The “nice guy” hangs out with his “bestie” and her new creepy boyfriend

[@liamgavinwells]

I think this is the first video where Elliot was a somewhat normal person

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Yeah right sitting in that situation in the first place is what makes him Elliot

[@alligatorsun1854]

I mean compared to someone like Zed, of course he would seem seem somewhat normal. And of course Zoe isn't realising that people like Zed are best left alone.

[@JohnDoe-hs1jp]

I think this is the second part of Elliot's redemption arc.

[@redseven4040]

I mean this time Eliot was at least having a conversation without getting ignored. He’s still being a snake trying to convince Zed to break up with Zoey behind her back. Eliot really still is the bottom of the food chain.

[@moosehead4497]

No

[@matthewstanulet1441]

When an insufferable object meets and irredeemable force

[@ss-ds2dn]

Chef's kiss lol

[@metatron478]

10/10

[@brigade7678]

incredible phrasing 💯

[@user-jw8rr3zy8y]

We are all trash in one way or another.

[@Thunderbender18830]

Learning that Elliot is only 18 and just barely figuring out life makes him a lot less hateable. His behavior still isn’t excusable mind you, just more understandable.

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

Yeah. Agreed. If people are rooting for Zoe, then I'm rooting for Elliot too

[@aussiejubes]

​@infuriated9167 after this, I hope noone is rooting for Zoe lol

[@dessertcactus]

@@aussiejubes it's hard, she's in an abusive relationship so I hope she realizes what's happening and gets better

[@cat_city2009]

@@dessertcactus She will at like 30 lmao.

[@jcselement]

@@dessertcactuswhores never change bud

[@josemaria8177]

That blank expression while saying "approved" is the most relatable that Elliot has ever been.

[@user-jw8rr3zy8y]

We’re all trash

[@Gloomistic]

LMAO

[@jackfarnum97]

lmfao at Zed swiping on Tinder on his phone. Attential to detail is everything!

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Elliot is 18 which makes this so much better. He's not an older creep just an inexperienced kid with a lot of learning and growing to do still. Kinda refreshing yk?

[@ggmu4656]

Yeahh i assumed Elliott was 30 something, now that he isn't he is far less creepy

[@Golf.dealer]

Zed is the homie though.

[@tedtom1566]

It’s sad when the Nice Guy is the most reasonable one in this conversation.

[@alejrandom6592]

Fuck

[@alexbaribeault]

He just seems like a misguided teenager with a good heart despite his simping tendencies. Why does the video call him a "nice guy"?

[@user-jw8rr3zy8y]

@@alexbaribeaultbecause he is.

[@truestdarknesski_7211]

@@alexbaribeaultMostly due to the characters behavior in previous videos I believe

[@deafengineer]

Both are horrible, but at this point, Zoe is slappable as well. Is the moral of the story is that, everyone, is a slappable jerk?

[@theslappablejerk]

Pretty much

[@ellaminnowpea1999]

I feel like there is still hope for Zoe… and even Elliot, as another commenter pointed out; Zed, on the other hand… 🥲

[@riverman6462]

​@@theslappablejerkWas that milk intentional subtext? If so, is Elliot meant to be immature and clingy, exactly like a baby 😂

[@lirich0]

@@theslappablejerkaside from the grandson and tenured boomer. And maybe the cavers

[@Nevy21]

except the guy raised by his grand parents

[@Kittyinshadows]

Love seeing Elliots little brain ping like "there is something wrong with the way this man treats women" but not getting it bc then he'd have to face his own sense of entitlement lmaoo

[@AGameGem]

Elliot being 18 definitely means he has time to reform and be a better person. Zed is already in "age is just a number, jail is just a room" territory.

[@lampshark]

I think it’s nice that Elliot does seem to have a genuine interest and concern for what’s going on, outside of his own personal wants, makes me feel like his cousin might be rubbing off on him

[@getlostinmyeyes3713]

He is young and can definitely change for the better, really hope that's where this goes

[@SuedeBeach]

Actually it seems like he’s only concerned that Zoe is hooking up with other guys not that Zed is doing something immoral 😂

[@raecooker]

Yeah, incense can really change a person.

