Why The Internet is OBSESSED with The Sun Eater | Spoiler Free Series Review

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@fernbedek6302
@fernbedek6302 9 ай бұрын
I’m reminded of a show (I forget which one) where a character is telling a story of peril he went through and one of the audience members asked ‘did you die?’.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Haha that's funny
@kbg12ila
@kbg12ila 5 ай бұрын
Haha I can't remember the show but I think the guys replies "Yes, but I LIVED!" 😂
@dada13771
@dada13771 4 ай бұрын
@@kbg12ila That's Ice Age 3.
@radumotrescu3832
@radumotrescu3832 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved the first book, it reminded me a lot of Hyperion Cantos. Boy, I couldn't imagine the books getting better and better, but with each book, I'm amazed at how everything is set up. Regarding the "we know the narrator is alive at the end" aspect, it didn't really take anything away from the anticipation or investment point of view. You KNOW he will live through it, you KNOW how the story ends, what is so harrowing is how he gets there. He literally spoils every major moment for you, really early on, but the prose and story setup is so good that you want to know HOW he gets to that point. I'm nearing book 6 and it really strikes a good balance between some more philosophical books like Hyperion Cantos (which is almost entirely alegory and religion, more difficult to read) and something like Mistborn (very straight forward narrative, action packed, easy to read, easy to grasp).
@chones_
@chones_ 9 ай бұрын
Lorien Aristedes is BY FAR my favorite character. one of the drawbacks of the past tense view point is that we rarely get POVs of tertiary characters.
@Belemrys
@Belemrys 9 ай бұрын
Dregs of the Empire is his pov…so good!
@church348
@church348 6 ай бұрын
@@Belemrys Dregs was such a good story, I love Lorian
@spottheturtle9568
@spottheturtle9568 9 ай бұрын
The first 2 books in this series are free with Audible membership right now. Definitely gonna check these out.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Oh nice!
@sarahbevc2434
@sarahbevc2434 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Your reviews are always so authentic and I'm so happy you talked about this series. I was interested in it, heard some mixed reviews, but was about 80% determined to give it a go. Your video pushed me to a 100%. The covers are also stunning, in my opinion.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I hope you enjoy the series
@uncleanunicorn4571
@uncleanunicorn4571 9 ай бұрын
Just finished the first one, The world building is exceptionally elaborate with vividly rich detail, While also hearkening back to classics like Dune. There is not a lot of hard astrophysics, But the first book touches on evolution and speculative biology in a way few fantasy novels do.
@ladyfox6705
@ladyfox6705 9 ай бұрын
Ohhh I like the sound of that. I must read this series!
@uncleanunicorn4571
@uncleanunicorn4571 9 ай бұрын
@@ladyfox6705 Only if you like really rich world building and Highly exotic aliens.
@ladyfox6705
@ladyfox6705 9 ай бұрын
@@uncleanunicorn4571 yup!
@LeonC0704
@LeonC0704 7 ай бұрын
This was such a nice, well rounded and neutral review. LOVED IT
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@TheMattyNation
@TheMattyNation 9 ай бұрын
“Nothing that will end his life…” Well….. lmao
@ChristianBullock
@ChristianBullock 9 ай бұрын
I liked how Baen books allowed eARC access to anyone. The sixth book was terrific. I generally agree with your opinion. I’m someone that loves both fantasy and science fiction. Big surprise that I like this series :) I also am a huge fan of Kurt Vonnegut, and one of his rules of writing is to start at the end: starting your story as close to the end as possible. This is exactly how Empire of Silence starts; we understand the “end” of this story at the very beginning. But Sun Eater is very much fantasy with a dash of science fiction. For me personally, that is right up my genre interests.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
It was a paid ARC though wasn't it? So more of an early release of the ebook I thought?
@ChristianBullock
@ChristianBullock 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange correct. Paid but I felt worth it as more $$$ went to the author vs. buying from a book front.
@DonovanGG__
@DonovanGG__ Ай бұрын
12:20 but what if the author/narrator was lying??? Maybe unlikely but I feel like it could be a misdirection
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange Ай бұрын
It certainly could be the case. Since I wanted to keep this Spoiler-Free, I tried to avoid speculation
@shadowoflugia
@shadowoflugia 10 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to start this series in a couple weeks! It’s one of my must-start series for 2025.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 10 күн бұрын
I hope enjoy it!
