These Games Could Kill Overwatch 2

Three hero shooters are coming out to compete for the Hero Shooter throne, Sony's Concord, Valve's Deadlock and Netease with Marvel Rivals. Each game, including Overwatch 2 set to occupy a different flavor of the hero shooter genre. Which game do you think will be the best hero shooter of them all?
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[@YourOverwatch]

Which game do you think will be the best hero shooter of them all?

[@ZKDaniel]

Definitely, Marvel Rivals, from what I've seen and heard the beta on PC, was awesome. I can't wait for console beta

[@MacGamingGuides]

Marvel rivals has the potential to be the most popular. But nothing will ever beat the polish that overwatch has. and nothing will ever beat overwatch map designs. I don’t see valve managing to make a great game either, but they know how to make popular games as proven by CS.

[@fettbub92]

Star Wars: Battle Front 2, the 00's version on the original X-Box. TF2 takes silver.

[@luislozano2896]

OW3 or whatever Papa Jeff has been working on...

[@Blovmag]

I doubt there is a "best" game out of them, they are quite different, and I see myself playing them all. Rivals is more of a casual ability-first shooter. Concord seems to be a more serious gun-first shooter Deadlock is barely a shooter, I would call it a 3rd person MOBA, but it has its place for sure.

[@hidden3880]

List of games that can kill Overwatch 2 -Overwatch 2

[@nex5691]

List of companies that can kill overwatch 2 -BLIZZARD -ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

ROFL exactly my first thought on the title

[@moyo007]

no jeff ow is dead

[@DJ-pb1vr]

@@moyo007 jeff killed ow know your ow lore

[@kaiburofficial5552]

yep, literally came here to say this

[@EBM324]

Looking at these other games, I'm reminded how much I appreciate having the other team highlighted in red.

[@therealzahyra]

Not for me. My gameplay vastly improved when I finally was able to make the enemy lime green and my team dark purple. Too many things lighting up on the screen, it was distracting. Now I can focus on the enemies because I can clearly see them and those that don't stand out, I know to be my teammates.

[@aabrrrr]

I had around 70 hours in the marvel rivals beta. Spotting the enemy team was never an issue.

[@therealzahyra]

@@aabrrrr for you.

[@ooooswain]

​@@aabrrrrThat's a lot! How do you like it compared to OW2?

[@olegdusov4273]

@@therealzahyra Marvel Rivals has the other team highlighted in red and GIANT red healthbars Imagine looking at the video u r watching :)

[@clairemadeinheaven]

Overwatch killed Overwatch, not these games. That said I'm 100% moving to Rivals when it releases, I miss 6v6

[@Ajaylix_history_shorts]

Honestly in marvel rivals was out 26th 5v5 or 7v7 or 8v8 etc. I don't think it'll make the game worse because there's no role queue

[@ligmanewtons2523]

This channel is so full of dishonesty lol. Saying something akin to "you'd never catch ME being excited to play a game like Rivals, but players will maybe try it out and then come back to Overwatch when they realize the grass isn't greener on the other side when it comes to the chaos and freedom of expression to have really imbalanced characters..." The only thing that was a real issue was Hela... In an Alpha, that he is comparing to OW1 release. I'm going to have a blast playing Magik, Storm, Luna, etc. in Rivals. Heck, even tanks because they are ACTUALLY FUN and the role isn't insufferable. They're even killable too. The dude even said take the destructable environment further and let the entire turrain get wrecked by players so there is no competitive element to the game whatsoever, as if by contrast OW was taking itself seriously or had decent hero balance. Sojourn is still untouched. Heroes like hanzo and mei are still gutted with no reworks after a pushed health buff to tons of heroes. What is super competitive about get out of jail free abilities like lamp, suzu, etc?

[@bebemax95]

Marvel Rivals is the only game here thats truly an Overwatch competitor. None of the other games listed are like Overwatch.

