These Results Make NO Sense

they do make some sense if you think about it though
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[@itsvoo]

yo whats up guys i helped my brother move a truck load of bricks tonight and he threw bricks into my finger (the same one) 4 separate times so life is kinda suck rn Y'all know this isn't a demo, Right? 3.3/10

[@DerrickWade43]

the betting community must be in shambles rn

[@a_p_a_r_t7812]

Good

[@dimitrijedragic3652]

Thriving after expecting a shaky g2 navi and EF all coming off strong performances and packed schedules

[@blandon93]

I bet on mouz, faze are about to disband.

[@allangwant8462]

You are on point my friend i lost 500$ already

[@kingdenis2796]

As they should

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

Moral of the story: Do *NOT* come to Brazil.

[@Carlos-do2vh]

se loco pae, deixa po kkkk, só assim pra nois ganhar alguma coisa pelo visto kkkkkk

[@FerGouvea]

coe

[@rodrigog4290]

come to brazil we love you

[@daniel190594]

Aqui ninguem sobe kkkkkkk

[@turkeyman631]

well, vs Furia. Every other BR team crashed out.

[@ironrazor7244]

"its red gloves, its not one of the b players." is crazy

[@xlgapelsin6173]

I mean we do the same in game with agents. I love how these small details are actually a part of cs lol

[@FtL_CS]

and wasn't it against faze? maybe twistzz still remembered his old teammates skins.

[@gstar5956]

Lmaaooo, for reeall tho

[@Free-4554]

pay to lose is real boys

[@raylxh1925]

what surprised me the most is that furia somehow managed to win 13-4 on navi's mirage.

[@serlucian9155]

t was crazy

[@jaxxgotit643]

Furia W

[@deivison6459]

As a brazilian, i did not expected that perform from furia, i think no one was, what i was expecting at least was a 2-1 furia win or a loss, but not 2-0 with that astonishing perform.

[@romaliop]

Navi played like ass that whole match and it only got worse towards the end.

[@D4BSTEPfr]

navi team is tired. thye are to stressed, they need some time for themself

[@Danielbxt]

CS2 teams are immune against being in "top major winning form" for longer than like 1 tournament

[@soggybeanie]

i feel like its just too random, as long as the teams are about on the same level it depends whos lifegaming on what team. Sometimes u just have the bad timing on ur side

[@jcoxy1057]

It’s almost like everyone is fucking insane at the game 😂 but also it’s interesting to see tbh.

[@sollertia_]

it's almost as if the teams that got upset have played a few tournaments in a row and MR12 makes momentum more important than ever

[@hobgobbling]

most complicated game of rock paper scissors

[@MayoneighsRB]

Heroic and virtue pro made grand final in Rio major so they have a permanent Brazilian buff.

[@Carlos-do2vh]

nah, that was old Heroic...

[@sonnghoang3641]

​@@Carlos-do2vhhes saying both of them qualified to playoff

[@FerGouvea]

cap

[@joramsim]

@@sonnghoang3641no he is saying that both teams went to the grand finals of the IEM rio major 2022 lol

[@ballertheking1038]

2:46 heroic have a 38% win rate on Anubis. 3:21 furia have a 25% win rate on mirage and stomped the best mirage team in the world

[@ballertheking1038]

Also mongolz have a 38% win rate on Anubis.

[@murderspree]

honestly i believe something's up w brazil and their teams, while they are playing in brazil. i can't tell if navi players were exhausted, they had like 3+ finals so fast that they couldn't catch a break for at least like a week. that could be the reason why they lost. but besides that, navi lost against a shit mirage team while they were unbeatable on it and that's literally what i find really crazy. i wouldn't be surprised if this tourney was rigged in any way, but i don't think that would go well, since all the teams would just be caught playing way worse than expected

[@nguyentandung42]

@@murderspreemaybe because the Brazil players were so bad it throws pro players off.

[@froidd]

​@@murderspreewell, as a med student, jetlag is a bitch, but its always us on jetlag, so maybe teams are really feeling it

[@bigboyshassen59]

@@murderspree chinese teams user to super cheat in 1.6 during chinese events

[@BenjaminFranklin2u]

Think this tourney shows Euro teams what NA teams have always had to struggle with, which is travelling 24hrs into a new time zone. I think people underestimate the effect that long distance travel has on players.