@dalejones4322
@dalejones4322 9 ай бұрын
Great video Rachel. This video helped me to decide to not make this series a priority. I have so many books I want to read that I now like to be able to put some books on hold for a while. I probably have roughly 100 unread books on my shelf now so no need to buy this one just yet. I'll probably read it one day though. Thank you Rachel
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Dale. So glad this was helpful
@Zugzug386
@Zugzug386 3 ай бұрын
I tried this first book months ago and it did not connect with me. But good to know a bit more of the scope of the series will put it back on the TBR for down the road. Thank you 😊
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 3 ай бұрын
Glad this series review was helpful
@DamonSun-hn7cn
@DamonSun-hn7cn 9 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this for a while. Finally!
@PhilipBowenMusic
@PhilipBowenMusic 2 ай бұрын
SO DANG GOOD - currently on book 3
@Octobig
@Octobig 9 ай бұрын
i've been so on the fence about trying this series... i really appreciate your nuanced review! i definitely had a few wrong expectations already (hadrian being morally grey, the scope of the story being larger at the start, the series being more scifi than fantasy, etc.). maybe i'll see if i can pick it up from the library to try it out! 📚
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help with your expectations
@euanfreeman179
@euanfreeman179 9 ай бұрын
This is a series I've been tentatively interested in, but am not sure how much I'd really like. Name of the Wind comparisons make me more cautious, but I've also heard it compared to Book of the New Sun, which is very tempting.
@joshdoe3507
@joshdoe3507 9 ай бұрын
The only real comparison I would make to Name of the Wind is that the story is being told by the main character. Otherwise there aren't any similarities story wise, I've always thought that a weird comparison because its not like Rothfuss invented that narrative framing device. More than any other story I would say its far more influenced by Dune and a bit of BotNS.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
There's lots of different comparisons one could make. I was mostly try to reference the person telling their life story was has been repopularized by Name of the Wind.
@joshdoe3507
@joshdoe3507 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange Rothfuss did definitely make that popular again. I think a lot of people hear that comparison and think of self-insert fairy s** lol. BotNS was likely the main influence on Ruocchio behind that decision in this case. Probably Rothfuss too.
@nflower33
@nflower33 9 ай бұрын
I’m up to date with this series and have enjoyed it so much. The first book was about 3,5 stars but the following books have been very good. I have also listened to the audiobooks and they are so good.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I definitely think the first is the weakest
@moresoysauce5489
@moresoysauce5489 9 ай бұрын
Wow, a book review that is actually helpful! Instant sub!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. I try!
@moresoysauce5489
@moresoysauce5489 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange Great success!
@Knee-JerkReactor
@Knee-JerkReactor Ай бұрын
I have been wondering if I should read this series and your review has convinced me I should. So, thanks very much.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange Ай бұрын
Glad this was helpful
@paulallison6418
@paulallison6418 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ms orange for giving a serious and authentic review of this series. It is always difficult to be objective in this type of review as ultimately it is always very subjective but throwing in as much objectivity as possible in particular voicing your opinion on where this fits within the Science Fiction realm and specifically Space Opera is very helpful for me as a Science Fiction reader pre-dominantantly.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. I know I bring my own biases but I really try to bring in whatever info I feel might be helpful
@PaulRidgeway-h7l
@PaulRidgeway-h7l 3 ай бұрын
Take the “time travel” of 3 body problem, the historical references of Dune, the YA melodrama of Red Rising / Kingkiller, some Lovecraftian / Cronenberg body horror - then write a fantasy story based on “how often do you think about the Roman Empire”… The prose is advanced enough to add some weight to the characters - who even though they live hundreds of years, act like high schoolers. I like it - give it 4 highmatter swords out of 5.
@JohnG225
@JohnG225 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I've yet to read any of the Sun Eater books, but I've been buying them as they are published. I know Jonathan (Words in Time) is a fan (which is a good indicator I'll like them), but interesting to see a lot of fantasy fans picking it up. I got the impression it was sort of Dune meets Star Wars meets Book of the New Sun...but I guess I'll have to see for myself :)
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
The Dune comparison are fair. Not the same plot, but definitely under the same umbrella
@LiamsLyceum
@LiamsLyceum 9 ай бұрын
Good books being noticed as good is a nice thing to see
@SciFiScavenger
@SciFiScavenger 9 ай бұрын
I was a big fan by 100 pages of Empire of Silence, Suneater is right up my alley. Book 3 for me next. Top notch epic space opera. I thought Howling Dark was a little better than EoS, looking forward to the rest of the series. 👍🚀📚👽🎬
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
So glad you're enjoying it
@OnyxSkiesXIX
@OnyxSkiesXIX 9 ай бұрын
I kinda wish I had picked this series up back when I first saw the first book on shelves years ago.
