Nice review! I always find it dissapointing when manufacturers add graphing capability to instruments and then provide little or no means to scale and label it.
@phenyl223 жыл бұрын
They don't have multitouch zoom capability? That would be the easiest, albeit imprecise method.
@benbaselet20263 жыл бұрын
Gotta leave some options unchecked on the software for the more expensive model I guess.
@Obladgolated3 жыл бұрын
Russian proverb: "The marvel is not that the bear dances well, but that the bear dances at all."
@unprintable4693 жыл бұрын
A more detailed teardown à la EEVBlog would be awesome! Has Rohde & Schwarz forgotten about you? :(
@samfedorka56293 жыл бұрын
With 0.02% voltage and 0.025% current readback accuracy, I was going to question the utility of the last 2.5 digits, but after watching your video, I see how helpful it really is.
@KostantisX3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Shahriar. Excellent review, as always!
@Jonas_Meyer3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful SMU by Rohde und Schwarz. Would love to see a teardown on the RTO2000 too.
@handyman71473 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Great instrument. The rear panel Connections look like an afterthought.
@Gengh133 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that the cat is not included with the SMU, it must be purchased separately.
@andymouse3 жыл бұрын
Nice review and a nice instrument....cheers.
@LiraLab3 жыл бұрын
That's an amazing review. The fast scale auto-ranging is something on this instrument. I've experienced some difficulties in measuring current consumption of some IoT devices. The deep sleep current consumption starts around 3 uA and then it wakes up to around 10mA in stand-by mode and then goes right into 180mA when transmitting an RF signal, before it goes into deep sleep again. Using a Keithley SMU, I had to put it manually to the 1A scale, otherwise the device would turn off when the SMU was auto-ranging. Another solution to measure this current was to use a 6 1/2 digit bench multimeter, but then I couldn't caracterize well the DC behavior of the device. I wonder if R&S is releasing some units focusing on very low current measurements with triax connectors.
@moshet8423 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video of RF cables? There is so much confusion in forums and other videos. There was a nice video you made on RF components that included different styles of connectors for specific purposes. Something similar to that but for cables would be great.
@Thesignalpath3 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@copernicofelinis3 жыл бұрын
Someone should tell the Google subtitle generator (the one that automatically kicks in on thumb view, at least) that "Rhodes and Schwartz" is not "Rodent Shores".
Does this unit temporarily shut off when switching current ranges? Every SMU I have used shuts down temporarily when switching current ranges in auto range mode. If it is biasing a depletion mode FET gate that device will crater when the gate is open. Thus I am forced to use a fixed current range that encompasses the largest gate current I expect to see. The switching in SMU and DVMs occurs because the series current sampling resistor is changed. I am hoping for an SMU that does the sampling resistor switching in a make before break fashion instead of temporarily disconnecting. If this had that capability I would order some immediately. The six figure measurements make running on a fixed range a bit more tolerable, but seamless range switching would be better. This unit in your video appears to be limited to 20V. For testing I would like a unit that can to up to 60V at several Amps. Do you know if R&S is planing on any higher voltage/power models?
@kevina.40363 жыл бұрын
Quality design and construction to be expected from Rhode and Schwarz. Hopefully future firmware updates will improve the graphing functionality. Unfortunately I've found their customer service to be pretty unaccomodating towards non-enterprise users. Also, as far as value, I find it difficult to argue that this R&S is a better value than current Keithly or Keysight boxes..
@sebastian_harnisch3 жыл бұрын
I had a very different experience. Wanted to do a firmware upgrade on my HMP 2030 (a long time after warranty), ran into some issues with USB (pretty poor instructions tbh), but after a few mails we found the problem. I was positively surprised that R&S took the time for a rather old device - non-enterprise too. I'm from Germany, so it could simplify things a bit, who knows.
@sheffieldhoney3 жыл бұрын
We use the NGM202 and it has the same graph limitations, we have begged R&S for improvements to the graph side and access to logging data without having to export.
@mc_cpu3 жыл бұрын
Does the fan have a filter for the cat hair? 😄
@paulpaulzadeh61723 жыл бұрын
I like Tektronix color on it !
@IanScottJohnston3 жыл бұрын
Farnell selling for 5000+VAT (UKP), sounds expensive but I guess it's about right in comparitive terms given it's spec, brand name and target market. I also like how the rear panel has all the options including good old GPIB. Can't wait for the teardown.
