These Teen Boys Took Their Horror Movie Obsession Too Far... The Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart

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@Fre3_Smok3
@Fre3_Smok3 2 ай бұрын
16 is old enough to know wtf is wrong or right. leave them in prison
@MrsJedmo
@MrsJedmo 2 ай бұрын
Amen
@angelabordack
@angelabordack 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@whimsicalsimmer00934
@whimsicalsimmer00934 2 ай бұрын
Agreed! We all make mistakes at 16, but murder is not one of them!!
@tracilord4854
@tracilord4854 2 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@terridemaio2926
@terridemaio2926 2 ай бұрын
LEAVE THEM LOCKED UP I SAW THIS ONE ON WEB OF LIES
@nicholasmumford5616
@nicholasmumford5616 2 ай бұрын
I’m a police officer in southeastern Idaho, about an hour away from Pocatello. We studied this case in the police academy. I’ve seen the crime scene and autopsy photos. The perpetrators were children in age only. They methodically planned this with cunning far above their years.
@adamo80nine
@adamo80nine 2 ай бұрын
Obviously it wasn't planned well enough, they were idiots. Luckily.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
They planned for months maybe even 1 year+ but thank God they were dumb
@NoraG789
@NoraG789 2 ай бұрын
Agree But at 16. 😢 I'd be unsure about life as at 16 your still not fully developed mentally wise, &also it could be down to the company these children at 16 & younger keep to be around and,......I'm not blaming the parents but at 16 in every generation! Should be involved in the child's life. Either sneakily scoop them out or out right be on their back ! At least try fail but try again never give up on your child so they have you a parent to turn to so this doesn't happen¡! But these 2 in this video clearly are sick clearly . I believe anyway she's the best. Bed in heaven with God & her loved ones who went before her in Jesus Name May she forever rest in peace God Amen ❤may God forgive them all involved look after these boys parents as we are all only human & only. Try our best as parents 😢 Amen 🙏
@ilbwamh15
@ilbwamh15 2 ай бұрын
No one likes cops
@andrea.gardner
@andrea.gardner 2 ай бұрын
​@@NoraG789stop. You are literally defending murderers. They made a choice. They knew what they were doing
@viancamorales12
@viancamorales12 2 ай бұрын
These were my classmates. I still think about this often. Anytime someone covers it, I have to watch. RIP Cassie.
@andrea.gardner
@andrea.gardner 2 ай бұрын
I had a classmate get murdered by a former classmate. Today is 32 years and it still stings and brings grief. My heart is with you and the rest of your classmates. I get it.
@andrea.gardner
@andrea.gardner Ай бұрын
@@Donny_Double_Dip I never made it about me. Apparently you don't understand empathy. 🙄 Go troll elsewhere
@Bighead9871
@Bighead9871 Ай бұрын
Damn I’m class of 2016 poky high
@Sunsetdreamer0
@Sunsetdreamer0 2 ай бұрын
Kendall on her channel just recently said they have given 7 grants already from their foundation! Thats incredible ❤
@terridemaio2926
@terridemaio2926 2 ай бұрын
Yes I saw that Also on web of Lies
@CháleloTheAtheist
@CháleloTheAtheist 2 ай бұрын
@@terridemaio2926They’ve done more just by uploading content on this platform, Your negativity is unwanted.
@hellurellur
@hellurellur 2 ай бұрын
Gotta say, I was a weird kid that watched horror movies constantly but you know what it did to me? Made me want to draw fantasy horror... not commit murder. These idiots are sick in the head.
@KerrieKruegner
@KerrieKruegner 2 ай бұрын
As with many imaginative creative people Giod luck With the fantasy Art!
@stem420
@stem420 2 ай бұрын
One of my really good friends was obsessed with horror films and even made Freddy Kruger fingers/glove in some metal workshop in school. He got expelled and had to go in front of the board and beg to let him stay. He didn't get to stay in regular school, had to go to alternative school, but he never killed anyone.
