These New PolarPro Filter Kits Are Fantastic! (Basecamp & Summit Review)

Unboxing and setup guide for PolarPro's new Basecamp matte box and Summit landscape filter kits. Featuring some image quality tests & ND accuracy checks.
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[@geraldundone]

So, it looks like they have fixed ND filters ready to go already.🤓🙌 Here’s a link: bit.ly/36Xoh1f You can get from 1 to 8 stops of fixed ND. Nice! Now we just need those circular diffusers! 👍

[@PhillipSkraba]

These looks stunning!! I'm sure the glass quality is well above my Cokin system. Great film.

[@TheTechnoPilot]

This looks pretty great! Agreed, now I just need to see if they can come up with both some Black Pro Mist and Glimmer Glass defusion and a way we can run it with ND honestly...

[@simba673]

No filter: imgur.com/D7qbRc6 Polar Pro filter: imgur.com/s3gnYzg SLR Magic filter: imgur.com/nqbqBfb Was really unimpressed with the PolarPro Peter McKinnon VNDs. They had an uneven colour cast across the frame, with the right side of the frame skewing heavy towards cyan. You can't just do a custom white balance to corect, as it only affects half the frame and you'd then throw out the other side of the image.

[@jaydivina533]

How did Polar Pro manage to take something I hate using and make it more than tolerable? I swear they have a ninja note taker at everyone's projects and it reports to some robot at HQ. Sponsored and legit vid. Undone right. Thanks Gerald.

[@adazon]

Hi, Gerald. Do you have any experience with the Aputure DEC Vari-ND or the DEC LensRegain? I'd LOVE to hear your opinion on them. If you're unfamiliar: Aputure DEC Vari-ND is an EF to MFT adapter (not boosted) + wireless follow focus + 9 stop variable ND, Aputure DEC LensRegain is an EF to MFT speedbooster + wireless follow focus.

[@ShaneCarrigan]

Gerald as a filmmaker with aspergers and a touch of OCD, the thoroughness of your videos is the most satisfying thing. Really preciate' ya! MKBHD became the top and most trusted tech channel on YT, and I think you will become the top filmmaker gear review channel in no time. The most trusted, comprehensive, nothing left to be desired, the kind of reviews that make you go "i dont need to listen to anyone else". I am always astonished at the amount of work and care you put in to things!

[@geraldundone]

That's very kind of you, Shane! Thanks so much.

You are good damn right! :) Every time I need to buy some new piece of film making kit (ND, tripod, lens, lights...) I go to Geralds channel and buy what he tells me to buy. And I was never been disappointed. I am very indecisive and he is bringing me peace of mind that I just made a good choice :) Except for Gerald and Marques, I need somebody for sports gear and maybe live choices and I will be happy :D

[@alimofficialYT]

You are like the dude back in the 90s working in a camera store and called Gerald the end-boss nerd that mostly knows everything about camera and stuff. Never subscribed to anyone but you are the first trustworthy person in that area. Keep going.

[@mickekling]

I love the last ”overcranking shutter" part :-)

[@robertnurse8362]

I just got the Summit in the mail and will give it a try shortly. Upon initial inspection, the build quality seems spot on and I like being able to apply CP with other filters easily. My only complaint is, LOL, the carry case. I wish it had a tad more room to store everything Summit related in one place and a way to attach it to a camera bag.

[@effectsmaster1]

5:51 Next intro: "I'm Gerald Undone and I like....good boxes....."

[@BeatsWithKev]

Your sponsorship breakdown was great, and I'm so happy for your channel's continued growth.

[@ShaneCarrigan]

polar pro has the BEST packaging of any product ive ever opened.. that includes Apple products.. loved my PMVND box its on display on my shelf its so good.

[@ajinkyathorat7502]

Samsung and one plus has the one of the best packaging when it comes to phone, their charging cables are even packed really well.