[@artmanrom]

Yes and no. Marvel's Rivals is the only one like OW but all the others can steal the OW player base.

[@aerostrafe1075]

For marvel rivals I got my old tank buddy who dropped OW back to play as Venom for my Spider-Man. That alone is enough for Marvel Rivals to exist for me.

[@mraltoid19]

Why 2k doesn't resurrect "BattleBorn", I don't know. I'm surprised you didn't mention "Paladins", as an existing competition.

[@thatcactus5451]

Battleborn didn't play like Overwatch, very surprised people ever considered them as competition. Yeah they have unique characters with ability based game play, but the game had a fundamentally different way of play in that it was more like a first person MOBA game (if I remember correctly). Paladins was just OW but way worse, but it was F2P, but then OW went F2P so they are more similar now in that respect.

[@pippo17173]

@@thatcactus5451 Paladins despite their current state, at the very least allows people to play how they want. That and I can at least pull the two tank comp that overwatch refuses to do.

[@Strategistmaster]

Overwatch probably did Battleborn the dirtiest

[@pippo17173]

​@@Strategistmaster in fairness, gear box screw themselves thinking they can take overwatch

[@Skycube100]

@@thatcactus5451 True, many people say that Overwatch is like an FPS moba game but really, Battleborne, Gigantic, and Paladins are more FPS moba than Overwatch is. yes OW can feel like an FPS moba sometimes, but it depends on the meta, really it's not like that in OW all the time. Yes Paladins in Overwatch is a lot similar now with F2P scheme and the DPS passive, but Paladins still feels more like FPS moba. Another reason why OW is more popular than Paladins, Gigantic, and Battleborn is that OW is leaning towards, at least most of the time, the FPS side and FPS games are just way more popular right now. Most would rather play an FPS shooter that a 3rd person shooter and most would rather play a shooter game focused mostly on shooter sensibilities and mechanics rather than moba's.

[@ktom6757]

5:50 cries as a TF2 fan

[@The_Claymores]

finally someone understands that Concord is essentially Destiny. I'm confused by how many youtubers are immediately jumping to Overwatch comparisons when the similarities don't go beyond surface level 'hero shooter'

[@nex5691]

Imo looks like destiny, borderlands, and gotg mixed together It ain’t anything like Overwatch Ur real problem nowadays is usually whenever a new hero shooter comes ppl will go straight and say it’s OVERWATCH KILLER I’m not defending ow but it is annoying like the fact marvel rivals is a third person shooter game and plays more like smite and paladins is good but annoying that many ppl say ITS OVERWATCH ITS OVERWATCH OVERWATCH KILLER!!!! Yea it won’t kill overwatch coz atm ow killed itself they shot themselves in the foot like a dozen of times

[@luminen4051]

Destiny doesn't have hero kits like Overwatch or Concord. Destiny only has 3 classes with lots of different things to pick between in each class. Overwatch and Concord has each hero locked into their own kit. That's what hero shooter means Overwatch is a team based hero shooter. That's all it is. You can compare it closely to every other hero shooter

[@spaceowl9246]

As someone who's been a WoW player for 18 years let me tell you this: there were so many games that claimed to be the "WoW Killer" but nothing came even close. If anything kills Overwatch, it's Overwatch itself.

[@jerrygyoungii]

Nostalgia and the continued hope Overwatch will return to its roots are the only things that are keeping it alive, in my opinion. I've certainly moved on, as I have accepted the Overwatch world as it appears to be.

[@OmniVenom]

I Think DeadLock is a competitor to Smite 2 more than OW

[@jerrodossa6072]

Or Predecessor for sure. Good comparison.

[@BatStrikesBack]

The devs already killed Overwatch 2

[@Adventist1997]

5v5 killed Overwatch 2

[@ZKDaniel]

Listen, I still love ow and will love it even during its fall point, but Marvel rivals! Is awesome!!!