@kayemendi4501
@kayemendi4501 2 ай бұрын
I have loved horror movies since I was 5 years old. Never in my life has it entered my mind to turn a fake horror movie into reality.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 2 ай бұрын
Because you're not completely a psycho.
@Despondencymusic
@Despondencymusic 7 күн бұрын
Indeed. They were so messed up already, if it wasn't horror films that would have triggered them...something else would have. Torey's parents were 100% enablers.
@zouz8195
@zouz8195 2 ай бұрын
Austin’s “say it BACK” is relatable AF lol
@MarissaWilson-bc4xm
@MarissaWilson-bc4xm 2 ай бұрын
Tori’s parents in the interview is actually insane, you can see him wanting to take responsibility and his parents just won’t let him. This whole case is wild, I remember hearing about it briefly before.
@wendy_g
@wendy_g 2 ай бұрын
I am not a parent and just came on here to say a huge respect for the fact that Josh said that parents are responsible for the kids action (to some extent) and that he would take responsibility if he was in this situation. My husband and I have chosen not to have kids and have held this same point of view. We have had so many people told us that we are not parents and would not understand. Thank you for understanding both of you!! And yes..well said...we have to do SOMETHING different!!! Great episode.....been following from day one of this channel and day one of Kendell as well!! Love all the Mile Higher content!!
@daniann19_91
@daniann19_91 2 ай бұрын
Torey just looks at his parents like “Do you guys actually believe what you’re saying?!” 🤦🏻‍♀️ The Denial is strong!
@barbarabell8674
@barbarabell8674 2 ай бұрын
I know this story, and it’s sick! Almost didn’t watch, but supporting Cassie, and Lights Out. Yes! They need to rot in prison!
@Emrose93
@Emrose93 2 ай бұрын
What a horrible story.. I feel so bad for Cassie’s family..
@ellaynuhh
@ellaynuhh 2 ай бұрын
the school should absolutely be held responsible for part of it. They did nothing, they could have brought this to the parents attention, they could have offered in school counseling. In the end would it have mattered? who knows, but they did little to absolutely nothing to bring it to attention to anyone
@Shineysculpture1
@Shineysculpture1 Ай бұрын
How could the school have prevented this? They had no idea of what the two had planned. They were very good at hiding their violent fantasies.
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 2 ай бұрын
‘School at this point terrifies me’ is such a mindboggling statement. I’m glad to live in the UK where there was 0 risk of me never coming home from school and there will never be that risk for my children. Schools should be a safe place. It’s extremely hard to reconcile the fact that American adults place more value on their right to own a firearm than a child’s right to life.
@crystalthornton3842
@crystalthornton3842 2 ай бұрын
I love my country.. love my rights to bare arms .. and love my children. There's 0 risk in your mind... I worked in the emergency room more people die in car crashes than murder. BTW shut up about the USA ...I bet you have never even been to America!!!! Stick to talking about what you know.
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 2 ай бұрын
@ I’ve been to America 9 times thank you. I could never live in a country where I’m scared to send my children to school. It’s madness to me!
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
​@@aliceepalermo5047NO where is safe
@LeeMorano
@LeeMorano 2 ай бұрын
Except they used knives, not guns. And you can't compare the 2 countries. At all. Different demographics, not to mention black market and unsecured border. Murderers will find a way. Further, this didn't happen at school.
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 2 ай бұрын
@ Josh and Austin spoke about school shootings in the episode.
@sonjadesjarden6583
@sonjadesjarden6583 2 ай бұрын
I think they should serve their sentence in prison for their crime. Parents of the boys know they did wrong and need to face the truth. I send prayers and condolences to the parents of the young lady who was taken at such a young age.
@caitlindavis9097
@caitlindavis9097 2 ай бұрын
As someone who has grown up in Idaho and still lives here, it's a common problem across the board here that schools would rather bury their heads in the sand than do anything to help students with anything to do with emotions or behavior. It's a huge problem around here
@aja.m.lareau
@aja.m.lareau 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the foundation! I think it’s awesome that you guys are helping these families through the hardest times of their lives
@mckaydlha
@mckaydlha 2 ай бұрын
The video of them driving was the day before my 5th birthday… it’s so erie knowing monsters are just walking on this earth while we are living our lives and enjoying happy moments 😣
@carlalee23
@carlalee23 2 ай бұрын
Torey scares me. His parents have done him such a grave disservice, too. He needs to remain behind bars - they both do.
