These Headers Don’t Fit! Modifying Lakes Headers to fit a 33 Ford Pickup

In this video we modify a set of Patriot Flathead Lakes Headers to fit a 1933 Ford Pickup
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[@airecraft1]

I learn something new every time I watch your channel. Thanks again

[@TonyHills-m9t]

That's a great lil gadget you made to keep the tubes straight..love it Lee !!!

[@homespuntools2115]

Very nice '33 pick up . The floor and top bow videos turned out great . Nice to see you being brave enough to cut the tubes and make the needed changes as straight forward as it was . You are very talented and well worth the times it takes to see you do what you do . Decades ago I made some headers for a 454 , 1973 Vega for a friend . They were used and who knows what they had been on , wasn't a worry to splice and dice till it worked . Your wise words that you always say ... "sooner or later someone will have to take it apart again !" Have a great week !

[@janinedelcamp1941]

You're a great problem solver! What a professional looking job on those headers!

[@LGKustoms]

Thanks

[@NWSanta]

Wow, that's amazing. After you polished them, it was like you were never there. Super talented!!! Nice work!

[@LGKustoms]

Thanks. They’re back from the ceramic coaters now, and they look like they were never touched

[@justgrazza4638]

Make the clamps in 2 pieces, simple hinge in the middle and they will last you forever. Nice job on the headers.

[@rudedogg6331]

Came here to suggest that, another option would be to make them out of spring steel, I'm thinking old band clamps would work

[@kazzxtrismus]

take 2 pieces of angle iron and weld them to the jaws of some cheap vice grips so when the jaws close you have what looks like square tubing...or just use pipe pieces . i did this with some broken vice grips to replace the finger tip swivel thingys

[@randykirchhevel7311]

I love old school hot rods.

[@jameslangford4748]

I LOVE making tools ! Thank you for the header clamp idea Lee. Have to see if I can make one for a curve just to see if I can. Lots of curves in my equal length headers.

[@timferriss905]

Hey Lee enjoying this over bacon and eggs, toast and coffee. Lots of coffee.

[@timferriss905]

I think that’s another part to add to your parts for sale. Header clamps. I’ve got my eye on a 32 and 34 pick up trucks. Maybe it will work out. I’ll send you an e mail towards the end of the week 7th-10-23. Cheers.

[@LGKustoms]

Cool!

[@paulblack2402]

Nice job Lee, very neat.Well done.

[@LGKustoms]

Thanks

[@rearwiperdelete]

I like when you use the plasma table in your videos. It sounds like Daffy duck submerging his head in the tub and blowing bubbles.

[@LGKustoms]

Is this like that joke, where bubbles is actually the name of a person?

[@rearwiperdelete]

@@LGKustoms Not at all! Next time you fire up the table just take a listen. This information is going to change your life forever.

[@Mopar46]

Top job, Lee. It's a pain in the arse when nothing lines up, straight out of the box. Obviously that Company should be more specific in the what-fits-what model, department. Not always a given, I'm afraid.

[@LGKustoms]

It’s incredible what the aftermarket gets away with

[@mickeythompson1562]

Nice job on the headers. Love that truck!

[@tedcorey3054]

Nice work , like you were never there .

[@terrykeithley6183]

Looks dam good Len, regards to Shannon an Lux.😊

[@matthewschneider2089]

Dude!!! Nice pipe clamp (copy) fixture!!!✌️

[@aeciodassis9965]

Very nice, Good Job I have the same problem with my Ford 42 pick up truck in Brazil, thanks to share.

[@shotsrodder]

Nice job Lee 😎

[@michaelrosebud]

Lee, you do excellent work, and I love the how, if I ever get another rod, I will bring it to you when I need stuff done, I live in Olympia Wa...:-) The best to you & your new family....:-)

[@LGKustoms]

Deal!

[@jimmiebrown5014]

You are a genius those headers look so nice

[@LGKustoms]

Thanks

[@garycamara9955]

You could take advantage of needing to redo the coating to remove the exhaust take off. That way you could have the exhaust exit the sides.

[@elmerhenry1023]

Like those clamps great job

[@T0mmyTune]

I'd be tempted to just build me a thick flange. You got the pattern right there. And bonus, no cutting of the headers.

[@LGKustoms]

The flange would be 2” thick and milled on an angle. The exhaust ports are not 90° to the frame, so if I make the flanges thicker, the header will sit lower and the primary’s will hit the top of the frame rail.

