These Sunset Changes Are CRAZY! | Dev Update Reaction

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[@fleur.]

no way, they finally found the rotting corpse of the person who was in charge of overseeing harbor for the past 9 months

[@MuzMysyq]

poor person fell in a puddle somewhere and nobody came to help😔

[@hh-jy8ff]

​@@MuzMysyq it's a lagoon

[@aisulol]

​@@hh-jy8ffnice one

[@alexanderisraelsson6516]

@@MuzMysyq lmao

[@dworry]

@@hh-jy8ff elite joke

[@beerson9474]

My favorite part of a TMV video is watching his hand gestures in the mirror.

[@Dinmc123]

Related😂

[@GambleNats]

Literally what I do all the time

[@thetrueherm5306]

Sunset was getting stale so I feel like this is a good change

[@spencer4679]

The ledge on the right side of site is so that attackers can hold market from the headshot angle without anyone from boba seeing the tops of their heads

[@mageferago]

Harbor acknowledged, thank you riot games...

[@HerOwnKnife]

Harbor players are starved so much they get happy to just hear his name 😢

[@funkmonk3021]

ranked roll back should be added to afk too. Being classified as a tac fps and not having this even when splatoon has a detecton of its own is just absurd.

[@chervilious]

then you just bully someone or make someone afk when you're losing so you get rank rollback or have teammates afk so save some elo

[@benjaminchen4367]

This is way too easy to take advantage of, people are just going to afk when they're losing so they don't lose RR. It would be like allowing someone to dodge mid game

[@azuki.mv4]

bro wants the /remake available for the whole game 💀😭🙏🙏🙏

[@senpaishade]

​@@benjaminchen4367 arguments like these make no sense, just add a harsh afk penalty for the player who does it. You could even punish the whole queue stack if you're afraid of smurfs doing it for the friends they are playing with.

[@MrWhite995]

too much room for abuse

[@watwat55104]

every sage with a shotgun mad the box to the right gone

[@abrawolf]

No, it was the oppressive ass cypher trip that every cypher was doing that you couldn't break unless you had 1 of a small group of agents on your team

[@dishantkumar6121]

9:00 dev's face when we ask for replay system

[@susvideos]

OMV finally happy with sunset

[@sodiumcl-z5n]

oiled mans valo on top

[@vincenzosama]

When I heard "changes to Gekko" I was surprised. Like, a "nerf", right? Because I don't believe Riot still thinks Gekko is "weak". I mostly play Gekko and I don't even think it's fair to buff him anymore man lmao

[@funkycrawler619]

I just hope it isn't overkill. I believe increasing his ult to 8 and just changing his Pick Up/Re-use CDs would be the way to go.

[@vincenzosama]

@@funkycrawler619 I don't think the "pick up" is the main question, they will maybe nerf Thrash ult points from 7 to 8. But they can also do this too. Heck, maybe nerf Dizzy time of reaction lol.

[@funkycrawler619]

@@vincenzosama Maybe. I'd only say Pick-Up cause it is pretty gracious in between lol I feel they could slightly touch it but yea its not the biggest concern (though if the concern is Thrash frequency making the pick up longer for utility does also affect that). CD also would make sense (given Vyse is at 20 i wouldnt be surprised if they do the same for Gekko or even 15).

[@bumerang6525]

probably ult point nerf i cant think of any nerf because other things kinda balanced

[@leosimvuiseng2926]

gekko needs nerf even remember when gekko was buff that time i already know there is abit or some op there i mean even released have already bit broken

[@aizuni]

The ranked rollback was much needed omg.

[@mercifuldeath]

Still not oiled up... What patch is that happening in?

[@yukkiriko]

yea B cooked

[@hastyscorpion]

4:23 raising the market side of B site means that as an attacker you can actually play in that area. It means that retakers have to be right on top of the ledge to be right on top of the ledge and actively clear that spot in order see you.

[@azari_osaka]

yr telling me we have to be right on top of the ledge to be right on top of the ledge??? :0

[@saibotshawdow5090]

Can’t even play Val rn the new update makes the game freeze constantly

[@gmailplayz286]

I had a similar issue with the updates, to fix it I just had to update my bios to stop crashing and lower my mouse polling rate to

[@ZZZ-Wyvern]

I think harbor should be able to move all his smokes and walls like Jett does, so you have better control over how you wanna place the cove or you can put the cascade on a better angle, or turn it 90 degrees so you can block off a choke point without staring at it

[@BizzUK]

4:23 removes the headshot angle onto players standing down there and means it's actually a viable spot to fight from

[@skidoo5397]

The raised bit next to market is so you can stand and strafe/fight market without exposing your head to Boba

[@KirbosCorner]

I hated that angle

[@Sugarist0]

Can’t wait to get banned for telling my homie to fuck off after he stole my rifle 🗿

[@ArkbladeIX]

In the thumbnail you look like a kid who got socks for christmas

[@augustodornelles1193]

Not gonna lie i kinda liked this changes in sunset i think they kinda cook

[@Hoserzzz]

The last 3 cheaters I ran into, I didnt get my RR back. Glad they're making this change.