[@evilkingstanley]

Im just so fixated on the bit of interaction where Zed says "I don't know if you can handle your shit," over a fucking white claw 😂

[@walterclements_]

LMFAOOO right

[@musiquemacabre]

Then the reveal that the white claws weren’t even his 🧑‍🍳💋

[@jameshill8493]

Trying to lil bro Elliot

[@groyperfuhr4871]

to be fair people like that do exist. And I fuckin hate having to leave the house to drive some drunkie I don't know too well home.

[@jameshill8493]

@@groyperfuhr4871 I make them walk or get an Uber. You don’t have to to leave the house then complain about it after, you are choosing it.

[@ellaminnowpea1999]

The awful interpretation/execution of poly is so spot on I want to strangle Zed 😂

[@ShootNowAskLater01]

All interpretations and executions of poly relationships are terrible for everyone

[@mitchelleroberson]

@@ShootNowAskLater01thank you facts 😂😂😂😂 lololol

[@Nikkidafox]

@@ShootNowAskLater01 No, no. I think that there's one that works. In my experience, 3 people in a mutual polycule (all are in a relationship together), it can work well. But yeah saying you're poly then just hooking up with randos is no.

[@zed-47]

Why strangle me

[@limyarplane1991]

@@Nikkidafox yea i have seen it work, it just needs alot of communication between partner's and understanding. not for everyone though but a proper polycule can work out pretty well if everyone in it is emotionally mature enough.

[@MoldyRainbowButter]

I feel so bad for Zoe. She's been manipulated so much that she thinks that's what relationships are supposed to be like.

[@gbazo762]

Eh, at some point you gotta take responsibility for yourself. Even a slow person should be able to see the signs by the 3rd or 4th time. Some people play the victims in relationships like these and it's just another type of manipulation.

[@K4inan]

@@gbazo762 what part of she's been so manipulated she can't take responsibility for herself do you not understand bud

[@gbazo762]

@@K4inan the part where her characters a fully functioning adult who IS responsible for her actions and choices. I have no interest arguing with a man child who think adults arent responsible for their actions, bud.

[@Vancofe]

​@@gbazo762it will blow your mind when you discover toxic relationships

[@gbazo762]

@@gulsu4054 she's older than me, she should know.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

My question is, where are Zoe's parents when these 30 year old losers are hanging around their teenage daughter? Also, I officially think Zed is your worst character. He's hurtling towards full on abuse and it makes me so uncomfortable because it's so SUBTLE. He's such an incredibly realistic character as there are men out there who behave exactly like this and get away with it all the time. The veneer of alternative cool guy with high minded buzzwords to cover for his shitty behaviour is this guy's trademark.

[@xdlr22]

I would say more than Hurtling he IS abusive. Just not physically. But he’s controlling, manipulative, has double standards, isolates her… the whole shebang. She’s obviously brainwashed by him looking for some kind of recognition and love that she’s not getting. And he knows she’s desperate to please so he’s taking full advantage. And maybe the lack of Zoe’s parents actually speaks the most which is something I haven’t seen someone comment before. If her parents aren’t around much or don’t care about her then it’s obvious why she would be craving attention from someone who is emotionally unavailable or feels “exclusive” in a forbidden sense. That said, I do think her dad showed up in a video with her ex Brian before 🤔 so I’d like to get more of the scoop on her background tbh

[@azathoththe3rd]

I'm hoping Brian's redemption arc is oncevhe gets himself cleaned up Zoes parents beg Brian to get back with Zoe cause all her new boyfriends are getting worse and worse

[@josedanielng604]

Damn

[@phabiorules]

If I were to guess, it’s that they disapprove of her choices, but also don’t want to come off as controlling. Not to mention Zoe is 18, so if they demand that she breaks up with him, there isn’t much they could do besides kick her out (straining their relationship and making her more dependent on her boyfriend.) I’m guessing that behind the scenes, they are asking Zoe questions about her relationship and giving advice, but she isn’t listening.

[@LordConstrobuz]

it funny slappable jerk got big by making fun of redditors and now those redditors are writing cringe indepth essays analyzing every detail of his videos like theyre kubrick films or something.

[@Irishbloke]

It seems like Elliot was about to get into his usual shenanigans but upon observing how messed up Zed and Zoe’s relationship is he just became normal for once.