[@adrieljordan6600]

does any team gets to play in their hometown ever?

[@icroosing]

Not a real excuse, pro orgs will get in the event location a couple days before it starts so they can rest and perform well

[@borisstojanovic6646]

Peak liquid traveled a lot, peak luminosity/SK also.. and they still dominated.. G2 won the last Dallas event, Vitality won Rio last year.. by your logic NA teams would be more competitive on the home soil but they still struggle to make any results 🤷‍♂️

[@whynot9963]

That is a fair point, but apart from all counter points mentioned above, when was the last time that NA team won NA Tier 1 tournament? 🤔

[@ArimaSenne1]

yea that messes up your sleep pretty bad

[@wengeance8962]

if spirit were there, they would be performing well just to add to the confusion

[@ziwuri]

lmao

[@huh-vc5ke]

Hot take: Shanghai major will have results similar to the blast Paris major last year where multiple tier 2 teams completely fuck up all of our Pickems and made the playoff and will be one of the most anticlimactic majors in cs history

[@hoangminhdo1259]

Actually at that time siuhy and iM was a tier 1 player but have a title of tier 2

[@jcwong4995]

Nah Rio major was most anticlimactic where VP won

[@jcwong4995]

​@@hoangminhdo1259jL was oso having heavy frags with apeks

[@mum-your]

just wait and watch mongolz make semifinals and all pickems get destroyed

[@hoangminhdo1259]

​@@jcwong4995i dont sure about jL was even good at that time , but apex surely good he won major anyway , but apex not a tier 2 , he a tier 1

[@ipseity_0]

i just knew this video was coming after watching that 10-2 to 11-13 comeback in that vit-heroic game 😂

[@V1olent_1337]

facts

[@xjamiec]

I think the Vitality players packed up and left after that 10-2 half, no idea what bots they replaced them with

[@efliedus1267]

fun stuff is Voo was so shocked he even forget to mention that. I watched this live and was in a such disbilief, like WTH?!

[@serlucian9155]

mr 12 and the state of cs2 economy= lottery

[@antman8845]

I had to go to bed before it ended but that Skullz clutch down on B where he kills the dude coming out double doors and then snaps up to the one coming out windows, that was crisp.

[@JustSluipere]

thats just MR12 for yall. 'uhuhu i can not watch 16-14 games uhuuhuu.''

[@Jacek2048]

They've been drugged.

[@Mot-dh5sx]

Kid named PGL Krakow 2017: Also Blast Paris 2023 ig

[@n1ckool]

iem Rio 2022, 2023, 2024 all have been unpredictable. There is something in Rio that makes the favourite teams lose.

[@hermes3976]

The madness begins with Z0nt1x aiming to low..

[@lvn5609]

In this tournament he would suddenly start aiming at the head I guess

[@23akshat]

mfs dont wanna get jumped 🤣

[@michaelrenee9738]

i believe a huge part of this is the schedule. these teams are playing in completely different time zones on a week to week basis. you could hear it in the navi and g2 comms how easily they were getting tilted. insane schedule, no time to practice, and an international esport that demands they play all over the world. next year is even gonna be worse.

[@nkazuyaaa]

I know somebody lost their house that night

[@waypoint4824]

It was me

[@MalcomJPrince]

Either most teams failed to acclimate to Brazil, or the betting mafia is very strong there (manipulating the water and food, or threatening the players) 😅

[@K_v_B]

Hi voo, thanks for the fairly consistent uploads on this channel. Haven't been able to keep up with the pro scene so much with how busy I've been lately. Your videos are an appreciated insight on stuff like this I don't really get the full story on when I just see the results. Hope you're feeling better!

[@Equalzer]

Brazilian teams ARE better in Rio but also the actual top teams playing just to fulfill contractual obligations. The next major is too close and many teams are basically "skipping" Rio. Makes more sense for Spirit to just nope out now.