[@adnanerochdi6982]

4:35 that part was raised so defenders can still see and punish b main pushes from that angle and not be covered with a single smoke far in front of market. I believe we can watch over those smoke now, therefore two smokes will become necessary, one for market, and another for that grass part. Just what i think. Lmk if you agree!

[@Mothsune]

another rotation of ranked maps and ascent is still not fucking removed

[@kaustabhchakraborty4721]

My boi cypher should not get a nerf again plzzz😢

[@andyluan7183]

I just hope they don’t buff too crazy Phoenix because on console his flashes are basically undodgeable, he’s in the top 3 dualist rn on console

[@brisankatarafder6395]

teams can still do B main postplant. there's really no reason to not play that.

[@halalola432]

Obviously they can, but it’s a lot harder now because there’s no box

[@Sg190th]

FINALLY they working on Phoenix now?

[@Saul30119]

Rip cypher entry block trip

[@otysafiry]

I'd really like some different type of rank reset. I know I can play against higher ranked players than me, but my playtime is limited so ranking up for me takes...forever (50h workweek, other commitments, life). I initially placed low when I started (I deserved it, I was bad and knew nothing and it was my first FPS at 37yo), now I've improved significantly and regularly play with higher ranked people in 10-mans many saying I should be placed higher (most saying high gold/low plat). But because of how the rank reset works...you almost always get placed lower than your peak....

[@fantsw]

As a console player, please don’t buff phoenix🙏

[@GragCM]

Can’t wait to see tmv reacting to being oiled up 🤤

[@v_cpt-phasma_v689]

rank resets just shouldnt be a thing, cs faceit doesnt have them, CS mm doesnt have them, so clearly comp shooters can run fine without them, just need a new system that encourages players that reach the top to continue playing, maybe just reset radiants so they go into a top500 leaderboard and the players get a tag with their position so they strive to get best position possible, because for say a plat player they dont need a rank reset to want to continue playing, they will continue playing until they get to radiant, resetting rank just knocks them back for no benefit, with boosted players/smurfs, they will just naturally go to where they belong anyway, boosted players will have less than 50% winrate and will just go down, and smurfs will just go up

[@kbizzle634]

I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS. WE MAKING IT TO IMMO NOW GIVE ME MY RR BACK

[@Infernal07]

another dev update, and the biggest problem in Valorant, smurfing, still completely ignored. aaah, I'm back to smurfing in Iron for another season ig

[@Vaaero]

Well what do you want them to do?

[@Dunkndosentz]

10:40 uh huh 100% I couldn’t imagine saying anything negative to my teammates 400 times a game

[@foopygoopy1860]

Sunset basically got worse???? Easier to post plant??? Like what. Thats the main issue. The changes looked like it just made it worse. But I'm glad they nerfed the size of the chokepoint! The nerfs and buffs don't make sense either. What are they doing 💀

[@butcherdesuyoi]

But isn't A site terrible for Post plant as well? They didn't do some changes to it?

[@getmusicallytrigerd2861]

handsome ginger chap

[@GangsterKatt43]

w i can still shit talk my team8ts in swedish

[@bobbobby475]

If they really care about the highest competitive they would fix the formatting of VCT cause it's garbage for everyone

[@yepyep4840]

Planting inside the new corners means more of a spam fest from main no? That means you need sage everytime.

[@ArkbladeIX]

There will always be spam post plants on sites like this where you have LOS to the site from the choke point. It just shouldn't be as horrible anymore because the lack of middle cover and narrower choke makes it easier to counter spam or fight them.

[@mebtre5799]

If you’re still not gonna put fracture back in at this point just delete the map, jesus i’ve been waiting for it to get back into rotation for idk, almost two years?

[@azari_osaka]

lmfao it’s only been a year

[@stonechestplate928]

so sunset b is just abyss a now (without the elevation)

[@khemchandrachaudhari2863]

goodluck with voice comm system in APAC and India

[@Feecofinated]

kay/o knife clears both when going out of main

[@user-gm3mb4kr2l]

I think they should buff reyna by making it so that using her ult make her immune to all debuffs, blind, slow, poison, suppress etc

[@halalola432]

Blind, suppress is def too overpowered. MAYBE the others

[@aerozel4]

Maybe just removes debuffs upon activation, but not immune to succeeding ones. Can counter initiator ults mostly.

[@arnabbb]

cant wait for patch 9.11

[@SKRIE.]

10:20, I’ve been saying this for years, thank god they’re finally doing it.