[@GoLuckYerself]

It’s been so impressive that he’s made these characters like Wyatt and Elliot that have been portrayed as stereotypes they are of insufferable people, and somehow without changing who they are, made them somewhat normal or even making us root or sympathize with them with given circumstances, very very good writing!

[@skyesfallenxx]

For real. He's made them into realistic people and they're not just skits anymore. And he didn't give them unrealistic good deeds, it remains believable.

[@pickyyeeter]

"It's weird thinking you're with different guys every night" is so quintessentially Elliot He doesn't actually like Zoe, he's in love with an idealized version of her that he built up in his head. He has no interest in actually knowing her; everything he does for her is in sevice of his fantasy

[@Bala_Niranna]

The sigh of relief I let out when I learned Elliot was only 18. Like thank God he's just an idiot teen, there's still time

[@halleffect5439]

Yeah, makes him actually the least insane person here. 18 is not a high age. People still developing. He will not be the same with 22. Mistakes are normal. We all did them. The 30 yo boyfriend who hangs up with 18 yo is a creep.

[@seronimo__7735]

Narrator: There would not be time

[@alejrandom6592]

There is a subtle detail not being mentioned: you'd expect Elliot to get excited when realizing they are poly (since this theorically gives him a chance), instead of that he shows genuine concern for Zoe. Probably those talks with Teddy are starting to change him...

[@ChrisMGermann]

It would be nice to think so, but if r/niceguys has taught me anything, that kind of hypocrisy where incels feel entitled to sex but expect their targets to be chaste is too damn high 😬😬

[@cheyennedorsagno1758]

I can imagine Elliot trying to buddy up to Zed more so he's "approved"

[@tigerjupmer123]

I dont think so He seemed genuinely concerned at the end

[@cheyennedorsagno1758]

@@tigerjupmer123 what a character arc lol

[@madladam]

See here's the thing; Zed is always gonna find a way to stop Zoe from hooking up with anybody at all, especially if he's not actually weird.

[@cheyennedorsagno1758]

@@madladam true, but Elliot doesn't really pick up on social cues lol

[@BeardedSerpent]

Elliot is one thing, I've been like that at 18 and there's always the possibility he gets outta that mindset. People like Zed, however, are wastes of skin and should not be permitted to exist.

[@brettzforeman]

Do you mean Zed? Brian's not in this one.Tbf, the actors who play them look really similar so it's an easy mistake to make.

[@BeardedSerpent]

@@brettzforeman lol yeah, so many names. Brian ain't exactly Prince Charming either, but nowhere near as bad

[@TheXxomasteroxx]

Ofc a former elliot would complain about the zeds of the world 😂

[@hibs5516]

@@TheXxomasteroxx skill issue

[@DiAn-ud8dy]

Elliot is a Nice guy, he just see women as objects and that's what 4busers do, if You were really like that then You still are, r4pists don't change, if You mean just weird that's a completely different story, that's not being a Nice guy

[@anastasiabennett4854]

Wow Zoe really takes one step forward and 2 steps back doesn’t she

[@diddit_dunnit]

Elliot not drinking the milk is a beautiful touch to the start of a redemption arc ❤

[@Grey_3438]

The pain I feel when a video features Zoe is, once again, surrounded by absolutely insufferable men is unmatched

[@curious1053]

She lacks self awareness and it hurts to watch.

[@thetraplord1564]

Sometimes, I feel like the gears are turning in Elliot's head.

[@Dexter.BoyGenius]

Something tells me that Elliot will reach out to Brian to form a temporary "alliance" to take down Zed 🤔🤝😆

[@azvr8997]

Brian: [sniff] So what’s the deal with the new Zed guy? [cough] Elliot: Wull hes really taking over zoe’s mind… and wull i think we should save her Brian: [chew] Lets take him down [sniff]

[@shrinkwrap1770]

Poor Zoe. I hope she meets Teddy and he sets her on the right path.

