What's happened to Ferrari?

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TheSketchMonkey

TheSketchMonkey

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@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES 3 жыл бұрын
his criticism started making sense when he showed that main straight line, he is right Ferrari is the elegant and curvy one, Lambo is the aggresive angy boi
@abuabdullah8024
@abuabdullah8024 3 жыл бұрын
fax
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 2 жыл бұрын
Complette oposites
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidaaliten8817 wym?
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES 2 жыл бұрын
​@Diogo omg the comparison is perfect
@ctr289
@ctr289 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fed up with these commentators obsessed with line correspondence. Lines can just exist by themselves, they don't always need connections between them
@aldrichuyliong8143
@aldrichuyliong8143 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can blame Ferrari for this. Based on the press kit the client was heavily involved during every step of the design process. That sounds like code that Centro Stile had to bend to the client's every whim and I'm sure said client gave them several million reasons to do so.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think this looks like a “proper” Ferrari grand tourer because of the gtc chassis minus the shooting break design
@ThomasPerezGhost
@ThomasPerezGhost 2 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 of design is never submit something you wouldn't want your name on.
@TheCarKrazeOfficial
@TheCarKrazeOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
The front looks like if the new brz got angry
@252tward
@252tward 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me that realized that
@michaelgakanga
@michaelgakanga 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's a BR20...
@D_D_L
@D_D_L 3 жыл бұрын
He did showed the BRZ for a split second🤣
@TheCarKrazeOfficial
@TheCarKrazeOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@D_D_L yeah I saw that when I was watching 😂
@TheCarKrazeOfficial
@TheCarKrazeOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgakanga haha true
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw 3 жыл бұрын
The car isn't for Ferrari it is a custom one off for a client and in the end the client is always right and he signed off on the design. I think it is stunning looking !
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker 3 жыл бұрын
You are right.the client from what I understand was heavily involved in the design and you might say it shows.for good or bad
@buioso
@buioso 3 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot
@Thesketchmonkey
@Thesketchmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
"The client is always right" can most definitely be applied to a wedding cake design, not a Ferrari
@forange_9271
@forange_9271 3 жыл бұрын
Its the same as if I asked lamborghini to build a 1 of 1 car for me that has a lack of line flow, two round headlights at each side and also I want it to be a truck. Im the client here don’t discuss with me im always right …
@stephanvelines7006
@stephanvelines7006 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thesketchmonkey agreed. I would even suggest that they need to bring Pininfarina back. No offence to the in-house design bureau, but sometimes you need to seek outside inspiration.
@marciliojunior4919
@marciliojunior4919 3 жыл бұрын
This is a one off car is the client who determines how it will look like. This does not reflect ferraris current design language.
@D_D_L
@D_D_L 3 жыл бұрын
AKA the client has no taste in cars (pain
@guy_with_no_name7317
@guy_with_no_name7317 3 жыл бұрын
“taste” is completely subjective, personally I don’t mind the car
@8ball576
@8ball576 3 жыл бұрын
@@D_D_L umm no people have different tastes.
@D_D_L
@D_D_L 3 жыл бұрын
@@8ball576 Then let me ask you a question, does this looks Ferrari enough to you? There are universal standards on what taste you should have, and how you taste.
@N7Sound
@N7Sound 3 жыл бұрын
The 458 is a mesmerising masterpiece which gets better and better in time. The car is almost 12 years old and looks as if it was produced yesterday.
@ChaosqueenMaddy
@ChaosqueenMaddy 2 жыл бұрын
The 458 was the last truly good looking Ferrari
@JV8901
@JV8901 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ferrari did that “one-of”, custom, specifically made for a particular someone, just because that particular someone paid. So, they made it.
@wainercoppini7623
@wainercoppini7623 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone got it. It is a one off so they designed it for a customer
@8ball576
@8ball576 3 жыл бұрын
@@wainercoppini7623 people seem to not understand that people have different tastes and I like the way it looks
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker 3 жыл бұрын
The front end redo was like you being underwater and then coming up to the surface.that much of a difference in being able to breathe
@edwardsong9085
@edwardsong9085 3 жыл бұрын
13:12 I knew it. The first time I saw it I saw Subaru. Even the name “BR20” sounds like Subaru 😂
@Regan_Tatham
@Regan_Tatham 3 жыл бұрын
i think the f40 was peak Ferrari its so simple yet so distinctive and beautiful
@exoticdriver84
@exoticdriver84 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the costumer who was making his one off with Ferrari was a first year student/beginner who didn't really had a lot of understanding of a Ferrari design language.