@NoraG789
@NoraG789 2 ай бұрын
But at 16. 😢 I'd be unsure about life as at 16 your still not fully developed mentally wise, &also it could be down to the company these children at 16 & younger keep to be around and,......I'm not blaming the parents but at 16 in every generation! Should be involved in the child's life. Either sneakily scoop them out or out right be on their back ! At least try fail but try again never give up on your child so they have you a parent to turn to so this doesn't happen¡! But these 2 in this video clearly are sick clearly . I believe anyway she's the best. Bed in heaven with God & her loved ones who went before her in Jesus Name May she forever rest in peace God Amen ❤may God forgive them all involved look after these boys parents as we are all only human & only. Try our best as parents 😢 Amen 🙏
@atbvip
@atbvip 2 ай бұрын
@@NoraG789why do you keep commenting the same thing. It’s gross how you’re defending deranged killers. 16 is young, but not young enough to act like they shouldn’t be held responsible for taking a long time to plan out a murder and then actually act on it. They both stabbed her several times. That takes a lot of effort, more than just shooting someone. Get a grip.
@susanbob8285
@susanbob8285 Ай бұрын
@@NoraG789yeah your brain might not be fully developed but it’s developed enough to know that you SHOULDN’T MURDER SOMEONE! No excuse for it!
@carolyncasner4806
@carolyncasner4806 2 ай бұрын
Brian is doing his mental work. Tori is in denial. Tori's parents are correct , he is easily manipulated, by them
@haileyranson8255
@haileyranson8255 2 ай бұрын
Listening to the conversations they're having the night before, they don't even sound like teenagers. They sound like 9 year olds playing stupid and random games with their toys. The immaturity in their voices, the cadence in which they're speaking, the actual sound of their voices and the weird noises they're making - they really so sound like very young children who haven't learned how to regulate themselves at all. Considering they're 16, it honestly seems to me that they have learning deficiencies that are quite pronounced. Listening to this reminds me of what I overheard when my 11 year old plays with her friends and their toys. Obviously not the subject matter, but the stream of consciousness in the way their conversation is structured. The adults in their lives have failed completely. The only way they got to this point is because the adults responsible for them have consistently failed in addressing concerns and intervening and getting help with certain behaviours. Listening to them is actually so shocking and disgusting that it turns my stomach 😢
@hennzyjohnson
@hennzyjohnson 2 ай бұрын
I can't imagine, school shootings are becoming more and more a thing, i am from Iceland and we don't have guns, the police do not carry them on the daily but instead of the gun violence, knife violence are becoming more and more a thing, why can't we just argue like normal people, with our mouths, not hands.
@andrea.gardner
@andrea.gardner 2 ай бұрын
These cases make me angry. 32 years ago I was 15 and my clasmate was brutally murdered by a 16 year old former classmate. He got life in prison without parole and then the Supreme Court decided that was inhumane. 🤬 What is truly inhumane is knowing Beth was told "I could kill you right now" and then was. The pain she felt as her life was taken from her is what is inhumane. What is inhumane is every year we have to resign petitions and write the parole board and relive the horror of what was taken from this world. Beth was 15. That is how old my daughter is now. I look at her and see me at 15 and I see Beth at 15 and think "Jesus, we were f'ing babies still!" I was forced to grow up in a truly cruel way. These murderers took a life so they can pay with their life. That is not even truly justice for the REAL VICTIM, but it is at least something. The murders are NOT victims. They will never be victims. They made a choice.