@TheMike28212
@TheMike28212 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. I enjoyed the first book but bounced off book two after around the 200 page mark. After watching this, I'm tempted to pick it up again. ☀🍽
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike
@ozsilversurfer
@ozsilversurfer 6 ай бұрын
Interesting that you were speculating about the resolution of this series.Hope it does not end up like the king killer chronicles where the author writes himself into a corner that he is unable to write himself out of. Really loved those books and am very sad that there appears little hope of a resolution
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 6 ай бұрын
I have a lot more faith in this one getting finished compared to Kingkiller
@kevkeisha
@kevkeisha 9 ай бұрын
The "Red Rising" series by Pierce Brown. THAT'S what the "Sun Eaterz" series reminds me of. I just finished the first novel and I'm halfway through the second. So far so good!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I still need to read Red Rising
@chriswhite2689
@chriswhite2689 9 ай бұрын
Heavily influenced by dune and Book of the new sun.
@eversilv3r
@eversilv3r 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. As someone who is actively watching the hype for this series grow by the day, I was curious to know whether the Sun Eater books might be something that I'd enjoy. This video helped me make a decision (in that - the books may not be my jam, so I'm not going to jump into them just yet) so again, thank you so much!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 8 ай бұрын
So glad this was helpful, even to have you pass on it. I wanted to put out this video because there is a lot of hype out there and I wanted to offer a balanced middle ground
@eversilv3r
@eversilv3r 8 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange mission accomplished! it was indeed the balanced opinion that I needed. I had pretty much decided to skip this series, then I saw another comment comparing this to Hyperion (which i greatly enjoyed) and now I don't know what to think. oh well, guess I'll just listen to the audiobook while I'm doing chores and such.
@BooksByAdrian
@BooksByAdrian 8 ай бұрын
This series has been on my TBR pile for a while now. I need to move it up in the queue!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 8 ай бұрын
I hope enjoy it
@mazzky1093
@mazzky1093 9 ай бұрын
First, I think you might need to do a coffee mug review sometime soon. Looking at you, 'Warmed Over' mug. This was not on my radar but someone else mentioned book 1 & 2 were free on Audible so no risk!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I only have 4 cool mugs. Maybe I could do a short
@BenjaminsBookclub
@BenjaminsBookclub 9 ай бұрын
I have been sleeping on this one, I usually don't like starting series's before they are finished, but this one is getting so much talk and you've finally convinced me to pull the trigger, Ordering book1 now.
@Kaladin0622
@Kaladin0622 9 ай бұрын
Book 7 will be published by next year Christopher Ruocchio is very active with his fans and gives us frequent updates
@BenjaminsBookclub
@BenjaminsBookclub 9 ай бұрын
@@Kaladin0622 I'm adding to cart as we speak
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I think you are safe to start rereading. I definitely trust this series to have a conclusion in the next year or so
@scottb9227
@scottb9227 7 ай бұрын
I'm currently 2/3 of the way through the first book which I started due to all the raves on booktube. But, I can't see myself picking up any of the following books based on what I have read so far. I'm glad to finally see a review that is more similar to how I am feeling while reading book 1. It's not that I dislike it, but I don't love it enough to read another 6 books.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
So glad my review was affirming
@praetorxyn
@praetorxyn 9 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, you can just buy an eARC of Disquiet Gods from Baen for $15, and CR says he gets more out of that sale than he does when you buy a hardcover. Disquiet Gods is amazing, as you no doubt expected.
@maria5988
@maria5988 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate your honest review!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@DefrostedChicken
@DefrostedChicken 9 ай бұрын
Wait, it’s popular enough to say the Internet is obsessed? LET’S GOOOO
@phduffy
@phduffy 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this - based on your discussion, it sounded a bit like Red Rising. Is that accurate?