@spazz27
@spazz27 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely understand the logic behind the critique… but after seeing the redesign I’d say it was clear it’s focus was more rear-viewing than progressive/forward viewing… I think the “over designed” elements are no where near Lamborghini like (thankfully), but laying the seeds for future design instead… not all of it, but specifically how they treated the rear intake and the superimposition of shapes in the front fascia… it’s almost as if Ferrari is asking which way to point… I too, prefer the 296/Roma direction, but I also love that rear 3/4 view of this one-off, which is what would be my take away for future designs… lets see… it is all in fun, I wish my problem included having to look at this car in my garage every day, but as I say, let’s see what happens next! …another great video as always!
@shashankreddy6843
@shashankreddy6843 3 жыл бұрын
hay... lambos are not over designed they are just angular shapes. if you look at the aventador, they just have there signature lines and nothing extra, and the svj is way more aggressive but just has aero changes to support the ALA system
@SY-tn2io
@SY-tn2io 3 жыл бұрын
BMW and Ferrari seems to have lost their design identity, a real shame.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 2 жыл бұрын
One of worst thing that can happen to a brand is loosing its identity
@rks-bh6tb
@rks-bh6tb 2 жыл бұрын
but one still looks good
@Abisanth11
@Abisanth11 3 жыл бұрын
6:25 I think the last Pininfarina designed Ferrari was the F12
@VaunShiz
@VaunShiz 3 жыл бұрын
Nope that's a in house design , but thank God 18 people liked the comment xD
@s.z.x.01
@s.z.x.01 3 жыл бұрын
This car resembles the relationship between Ferrari and Lambo, both great brands, but just don’t work together. I definitely like the redesign, that simplicity is such a drastic improvement to the aesthetics
@ethanol1586
@ethanol1586 3 жыл бұрын
Bring back Pininfarina
@vietthanhnguyen1227
@vietthanhnguyen1227 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old elegant Ferrari, but maybe it isn't attractive to new buyers anymore since every manufacturers just make car aggressive and angrier looking, so they stopped.
@faustinoeldelbarrio8967
@faustinoeldelbarrio8967 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how can I find the video with the freehand sketches from 12:27?
@creekfreak1997
@creekfreak1997 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching your videos for a while now, and this is a fantastic breakdown! As just a car enthusiast, I was first impressed when I saw the BR20, but then when I watched your examination, it started to make sense to me where things were contradicting each other and "getting lost". I love all these videos, you really are a great teacher when it comes to viewing automotive design more objectively, making every one of your viewers a little more knowledgeable! Can't wait for the next one!
@OscarDeCicco
@OscarDeCicco 3 жыл бұрын
Modern days Ferraris after the 458 (perfection) have been just a downfall in terms of design IMO, only exceptions being the J50 (maybe a little too sharp), the Roma (even though it's too AM-esque) and the 296GTB (a few wrong choices but an overall nice flow).
@SoI_Badguy
@SoI_Badguy 3 жыл бұрын
I quite like the look of the 812...
@vitamc1213
@vitamc1213 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the front of the 296GTB, but the rear is where it messes up. Pininfarina was no longer as involved after the Ferrari F12, and you can really tell. The F12 was also a good looking car.
@justanotherguywithoutamous5788
@justanotherguywithoutamous5788 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has a problem with every design . SMH can’t please him ever. He’s just better than all those designers.
@joelness
@joelness 3 жыл бұрын
That's because there *are* problems with every design. This one in particular is kind of a mess. I can't say he's better since he's not designing to any production standards, but his points are usually valid.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 3 жыл бұрын
@@joelness not exactly, I don’t get that “feeling” of “overwhelmingness” when I look at this design. If anything I think this looks like a proper Ferrari grand tourer
@nade5557
@nade5557 2 жыл бұрын
Because most of the time he's right. I don't know why but new cars seem to completely miss when it comes to proportions, flow, patterns etc. and it seems like designers are doing too much with sharp angles or random lines. Look up any list of the best looking cars and you would be hard pressed to find any made in the past 10 years
@mmmmosaic
@mmmmosaic 3 жыл бұрын
Your re-do is simply amazing. You only extended the front lip spoiler on one side though :p
@STEF005R
@STEF005R 3 жыл бұрын
Lost is the word .. Some good ideas if taken separately but still already passed for more of them. Put together, my eyes are in pain, even more knowing it's a Ferrari. Front is like a messed up F12. The 550, I'm in love ^^ Cool analysis!