@samfedorka56293 жыл бұрын
Tequipment (USA) has them for $7200-$9500 (I'm amazed at how much the DVM option costs on the 201), but the 401-COM is on sale for $5000 which is pretty good imo
@Chris_Grossman3 жыл бұрын
It is $4995 in the USA from Newark (Farnell). The equivalent (and not quite as nice Keithley/Tektronix model is $11K.
@benmodel57453 жыл бұрын
Nice instrument, but without the ability to plot better it would be hard to choose this over the Keithley 2400, not that I can afford either : P
@krish2nasa3 жыл бұрын
Informative. What is its current range change behavior? Thank you very much.
@peteabc13 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple nerd. I see 7 digits, I hit like.
@paulpaulzadeh61723 жыл бұрын
Shahriar , can you make curve tracer with two such SMU like Keithley that you did before ??
@юрийсергованцев-ь2у9 ай бұрын
Шикарный блок питания.
@bakagaijin74523 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how the feedback loop is implemented by R&S and how it stands against NIs 1.8Ms/s SMUs
@hullinstruments2 жыл бұрын
Long time fan of your channel. It would be awesome if you tackled a DIY or budget option source measure unit one day.
@Richard.Andersson3 жыл бұрын
The biggest downside of this instrument seems to be the low force-to-source voltage drop of only 2 V. At least I think it is only 2 V because they obscure this specification in the manual by calling it "Maximum sense compensation" which is not obvious what it means. So for a typical 4-wire resistance measurement on a substrate/material (without metallic leads) you can only test up to 6 V maximum (2V over each section of the sample), and not use the full 20 V range. In reality you also have contact resistance making it even worse! Keithleys SMUs allow for 5 V drop between force and sense, but if you exceed this value you do not get a warning and you only start getting incorrect measurements. This has caused many issues in our lab! Does this instrument at least give you a warning if the voltage drop between force and sense is more than 2 V?
@douro203 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's running RTLinux?
@johndavis14653 жыл бұрын
Can to review / test Elektor LCR Meter 2MHz
@DavidMG993 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@evilsdexter52613 жыл бұрын
In Europe they used to have those stupid brittle stickers that said warranty void if removed. Even if you didn't want to open the case, you could accidentally damage that stupid sticker...
@indahooddererste3 жыл бұрын
well several nvidia GFX cards have it too. So basicly putting a custom cooler on it will remove warranty.
@dwintechnology-fiona49202 жыл бұрын
we are lcd manufacturer, if can we put some short video on your channel, we can pay
@tamaseduard51453 жыл бұрын
👍🙏🙏🙏👍
@tejeshwvardhan11653 жыл бұрын
design one SMU on this channel!
@paulpaulzadeh61723 жыл бұрын
I have both SMU KEITHLEY 2450 and 2461 with kickstar software , measure a lot to match transistor. Performance from KEITHLEY is much better . They done this for 40 years.
@unprintable4693 жыл бұрын
But really, these soldered output wires are just awful... Saving cost for proper connectors, or have they forgotten about that while designing the PCB?!
@frosty1293 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for the release of Marco Rep’s OSMU.
@billpeiman89733 жыл бұрын
US$5k at Newark.
@plugplagiate15643 жыл бұрын
did not know, that a psu can be so complicated.
@arashghasemi3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused... Why should we pay so much to devices like this when a cheap power supply plus a good voltage stabilizer can do the job?? What am I missing here??
@arashghasemi3 жыл бұрын
I mean adjustable voltage regulator ic
@bakagaijin74523 жыл бұрын
@@arashghasemi 4 quadrant operation along with VSIM/ISVM capability?
@arashghasemi3 жыл бұрын
@@bakagaijin7452 there are negative regulators too ... what do you mean by vsim isvm???
@martinmckee53333 жыл бұрын
@@arashghasemi Most power supplies are a one quadrant instrument. A programmable load is a one quadrant instrument. An SMU, of this sort is four quadrant. It can source and sink on positive and negative rails. For some tests a power supply and DMM is enough, but they are in no way equivalent to an SMU. Not to mention, the accuracy specs of most SMUs are better than the average power supply or handheld DMM.
@arashghasemi3 жыл бұрын
@@martinmckee5333 I believe you guys are correct. But I can't understand the need. If we wire a transformer to get both + and negative rails and then use heavy filtering and appropriate precision regulators on both rails then can't we do four quadrants with some acceptable precision?? at least for designing circuits like opamps ???
@hullinstruments2 жыл бұрын
Long time fan of your channel. It would be awesome if you tackled a DIY or budget option source measure unit one day.