[@ikan5149]

I can agree, I’ll def be playing marvel rivals a lot more than OW2

[@ZKDaniel]

@ikan5149 I always wanted a pvp marvel ow type of game and rivals is THAT GAME! plus, if they add carnage and other Marvel characters

[@Batcena]

⁠@@ZKDanielhonestly it might not even be just PVP, with the amount of stories Marvel has, it’s entirely possible that there could be some PVE events with skins from those eras! Avengers Vs X-Men, Krokoa, MCU, Marvel Zombies 1 and resurrection, there are serious a lot of Things marvel could do if netease actually works!

[@glasspretender]

@@Batcenawould LOVE this! Even if it’s just a seasonal PvE event

[@kambyyy]

Deadlock won't kill Overwatch. Deadlock is a MOBA with shooter elements, not a shooter with MOBA elements.

[@FlavourFool]

I predict that Marvel Rivals, by comparison will show everyone how well made and designed Overwatch actually is

[@NANI-hl7pc]

Exactly!

[@gmanz5]

Facts we might bitch and complain our Devs are elite

[@The_Claymores]

strongly agreed

[@cheeseblast]

I dont think that much copium is healthy.

[@Digger-Nick]

It's very fluid and clear. That's all overwatch has going for it, game is extremely stale.

[@LuLuTheGremlin]

Overwatch 2 has no one with VISION leading it. It died with Jeff kaplans departure.

[@Cenomercy]

9:30 I disagree about just being a visual. When I play the close beta we needed a heavy character to destroy some walls to open up flanking routes it was a necessary.

[@JUNGGLEART]

Nothing could compare with OW. I don’t take any defense.

[@comedial6829]

That’s because all you do is play Overwatch, so ofc you’re gonna have this view lmao

[@johnrodriguez-boggs9159]

Bro that attitude ruins the game

[@gaiblexx1919]

​@@comedial6829 might just be me but i only play overwatch because every other game ive played regardless of genre just gets so boring so fast. Though it mighr just be my ADHD 😅

[@comedial6829]

@@gaiblexx1919 there it is right there, you’re the problem, and it’s also an example of addiction, trust me if you actually took time out of your day to give other games a shot instead of giving them a one and done, you’d see that there are other FPS games out there just as or if not the same enjoyable as Overwatch lol

[@MacGamingGuides]

There is no game out there that can give you the experience and fun of Reinhart or do fist

[@MrBreakdownx]

Deadlock looks more like its leaninging into the battleborn crowd. Marvel rivals seems more like overwatch style of game. Concord seems more like ow2 style of play. Idk im down to try all of them tbh hero shooters/mobas are just fun.

[@Strategistmaster]

I hope it does, without competition in its specific genre, Overwatch will never grow.

[@emmanuelugalde475]

lawbreakers was fun i hope they bring it back

[@johnrodriguez-boggs9159]

Valves deadlock is just Paragon….why are people forgetting that just came out?

[@jerrodossa6072]

Paragon is gone, but Predecessor is the remake with 3 original hero’s added that’s currently in open beta. Highly recommended checking it out!

[@JoeyXB]

The concord footage looks like the characters are moving underwater. What is up with the slowness?

[@neil002]

Most people who watch this video won’t remember that everyone joining OW is bronze 5. The learning curve is suprisingly steep. Some of these news games will pick up players because everyone is new and they don’t have the baggage of OW1. I agree competition is good. So I don’t think it matters which ones win or lose.

[@toons4934]

Freedo you should make videos like this instead of trying to gaslight 6v6ers into thinking they like 5v5 more like we didn’t play both of them lol ??? Crazy ? Might sub again, feels way less shilly when you just cover overwatch or make vids like this.

[@alexanderpalchick8012]

I wasn’t excited for any of these but you had my attention at IceFrog 👀👀

[@josephreynolds2401]

Same. Peeping the search engine now.