@MikePruszkowski
@MikePruszkowski 3 жыл бұрын
The redesign looks so good! Nice man
@MalcomHeavy
@MalcomHeavy 3 жыл бұрын
I actually find the original design very nice and beautiful. I think it's elegant and well proportioned. Yes, it's a bit more graphically active than a lot of other current Ferarris, but it doesn't make this a bad design.
@AlexSami-qw4qu
@AlexSami-qw4qu 3 жыл бұрын
The shot of the Subaru was perfect.
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 3 жыл бұрын
5:07 Even the cat understood the simple lines and elegance.
@fizzcarreviews7997
@fizzcarreviews7997 3 жыл бұрын
Your nostalgia got in the way. That’s what happened
@gumowy15
@gumowy15 3 жыл бұрын
Me: wow, this car looks pretty good Sketch Monkey: this is a bad design Me: yeah, is ugly AF
@webagent90
@webagent90 3 жыл бұрын
That one off crap is just a F12 with a new bodykit.
@michaillohdalpetersen3177
@michaillohdalpetersen3177 3 жыл бұрын
wich program are you using
@exoticdriver84
@exoticdriver84 3 жыл бұрын
The Criticism on Ferrari RB20 was perfect and very well explained. This was like a car design teacher's lesson.
@Mgn-1
@Mgn-1 3 жыл бұрын
‘A proyect from a first year first semester student’ that was harsh, I was 🤭, the back end isn’t that bad but yeah the front is a mix of Toyota, Audi and Ferrari design languages blended together, and comparing it to Roz from Monsters Inc… You were truly outraged haha
@valentinilie1560
@valentinilie1560 3 жыл бұрын
Ferrari Portofino M is the most beautiful model of the last years. Ferrari fail with the design of last models. Lamborghini are smart, few models and good looking cars.
@digiNanok
@digiNanok 3 жыл бұрын
That side view looks like a modern Marcos Mantis M70 hahahah
@A63-k8f
@A63-k8f 3 жыл бұрын
Your redesign is just so awesome man
@michaelgakanga
@michaelgakanga 3 жыл бұрын
When Ferrari looks at a BRZ and goes "hmm". Gimme 3 months
@mihirbhat6741
@mihirbhat6741 2 жыл бұрын
I felt this when I saw the 812 and searched for this video. When you look at Ferrari's past, you realise that the ferrari designers of today are pretty confused.
@jasongarey8329
@jasongarey8329 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is it was designed "by committee." That's the surest way to foul things up.
@DeltaShadow-no9to
@DeltaShadow-no9to 3 жыл бұрын
For one-off it is acceptable to break the rules. It must stay in history. Something like "remember that angry Ferrari of 2021?". Retro styling of 2003 NFS Underground is okay for me. Just for one-off. Just to be special. Like Ferrari FX for Brunei Sultan - that was not made in Ferrari design language but rested special and unique.
@daftpunkin5912
@daftpunkin5912 2 жыл бұрын
The front of this car looks like a frs lol
@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer
@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer 3 жыл бұрын
And really the Roma is super beautiful from the back and side profiles until you rotate it to the front, and my god the front of the Roma is SUPER ATROCIOUS to put it lightly! The shape and spacing of those headlights along with that awful looking grill are just frustratingly terrible. The car is really amazing until you view the front graphics and they just kill the desire to chase a Roma.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, love your opinions on every vehicle you assess. Well done!
@muhammadfirmansyahdwiputra
@muhammadfirmansyahdwiputra 3 жыл бұрын
from this channel i learn more about design of the car the curve, body line, shave of the car and that was important thing to make it seamless and connect every single line and shape
@fenrirslip
@fenrirslip 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly like the design of the BR20 and the redesign is also really cool as well. I've come to notice that when Ferrari does one off cars, the design is based on the customer's vision of what they want the car to look like and over the years a lot of these one offs have a rather aggressive design like the Ferrari P80/C. Yes I know that car is meant to be a track machine as it's not road legal, but take the AM Victor for example as it is a street legal/track monster, yet in my opinion I wouldn't immediately identify it as an AM. It has AM design cues but it doesn't have the typical AM design. My point is that more often than not, one off Ferraris are not always going to have a beautiful design since the customer contributes to the design in some way regardless of what the brand's design language consists of.