[@raydgreenwald7788]

Teddy is Elliot's cousin, and I think Teddy is a least making cracks in Elliot. Maybe at one point Teddy will get though to Elliot and that will be the point he takes Zoe to his cousin's house and Teddy gets though to her

[@kytten4506]

Why would you want her to ruin Teddy like that :(

[@georgeaird4637]

Teddy deserves a lot better than Zoe. Shouldn’t be up to someone to “fix up” a romantic partner

[@raydgreenwald7788]

@@georgeaird4637 I think they met "I hope Zoe meets Teddy so that he can strsighten her out"

[@caesarstrings]

Zoe and Zed saying “baby” is the audio equivalent of running your fingernails over styrofoam

[@Slurpfishplug]

I oddly found myself rooting for nobody they’re both absolutely horrendous, great work

[@monke9386]

thank you

[@lirich0]

I oddly found myself rooting for The nice guy, he kind of plays the voice of reason in this situation which is kinda sad considering his past and mentality

[@borRIING]

both? you mean all 3

[@noided4230]

I oddly found myself rooting for People that don't post stupid clickbait comments as if we're all on the edge of our seats to see what the second half of your comment says, dork

[@cmdrdyland]

Least of three evils, Nice Guy is in quite the pickle here. At first they were being intrusive, but now their intrusive inquiry has uncovered something even more slappable than being intrusive itself. It drives me utterly insane how accurate this is.

[@tristanheath4037]

Loving all the different story lines. Honestly like a show. Always entertaining. Short but not so short that you forget about it. Been watching for awhile. Super awesome

[@casieatthe393]

Didn’t think I could hate a boyfriend more than her last one.

[@dubssalamander]

I love how your characters keep crossing over keep it up homie!

[@Upsidedownzack]

Not even in hollywood have I seen these types of characters make me physically react like I do with his.

[@showmethem5ney]

You make me so uncomfortable. I love it 💀

[@qwertyrhino9497]

This guy is so good at portraying the most unlikeable characters ever.

[@impati3nce50]

Zoe needs a good convo with the kid raised by his grandparents so she can see what a non shitty guy is like

[@SoulAir]

The 'wull' hits me so hard in the PNW

[@ijrittenhouse]

Is this the beginning of a character arc for "Nice guy?" Can he stand up for Zoe and get her out of this toxic relationship, WITHOUT needing the reward of getting the girl, but out of the selflessness in his own heart? Hopefully his cousin Teddy can help him through this

[@bluebird1914]

Ironically I knew a girl like this in highschool. Although her bf was at least her age. Shit like this is painful, at least if they're with a dude like Brian they'll listen to reason. Guys like Zed though, they'll make any and every excuse under the sun when you try to point out how toxic their behaviour is.

[@hahaha00000]

I'm waiting for Brian to confront Zed and redeem himself.

[@laxxius]

I was totally right Elliot is definitely getting a redemption arc! I hope Zoe gets one too in her future, and she apologizes to her poor friends. I hope Brian simply fucks off already, and I hope Zed lands in a situation where he has to work under Frank somehow

[@wakelogger8357]

Honestly i’d choose Brian over Zed any time. Zed is a sociopath. I also hope that Elliot gets a redemption arc. Because i see a little bit of myself in Elliot. At least his low self esteem is identical to mine. I’ve never pursued a girl who doesn’t want me but still,i think i am a “nice guy”. I hope not.

[@mandalynn1384]

​@@wakelogger8357 as long as you see women as people, and remember that friendship isn't currency to buy s*x, you're good

[@jameshill8493]

@@wakelogger8357 the problem with “nice guy” being viewed as such a negative now is that it has also been used to describe just guys with low self esteem and actually are nice, because it’s in the name. So especially young guys like I was hear this associate that with ourselves and start thinking we are doing something wrong or are bad. When in reality we are talking about 2 different things when saying “nice guy”

[@wakelogger8357]

@@mandalynn1384 I see women as people and hell no,I wouldn’t want sex from them because they are friends with me. Thank god i am not a nice guy™️.

[@wakelogger8357]

@@jameshill8493 i think i am associating being alone and low self esteem with being a Nice guy™️. I guess i am not one. Because i try to be nice to everyone. Not just specifically women.

[@ThomasTheCure]

Elliot and Zed are a crazy combo lol I love it

[@Skewop]

The no from zed at Zoe’s house is hysterical

[@marsship921]

The "nice guy" seems loke a normal person here tbh

[@user-gp5yz5yz4x]

I like Elliot was taken so off guard by their relationship that he stopped being an asshole

[@basicindiebro]

Of course the classic abusive behavior of “allowing” friends to do/not do stuff

[@aleisterlilywhite1109]

Why do they actually LOOK different ages?? That’s magical, man.