[@willwunsche6940]

Have to strongly disagree about brig being ignored in the lower ranks back then. I remember being low rank at the time and everyone flocking to her to dominate

[@kidoblivious893]

I feel like all these games individually are going to make me want to play overwatch.

[@JTMclarenF1]

Good they might actually give us 6v6 back if it dies

[@FlyinTools]

As much as I would love a game that can compete with OW, I think it’ll be quite a difficult task to make a game that can match the fluid, high octane gameplay and satisfying moments that overwatch has. The game is great. It’s the players that piss me off.

[@Colorado-Coyote]

I'm so excited for rivals

[@bradenhetzel874]

6v6 will only be able to save overwatch but it might already be too late

[@Bysentenial]

I had a dream that Your Destiny came back but also a new channel Your Halo

[@wakiza97]

You forgot spacemarine 2 6v6

[@tauvolantian398]

Gigantic would been a competitor if they hadn't messed up the servers. While paying $20 and you get everything for free is good in my opinion free to play would benefit it. Plus the lack of updates or events is killing the drive for alot of people.

[@raffyk7541]

This is one of the most intelligent and awesome videos I’ve seen on this topic awesome job Freedo I think you have a really really great and objective insight on the games industry rn

[@Osrsw31]

Bot account or mental brain rot? Btw you spelled Freelos name wrong 😂

[@raffyk7541]

@@Osrsw31 I’m not a bot, and was just spelling it as I’ve seen it spelled on other places like Group Up Podcast. If you disagree/hate the guy so much why are you watching his videos and nitpicking random comments lol? No need to be a rude cunt just because you disagree with my opinion.

[@willwunsche6940]

I have to say even as a masters rank Overwatch player I think I preffered when it was more casual. I liked the 4 roles, junkrat self damage as a junk player, everyone being really defined and for fun. I love competitive too but prefer intresic fun above all else

[@johnmetzakis2910]

variety is the spice of life, having these options does mean some will leave OW2 for something new, and may even stay. furthermore it also provides more options of inspirations for all of them. seeing new ideas on abilities etc. its better for the overall health.

[@Doomthepixarkid]

Freedo knows how to farm those engagements

[@reynelsonalbarran113]

Marvel Rivals is pure HEAT 🔥

[@seananthonybenoit]

Deadlock looks more like a game called Natural Selection 2, Unreal Tournament 2004's onslaught mode, or the design of Command and Conquer: Renegade

[@mamodokod4613]

Im personally crazy hype for Marvel Rivals, Its been a while since ive been like super hyped for a game.

[@asddap]

About the deadlock leaks. The game is still in alpha, not beta if I'm not mistaken. Basically not ready for public test yet but somehow already got leaked.

[@bigmoneyfungus]

"horrible in balancing" 🤣🤣🤣

[@dennydude]

Brigitte has entered the chat.

[@zkilla2924]

“you wanna cosplay as your favorite character and ruin our matches”. thats the absolute best way ive heard it described and it describes so many people lmao. spot on

[@coltdaddy]

When I explain what OW is to people I say “Imagine if Super Smash Bros was First Person” If Nintendo actually jumped in and did this I feel like they would take over

[@josephreynolds2401]

Splatoon is so close dude. They just need to reach out and grab it with a other IP. I wouldn't mind if Splatoon were that IP but the kiddy aesthetic is gonna lose traction.

[@10Neon]

I can't eat my enemy and poop them out as an egg. Literally unplayable.

[@Serendipity_GamingX]

This might be the worse most not even close comparison ever made

[@John-pu5kz]

I would love to see OW as a platform fighting game.

[@salinaember9527]

if OW leaned heavy into environmental hazards then yes... there it is nintendo. make a hero based ring out shooter pronto

[@kysimple1313]

This is like saying "these artists could kill Elvis"

[@romanrm1]

Third-person view is a non-starter, and 2 of the 3 look like games from 1997 back when they didn't invent colors yet.