@raymonds7492
@raymonds7492 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how every time they remake the California it gets uglier.
@elcrack3343
@elcrack3343 3 жыл бұрын
0:59 this is the most accurate part in the whole video
@exoticdriver84
@exoticdriver84 3 жыл бұрын
If Subaru and Ferrari together made a BRZ...
@h2wr
@h2wr 3 жыл бұрын
It looks horrendous
@mista414
@mista414 3 жыл бұрын
That 296 GTB is beautiful, hadn't seen it before.
@klaimster3184
@klaimster3184 3 жыл бұрын
Marouane, what ever happened to doing the car reviews in person? Idk if I missed the info on a previous video or something.
@hungnguyenle3590
@hungnguyenle3590 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure about that square-ish front end though. I wish it could have been tighter, rounder and less blocky
@93ksj
@93ksj 3 жыл бұрын
Made it soo much better wow great work
@GasMaskReacts
@GasMaskReacts 3 жыл бұрын
rather have the br20. the roma is beautiful, but way too simplified. it isn't very exciting at all. it doesn't look like a ferrari at all. actually, it's the front fascia i don't like on the roma. over simplified.
@itsgerardchin
@itsgerardchin 3 жыл бұрын
wow... we can sense your anger... actual anger...
@AnkitYadav-rf3zq
@AnkitYadav-rf3zq 2 жыл бұрын
People who would buy this car thet don't have any problem with this design just you have problems ,and one of the main reason why people buy this car is that aggressive line and that Ferrari face design , limited Ferrari
@Leto_II
@Leto_II 3 жыл бұрын
On the defence of Ferrari the BR20 is a special project so it was designed to liking of that particular client, I agree that it doesn’t look elegant or graceful but still looks good.
@OmarDenarzi
@OmarDenarzi 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't just made it beautiful but very gorgeous, Now am going to wait for you to redesign the rear end
@ifixthings633
@ifixthings633 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the new Acura Integra prototype?
@joebates640
@joebates640 3 жыл бұрын
Put an Aston Martin badge on it and I think it would go quite well, because it kind of reminds me of that from their Zagato cars of the past
@HIMANSHUJSBH52QPSF
@HIMANSHUJSBH52QPSF 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ferrari is calling you next to design their car.
@NoxiousPond
@NoxiousPond 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t need to touch the headlights. They were fine. The redesign headlights don’t even match up. Other than that I will say it looks MUCH better.
@damianhans5463
@damianhans5463 3 жыл бұрын
And lastly I think that the claymodellers used an previously used model then added on clay.
@DexBunny
@DexBunny 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the side profile of the BR20, the front not so much. If the read in the side profile didn't have that every busy bumper it would genuinely resemble a speedtail and I love that.
@napalmtec
@napalmtec 3 жыл бұрын
You fix it very well - so now you have to get it to the production Draghistan. :D
@paullawrence6606
@paullawrence6606 3 жыл бұрын
Way big improvement. It would be nice to see the black eye liner in the headlights converted to DRL 3D light piping.
@CAPSTONE.
@CAPSTONE. 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the comparison got my dieing 🤣🤣🤣 this whole car is just 🤣
@phenic5761
@phenic5761 2 жыл бұрын
Sketch Monkey: Lets redesign the BR20 what he meant: lets make a new version of the 550 maranello
@ebariaraf2332
@ebariaraf2332 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the BR20's front remind me of a 2022 BRZ?
@sergeantromanovklov4378
@sergeantromanovklov4378 2 жыл бұрын
his redesign is so much better
@VaunShiz
@VaunShiz 3 жыл бұрын
It looks more like a fan render than a actual Ferrari, what a confused design
@1point521
@1point521 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like if Mansory got a hold of a GTC4Lusso
@AmineKouki
@AmineKouki 3 жыл бұрын
I curious about your opinion regarding the new SP3. I have mixed feeling about it. But love the rear view!
@manojdamala3111
@manojdamala3111 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, doesn't seem like a ferrari, i agree with everything you said. I like the redesign of the front, should've redesigned the side & rear as well.