[@ziwuri]

I really don't see individual players and coaches viewing it that way, the reason they're in their positions in the first place is because they always want to win.

[@markussakkinen7878]

​@@ziwuri atleast players in Navi were complaining that they had pretty much no rest before blast premier started and we're hoping to have some down time. It is not unheard to teams not focusing on a specific tournament on a packed schedule

[@SyRose901]

The MongolZ has a positive record against EF, I believe, like 3-1 from recent events? They're the favorites still in that matchup. VP won the rematch against The MongolZ, I kind of blame the lack of rest between the two matches of The MongolZ, less than two hours. Events in the Americas seem tocause the EU and AS teams to be really inconsistent. I mean, the one Asian team isn't perfectly consistent to begin with, but it seemed extra bad here. The best players except Zyw0o putting up some awful performance, too.

[@TopSubSaga]

Niko was riding helicopters before the tournament

[@01cton]

As a NaVi fan, I absolutely saw this loss coming. NaVi had been going to back to back to back finals tournament after tournament with barely any breaks in between, it makes sense they would burn out at some point, and especially with a style that relies on being constantly locked in concentrated the whole game, it’s just not sustainable. Honestly i think NaVi should lose and rest for the upcoming major.

[@lvn5609]

I second that

[@coooolibri]

it really makes no sense how faze won 3 tournaments in a row when cs2 came out, and now all the other teams seem to have caught up to them. as well as the guy who did the snaptap analysis of that one tournament, showing ropz had a 4000 ms overlap on his A and D inputs. a guy who i used to glaze the shit out of, and watch his surf, and co. thats the same guy who has longjump record in 1.6 not to forget. im really wondering how he has a 4 second average input overlap in his games, compared to other people, when he is the movement guy... would love to understand that. and to the state of counter strike, yeah. its really back and fourth since some time now. you cannot count on a team just cause they won the previous tournament, and you cant count anybody either. every team can beat every team 13-2, and then get rolled by a "worse" team right after with the same score. that is not a problem of the teams imo, its the missing rounds - chances to come back with a proper gun round. the economy was never adapted to those missing rounds. i enjoy the current state of the game, cause you never know what you got yourself into :D :D :D

[@Joleksu]

3:10 Cat goes to check if Voo has enough money left for food after all these upsets or if he has to go scavenge his own meal.

[@edvinasbrasas]

de_jetlag in full effect

[@sthlmfps]

There have been so many tournaments recently its crazy i feel bad for the pros

[@Ksz4k]

every team decided they are gonna cosplay 2014-2017 Virtus pro which means they can stomp everyone or lose to fcking tier 76

[@Zucth]

Reconize enemy plan base on glove color, WTF was that?!?

[@briondalion]

This is wild, there's so many new teams that are actually shaking things up, which I like....but I don't like absolute blowouts. But yea this video covered just about how every team is playing the opposite of what we would expect lmao

[@Jacob208]

Okay but we know G2 is always up and down, if their fraggers do not show up its gg because snax can only call basic shit. Navi seems to be having severe communication issues and most likely are quite stressed out (at least that's how it seemed in this tournament).

[@m0vx]

This is called saving strats and testing things in preparation for the Major

[@heferus6144]

Someone should investigate the waters of Brazil.

[@sallad2645]

If I had to make a guess, alot of these teams are probably worn out at the moment. Teams like Furia, Heoric, Mongolz etc have had nearly 3 weeks since pro league to chill and practice. Where guys like NAVI, FaZe, Vitality, G2 etc have hardly had 3 weeks worth of off time in the past 3 months combined.

[@esrynshudder4216]

This was great, love the content switchup lol

[@feschber]

Well it's simple: The relation "win", lets call it W, is not a (partial) order. It does not fulfill antisymmetry, as (a W b) and (b W a) can both occur in an event and especially transitiviy is not fulfilled as (a W b) and (b W c) does not imply (a W c).

[@pneuma23093]

Teses “Snap tap on” vs “Snap tap off” effect.