[@KenFlanagan]

I am a huge fan of your channel and have always seen you as a pragmatist who values the democratisation of good design and affordability. Its surprising that you endorse a brand that seems so overtly aspirational (the packaging alone) and hardly a snip. The principle of proprietary design seems to embody everything that good design isn't. Likewise any brand that feels the need for "signature" versions of plainly functional pieces has to be a concern. Most matte boxes seem ridiculously expensive, and this really seems no exception given its proprietary bent, though I appreciate your take on that. Swing away design as an innovation at least allows quick lens change and it would be great to see similar. Principally universality and standardisation allows costs to come down and if we all want better egalitarian design, then designs/brands like this, though addressing some practical concerns, seem instinctively a step in the wrong direction. Regardless your time, consideration and valued judgment is always sincerely appreciated.

[@pebmets]

Thank you for the video. I like fixed ND filters and until I saw your comment below, I was going to hold off. Now I have something to really think about. I like my Lee system, but this is something I am considering for landscapes. I am just pricing it out in my head and thinking long term is it worth purchasing it. If only I was able to use my current filters in this system then the decision would be easier. If I choose to go with it, I may have to run it by my budget director,....I mean my wife. Thanks again. Another quality video which I felt was informative and as usual, I enjoyed it.

[@isaacbedford3644]

How hard would it be to use a 1/4 black pro mist filter in conjunction or substitution with the polarizer?

[@loudandclearmedia]

You know, I was just thinking that I need more little pouches...said no photographer ever. ;)

[@creativesymon]

Their PM ND filter still hasn't arrived in the UK. Nearly 6 months. BTW: A matte box doesn't have to be expensive to work perfectly. These are opportunistic.

[@anti-gravfilms8621]

Super happy I found this review of something I thought I wasn't going to buy for a while. Now top of my list. Awesome reviews my man!

[@sahitanand]

Subbed purely because of your ethics!

[@peterclark6209]

Can you stack two NDs instead of an ND and graduated?

[@B-Moye]

Very thorough! Great review and unboxing.

[@2181425]

You should compare it to the Arri & bright tangerine line. If one wants to start small but then grow to much bigger shoots it’s almost worth it to get the proper stuff from the start. Finally starting to get my head around what would make for a good matte box and moving away from VND’s. These are probably good for certain people but it’s good to know why and be informed all the way up to the pro stuff like with the FX3, FX6, FX9 series of reviews you did which I liked. Love

[@florianbusch94]

You're talking about "Sometimes I'm using a very long lens for jobs" - What kind of other jobs are you actually doing besides filming in your studio? Because your channel already looks like a fulltime job to me haha.Do you have some client projects online to check out? :)

[@regoryan82]

You could probably say this as an intro " I am light and I am going to devour your sensor" great video as always!!

[@MinisterOfGuam]

Out in the landscape photo field would you miss having Medium Grads seeing how the Summit series only has soft ND4/ND8? Or combining the two softs with the fixed NDs generally solves that equation?

[@geoffreymee7671]

Although...there is one thing they could do to enhance the matt box's abilities and that is to extend the box itselt (like a piano accordian). When on a longer lens or when light is hitting the glass of even a wide lens, being able to consertina out (slide out) the matt box is a big plus to elliminate the light hitting the lens. That way you dont need a french flag and cutter to cut the light off.

[@daletidy.]

Lol how many cameras did you have setup for this? Awesome review. Decided to buy it within the 7 day launch to get the discount. Super pumped for it to arrive. Been thinking about Matte Boxes for a long time and this looks like the first one that makes sense. Was nice meeting you at Pro Fusion too! Keep on crushing it

[@TheOneThreeFour]

What if you put a mattebox on a minorly scuffed up GVM RGB-150s? Also I found out that since the light itself takes power through XLR, I can use my XLR cables as extensions. This light is AWESOME a massive but totally very secret thank you for you 👐

[@SereneBobcat]

Great video. I am guessing that this ND kit doesn't offer any IR filtration?

[@rossfairgrieve9074]

PolarPro say this on their website regarding the fixed NDs: "Hyper Neutral Through 1100nm Eliminates IR Contamination". From what I've seen, variable NDs seem to be pretty good at reducing IR as the two-polariser method attenuates all wavelengths more or less the same. It's generally much more of a problem with fixed ND.