[@sakitoshi]

>there is destructible environment, but for me it's just a huge gimmick this would work wonders in overwatch because attackers can force the defense out of some power positions. imagine if 2cp had destructible high ground to benefit attackers (or defenders in horizon lunar colony).

[@christophervega8400]

I think putting Marvel Rivals in the same spot as OG Overwatch is taking away from its identity; rivals seems to be carving out its own piece of the pie and I say "have at it". Hero shooters be damned, I just want to play as a superhero (Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Hulk), these characters I've been admiring since I was a kid.

[@Anput777]

Hopefully competition makes all hero shooters better

[@TankMAIN877]

Trust me with how bad overwatches march maker is with blizzard now admitting they are carrying bad players up the ladder and the dps passive and hitbox buff this game is already dead me and 3 of my friends have quit just this week sick of getting team mates who are potato just because the match maker wants us to carry them.

[@pingufan1239]

I was born into battle and the battle was born 🤓

[@Jay-tm1sf]

Can’t even type in chat GGs whit out getting banned!

[@Truthseeekerr]

Marathon by bungie is the only one I'm worried about

[@MookuuPC]

Most interested in Deadlock since I used to love Monday Night Combat.

[@RedMooseJesus]

But are the all free to play AND on both consoles?

[@ThisIsRusko]

Marvel rivals definitely is.

[@sleepysushi3831]

You can't kill what's already dead

[@ninjaroku3247]

I'm looking forward to Concord and Marvel Rivals. In terms of which could be the best - probably Concord for game play since it seems a bit more put together than the rest. In terms of hype, Marvel Rivals takes the cake cuz its a different look of the characters and characters we haven't seen as much in video games (i.e., storm, magick, etc.) and seems interesting but we'll see how the balance goes. Rivals could be pretty good in the casual sense

[@earthquakenate]

Rivals does have a lot of visual clutter. I really hope they fix the choppy animations and large health bars. If Rivals ends up feeling as good as ow2 does on console controllers with good netcode I might drop Ow completely.

[@quantrellh.4939]

Man Lawbreakers had SOOOO much potential! Sad that it went away so quickly.

[@Thund3rr]

I mean i kind of hope they DO. Blizzard needs to understand their offerings in the past decade have been extremely par.

[@rivus3358]

My biggest question for you Freedo is if Blizzard pulled the plug on overwatch entirely, what game are you going to pivot to playing and cover instead?

[@DaoZenOpals]

Only game that could kill Overwatch was itself.

[@ncascini01]

I do not see OW1 as any less of a shooter than OW2, it was great when it came out and I think that everyone who loved it still remembers the game it was meant to be. That's why we all still play it If we haven't left yet. I don't know about the other games, but i played Marvel Rivals and I loved it. It did feel like OW1. I don't see that as being less of an fps experience either. The potential to break key environments is wonderful. It means that the game isn't hard gated by chokes and characters can't just camp high ground the whole game, like on Dorado. The cathedral like spaces where fights take place are wonderful because they have the potential to allow teams to spread out more if the right meta is encouraging to that positioning. That's what sucked about the trash balance of OW1 after they ruined it. It encouraged stacking of teams and aoe healing/sustain for days and the opposite of risky plays since they were more easily punished. super enclosed environments are part of that issue. Your views on those topics were not congruent with mine.

[@slevin003]

Open queue is the only thing that worries me about Rivals. Game looks fun but will quickly lose steam for me if i keep losing games bc teammates cant build a comprehensive comp.

[@deddrz2549]

Finally, someone talking about Deadlick that has at least a basic understanding of what the game is trying to do. Its not like valorant, its not like TF2, It's a MOBA hero shooter, with emphasis on the MOBA part.

[@ninjadanoite1560]

Music to my ears.

[@DylanDValentine]

I think first person gameplay is pretty high on the list of requirements for the fan base. Marvel Rivals reminds me of smite more than it does overwatch personally. Concord has certainly peaked my interest the most of the 3.