[@aeong_bread]

Zoe being barely legal and still emotionally lacking, but still groomed into a "poly" relationship with some dipwad who just wants to hook up with a bunch of young girls, and gets mad if the female in the relationship wants to also see other people LOL. It's basically an open relationship, but only open for the male, I've seen this with an IRL. My friend was with a guy (bartender at a local brewery LMFAO) and he made her believe it was ok for him to see lots of women without any explanation, but she couldn't sleep with guys like he did in hookups. Anyways, she got a great paying job at a local establishment and he barely makes rent, karma.

[@XCeazyX]

I too hope to someday work for the esteemed local establishment

[@aeong_bread]

@@XCeazyX I was wasted when I posted this and I'm losing my mind over the fact I said "local establishment", it's so fucking funny to me. To be specific, she sells wine to rich people, at the local establishment.

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

Now, now, don't be a misogynist!

[@xTHlSGUYx]

God damn, these just keep getting more real the more these characters’ worlds collide

[@yeahrightbear8883]

I remember being 18 and hanging out with a girl I liked and her 28 year old boyfriend. And then they'd break up, and she'd immediately have another boyfriend that she just met. It's such a sad cycle to be in for everyone involved. I'm glad I grew out of it.

[@michaelslowmin]

The look of horror on Elliots face is priceless.

[@wakelogger8357]

In this one Elliot wasn’t much of a nice guy in my eyes. He was a guy who just was confused. And there is a possibility that he just wants to be friends with Zoe rather than trying to get her as his girlfriend. I hope he listened to Teddy’s advice.

[@FireAtWill-fu9bo]

Elliot didn’t even get a chance to show off how much he sucks. He was truly outdone here.

[@sonicfangal2000]

I hope Zoe gets her head together one day. It's heartbreaking seeing Zoe with this guy.

[@InshasChoice]

This guy Zed, is what you need protecting from Zoe...

[@marchingbandtakemebythehan1887]

the “wull” is SUCH a nice touch. every nice guy really does that lmao

[@matthewslivkoff5937]

Eliot seems like a normal 18 year old. He just learned everything he knows about women from Hollywood and comic books.

[@CptPurpleHero]

NO don't give him the claw! There are no laws when your drinkin' claws!!!

[@augerd2330]

Wait i thought not meeting parents was one of Zed’s “boundaries”? unless I missed something, why would zed be at her parents house?

[@VigRox67]

Parents are probably away so it's just them

[@PaullyDre]

The layers in this. Just, so good.

[@lintlickerben]

I like how spot on the clothing fashion is

[@TehBaconer]

Elliot being 18 makes so much more sense. I keep thinking that a lot of these characters have traits I had around that age. It doesn't justify a lot of the behaviors but I think a lot of people like that grow out of it. VERY alarming if they're still like that at 30 though.

[@birb9799]

this is really well written, i could believe it’s a real show.

[@sarahdiehl3056]

Awww poor Elliot I wonder if this becomes a super eye opening experience and he starts to be more self aware after this?

[@curious1053]

“Wow, Zoe really loves that a-hole. Her last bf was an a-hole too. Women really love a-holes.”

[@Emtrax.]

It was a genius idea to link up all of your characters

[@kenfail]

But this is your parents house, im deaddd

[@puredistilledwater]

The universe keeps expanding! Better writing the MCU

[@Crystal-Sparking]

Ohh for a second there i almost endorsed Elliott

[@xdlr22]

Yeah he really got me when he said “I can’t imagine you sleeping with random men every night” or whatever to that extent. He could’ve been concerned for so many other reasons but what really got him was the thought of Zoe with a bunch of men. Otherwise Elliott could’ve been a semi hero. I knew as soon as they mentioned being Poly that it really only applied to Zed and not her. 😒 I’ve seen it irl way too many times to count. In this scenario it’s just manipulating your partner into tolerating you cheating on them, but if you told Zoe that she would probably lose her mind. Doesn’t help that Zed mixes calling it out as misogynistic while he also “protects” her from other men. God I hate him so much.