@ashleighnewell3265
@ashleighnewell3265 2 ай бұрын
I believe Matt just didnt believe his friends would actually kill his girlfriend who they were also friends with. I think he was probably freakimg out internally at the fact it could be a possibility
@TwigMaiden
@TwigMaiden 2 ай бұрын
Horrible people will find any excuse to use to justify their disgusting behavior
@hannahkavanagh6105
@hannahkavanagh6105 2 ай бұрын
Love this podcast!! Just spent the last 5 months listening to 5-10 episodes a day while working. Completely caught up now, excited for next week's episode! Love from Ireland!
@JulieJJ-
@JulieJJ- 2 ай бұрын
2:43 the sooner the better lol. I've been so looking forward to watching your ghost investigation, every week I'm like please let it be the ghost investigation 🙏🏼. Still love & watch you every week but I'm just so excited to watch yous do this 😁😆 and just know it's gonna be so much fun 😆😂
@bonniedeaves422
@bonniedeaves422 2 ай бұрын
Love, love, love Austin's advertorials!!! The husky voice & humour gets me every time ❤😅❤
@kirstywhyte3496
@kirstywhyte3496 2 ай бұрын
His parents are not helping him at all by their attitude. He'll go through life always feeling hard done by. Can't recall the case I watched recently but again the crime was by a teenager and those parents just came straight out, turned their son in, felt devastated they had apparently raised a monster and said there were no excues.
@amandahyatt
@amandahyatt 2 ай бұрын
They are old enough. They planned and executed.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
​@@Donny_Double_Dip Ya think??
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
@@Donny_Double_Dip Hit a nerve eh
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
@@Donny_Double_Dip Never seen so many words have 0 sense/meaning. Congratulations
@macseth
@macseth 2 ай бұрын
I now watched Lights Out, Kendall, and Mile Higher on a weekly basis, but I used to just watch the channel EWU before I discovered y’all. I’ve now watched probably 100 EWU videos, but the very very first EWU video I ever watched years ago was their coverage on Tori and Brian murdering Cassie. I have to say… over the years I’ve consumed hundreds of hours of true crime and one of the main stories that stuck with me was this one. So when I saw that y’all (Lights Out) covered this story I was STOKED. Was it better than EWU’s video? Yes. Love y’all. Thanks, Mile Higher Media! Huge fan here.
@Felecia917
@Felecia917 2 ай бұрын
I don’t like the way you guys suggested that Matt was somehow involved because of how he reacted. He was 16, and in shock. People do weird things while in shock. You literally forgot important information, all sorts of things.
@atbvip
@atbvip 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn’t like that part either. It rubbed me the wrong way to say he might’ve known about it.
@wiilover07
@wiilover07 2 ай бұрын
I'm a massive horror fan and I love the Scream movies I grew up with them but these kids are obviously psychopathic and pure evil. R.I.P to Cassie. 😢
@wiilover07
@wiilover07 2 ай бұрын
@Donny_Double_Dip huh?
@wiilover07
@wiilover07 2 ай бұрын
@Donny_Double_Dip They killed an innocent girl their classmate what are you talking about? 🙄🤨
@wiilover07
@wiilover07 2 ай бұрын
@@Donny_Double_Dip Wtf are you going on about?!
@kimmiepawlak4133
@kimmiepawlak4133 2 ай бұрын
Great to see you guys here today. I kinda thought Josh would be out I'll... Glad your feeling better Josh!
@KerrieKruegner
@KerrieKruegner 2 ай бұрын
It’s not always something dark or neglect or abuse contributing to young people committing violent acts and often appearing in denial but often entitlement and the type of parenting that disallows any repercussions for their actions Excuse them bail them out neither being accountable or letting their child learn to be accountable for their actions Tbis is harder to pin down The parents see themselves as supportive literally they’ll do anything to protect their child Their Vision of supporting the child who is learning no socialisation empathy accountability ethics No moral compass to guide them Charging the parents also more difficult if there’s no neglect Or abuse There’s nothing solid like child physical Sexual assault They’ve clithed fed educated their children Their home May be nice etc I personally am glad the parents are being brought into the picture when youth comity crimes
@revalesq
@revalesq 2 ай бұрын
The family situations are truly deeply disturbing.