[@TateKing-cc5pt]

thinking mans Vikings fan😮

[@rationalintellect]

Please make rnt vs spg 🙏

[@jackalcrackle]

I think rr rollback should be applicable to intentional afk or throwing on your team (if by 3 ppl or more). Also a possibility is if a confirmed smurf account is verified and detected, that some form of rollback is given, as it is a breach of competitive integrity.

[@cvd1]

Smurf isn't bannable unless it was purchased

[@obtusemooose]

thats impossible to moderate. you cant possibly tell whether someone is throwing or just bad unless its an extreme circumstance. even moreso with smurfs. trust me, you dont want that level of oversight

[@Stormtimbers]

Nah, I do want that level of oversight actually

[@obtusemooose]

@@Stormtimbers trust me you wont. your friend will get banned for his mouse dcing in the middle of the game. and it isnt possible anyways.

[@patat007]

still not doing anything about fucking smurfs.

[@curie1420]

i dont know bout you but everyone i know already dropped this game on a year or more ago

[@abderrahmansaadan]

What about replay System 😪😪😪😪

[@TheHandHistoryVault]

Nerf Gekko? You can't be serious.

[@Aiddire]

ISO needs rework

[@saibotshawdow5090]

Dose gekko need a buff or nerf? I feel like he in a good spot

[@Sultanog231]

His ult needs a nerf there is no way it should be 7 cost when Skye’s ult is 8

[@TheHandHistoryVault]

Gekko needs a buff, not a nerf. His ULT is 50/50. If there's more than 1 alive, shooting at it, it's likely to be stopped easily. Sure you can up the cost to 8. Then buff his flash and molly. There's no reason why Raze nade should be the best in the game.

[@halalola432]

@@TheHandHistoryVaultnope, he’s pretty strong right now no way he gets buffed lol

[@saibotshawdow5090]

@@TheHandHistoryVault gekko flash def don’t need a buff

[@sebastiansalvatore8365]

​​​@@TheHandHistoryVaultit's the Best initiator rn what do You mean it needs a buff?

[@misterme1134]

I am banned for 1 entire month cuz I typed something a tiny bit rude...

[@hoeist1729]

cypher will be given 1 trip

[@eschess_]

I think that would be a bit overkill. I do believe that the tris will get changes tho. Hopefuly they revert that trips keep being up after one player/pirce of util got through. Maybe they will make the trips visible/audible earlier/easier and then Cyher should be fine imo

[@StikZ]

everytime i reported smt for cheating i always said pls refund rr you guys r welcome

[@spooky5644]

sunset is gonna be so attacker sided now

[@hastyscorpion]

They made getting out of the choke in b significantly harder

[@halalola432]

@@hastyscorpiondidn’t they made it easier with no cypher trip tho?

[@sebastiansalvatore8365]

​@@halalola432cypher is still good, just need to search for new trip wires

[@obtusemooose]

its already been. and getting onto site is harder and holding site is harder. i dont see how thats true at all

[@senpaishade]

​@@halalola432That Cypher trip didn't really do anything anyway, if you brought any agent that can break utility you could easily take the site once you destroy it.

[@cvd1]

RIP heretics

[@calvinwu4885]

Great, so pretty much they just made this site pretty much un-retakable with all the boxes and ratty corners you can hide in + spam from market and main. Thanks riot

[@Subawoo123]

Clove a weak controller? Bro what💀

[@sebastiansalvatore8365]

@@Subawoo123 she is the 2nd weakest controller

[@Browniev2]

when you have Omen in the game what is the reason to play a Clove. I want to know. Is it the heal? Is the 8 second heal better than the best AND most versatile flash in the game? Is it Meddle? I KNOW it's not Meddle, you'd much rather have two dirt cheap repositions than Meddle. Is it being able to smoke after death? The thing that's only useful at stopping retakes in post-plant? Is it the limited range you have on Clove that Omen doesn't have? Is it the ult that barely gets any value, much like Clove's competitiors in Omen and Astra? What's the thing that makes them good enough to not warrant a buff?

[@Subawoo123]

@@sebastiansalvatore8365 weaker than harbor, astra, or viper with one Molly? Hell to the no

[@ArkbladeIX]

​@@Subawoo123they're shit in pros, good in ranked. That's why he said he wasn't sure whether riot considers them weak. It's context dependent

[@Subawoo123]

@@Browniev2 well, for starters her heal ability practically gives her a guaranteed free second kill if you can out aim people most times on an entry, similar to iso except she’s much harder to hit due to speed increase, which makes sense since he gets shield. Her smokes, unlike omen, can be deployed instantly across map or twice at once on a site, comes in handy on multiple occasions. Her smokes are also much better than omens, denser similar to brims. That leaves her decay, not as strong as omen’s flash obviously but there isn’t much util in the game that is. I don’t even need to mention her ult, miles better. So yeah I find her to be perfectly balanced, and I have a 1.45 k/d with her this act as of now in diamond. Most played agent as a controller main, there are at least 3 controller agents weaker than her, possibly 4.