[@helliot7943]

“That’s misogyny” lmfaoooo

[@redseven4040]

My brain thinks these are two completely different people based off their facial expressions and mannerisms.

[@Watermelanmartini]

Zoe's parents must be so proud

[@metaleggman18]

That time when Elliot had his first non-Nice Guy thought about his best friend Zoe.

[@zubetp]

they had me in the first half - i thought elliot's problem would be that zed was ignoring her. and it's super healthy for polyamorous people to make sure their partners are cool with adding another partner. but i ended up agreeing with elliot. plus zoe was being kind of mean to him. if somebody was like "my boyfriend said you can't have a beer so here's a juice box" i would set the juice down and go get my own drink

[@Njfwn1017]

Dude I love your characters, so creative! Can’t wait to see each of the stories continue to develop ✍️

[@cheyennec5546]

They all deserve each other holy shit

[@sourstateofmind5944]

“Wull” 😂 gets me every time haha

[@roche320]

Zoe is so lucky that Zed is looking out for her.

[@sam-873]

Bro i hope Elliot grows up and sees the error of his nice guy ways

[@MolternK]

i like that theyre both awful

[@user-xh7sd1sw9f]

I really wish everyone on Earth was like these people. Wouldn't that be awesome? Imagine if everyone you knew, every family member, every friend you could possibly make, every child was destined to grow up no matter what they did to be just like this or worse.

[@Hollyberrystreats]

Oh God Zoe, you sweet summer child... 😬

[@hdbordercollie]

The "wull" for "well" is sending me. ouchy lmao

[@lilj5759]

I like to believe that the nice guy is nearing a critical turning point. This can go several ways but I can see him going the black pill incel route, the stage has been set and his cannon event is near.

[@Cyphlix]

Zed is such a good protector

[@SuedeBeach]

Actually it seems like he’s only concerned that Zoe is hooking up with other guys not that Zed is doing something immoral 😂

[@hartlepoolmono8178]

These are so fun pls make more

[@reilysmith5187]

The acting for these different characters is spot on. Makes me wander if you ever read about the SSH. Have you?

[@HeisenbergFam]

0:48 nothing more reassuring than awkward silences in the middle of conversation

[@themistoklestheodosopoulos6253]

Niceguy>Zoe>Zed

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

I'm tempted to bump Zed up to second place here. He's a cumbrained degenerate, but he's more honest than the other two put together. Also Zoe is frankly better off with just Zed than Zed plus a handful other sexual predators. But out of all three she has absolutely no excuse here, she should know better than to be involved with either two.

[@themistoklestheodosopoulos6253]

@@salvatoreshiggerino6810 yea but he's also an adult lol. The only one of them who is an actual predatory person.

[@daydreamlover15]

“Wull” is so funny😭😭😭😊

[@LeafyGreens726]

The way that they r like " no thats misogynistic! " but then see no problem implying that zoe cannot think for herself and the other guy needs to protect her???

[@wayfairer5086]

I want a twist where elliot ends up saving her from him but they remain friends. Because being a good guy best friend is okay.

[@joelle4226]

The double standards in these comments are crazy. Elliot is young and naive and can change but Zoe is an adult and deserves this. Smh that’s the real misogyny here lol

[@afckingegg7585]

Yeah it's pretty chilling. Apparently it's fine to be an incel at 18 because "you can change", no matter that 18 year olds are still capable of being abusive and horribly damaging other people and MOST 18 year olds have figured out how not to do that. But being a victim of abuse is an irredeemable character flaw. People just really hate women I guess.

[@romancatholicgameing]

Have you noticed that the people who are saying Elliot is young and naive and the people that are saying Zoe deserves this don't seem to be the same people?

[@curious1053]

I can hear the misogyny comments with Zed’s voice.

[@myriahkeays3846]

Elliot has been slowly growing on me. He still has a lot to learn, but sometimes his tendencies are well placed

[@PaulFJarnes]

Omg please have Teddy intervene, his realness is desperately needed

[@ZachAsaD]

It’s crazy how different they look just by the body language and a hat 😂

[@pattycakesinc]

This is my new favorite cinematic universe. (SJCU) needs a crossover skit with "nice guy", the redditor, and the 30-year old boyfriend!

[@dreguevara2056]

NOT THE MILK 😂😂