@wulfsorenson8859
@wulfsorenson8859 2 ай бұрын
Only people who would commit murder after watching horror movies would be those prone to psychopathy, sadism and anti social personality disorder to begin with. Some people may fantasise about these things but wouldn’t act out irl unless the underlying personality disorder was there.
@jordynjacobson4953
@jordynjacobson4953 2 ай бұрын
I have always been a big fan of lights out. I’m from Idaho. My home town is actually less than an hour away from Poky. I have always wanted someone to do a podcast about this! It’s such a bizarre story!
@swimmingcircles99
@swimmingcircles99 2 ай бұрын
always excited when you guys upload! congratulations on the foundation!! so cool that you guys do stuff like that and genuinely care and want to help people ❤️❤️❤️
@ItCameFromAVlog
@ItCameFromAVlog 2 ай бұрын
Tori's parents in that interview... Wow.... Very shocking. They are all delusional. Brian's approach is the only way to actually move forward and reckon with what you've done. But it's hard work. Meanwhile Tori and his parents are in full denial and delusion.
@NoraG789
@NoraG789 2 ай бұрын
&also it could be down to the company these children at 16 & younger keep to be around and,......I'm not blaming the parents but at 16 in every generation! Should be involved in the child's life. Either sneakily scoop them out or out right be on their back ! At least try fail but try again never give up on your child so they have you a parent to turn to so this doesn't happen¡! But these 2 in this video clearly are sick clearly . I believe anyway she's the best. Bed in heaven with God & her loved ones who went before her in Jesus Name May she forever rest in peace God Amen ❤may God forgive them all involved look after these boys parents as we are all only human & only. Try our best as parents 😢 Amen 🙏
@morganhansen7424
@morganhansen7424 2 ай бұрын
Full first year of Lights out🖤🖤 favorite relaxation, late night drives listening to the boys, can't wait to see what you guys do next year 🖤🖤😍
@jomorph1679
@jomorph1679 2 ай бұрын
Thanks guys! Have a great weekend! 🎉,
@autumngall8085
@autumngall8085 2 ай бұрын
this is one case that genuinely chilled me to my bones. what monsters
@dwarfchron801
@dwarfchron801 2 ай бұрын
Watching the videos of them talking, it is so easy to understand why most people pry just thought "Those weirdo pussies arent gonna do anything." Cringe truly is the best word to describe their conversations.
@susanbrown3988
@susanbrown3988 2 ай бұрын
Love horror films,never wanted to kill anyone
@tracilord4854
@tracilord4854 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@michaelgrimes83
@michaelgrimes83 2 ай бұрын
I was in 10th grade when Columbine happened and there was a kid I talked with and he made a simple statement not a threat, not a plan of action he stated that “they could have done a lot more damage had they planned it right” I said yea I guess. To which he said well think about it if they’d have done A,B & C this way then it would have been much worse. I said yea I guess. I knew what he meant and he wasn’t the type of kid who does those things. Well someone overheard us talking and called us to the office. I didn’t see where he said anything wrong so when they asked what he said I told them, and they asked if I thought he was a threat and I told them I truly didn’t believe he was. Well they didn’t see things that way. They had the police come expelled him from school, had him arrested, and put a no trespassing order on him. I want to say he got like 6 months to a year in juvenile detention just for talking about what happened and how it could have been worse. Granted this was working weeks of the event but still it should have been taken much more serious when kids are actively planning it!!! Just my opinion!! And at 16 they planned and executed an innocent person after committing other crimes, they knew what they were doing and they absolutely deserve to be tried as adults and rot in jail for the rest of their lives!!
@Honeyin2013
@Honeyin2013 2 ай бұрын
It’s gross to me that some people can see what they said as “jokes”. Like it doesn’t matter if it is just a joke something needs to be done about them
@Nobody-s824
@Nobody-s824 2 ай бұрын
I've seen others cover Cassie's case in a gruesome manner but I feel like the LOP guys were respectful.