[@Phil6875]

Hi Gerald, Great review.... The mate box system have a lot of control premising circular CPL +ND , but I just wondered if there is an interest to have a second Polarpro PeterMcKInnon VND Mist, without mate box.. I read that the mist edition reduce a little bit the wrinkle for skin... for people filming fashion or beauty you think it's an interesting approach or only keep the VND with mate box... All the best

[@ChevitosJourney]

Sucks! I just literally opened my kit and used it in Sta. Monica Pier and lost my CPL and its case didn't even get to use it, I can't even buy a replacement cause it's sold out. - I wonder if there's another CPL I can use as an alternative for this?

[@rossfairgrieve9074]

I assume that there's no polarising effect (reducing reflections on water etc.) when using the CPL and VND setup? I'd love for that to be controllable at the same time as the VND strength but I'm pretty sure that physics would have a thing or two to say about that idea.

[@mrhobs]

Would it be a bad idea, or just fine to use this matte box on a Pictor zoom lens that has a thin clear B+W protective filter on it? You would have to screw a step up ring onto the filter, then the thread plate onto the step up ring... too jank? Its a pretty light matte box, so maybe, right? Or too much risk of cross-threading? (I would be gentle and not screw it tight, of course.) I'd prefer a 95mm clamp ring, but the B+W filter would be in the way, right? I don't know... (DZOFilm Pictor zooms have 95mm front diameter and 86mm filter threads.) I could also use the Light Fly if I had to...

[@inzsights]

Hi Gerald, hope you had time to read this. I'm curious: Which one is that tripod you use in this set up? Thanks for making such great vids!

[@mikewinburn]

I noticed you said you've tested bright tangerine and tilta. Any chance you can suggest what you didn't like about the others? I. On the hunt for a new matte box w BT on the top of the list. Need a swing away.

[@lucacarena9908]

Question, can I use the Basecamp matte box also for stills photography?

[@johnpeterka8355]

Thank you for your video. How does Basecamp kit compare to NiSi or H&Y? With all the pieces to be connected, is there any light leaks? Can a grad be inserted on the Basecamp? Which of the two do you recommend?

[@unwesen6485]

so is it possible to just use this mattebox without the cp / nd? or you have to screw the cp to mount the mattebox?

[@ZJProductionHK]

So if i get the circular vnd peter mc version, can i attach that to this matte box? No?

[@mathiasgarcia5439]

hello, I already have the base camp kit. If I understand correctly I can buy a mist filter and put it in place of my filter without buying the third part. Is that ok?

[@pedrocarzolio]

Gerald, I wanna know the beahaivor of the reflactions and glares when using the polarized filter to change the exposure... is the polarization of the shot affected when you rotate the pl filter? Or does it only influence in the exposure affectiing the overall density?

[@mattprince6550]

How do you know if you are pushing past the 2-5 variable nd as the adjustment wheel just spins round?

[@LuisBendezuV]

What about sigma 85 art, how to fit in this matebox because this lens has 86 of diameter... also its possible use other filters like pro mist?

[@ChrisMizo]

It's worth getting some quality filters and it's a good investment for return, at least that's what I tell myself 😂 excellent look at the lens Gerald!

[@MrSupereric1998]

Do you have any idea if i can attach the Box to my Lens if there is a ProMist filter attached? Since i already own a set of those it would be sweet to continue using those.

[@aldopettengill4461]

Gerald, what is the gear you have installed in the Komodo? thanks, great video.

[@nomancave591]

I'm confused as to why you need to use the variable ND in conjunction with the kit.

[@ChrisAbad]

Love this review! Can you please share the tripod head and legs in this video? Looking to have the same desk tripod setup :)

[@legendp2011]

what about a variable electronic matte box, think I saw something at ces

[@EposVox]

These are sick!

[@matthewaitkenfilms9477]

Shame this doesn't fit on the canon 14.5-60mm cine lens that I've rented a bunch of times, the end of that has a front diameter of 136mm haha

[@phototommyfive]

Does anyone know if this mattebox can fit over/around the bulbous Sigma 14-24mm lens hood?