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I actually haven't read Red Rising (yet!) So I can't say
@joshdoe3507
@joshdoe3507 9 ай бұрын
I've heard a lot of people compare the two but, just my 2 cents, these are vastly different series. I only read the first 2 red rising books but from my experience with them they are were very plot driven, fast paced, and full of action. Sun Eater is much more character driven, slow paced, and philosophical. If somebody had read and enjoyed either of these series and asked me for recommendations the other wouldn't even come to mind for me.
@ArcticWolfe84
@ArcticWolfe84 9 ай бұрын
Hmm, I think I'll give it a go. I've done a lot to expand my reading pool in recent years, but for some reason I've found that sci-fi is what I struggle with the most. Something that rides the line between fantasy and sci-fi might be what I need.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
If you read fantasy, this one will hopefully work for you
@ArcticWolfe84
@ArcticWolfe84 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange I'm definitely a fantasy person first and foremost, so fingers crossed. 🙂
@JasonsWeirdReads
@JasonsWeirdReads 9 ай бұрын
I read the first two books and then stopped. The problem I had wasn’t that I hated it, I just kept wanting it to be science fiction and, like you said, it’s definitely more a fantasy story. So I might pick it up again in the future with that in mind.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it never scratches that sci fi itch for me
@joshdoe3507
@joshdoe3507 9 ай бұрын
This is my favorite ongoing series, and as a fan of both scifi and fantasy I think that blend is really something that pulled me into it. I've been reading more sci-fi the last year or 2 and noticed several series that have more of a fantasy-esque spin to them which is probably where this one is drawing from. Such as Dune, Hyperion, or Book of the New Sun.
@church348
@church348 6 ай бұрын
this series isn't perfect, but damn, about halfway through the first book the brainworms latched in and still have not let go even after powering through the whole series.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 6 ай бұрын
So glad book 1 hooked you! For me, it took a bit longer
@candicebarbata5028
@candicebarbata5028 9 ай бұрын
Love this video and The Sun Eater series!🥰✨
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@ASageCalledQ
@ASageCalledQ 8 ай бұрын
I may check it out. Thanks for the informative vid.
@communicationvast9949
@communicationvast9949 9 ай бұрын
I have this book :) haven't read it yet though, so this is a perfect video to check out
@communicationvast9949
@communicationvast9949 9 ай бұрын
Oh... it's apparently a series lmao. I have Empire of Silence.
@IanKernohan
@IanKernohan 9 ай бұрын
This really piqued my interest - I'm curious tho, is Hadrian the most special guy in the whole universe? Or are there other significant actors that contribute to changing the world/landscape/etc? I'm not so interested in stories where the MC 'happens' to be around for every significant event ever, and has a 1-man role in every major historical event.
@josephiyeke8946
@josephiyeke8946 9 ай бұрын
I’ve not heard about this, will add to the list!
@JLo1701
@JLo1701 9 ай бұрын
Greate video, this is a series that I have wanted to start for a long time. Here's my hot take, books that I enjoy I want to have a hardcover version for my collection, with this series it is financially impossible to do that. I feel that fact is partially responsible for the popularity of the series and the publisher is basically gatekeeping a new printing of hardcovers to continue the demand of by limiting the supply. This is really frustrating when it is known that a new run of Hardcovers would sell and others like me are holding off purchasing any of the novels because this fact.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes the original hardcovers are supported to be so expensive
@cindywingetbooks
@cindywingetbooks 9 ай бұрын
I have the first 4 books but haven't started the series yet. I was initially interested in this book because the whole monster/hero for killing an alien race is very much like Ender Wiggin and i adore the Ender's Game series.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I wouldn't consider it very similar to Ender's Game
@cindywingetbooks
@cindywingetbooks 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange good to know
@Tetsujin-28
@Tetsujin-28 9 ай бұрын
The story sounds interesting , but 7 books! After I finally get to Children of Memory I think I'm done with series books. Plot Armor: I love it. That was the one big problem I had with Tyranny of Faith. Thank you. Great content.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I enjoy long series so the length is one of the bonuses
@CyraNoavek
@CyraNoavek 9 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Speaker for the Dead. I like first person past tense narration when done well. I like it best when it is clear the context the story is being told in. Thanks for your review. I am not really so interested in Fantasy though, so I may pass on this.