[@PAassassin]

Battleborn, in my opinion, was a great balance of MOBA and FPS. I had a blast playing and have not had the same feeling or experience of wanting to play it everyday with other games since. OW was fun and I did really enjoy it for a decent period of time. But OW2, idk I just cannot get the same feeling for some reason, but I definitely preferred the MOBA level up system in Battleborn over, 'here are you abilities'. If OW moved more in that direction, which they won't, then I may get back into it. I honestly am in love with OW characters and their design which keeps me interested enough to pay attention to updates, but the lack of story or creativity in what a player can do with the character just isn't there for me. I am interested to check out both Concord and Rivals, hopefully one of them will entice some sort of feeling I had with Battleborn. It is a shame that they put no marketing into it and it just died after one "season" due to people hate bashing it because of OW.

[@joshuanovak919]

Marvel Rivals is super fun. I played the alpha and had a great time. The only issue I had, which was the exact same issue from OW1, was open queue. If I pick Hella for example cause i’ve played tank and support all night and want to finally play dps, I usually had to switch, because my stupid teammates all picked dps after me. So we either all run dps and just lose horribly and no one gets to have fun, or someone has to bite the bullet and switch to tank/support. It becomes a game of chicken. The same bs happened in OW1 and in competitive it was a mess. Nothing like someone stealing dps, forcing you to play tank/support, yet they can’t hit a single shot lol.

[@DrrkDream]

You can't kill a game that's already dead

[@lucan465]

If only Jeff would enter the gaming industry again, with the other visionaries of og overwatch and take a giant dump on ow2… In saying that, wouldn’t it be interesting if someone tracked Jeff Kaplan down and organised an interview, and see his thoughts on what the game is today?..

[@zkilla2924]

hey man i hope you’re not done streaming. you’re the only streamer i can stand watching so i hope you make it a regular thing

[@Orchal86]

I don't any of those will make me quit Overwatch, but I certainly want to play Marvel Rivals on the side. I enjoyed it in the alpha but I think it is still to different to Overwatch to be just a better version of a game I love.

[@SteezyG]

I've never had too many people give me abuse on voice or bad chat but in the last few months the skill level of team comp has DRAMATICALLY dropped. I never thought it but I've been playing less and less. It was a good run boys.

[@DandySlayer13]

Watching this lets you know Freedo did not play Marvel Rivalz Closed ALPHA Test. One map actually has parts where once you destroy it it remains that way forever destroyed but for the Alpha since it only had 3 maps Tokyo 2099 is the only one that had this feature. Positioning is extremely important as well especially with the amount of verticality. Punisher or Hela on a high angle is brutal when no one contests them. Positioning yourself as Rocket to ensure you maximize your healing output is critical as well. There is more to the game then people think but its also fun which OW at the moment is lacking. Playing OW is boring and frustrating now after playing the CAT for Rivals. Sure the balance was crap but it was an ALPHA test and I expected there to be many quirks and hiccups but for an Alpha it was surprisingly smooth sailing for the most part which attributed to it being fun. I personally am very excited to play again during the CBT. Its been awhile since I've been this hyped for a multiplayer game, in fact its been since the OW closed beta in 2015 that I've been this excited for one!

[@Turtlpwr]

5v5 already killed it

[@bailableYT]

One thing to always keep in mind with any valve game, is that if the game is good, they have the biggest free piece of marketing for any AAA company, steam itself. They can literally blow this game up in ever single one of their users faces for free.

[@PeidosFTW]

13:30 I WISh that were true, brigs plagued my gold-diamond lobbies at the time, I stopped playing during the brigpocalypse because of that

[@hypernoxious]

Only Marvel Rivals is in the "same" space. Concord will capture Destiny PvP fans(literally bungie devs with Destiny feeling guns and abilities), and Deadlock feels more like a Moba than hero shooter, MAYBE if theres other gamemmodes in Deadlock that remove the 4 lanes, then maybe it could feel more like OW, but for now it's fun just the way it is.

