venom.

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

This was fascinating and really gave me nostalgia for the 90’s when I played all these games in arcades as a kid with my dad. Ngl I always liked the flashing cuz it made supers feel more powerful like they are so explosive you can’t look at them. But I get why they’re frowned upon now

[@brunoramos9747]

I'm telling you this collection that's coming out is going to be one of the greatest of all time😊

[@xxnike0629xx]

Has it been confirmed how we're going to pick the secret characters in Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics? I'm specifically wondering about with Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter and Marvel vs Capcom...

[@Charredasperity]

It'd be so funny if after being the worst character in both MVC and MVC2 Roll comes back in MVC4 and is the best character

[@spoogtastic]

Man I love me some Mecha gief. Also learned something new about being able to choose your assists in mvc1. Can't wait for the collection.

[@KurokiSamurai]

Secret characters in fighting games are indeed scary. 😂

[@ireaperslegend7426]

I would play marvel super heroes for the announcer and music alone lol

[@bobsapdagger]

It is funny to me that, possibly the most competitive genre of games, has a series that is lauded for having the most unbalanced, goofy crap that the devs could think of.

[@mjschlosser]

Any idea when the game collection will actually drop?