[@gstar5956]

I was tuning knto the different matches here amd there in between work and doing other stuff, and was confused as all get out because everytime i saw the "good" teams, they were getting fragged on lol. People missing smokes, getting timing'd like no other etc lol. Glad you made this video because i was like wtf is going on lol

[@oninada]

Watching this event has been the biggest emotional roller coaster of my life, in regards to esports. wtf even is this

[@Aapee1]

Navi losing mirage to furia is embarrassing really. What what if they had Zontix aiming low in the team?

[@Santseri]

Jet lag hitting hard on the Europeans

[@ainesh1406]

Matchfixing.

[@hqnoi8545]

2 Words. Match, Fixing

[@sitaro1207]

Don't think it's really "fixing". These teams might just want to focus on the major and decided it's not worth try harding in this tournament.

[@sh4rpys]

@@sitaro1207 That and they (especially NAVI) are probably starting to feel a lot of fatigue

[@MeinLebenMB]

it's either IBuyPower situation/ rio buff or prep for major, so teams play like shit to not show more of their weaknesses that can be VOD reviewed.

[@alxk3995]

Would be interesting to look into some of the matches more thoroughly. Maybe the top teams game plan for some maps are so well known that this alone gives the other team such a leg up?! Iirc we had situations like "team wins big event and can't get past group stage in the next" already in csgo. Not all the time ofc.

[@MarcosVinicius-iv2yn]

The most incredible thing for me is that LIQUID beats everybody but not FAZE, its impossible for them!

[@loganp7044]

I think it's nice when you never know which team is gonna win

[@complexgio5237]

The script going CRAZY

[@JenemyOK]

Game is random. Does the enemy fall? Doesn't he? Who knows. rng game = rng results

[@dankscarce]

Navi didn't want thet Brazilian smoke

[@jougenakai]

Paris 2023 major was like this

[@rhods23]

I feel like the game feels very different since the armory update, feels more responsive, not just frame rate and stability wise, I wonder if they sneakily changed something after the whole cs2 csgo comaprison stuff. Watching htis event, I've noticed way more spray transfers, more success vs moving targets and passive players suddenly playing better, at least so far, but this is obviously anecdotal. This could maybe also explain why G2's simplistic calling is being found out so easily as well.

[@LuccDev]

If you cross the equator, then the powers swap, it makes sense. It'll swap back when we go back to SIngapor

[@lorenzobiassio3257]

In the Brazilian CS community everyone is agreeing that European teams can't handle a long trip to play. I guess we'll see in the chinese Major

[@VAL1SYST3M]

lets not gloss over the fact that Heroic came back against Vitality from 2-10 on the first map, then proceeded to continue absolutely dominating them on Anubis for the 2-0

[@rishacha]

It's all to rattle betting systems

[@hoangminhdo1259]

Kid name ridiculous event: Major 2016 *cough cough* c9 winner *cough cough*

[@bgbd182]

2018*

[@Grey_TK]

Tbf jetlag should also be held into account, imagine flying across the world and switching timezones and play vs a team that is from the region. Still credit manly goes to the teams who managed to perform under these conditions

[@W1nterfield]

EF destroying g2 on ct side anubis was crazy, but after that mongolz doing same thing to EF was just funny at this point. Truly one of the tournaments of all time.

[@RenteaRadu]

these are just numbers

[@ShidNoh]

the fact that in this event heroic and furia look like the best teams is crazy, while faze liquid and g2 are out before playoffs

[@AK46_]

2:50 watched the vitality game live and that 2nd half has to be their worst recorded T sided since cs2 has started. Kysan called one hell of ct side but it just seemed like vitality couldn’t get over a mental block, round after round mistake after mistake it looked just looked like they had no chemistry.

[@hoangminhdo1259]

Apex to falcon, zywoo next igl of vit , mezii and spinx leave vit confirm

[@Nnovuh]

Traveling and MR12 is my guess

[@markussakkinen7878]

I'd say packed schedule. Navi had like one day off before blast started. They be tired

[@Franco-sn7ey]

What do you expect, Brazil is where the most random shit happens and where the most bizarre clips are recorded on flip flops and then are reposted on social for at least 5 years with the same damn title.

[@ahmetusluoglu5984]

3:37 xantares did the same a few months ago in a nuke match when he spotted outside player with yellow gloves ig. comms are turkish so it's not noticable by desk.