[@adventureStaley]

Well that was a great review.

[@JustSamOfficial]

Loved it! thank you..

[@catnamestaken]

Cool stuff

[@offcenterconcepthaus]

One of your better ones.

[@johnroberts4000]

Can you put these Basecamp filters on a gimbal I just bought zhiyun weebil s does anyone know if they can work with a gimbal or would it be too heavy

[@SquareDealProd]

I really like this product, however, I find the wheel on the Stage 3 VND Basecamp Kit I just bought to be too hard to turn to achieve the Vario ND effect. It is a bit too difficult to get your finger in there to adjust the wheel as there is no room designed at the front to accommodate that, so depending on how you holding it you are at times awkwardly forced to use your fingernail at times - no fun at all. Why would PolarPro Basecamp design this so hard to get at? They figured that out on the Summit kit, but then forgot to add a flag to that kit, so no solution there either. And it's a tad too tight and requires too much effort to turn. I would prefer to turn it loose and then have a fast lock button of some kind next to the wheel. It would be an idea if they made use of hard stops so you do not have to turn it around full circle again, and it could use a marking on the wheel, a red line or white line which shows you when you are back to no ND effect, and then mark it off in 1stop, 2 stops, etc. I rather have that than push the ND toward "blue" being fully circular. PolarPro, on the next version, your designers should move the gold-brown tightening clamp to the other side and move the wheel from being on top to three O'clock if you are looking at it from behind attached to the lens. That way you could use your thumb or finger to easily turn it without having to move your hand off holding the bottom of the camera and its weight. The way you have it now you have to AWKWARDLY reach to the top and try to reach it while moving your hand off cradling the bottom of the rig and holding it steady for its weight. Gerald has it on a tripod. I would have liked to have seen him handhold the rig and adjust the wheel for a dose of why this needs an update on the next version of Bascamp. It's really clumsy at the moment. And does not need to be. PolaPro needs to do a little more product development here. Otherwise, mostly great.

[@GilbertTV]

great review

[@coolbuddydude1]

Summit or LEE filters ?

[@franklinmichael671]

11:00 😬😬 120$ for the rail mount?

[@chiokehart-kelly3481]

this looks good.

[@abdurrahmanalquran]

wish you gave us a top down view when sliding in filters 😔

[@Ranger7Studios]

Wow, this kit is really expensive once you start to build it out. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of ah-la-carte systems like this one. You'd be better off getting a cheaper mattebox and And adding a variable ND to that. This one can run you up to $600 if you're not careful. It's a very nice kit though.

[@sansone9651]

Hi Gerald, good content. However, recently Michael Maven said clearly in regards to neutral and various filters, they are not so useful and they are not worth the cost.

[@CheeseOnEverything]

I agree as a youtuber, you won't need these, but if you're doing serious film work like movies or docs, I think this might be a step up.

[@adrianbarrios8862]

Thanks for this thorough review! - I'm gonna pick one up. Just one quick question. I already have the Peter Mc Kinnon 2-6 ND filter, so should I go for the 6-9 ND that comes with the basecamp kit?

[@n.karamousadakis]

Same question. Is it worth purchasing the 6-9 Filter separately?

[@dongerramarco9617]

test the neewer nd for the poor man

[@benzinfilms8761]

i don't really get it. it's just a variable nd period. not really a mattebox when you have only one flag, and why the hell one only on top ??!! only advantage to me, no x lines and no color shift, ok but my variable nd does the same for half the price. and you still have the cons of a variable as the polariser effect on reflections. so i just don't get it...

[@ingolfurarnar697]

Bamm bamm bammbarabamm bamm bamm bamm he´s crazy!

[@everlyfamily]

And my gear envy continues to grow...

[@Pharesm]

How this filter stuff gets to cost as much as actual lenses is beyond me! *Filter makers must be making more bank than lens and camera manufacturers* cutting bottoms off of beer bottles...

[@MrPippec]

Pls. give me your original audio track from intro. i will make ringtone on my phone

[@gillesmatheronpro]

I wish all sponsored videos were just as in-depth, when usability and details really matter. They're not. But your is, it's all that counts !