@kristenhart4984
@kristenhart4984 2 ай бұрын
I heard about this case before from Kendall & Bailey I believe years ago.
@ivyhazelco
@ivyhazelco 2 ай бұрын
From looks at the comments I can confidently say we all agree they deserve life sentences. I don’t feel the boyfriend was involved. Maybe didn’t bring anything up because it was so far from his mind that his “friends” would do that. Would like to know how he is doing now
@Makeeverydayyourbestday
@Makeeverydayyourbestday 2 ай бұрын
One of those guys has real issues. He is more dangerous. It was caught but not dealt with. I believe red flags should go out when kids or teens do that. Listen to what you are hearing. I feel terribly sad for her family. Prayers 🙏
@jesikalynn3882
@jesikalynn3882 2 ай бұрын
RIP Cassie 🙏 💔
@ayyah9607
@ayyah9607 2 ай бұрын
I live in pocatello, people still talk about this case.. Very sad. I hope her family is at peace.
@jill9405
@jill9405 2 ай бұрын
Let them stay in prison; they don’t get to take a life and go home. The parents should be held accountable for what happened. They are 100% liable
@gracethegorgeousgoddess
@gracethegorgeousgoddess 2 ай бұрын
I rarely make it to the premiere! I’m so excited! 😊
@gabrielazamora4562
@gabrielazamora4562 2 ай бұрын
Happy friday❤
@stephineyroberts2476
@stephineyroberts2476 2 ай бұрын
Much love to my favorite guys. Keep up the great work. Love the variety of content. Much love to y'all
@lindsayhatch1199
@lindsayhatch1199 2 ай бұрын
So happy I made it to a premiere
@barbarabell8674
@barbarabell8674 2 ай бұрын
These kids make me sick!
@rhoda3704
@rhoda3704 2 ай бұрын
The conversation of horror/slasher movies causing real crime is very thought provoking. I agree that, at face value to the non-violent person, horror movies are media and entertainment. It’s scary seeing how to these boys, horror and slasher media was their template. It gave them the real ideas to use. I think that horrible dynamic only occurs in people who are pre-disposed to violence or wanting to harm others prior to watching the violent movie. I don’t think a healthy average person sees a slasher movie and that “awakens” something inside them then they go on to kill. Just my thoughts. It’s an interesting conversation. Rest in Peace, Cassie. This is senseless, and she deserves to be here today
@c8a6lvin
@c8a6lvin 2 ай бұрын
The name Austin gave those murderers at 24:37 is the perfect description for them.
@TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal
@TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal 2 ай бұрын
They absolutely need to stay in prison. This isn’t a debatable situation like the Menendez brothers.
@silviasimmons4119
@silviasimmons4119 2 ай бұрын
At 16. You can get a drivers license, you are responsible for driving and following the rules. So yes. They received a just sentence. They both are guilty of taking a innocent life. The victim is dead , and the ripple effect for the family. NO PAROLE keep them in prison doing their life .....
@sierragzk
@sierragzk 2 ай бұрын
the irony of tori’s parents manipulating him to say that he used to be easily manipulated…
@mikeycarli922
@mikeycarli922 2 ай бұрын
This is pretty old. But glad u guys are doing a show on it.
@zarouliaall5390
@zarouliaall5390 2 ай бұрын
Tory didnt even sound like he believed he was innocent, his parents were like "this must be so hard because youre innocent" and hes like "..... yeah.... im innocent... i guess... right...." completely delusional
@emmarazz3304
@emmarazz3304 2 ай бұрын
You can’t change the past but god if only she would have stayed at the boyfriends that night. Those kind of details always break my heart because she just wanted to be responsible and do the right thing
@cheyennestith8614
@cheyennestith8614 2 ай бұрын
So, recently I’ve been asked if watching true crime has changed my personality and I’ve been watching TC since I was young but I think it has made me paranoid hearing how they were in the basement I would’ve called the police I would’ve assumed someone was down there. Does anyone else think they would’ve had a feeling someone was down there?