@IFarore
@IFarore 9 ай бұрын
I felt the same way about the first book, and I’m currently working through the second one. It’s an interesting story, for sure, it just isn’t resonating with me as much as I thought it might. Still a great series thus far, and I intend to complete it
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully picks up for you
@BobbyHall-eu1xv
@BobbyHall-eu1xv 9 ай бұрын
I'm over half way through Empire Of Silence and...I'm very conflicted about it; it is very well written, although I wouldn't say the prose is anything that could be raved about like a Gene Wolfe or Guy Gabriel Kay, its good for what he is doing. I understand Ruocchio is painting on a huge canvas and building a saga but I'm finding it a little boring at the moment - there isn't a great deal of action although Hadrian's journey has been interesting at points and Hadrian as a character isn't especially likeable but I guess that is by design and he will grow through the series. At this point I'm hoping that the last half of the book builds to something otherwise I probably won't continue the series. I have literally only seen one booktuber that doesn't love this and I'm glad you gave a balanced review.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad I could offer a more balanced perspective. I agree that everyone else seems to blindly love it
@ubxs113
@ubxs113 9 ай бұрын
It’s already on my TBR!
@nmal8702
@nmal8702 7 ай бұрын
I will automatically subscribe to anyone that sheds like to my favorite series of all time, aka the Sun Eater series!
@stormy7722
@stormy7722 6 ай бұрын
Is it popular because content providers see that other content providers have large 'click" numbers so they, in turn, jump on the zeitgeist train so they get clicks as well?
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 6 ай бұрын
I hope not. I just just reread 6 books over 500 pages. There are definitely easier videos to film for content
@cade4746
@cade4746 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the vid Rachel, i know you are a fan of audiobooks like myself, i want to know if you consider this saga be better consumed in audio format or in physical, im asking because i see there are a lot of names (planets,locations,characters etc) and maybe in audio one can get a little lost, idk, i want to knwo your perspective and how do you take this "problem" i guess, thanks for reading
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
I do consume lots of audiobooks but I actually prefer to read this series. I've started multiple books in this series on audio but I always end switching to reading with my eyes because I find it hard to focus on the narration
@acueto7
@acueto7 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t read it yet but I’m very interested!
@BookishDaddy
@BookishDaddy 9 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to read this series! Awesome content
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I hope you enjoy it
@BookishDaddy
@BookishDaddy 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange thank you! I’m sure I will
@TheMattyNation
@TheMattyNation 9 ай бұрын
CHRISTOPHER, LETS F*CKING GOOOOO!!!!
@epiphoney
@epiphoney 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious about it, but I'm not sure of the length.
@BKPrice
@BKPrice 9 ай бұрын
"If the narrator is alive at the end of the story, you know that nothing will happen to him [to end his life]." I have a series I'm working on that defies that notion.
@samfowler2073
@samfowler2073 9 ай бұрын
You see I was thinking about picking this up, but then comparing it to Rothfuss's work makes me fear the author will burn out and be either unable or unwilling to stick the landing.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Oh no he's definitely going to finish it. He's been consistently putting out books and should have the last book out in the next year or so. The comparison is only related to the narrative style
@offworlder4694
@offworlder4694 9 ай бұрын
He's literally written more than 3 times what Rothfuss has written in half the time you have been waiting for Doors of Stone.
@igorruste1187
@igorruste1187 9 ай бұрын
Halfway through disquiet gods, the series has its issues the author can sometime be guilty of overzealously alluding to other book series but i really enjoy the development of hadrian.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 8 ай бұрын
I look forward to diving into it
@aleidadiaz2261
@aleidadiaz2261 9 ай бұрын
Dune is like that. Technically it’s a sci-fi setting, but it’s a fantasy plot with the court politics and ‘the one’ narrative.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@ReadingIDEAS.-uz9xk
@ReadingIDEAS.-uz9xk 9 ай бұрын
I hope it's a great read. Best wishes.