[@T0mmyTune]

Got cha. Good call. Your video was very watchable. Unlike so many others. Not creating a cult of personality, just doing what you do. Great Work! @@LGKustoms

[@floridian7143]

Always a great job, thanks for sharing, always interesting!

[@chuckbarney3945]

Very cool, i appreciate your old school "do with what we got" solutions but at a much higher quality than I remember executing in my younger days.😅😂😂 loving the sedan build BTW. Cant wait to see it running!

[@TwoFeathersFarm]

The metal finishing looks great! Can’t wait to see them after they get touched up!

[@LGKustoms]

Just got them back last week. They look amazing

[@rustedjunkgarage3316]

Great video, the headers turned out perfect. Awesome craftsmanship. 🫵🏼💯🆒

[@LGKustoms]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@byronbassett7439]

Hi Lee your question about the 3/8 and 7/16 bolts, could be that the cross over pipe was usually at the front, so maybe it's to give more support at the front of the engine, for the extra weight? Thanks Byron

[@LGKustoms]

Good theory, but I think the crossover pipe didn’t come until later though, and the early engines without the crossover still have the 7/16 bolts up front.

[@jimandlinsnow7002]

Jim’s right. Can’t even tell you did anything. Looks great.😊

[@LGKustoms]

They’re back from the ceramic coaters now, and look perfect

[@WaxMeister]

Wow! Love the idea of those 'position' clamps - I can see where that idea can work in a number of places! Excellent work and informative video!

[@LGKustoms]

Thanks

[@georgeezzell4474]

Great job.

[@mauimikeb]

Why not just weld one or two more port plates to the existing plate & use longer bolts. Kinda like a spacer to bring the pipe out to clear the cab. That would avoid cutting up those nice pipes.

[@LGKustoms]

Because of the angle in which they bolt on, by adding an extension it pushes the header lower causing the primary tubes to hit the frame rail. If the exhaust port on the block was 90° to the frame, your idea would have worked.

[@johnnysechrist6313]

Good job.

[@62_C10]

Good save

[@trumbley22]

Those look great!

[@PiwiWiwiCampers]

Nice work! That clamp system is great , I have seen them used here and is a great idea. Thats a very sweet looking little truck!

[@geoffrycolyer13]

Made a set of the clamps also they are handy. I also used Princess Auto exhaust pipe expander slid in and tightened where I could to hold cantered. Another great video with lots of education.

[@LGKustoms]

That's a great idea!

[@camcutcnc]

Nice Job !!

[@troysaner7714]

Those look very good. I can’t believe the cost of those things. That’s just unreal! Keep up the good work!

[@LGKustoms]

Most of the expense is shipping, customs fees/import taxes and exchange rate.

[@seanmcconomy711]

Haha, I know exactly where you saw the clamps on Instagram! If you make some, I will buy some.

[@bruceedgecomb8722]

great job

[@labrd41]

Ceramic coating on my headers is 9 years old and still looks good at almost 30'000 miles. The Chevrolet crate motor I bought has "Made in Mexico" cast into the block. Like those clamps you made. Bought a pair from Summit awhile back, like yours better. Good video!

[@adamjohnson7727]

excellent

[@garycamara9955]

I just built my own, they fit.

[@evertonronaldoguedes1588]

Hello, from Brasil. Hugs.

[@dash-ca]

A tubing cutter provides a perfectly square edge, great for shortening diffs too

[@LGKustoms]

Great tip!

[@garycamara9955]

Ceramic coating, they use magnetic deposition then bake it in an oven.

[@petersmith1076]

Gr8 work Lee that's a good trick with the little clamp. I made mine out stainless steel. I think it's 20g different sizes I've found they bend over the pipe and rebend really well, for end tabs 16g.

[@LGKustoms]

Cool, thanks

[@mickewingemyr9813]

Werry good🎉🎉😊

[@michaelrosebud]

O...BTW Lee, what if you took those new clamps you made for the headers, and split them so you could bolt & unbolt one side (via two wingy thingys to bolt to) then clamp the other side, that way when you put them on and take them off headers, just loosen two bolts on one side, and release the gripper on the other side....?