@kylekooznetsoff
@kylekooznetsoff 2 ай бұрын
Never parole when this severe a crime. Never ever.
@selenamaldonado7704
@selenamaldonado7704 11 күн бұрын
28:30 Calling The Zodiac Killer an amateur is WILD! 🙄🤦‍♀️ smh
@torikent846
@torikent846 Ай бұрын
I work in public school system and you would be surprise what kids are allowed to “take back” after saying.
@kaymarie7427
@kaymarie7427 2 ай бұрын
There was a little Asian kid in my high-school who got bullied pretty bad and he'd always threaten to bomb the school and nobody ever took it seriously, me and my friend group befriended him and stuck up for him all the time. Like actually befriended him, he came to our houses, hung out outside of school etc...anyway he's a professor now. Not sure if us stepping in and protecting him had any impact on the trajectory of his life, but I always like to think it made a difference. This particular case isn't reminiscent of that really, just reminded me of him when talking about school shootings/violence
@moonflower9403
@moonflower9403 2 ай бұрын
Fell asleep 10 min into this and have no idea what it was about (this episode) but just had the most insane nightmares c I’m going Etsy screms
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 2 ай бұрын
The police questioning him after he invoked his Miranda rights stood a chance of getting the whole case tossed out because of a technicality.
@Ratchet299
@Ratchet299 Ай бұрын
They didn’t continue questioning him. They talked to him a little and answered some of _his_ questions, but they didn’t ask HIM anymore questions. I know you watched the Alyssa Bustamante video so that’s probably where you’re getting these ideas about detective overreach, but the situation with that juvenile advocate was completely different.
@TheHEROFamily
@TheHEROFamily 2 ай бұрын
I know that this is a serious situation, but why do they both sound like McLovin?
@primcasiha
@primcasiha Ай бұрын
16 year old is young and naive but old enough to know killing is bad and from the video they cannot fathom that at all. I don't think they deserve to get out just from how brutal the killing was.
@debrawoike2958
@debrawoike2958 2 ай бұрын
Have you seen Ruby Franke discussing her sentencing? In her recorded jail calls, she says that she knows expressing remorse will possibly lighten her sentence, but she falls back on her belief that she is so filled with the Holy Spirit, she obviously could not have done anything wrong and people just don't "understand." Then in the courtroom, she cries and apologizes and thanks the officers of the court that saved her children from her misguided belief system. (Which she privately still holds, but won't admit because then her true lack of remorse would be evident.) This is how I view Bryan and Torey; they revealed their authentic selves in their videos and their actions. Everything else is just an attempt to wiggle out of the consequences.
@c8a6lvin
@c8a6lvin 2 ай бұрын
What are the odds that my two favorite True Crime Podcasts discuss the same killers on the exact same day?
@ivyhazelco
@ivyhazelco 2 ай бұрын
Who is the other one? Always like to see more
@morgancosgrove7459
@morgancosgrove7459 2 ай бұрын
i would like to know too 😊
@BentananeZiad
@BentananeZiad 2 ай бұрын
​@@ivyhazelcothe youtube channel is this is MONSTERS
@c8a6lvin
@c8a6lvin 2 ай бұрын
@@ivyhazelco This is Monsters
@sarapalmer572
@sarapalmer572 2 ай бұрын
Brian sounds scary to me in the clip you showed, honestly. "His kind of behaviour is really common and it's ordinary; I think what makes somebody extraordinary is when they face everything and accept it." So.. he thinks of himself as this extraordinary person? He doesn't sound like someone who has remorse for killing another person.
@Milliesyd
@Milliesyd 2 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment! I think he’s probably very intelligent…which makes him all the more dangerous.
@Shineysculpture1
@Shineysculpture1 Ай бұрын
You should watch the whole documentary with him in it. They don’t say he shows remorse just from that one clip.