[@Levi_Allen]

Great explanation of sponsorship at the beginning. I’m glad info on why multiple videos from multiple creators go up at the same time, is becoming more common knowledge. Fantastic walk through Gerald.

[@geraldundone]

Appreciate it, Levi. Thanks, man! 🤓🙏

[@KaidoLP]

The proprietary system killed it for me. 4x4 or even 4x5.6 would have had me thinking

[@lovefilms8948]

"closed eco system" damn, what a miss.

[@dan_hitchman007]

That's my concern too. If you need to switch products you have to buy all of your ND's again. Better to find one that can fit industry standard 4x5.6 ND's with empty filter trays you can leave on your glass. That way you don't keep touching the glass itself as you slide it in and out.

[@diogoalmeidavisuals]

I like good packaging as much as the next guy, but I'd actually like to see reviewers starting to praise more efficient packaging. With that I mean, uglier easily recyclable packaging that is not only better for the environment, as it would be cheaper to produce, so that the manufacturer can lower the overall product price. Yeah, cool boxes are great, but after the unbox you just get a carrying case and the box just stays in the corner somewhere.

[@AlexWinPhotography]

Diogo Almeida Exactly.

[@rectape]

Word

[@sullinsshoots]

D D GUND.... gots him some nice boxes! YES! I MADE IT BOYS! after a year of suggestions I made the intro. Haha appreciate the helpful infos, very comprehensive and in depth break down. I think everyone needs their products Undone! Yay k bye Intro:.....hows about a good old fashion What IS HAPPENING *two finger salute* Outro:... Well then your dead to me!

[@geraldundone]

Haha. My pleasure, Walt! Keep suggesting them. 🤓🙏

[@djvincon]

They should just add a USB drive with this video to the product. After watching youl just buy the product again.

[@markusr3259]

Recommended by Gerald: ooooo this could be worth getting. Proprietary mount: oookay maybe not. Looks like a great tool, really high quality, but the closed system nature of it is pretty off-putting for the mean time... I'd want to see several generations of this to be reassured that they weren't going to come out with a slightly different mount each time. Definitely will be keeping an eye out for if they introduce a compatibility add-on.

[@cugan83]

Yeah the closed system is a real downside.

[@geraldundone]

I was thinking about that, but since they currently offer a complete range of VND and ND as well as supports and cover every front filter size, they almost don't really need to add anything to the system. Other than that diffusion filter! But once they add that, it might be a closed system, but it's a complete one. So I don't think we're really missing out. Just my two cents.

[@alchemist_x79]

Way out of my price range, but I'm happy with the filters I use so it's all good. I enjoyed the video nontheless.

[@JT1993GG]

Oh right, ill sell my bpm's, nds 4x4 kit just so I can buy a lighter mattebox that looks cool. What a miss from polar pro..

[@bocusfocus9714]

For those who are interested: I just received my Mattebox and I can confirm that you can screw the Mattebox mount onto the Tiffen Black Promist Filter provided you got the 77mm or 82mm edition. This seems to be a decent workaround until Polar Pro releases their own Diffusion Filters.

[@davidlongenecker9414]

I think if you said you got paid $10k to do a review, I'd still 100% trust you. 😂

[@L-e-0-n]

With the summit version it looks like it can hold two "drop in" filters and the circular but with the basecamp and the vnd it looks like there wouldn't even be space for a diffusion filter, or am i wrong?

[@geraldundone]

You're correct. 🤓

[@PubFX]

Best review I’ve seen! Im wondering if the CP still acts as a polarizer with the VND? Could you theoretically rotate the whole matte box if needed? Also, do you have any thoughts on how well it cuts IR vs needing an extra IR cut screw filter

[@alphadanger2223]

did you figure out if the polariser works as a normal polariser too when used with the vnd?

[@LeeZavitz]

Looks dope. Very similar to Bright Tangerine in some ways. Too bad it cant take a standard 4x5.65 filter. But I like what they are doing.