[@downnnnnn]

I can think of one event with crazier results… Rio 2022 ☠️

[@bruh1519]

it is probably the BO1s and the MR12 system which makes it hard to win consistently imo

[@jarednhara7805]

i thought it was just me who noticed like wth?😂💀

[@mellowbird4947]

script writers are cooking

[@Pessoa4729]

Furia is on fire! Events in Brazil boosts fallen do much... I didn't believe when i saw furia 2x0 against navi

[@aminboukertouta2469]

That twistzz clip confuse me for two days bruuuhhhh

[@FlewMagoo]

I literally stopped watching this event because it felt like a random number generator

[@leaveacomment]

doesn't even mention VP cuz he knows where Jame is going

[@lvn5609]

Jame is going to save

[@schmeesmclaren1570]

Its a mix of fixing and MR12

[@chaboi685]

My take is T1 teams are enjoying partying and being in Rio and don't care about the tournament, while T2 teams are not only just playing pretty well but care about the tournament still.

[@Greenscreen_XDude]

Brazil's curse is real

[@mauricefunk161]

You are completely speak my mind bro! :D:D

[@Jop3lius]

4:35 to be frank here, Furia could have prepped specifically for this tournament and catch everyone offguard but i think its more about some extra motivation. Brazilians in general place very high value on representing their country. What comes to the rest of the results between other teams, i have no idea, lack of motivation?

[@arc-sd8sk]

mad upsets today it was bonkers

[@DocJ38]

All the results are actually very acceptable and expected, the only teams that “should” be winning are navi and vitality, no one else’s “win or loss” vs any other team is a shock, fhe entire scene has been for a while random in the sense that only a couple of teams do well and then its a 50/50 across the table in the top 20, so the only 2 matches that were a shock in the entire event are navis loss to furia and vitalities loss to heroic, and nikos bad game(g2 losing isnt a surprise what so ever its the fact that niko just ddnt play well)

[@peachy5637]

Mr Voo CS can we get a Furia video on mirage since Furia has been extra bad on it as of late and Navi is mega good at it

[@JokerVLD13]

at this point navi wins all pistol rounds just to lose the anti-eco

[@falk.r.h8963]

i think this is also because of mr12. if one team gets some lucky pistol round wins then they can win against anyone

[@memedzaddy]

They need rest, There should be a 3 week cs leave period where cs pros get to rest after a huge tournament event

[@tmzera]

Couldn't this also be related to the new update (the one that changed models animations), it might be trowing a lot of the pros off cause it basically changes how you approach some gun fights.

[@manithefluffy]

glad to see another voo meltdown video.. I'm pretty sure EF got beaten coz Calyx did not aim high enough

[@qrew]

Theres no pause for the team to rest. Thats the biggest reason and also no time to study gam tactitcs and do training etc

[@ToMy3234]

Can we fuckin finally admit that all the pro matches are just literally fully dependant on how the teams feel or dont feel it that day ? All the results are completely random all the time,there is no sign of consistency at all.All T1 are just really really good on very similar level and it doesent matter who beats who at event,the 2nd event always can be completely opposite and nothing means shit. No team is better than other and if it is its by such slight margins that it doesent even fckin matter.Lets stop overhyping shit and drawing conclusions all the time.The boys just play,sometimes they win sometimes they lose,theyre not magically better of worse match to match or event to event .

[@WhyitJellyDonut]

Their definitely grinding xp fr

[@GoonWav]

think these teams are still burt out from blast

[@ElBozoII]

note to self to always pick furia and heroic players for rio

[@maruftim]

everyone is too 'overworked' maybe?

[@jpblahblah]

NAVI isn't out yet. While G2 and vitality are out. NAVI will still play against Virtus Pro tomorrow.

[@manemisdonmalasnemissalata6324]

maybe theyll prepare for next event i mean the price pool is like 250k in this tournament

[@cakemanzero]

Dont forget that heroic made a 10-2 comeback to win 13-11 vs vitality, then 13-5 on the next map. VITALITY WON 2 T ROUNDS THAT MATCH. *2*