@Lisa-Azra_Broad
@Lisa-Azra_Broad 9 ай бұрын
I thought the first book was the best in my opinion as it left the motive of the aliens unknown. where the others all have a similar theme. I did like Bk 4 Kingdoms of Death which there was a great focus on the Aliens although the author missed the opportunity to add some, not compassion but some reason for the readers to have a degree of understanding of their motivation and actions other than food and control and question the final ending. I listened to all on audio book and the narrator is very good
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate you weighing in. I've mostly read the books so I do want to reread next time via the audios
@LazyCurmudgeon
@LazyCurmudgeon 9 ай бұрын
I can probably name the 3 BookTubers you were referring to but not referring to ... That was not why I wanted to comment though, just funny. What I really wanted to say was more about your statements regarding Hadrian being a bit of a generic main character. Not that this is a failure, or critically negative, in my eyes. It's very obvious that almost everything Hadrian does is telegraphed from the very onset of the narrative - giving the reader a hint (more than a hint) about what's happening later on. Maybe this is why the character doesn't grow, because you're getting him from later/then and now/before ... depending on your perspective. This can work though, because Ruocchio develops a MASSIVE and well established universe AROUND Hadrian which is where the story shines. The secondary characters jump off the page as Hadrian tells his story, because they are what drives him to do what he does, or hinder him from doing what he thinks he needs to (or both! Hail Caesar?) I do love some of the hard sci-fi aspects in later books (agree, lacking in the first) as they tie into the story unobtrusively. And who's to say that a main character needs to be the most interesting? Just because he's telling the story? I've read the story of Wei Shi Lindon Arelius and for sure, he's a character that the story develops around, while he does his thing moving forward.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I avidly watch all three of those fantasy booktubers so I definitely meant no shade. And I appreciate your pushback on my criticism of his character. I believe an author can still create a more interesting character with those narrative choices but your counterpoint are quite compelling
@loganhanna7061
@loganhanna7061 9 ай бұрын
If you enjoyed this series, ya gotta read the Red Rising saga!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Might be the perfect opportunity for another series review
@loganhanna7061
@loganhanna7061 9 ай бұрын
@TheShadesofOrange I would love that! The first book can come across a bit YA, but it hits its stride in the 2nd and gets better with each installment. Its full on grimdark by the 3rd and 4th books. You can REALLY see the authors growth as a writer as the series goes on.
@JohnAndrewMacDonald
@JohnAndrewMacDonald 6 ай бұрын
Please don't ignore the novellas and short stories. Especially the novellas.
@sirvazo1633
@sirvazo1633 3 ай бұрын
Liked the 1st book but dnf the 2nd (stopped at about 500 pages in). Found it too bloated and not enough happening to keep me interested.
@katharynbaker5592
@katharynbaker5592 9 ай бұрын
Love series review content! 🚀❓🐉
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm hoping to do these videos more frequently
@kevins4254
@kevins4254 7 ай бұрын
I finished Empire of Silence a few days ago. I gave it 2 stars on Goodreads. It is without a doubt one of the most overrated books I've ever read. The first 600 pages is extremely slow and could have been condensed to about 100 pages. I can certainly see the series getting better but that first book is brutal. The author had some repetitive tendencies that drove me nuts. For example, when he has a character speaking, he'll start a paragraph with the first sentence or two of the characters words (quotation), then several sentences of largely unnecessary information, and then he gives the last sentence or two of the quote at the end of the paragraph. There were several times I got to the end of a paragraph and had completely forgotten what was said at the beginning. I had to glance back at the beginning of the quote to put together what was being said. Ugh. I'll probably continue the series but I'm not rushing to the bookstore to buy Book #2.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
It was fun to see how to evolves but given your impressions of book one, I wouldn't be rushing you to continue. The series gets stronger but some of the writing ticks won't go away
@AB-ud1hi
@AB-ud1hi 8 ай бұрын
I liked first three. The fourth is a wordy circle parade of nothing. It read like it had to meet a deadline.
@JohnSmith-x8s5g
@JohnSmith-x8s5g 9 ай бұрын
Are you saying old people go on and on too long ? No way !
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
😄
@obiwazz6929
@obiwazz6929 9 ай бұрын
You are talking very fast here. And editing out pauses? Not sure what the current trend towards that is all about. I much prefer your slower paced videos! But still loving you and your channel.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about trends but I had only 15 minutes to film this so the fast talking was because I was literally rushed
@GandalfsHorse84
@GandalfsHorse84 7 ай бұрын
I couldn’t finish book one. It felt too much like Dune (like some things were so much like Dune that it felt like plagiarism), and the prose that everyone seems to enjoy felt forced, overworked, and pretentious. I love prose. I am a huge fan of Guy Gavriel Kay because of his beautiful prose. But GGK feels natural. Sun Eater felt too forced. Just my two cents. I think it’s great that a space opera story is finding an audience. Every success lifts the genre!