[@henor6609]

concord looks like its competing with lawbreakers, battlebordn and Paragon to see who can get shut down the fastest

[@sternritternovad]

The only one thats worrisome is Marvel Rivals, its got Marvels massive catalogue and solid Overwatch gameplay, Concord probably won't last a year, and Deadlock will live or die by Values interest in it.............

[@forthe3136]

What’s their to be worried about? If rivals is a great game that’s just more options for you

[@sternritternovad]

​@@forthe3136 I said worried because the term "killed" personally I'm hype for Marvel Rivals because I'm a massive Marvel fan.

[@dpgwalter]

Lawbreakers never should have died man. It was just marketed poorly and pushed to market at what ended up being Overwatch's peak, just died by attrition. Splitgate was able to be successful because it had a less saturated market, LB should've done the same. There are efforts to unofficially revive it thankfully, so I hope it comes back in some regard.

[@karmasmessenger3815]

Overwatch is dead I mean look at Keller and tell me you can take that man’s word seriously…I couldn’t even look at the guy without laughing

[@izazombiekiller]

I will ALWAYS be salty with concord. They encapsulated me in there trailer and i was super hooked on the world and the characters they built. Only for it to be a team based multi-player shooter... i hate having devs make an amazing world with great ideas, knowing they they will never truely be realized.

[@hypernoxious]

Maybe they'll make a Concord 2 and add PvE LMAO

[@ramisalam2181]

I think my pinky toe can kill Overwatch 2

[@olegdusov4273]

Im gonna play Marvel Rivals, because I like melee combat in shooters, thats it

[@ES_DCSAVIOR101]

Gonna have to go with Concord. Looks the best out of all 3 imo.

[@victortestacarlini]

Honestly none of those will "kill" Overwatch (at least not directly), almost like saying a new battle royale will "kill" Overwatch just because it has abilities and is a shooting game. They're really different from OW2 in gameplay, "rules", mechanics, feel, artwork, size/scale, etc. Same way as Apex Legends and Valorant got the attention of some players, they're not "killers", games that resemble each other and have good traits for people who already enjoy OW2. Yes, a portion of the playerbase will like them and migrate, but not because they're "the same game, but better", but rather for the same reason TFT takes a portion of LOL's playerbase, just being an interesting game with similar qualities and a refreshing look at some concepts.

[@wanaan]

Who cares about balance when you can counterpick?

[@Xratos1991]

I’m not defending OW but I will say this, I play it a lot and have tried many other games with high hopes. But I always find my self getting bored with them. OW feels like the one that I keep coming back to and while Yes I get annoyed with some decisions the game has made I still find my self having fun with it. I’ll never be a high level player and that’s fine with me I’ve been around since OW1. But it’s a game I like to get on play for 2-3 hours and go play something else.

[@ricardofernandes9207]

The only one that can trully compete with OW2 is Rivals, by far, lets hope they can make a great game.

[@NoLifeArcade]

Don’t worry, Space Ranger will save us!

[@ExHavic]

Don't forget project loki

[@MintMab-gk1ux]

You forgot the furry overwatch clone and the cat overwatch clone too

[@erikarmstrong7474]

I don''t know Ice Frog is pretty brilliant. I have some hopes he makes another golden goose. It may not kill Overwatch 2 but hopefully has some legs.

[@saurlex1368]

Marvel Rivals looks decent and it's a very well-known existing IP which is advantageous. I think Concord is DoA and the Valve one is always guna be 50/50.

[@zyonhenderson67]

Honestly I'm just glad we have more hero shooters. I've never been able to play games that dont enforce teamplay. Marvel Rivals looks the best tho

[@silvo9460]

i mean if you include deadlock might as well include smite 2