@sebastianpujo7266
@sebastianpujo7266 3 жыл бұрын
This one and F12 looks like Bart and Hugo! 😁 Roma lines couldn't be more exquisite..sooo beautiful..but the front grill looks a 5yo child design. Great video! Keep on 👍
@intocars_24
@intocars_24 3 жыл бұрын
The redesign looks like a more beautiful Ferrari FF
@RyeitOut
@RyeitOut 3 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari 550 Maranello was my favorite and I still like that design!
@duckmintNZ
@duckmintNZ 3 жыл бұрын
Please have a look at restyling the new Acura Integra. It doesn't look anything like it's lineage
@orionrocks
@orionrocks 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to Ferrari is they took over the design from Pininfarina .
@radwi69
@radwi69 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, just being an outside admirer of Italian Exoticas! Reading carefully through different comments down below, I am disappointed. Ferrari, being the brand and firm they are should not have bow at all to temptations!
@nikahadasart3207
@nikahadasart3207 3 жыл бұрын
Your car drawing is something amazing, Its my dream to draw like this, thank you for sharing
@slyzr84
@slyzr84 3 жыл бұрын
I think there were just attempting to make a longer berlinetta
@claudiakramer4516
@claudiakramer4516 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Even premium brands are now giving us less quality per dollar. Across sectors they are planning even more obsoletion
@AdjamiHichem
@AdjamiHichem 3 жыл бұрын
This is not a design this is what we call an architecture
@s3p4kner
@s3p4kner 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more, the words you've used to describe Ferrari have been absent for years and I've not aspired to own any of their vehicles for decades. Call Ferrari what you will, but you won't call them timeless, elegant, graceful. IMO the last vehicle that could have been called these things was the 456, and since then they've been trying too hard to shout 'look at me' or like they popped out of a jelly mould.
@goatgoat9940
@goatgoat9940 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't understand the aerodynamics of a car, don't touch it or call it "bad"....... Functionality always goes over look and this counts more and more the more time passes
@huelysses
@huelysses 3 жыл бұрын
I love how almost every modern ferrari looks like venom
@ilkkasorsa9778
@ilkkasorsa9778 3 жыл бұрын
This redesign is good. Original front end looks like some cheap Peugeot. Cheap in the sense of cheap that is implemented usually in cars trying to look like they are more expensive than their actual price bracket.
@vernplaysguitar
@vernplaysguitar 3 жыл бұрын
When the F12 had a one night stand with a civic type R :
@Nikita_Turbo
@Nikita_Turbo 3 жыл бұрын
I have to respectfully disagree, I like it more than the Roma. However I do agree that they could town down all the styling elements, those are a bit too busy, and the redesign is a solid attempt at that. I feel like they’ve had a great design but should have iterated it a few more times before saying yeah that’s it
@waynemangan9925
@waynemangan9925 3 жыл бұрын
The Hyundai Sonata team got a hold of this Ferrari nose
@damianhans5463
@damianhans5463 3 жыл бұрын
I think the designer didn't use the KISS formula.
@G59METH
@G59METH 3 жыл бұрын
I would've stopped at 13:39
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 3 жыл бұрын
pinnifarina literally left for less than a year, and ferrari is already majorly screwing up
@fitz2589
@fitz2589 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the v12 is what is making the wheelbase so long. Either way their front engine cars look too much like C7 Corvettes
@stormrider01
@stormrider01 3 жыл бұрын
I like the design of the BR20, it's wonderful! Way better that the unproportional design of the 812 Superfast ot the Lusso which I think it's the worst Ferrari ever made, horrible! I think the Roma also looks worse than this. What you have made is a F12 and this is what it not should be.
@tilmanboa6483
@tilmanboa6483 3 жыл бұрын
I see the Mazda 6 concept
@damianhans5463
@damianhans5463 3 жыл бұрын
I think the new generation designers procrastinating more and missing deadlines. 😂 😂 😂 😂
@eastwoodsamuel4
@eastwoodsamuel4 3 жыл бұрын
From the side view, the front (headlights) looks like AMG One.
@NeoCambodia
@NeoCambodia 3 жыл бұрын
Could you redesign the 1979 Volvo 144 to a modern design
@IconW
@IconW 3 жыл бұрын
Ferrari 458 is the best looking car ever. Still. So it seems to be timeless design already.
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