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын
Totally get what your saying. I think the prose gets better in the later books but it probably isn't worth pushing through if you're already not liking it. The writing never challenges people like GGK
@izabelakujawska5245
@izabelakujawska5245 9 ай бұрын
I havea rally big problem with Hadrian. He starts as a rich, priviledged brat, self-righteous, and annoying. He then evolves and becomes... even more obnoxious, less empathetic and more selfish and judgemental. Thought I missed something because of the translation, but it was not it. I hate hadrian, would not want to interactive with such a person in and way. Also this books made me realise, that i do not like first person narration.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I love your hot take. I don't Hate him like you do but I don't love him the way other readers do
@გიორგიგელაძე-მ4ნ
@გიორგიგელაძე-მ4ნ 9 ай бұрын
Only reason you would say that hadrian is plain and not complex is that you where reading only what he was saying not what he was doing and how hes actions might appear from other perspective hadrian is not unreliable narrator in traditional sense but perspective still matters
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the narrative choice just doesn't lend itself to himself feeling complex and mysterious
@briankregg6329
@briankregg6329 9 ай бұрын
Obsessed with your beauty!!
@dougperry691
@dougperry691 9 ай бұрын
Going from book of the new sun to sun eater right after left me pretty unimpressed with book one after all of the hype. The obvious inspiration doesn’t detract at all as I love the premise and narrative structure but just found the prose average and character work clunky with the interactions and dialogue between characters feeling very cliched and tired. I will continue with book two but just finding all these recent buzz sci fi series poorer imitations of works from the last few decades.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I've heard people compare Sun Eater to Book of the New Sun but I feel it pales in comparison
@roanokebrooks
@roanokebrooks 9 ай бұрын
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@Maeve_Ever_Books
@Maeve_Ever_Books 9 ай бұрын
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@socaltoobie8984
@socaltoobie8984 9 ай бұрын
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@zubaerchaudhari8267
@zubaerchaudhari8267 9 ай бұрын
Hello there hey there hey Hello hi there there there 😊
@jklol1680
@jklol1680 9 ай бұрын
@jeffergallego
@jeffergallego 9 ай бұрын
I hated Empire of Silence. I don't understand the hype. Currently in a slump thanks to it.
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Sorry your in a slump
@StalxD
@StalxD 9 ай бұрын
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@Selinalinaly
@Selinalinaly 9 ай бұрын
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@epone3488
@epone3488 9 ай бұрын
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@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
I really feel like it's a sci fi book not written for a traditional sci fi audience
@epone3488
@epone3488 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange Yes I think your right. I do enjoy a good fantasy romp like John Gwynns Shadow of the Gods et al that was amazing imo. Or Sam Sykes Seven blades really flavorful. Im on a Cyberpunk kick right now enjoying Necrotech: SINless, series by K C Alexander yet generally Im into stuff like Blindsight with big ideas and transhuman questions. So i think your right its just not totally for the deep scifi crowd. After what you mentioned I'm going to get it another go and see if book two can loop me in.
@cmmosher8035
@cmmosher8035 9 ай бұрын
I may just dislike unreliable narrators who are braggarts telling the grand Adventure but i found myself really unimpressed by both Sun Eater and Kingkiller.
@IzzyZil20
@IzzyZil20 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, you must just hate that story telling device
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree that the format might not be for you. The narrative choice leads to a character who seems very full of themselves
@cmmosher8035
@cmmosher8035 9 ай бұрын
@@TheShadesofOrange lol. I actually like the concept. My issues with Empire of Silence was the constant changing of setting and new side characters made it really hard to invest in the story and by the time we got to gladiator stuff I was checked out.
@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd
@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd 9 ай бұрын
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@surrealsoupuniverse
@surrealsoupuniverse 9 ай бұрын
It was kinda boring, and seemed like a rip off of books from several other series
@jeroenadmiraal8714
@jeroenadmiraal8714 9 ай бұрын
I'm halfway through book two, and I think Hadrian is a buffoon, an idiot who fancies himself a poet. I find him a bit tiring and pompous, but I am enjoying the series.
@გიორგიგელაძე-მ4ნ
@გიორგიგელაძე-მ4ნ 9 ай бұрын
for majority of modern audience everyone who does not narrate their own story like they ar writing grocery list are pompous
@TheShadesofOrange
@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it's part of why I compared it to Name of the Wind. It's hard to write that narrative perspective without the character coming across as boastful
@MsTaffylou
@MsTaffylou 9 ай бұрын
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