[@LGKustoms]

Good idea

[@kevinharms5558]

Great job. I'll bet they would have fit a 32 pickup

[@LGKustoms]

32-34 Ford pick ups all have the same sized cowl, just the firewall and belt line body lines that are different

[@AndyGeesGarage]

So I wonder is the difference between car and truck that the truck cowl is shorter and gets wider sooner? Good solution since if you sent them back you’d still be out shipping and customs fees. Speedway needs a shipping deal like Summit does for us Canadians. That’s a sweet little truck you guys are putting together.

[@LGKustoms]

I mostly buy through Summit because of that. But there are some things they just don’t have

[@waynespyker5731]

Does the channel add to the problem? I wouldn't think if so it would slight enough to not matter.

[@garycamara9955]

Are you gonn use flexible pipe to connect the exhaust?

[@PeterHatch-mx7zc]

👍😊

[@martinsteele3259]

Love that "Patriot" Made in Mexico.

[@LGKustoms]

Yea I thought it was funny haha

[@michaelhallas6450]

The headers came out nice , Question what type of brake master cylinders & pedals are you running on that 33 truck . Thanks

[@LGKustoms]

It’s a wilwood kit. One master cylinder for the front, one for the rear, and one for the clutch. The brake pedal has a balance bar you can adjust to dial in the front/rear proportioning.

[@michaelhallas6450]

@@LGKustoms Thank you I have a 32 truck , undecided whether to go with the floor mount or firewall mount .

[@normangarland6558]

looks great! Do tell what Jim's shirt says in Japanese on the back. Curious minds don't read Japanese.. :)

[@LGKustoms]

You think I can read Japanese?! 😆

[@rodschweiger4195]

Lee, great job. How much chop on the blue 34 pick up?

[@LGKustoms]

4” chop 4” channel

[@nikolasb2933]

2 inches seems like a lot to be out by. Is it something to do with model A cowls being narrower than 32-34 cowls?

[@LGKustoms]

I never tried it on a Model A cowl. These are specific for 32-34 Fords, and this truck is a 33 ford.

[@rlmonroe3623]

Hay Lee having quite time to e mail you

[@cliffroberts181]

Well dun lee you could make a living at that lol

[@LGKustoms]

Ha!

[@michaelrosebud]

Great project Lee, it's kinda to bad that so called American companies are outsourcing to other countries, and telling the public they are an American company, and everything is made in house. I went into Pier Imports a number of years ago in Florida, and asked the floor person, if I took everything out of the store that said made in China, what would be left, she said nothing....case in point grrrr!!!!

[@martinsteele3259]

To be fair, it is called "Pier 1 Imports"

[@LGKustoms]

I was just about to say this haha

[@davidmuma3235]

Couldn’t you make a spacer for the flange and then you wouldn’t have to cut the headers at all?

[@LGKustoms]

Adding a spacer pushes the header in to the top of the frame rail. The ports on the block are on 45° angle compared to the header

[@nzsaltflatsracer8054]

One look at these headers tells me you shouldn't buy them as the pipe angle at the port is wrong. This creates back pressure at the end ports that not only kills what little HP the Flattie has but also creates more heat sink that the struggling cooling system has to deal with. Take a look at your end ports as they come around the cylinder & you'll see what I'm talking about, the pipe needs to continue the port angle. It's 50+ years since I raced flatties!

[@waynespyker5731]

Could you have made your clamp in 2 pieces of 180° segments?

[@LGKustoms]

Probably could have.

[@waynespyker5731]

​​@@LGKustoms The welding ports could have retained at 3 per pair or 2 in each half at 45° from the centerline. Was wondering how you would align the 2 portions........ Could only come up with internal sleeves but that would add restrictions.

[@jsh3234]

Just so you know, the square you used is called a combination square or tri square, not a T- square. 😂

[@darrinwatts9229]

Should of made a 1 inch spacer for the block..should of Made 2 inch header flange and long studs

[@LGKustoms]

Adding a spacer would push the header in to the top of the frame rail. That was my first idea.

[@ronjohnstonaustralia2417]

Coulda,shouda,woulda, lol.

[@tpledger100]

extend and change the angle of the outlet.. make welding clamp out of thinner metal so you can remove easier

[@ronjohnstonaustralia2417]

Wouldnt work buddy.

[@michaelgillespie1206]

I hated to hear the price of those, you would have been better to build them from scratch.

[@LGKustoms]

In the end yes. Had these fit properly like the description said, then no, I couldn’t build them for cheaper.