[@overkillprojects8091]

One of the only reviewers I actually listen to... also Gerald is an expert at prying my wallet open.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

Wallet Undone.

[@MrsCap2]

When I heard 699$ I knew that this video is not for me ...I will come back next year if I am ready to hike with all this stuff and can spend some extra cash somewhere..

[@rectape]

Yes it’s a crazy price for what it is

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Like that intro transparency, very well done 👍🏻

[@paulacciardi9724]

Will this matte box work on your lens if you have a diffusion filter screwed on to the front of it? Not having 2 trays is the only downside I'm seeing witth this system. Thanks.

[@fitoperezproductions]

Great vid, as always... My question is regarding black pro mist filters and the like. How would you include one to this kit? Is that possible with the proprietary filter restrictions?

[@geraldundone]

You wouldn't be able to use existing filters with this kit. That's why I want them to make a diffusion filter for this system.

[@fitoperezproductions]

@@geraldundone thanks for responding dude! Yeah, that's the biggest downside. As a DP, access to pro mist filter use is super important on most projects. It's a shame bc I'd otherwise jump all over this. Perhaps if they made their own version of such a filter.. Keep being awesome man!

[@bocusfocus9714]

@@geraldundone Could you not just screw on the ProMist filter directly to the lens and then screw the PolarPro clamp onto that?

[@L-e-0-n]

Bocus Focus i think that should work unless the filtersize of the screwon filter is not bigger than the lens diameter and has a thread to put on the adapterring for the mattebox

[@fitoperezproductions]

@@bocusfocus9714 in theory, I suppose so, but one of the selling points of a mattebox is to be able to put on multiple filters so that when you switch lenses, the breakdown is minimal bc the filters are on the box, not the lens.

[@memop94]

time fly listening to this man, I thought this was a 10 minute video

[@rMr.big13]

Can the base kit be used with the canon laowa 12 mm , with the glass that protrudes forward? And also are there any IRNd filters available?

[@effectsmaster1]

Out of context G.U. quotes Part 1: 17:36 "I feel pretty confident shaking the hell out of it"

[@CamtasticRide]

Great video! Ive got a Sony FS5ii. So, is this still a matte box worth considering since I have a variable ND built into my camera and what I really need is something to block light? What might be the benefit of going for the full kit? Appreciate your thoughts on that Gerald. Also, nice save when that camera slid.

[@spo5egy]

Darn it Gerald, I just bought the dp500 last month and I love it apart from the front leaves little room for adjustment as I like to double up on quick release plates also so some of my lenses don't sit centre 🙄

[@JanneRanta]

These better be freaking amazing. Amazing to the point of filling your tax returns and taking your dog for a walk. The price is just insane.

[@RealDirectorofAwesome]

Hey Gerald. Great breakdown brother. I know you have much new stuff to deal with outside of this, BUT you said that you like to use double quick releases. OMG. I have been trying to figure out what QR system I need to do that. Would you mind referring me to the quick release product you use. By all means, make it an affiliate link please! I would really appreciate that help my man. Thanks a ton if you can help a desperate fella from having to get an engineering degree. 😂

[@brendonw3178]

>proprietary aight I'm out but still neat

[@CalumDavies]

This system look great as an option for my bmpcc4k

[@nicholassaephanh4407]

When you say the "lightest in its class" does that mean there are others for probably much more money that are significantly lighter?

[@geraldundone]

No, I meant for the size and purpose. Because you could make a smaller 4x4 matte box that has fewer features and which can't accommodate as many lens diameters for lighter, but it's not really comparable. But for any regular 4x5.6", 114mm matte box, this is the lightest, I believe.

[@nicholassaephanh4407]

@@geraldundone Ah, I see! Thanks so much.

[@jonjoy-gaba315]

Thanks for sharing! I ordered one using your link. This matte box solution fixes everything I hate about my current one!

[@ekphotography]

I agree the packaging is on another level. The bags and everything look top notch. Thanks

[@reelweaver]

9:30 doesn't the color shift comes form the direction of the CPL as installed? Like if you would have changed its direction there is less or no color shift.