@MamaK328
@MamaK328 Ай бұрын
Happy early 35th birthday, Cassie ❤❤
@notjustanotherbrickinthewall
@notjustanotherbrickinthewall Ай бұрын
Listening this from EU, I can’t wrap my head around ever feeling unsafe in school. I am not saying bad stuff doesn’t happen here, we have our fair share of bad people. But such things in school…. Just recently there was school shooting in, I believe Serbia. Bad influence from watching the US. It shook everyone. Nobody could imagine something like this happening around us.
@MeggsterCrayola
@MeggsterCrayola 2 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the videos before of them in the car when I was a little younger. Listening to them again now…i physically feel uncomfortable
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 ай бұрын
These 2 psychos should never, ever get out
@blornblad4381
@blornblad4381 Ай бұрын
What could the school have possibly done to foresee, let alone prevent Cassie’s murder? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Am I missing something here?
@kaylataglieber334
@kaylataglieber334 2 ай бұрын
They were old enough to know not to murder people. They need to stay in prison.
@KerrieKruegner
@KerrieKruegner Ай бұрын
This is life scary life But your child has ghe advantage of growing up with such positive amazing parents Know you’ve given your child this 👍
@kristenhart4984
@kristenhart4984 2 ай бұрын
Tucker ❤ I remember him from the old days! 😻
@6hostii
@6hostii 2 ай бұрын
They clearly didn't know their horror movie history that well considering while driving around filming and discussing their future crimes they mentioned Scream as a fictional characeter. They didn't even know Scream is based on a real serial killer, the Gainsville Ripper. So, perhaps their little movie "obsession" was more of a cover than an actual passion/interest.
@c8a6lvin
@c8a6lvin 2 ай бұрын
41:10 - I heard that horrific 911 call on the This is Monsters episode.
@elenavthorn
@elenavthorn 2 ай бұрын
Matt not telling the police the monsters were there might’ve been him protecting them, because he didn’t believe they could have done it and knew they would be suspects…
@zouz8195
@zouz8195 2 ай бұрын
We can blame these kids all we want but the crew of parents & adults who likely could have prevented this by doing their damn jobs are also to blame. What the fuck dude.
@sammyhatter
@sammyhatter 2 ай бұрын
Josh a family member of a missing 3 year old has been trying to contact Kendall please please tell her to get in contact with Jason Ehler (Dylan ehlers dad) missing from truro Nova Scotia Canada! Really hope you see this!!
@celinakirkham-bm3ym
@celinakirkham-bm3ym 2 ай бұрын
These boys don't even know the philosophy behind the difference of good an evil, a useless crime with no base 😢
@debbiestoyles1141
@debbiestoyles1141 2 ай бұрын
Happy Friday guys
@priskavictoria6458
@priskavictoria6458 2 ай бұрын
“Say it back” 😂😂
@DigUpHerBones85
@DigUpHerBones85 Ай бұрын
I always called this the Scream case
@ThatGirlNamedCandace
@ThatGirlNamedCandace 2 ай бұрын
Josh don’t lie 😉 We know you weren’t here for Halloween and had Zak hosting. lol You guys always have the best costumes!
@TinaWilliamsArt
@TinaWilliamsArt 2 ай бұрын
The dad is such an idiot and didn’t even act shocked. “You’re not going home tonight” ya ya think?
@paulawagner2230
@paulawagner2230 2 ай бұрын
Enough with the "children" b.s., legally yes, but they were grown enough to plot, grown enough to drive...not like 8 year olds did this. Parents these days coddle kids (torie), when kids need discipline, NOT abuse, but discipline. I don't feel bad for them at all, they need to pay the price, although it will never bring Cassie back, or heal her family.
@Despondencymusic
@Despondencymusic 7 күн бұрын
Your prison idea at the end... They actually have that in Norway. And maximum sentences are only 20 years.
@twinzzzzyyyy
@twinzzzzyyyy 2 ай бұрын
Dude there's just no parole or leniency for straight up first degree murder
@NoraG789
@NoraG789 2 ай бұрын
God bless her heart ❤️ May she rest in peace ✨🙏🩷 times like this listening to it we have to remember its living we should be afride of not the dead 💯💫🙏 may god. Give forgive them 😢
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