A biologist used GPS to track hunters AND deer...this is what he found!

[@VABigRing]

I am an avid bow hunter. I do rifle hunt, but use it primarily for scouting new areas. Each year, I see it…again and again,….people don’t want to walk any further than 1/4 mile. I use a customized, camo painted bike,…riding it along the roadway where I can duck in,…then hike in a 1 1/2 miles,..crossing beaver dams and navigating swamps. I even store hip boots in a locked bin to cross creeks.

[@davidburley4196]

I used to think like this but what I discovered was if the cover is next to roads or parking areas that's where those smart older bucks will be patterning hunters! Personally witnessed this on some of hardest hunted gamelands in Pa. 51st year hunting these same game lands found sheds and deadhead in these places !

[@matthewh117]

Pa. hunter here, 50 years. You are absolutely correct. These smart bucks let you walk right past them.

[@BubbaGump777]

Yes, found this out this year! Same with turkeys...and yes, I'm from PA also. People are listening to this "gotta get further back in" stuff, but now the game is adapting just like they always do!

[@striverest1713]

I walked several miles and saw lots of buck signs and bedding areas, but no deer. On the way out, I got within 200 ft of the gate to leave the WMA and I jumped deer in the cover right at the main entrance lol

[@MrSprintcat]

I set up dear cameras, and they go right up to my camera and sniff it like nothing, deer, do what they want when they want

[@nickdillard6914]

We need info on the fellas that shook their head and said no thank you to the gps 😂

[@trevorlawrence2278]

I go in at least an hour before and at least a mile in on public and use terrain and other hunters push deer to me when they start going to the stand

[@TomReichner]

Given the information learned by this study, what do you suggest for hunters who have knee and lower back issues who cannot walk far, or who can not walk over difficult terrain (steep or thickly vegetated)?

[@HUNTRPOD]

I think you do the opposite of what most are doing. Find a parking area and go parallel with the road versus straight in

[@briankinnane5224]

We had a guy in my club who would always go out after everyone else (most of us went out in the dark) and then he would hunt close to the house… he shot a ton of deer by paying attention when he knew we all would be headed back for lunch lol he used us being hangry to do a deer drive for him.

[@nick9602]

Use an electric bike

[@alschulz5424]

I'm with you, I have stage 3 heart failure, arthritis in my lower back and both knees, my Dr. told me to stay out of the woods, but I still need to hunt. I hunt a 100,000 acre state forest and anything remotely accusable for me has 3-4 trucks parked there. I am going to resolve myself to bow hunt when these guys are at home. Even with a handicap hunting permit I can hunt from my truck, but a lot of good that does.

[@briankinnane5224]

@ God bless my brother and take care of yourself I plan on staying in the woods hunting fishing trapping hiking etc until the year that I die because if you were to take me out of the woods I might as well be dead. But my other suggestion is try socializing with some of the guys even in the parking area leave a post it with ur number or just go introduce we are birds of a feather and maybe you can get them to do a Deer drives. I had no problem as a younger man doing a deer drive for one of the older members of my club to sit… We had members in their 80s shooting deer and telling us this is probably the 300s deer that I shot in my life but this is the one I will remember to my grave and that in turn makes the next generation wanna do it .

[@Damyankee1989]

I love this podcast!!

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

We are glad you are enjoying it!

[@HUNTRPOD]

Gino is a smart man!

[@DashcamAmerica]

I love hunting but am I the only one these days that's having hard time finding people to go with. Damn phones.

[@cultleader3572]

Iam new to hunting in Connecticut cant find anyone to hunt with . Only 1% hunt here . Old timers only hunt phasant here

[@GulfCoastin]

My wife’s uncle and I absolutely HAMMERED bucks tag teaming areas. Both tagged out the last season he was around before he passed. Honestly feel lonely hunting now without him. It’s cool having a hunting friend that’s just as committed to it as you.

[@jonah-n8l]

Nope same here! Nobody wants to work/scout hang n hunt! Everybody lazy af!

[@wnek45]

Wisconsin public land hunter here! Hmu

[@Elonzo-k2y]

Could you carry me around on your shoulders 😅

[@briankinnane5224]

I’m wondering if you could do one of the studies in the Northeast like in New York because we have maybe 5000 WMA‘s and I can guarantee you more than 5% of them are covered by hunters because there’s just not enough area.

[@ML-ks2lj]

Bottom line is pre scouting post season and mapping out trails funnels beds and food. Pick a few setups for wind and have back ups incase of pressurem mark man made blinds and permanent stands and game plan around it look for dead heads and sheds mark those too.

[@brianc6739]

Wouldn't paralleling the road be hunting on the side of the road? When you walk perpendicular to a road doesn't that mean you're walking away from the road?

[@osar2870]

Yes

[@andrewpayne2811]

Yea, he’s saying going parallel to get to a hard to access spot. If hunters are parking every couple miles down a road and walking in, getting into that space between that nobody is accessing due to terrain features.

[@brianc6739]

@@andrewpayne2811 thank you for the explanation. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[@64RRussell]

I am not sure how to apply this to private land hunting on a few hundred acres.

[@jrwstl02]

Same thought here. I don’t think it applies at all.

[@FrankGulla]

private land, you hunt sign, if there's no scrapes, rubs or droppings there's usually no deer.....simple

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

In that situation, you could focus on the stands as the high pressure spots (ladder stands, box blinds, food plots, etc) For instance, on my lease we have a main road that has several food plots off the edge of it that get hunted hard. I have had success parking between the food plots and going into the woods between all those food plots. Most hunters are going to drive right by those woods on their way to the food plots

[@64RRussell]

@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen yes, that part is obvious. I was referring more to the hike several miles part. But, should I be hunting SMZ’s with a climber? Or, the places where SMZ’s meet plantation pines? Should I cut a fire lane between the SMZ’s and pines, and wait to ambush them on the firelane? Instead of putting green fields on a ridge line where the road is, should I position them between plantation pines and SMZ’s? Should I cut a trail across a saddle and create an ambush spot? What does the GPS data tell us about those questions?

[@TomReichner]

@@64RRussell this info is obviously not meant for applying to such a tiny area. It seems odd that you would try to apply advice for a certain specific scenario to a completely different scenario

[@knotengajin7359]

If everyone parks on the road, and most enter perpendicularly to the road, the walking parallel would just run you into another person who parked further down. Or you’d be hunting between the other guys and the road hoping they didn’t push the deer or elk further into the woods.

[@andrewpayne2811]

Getting to where the big bucks are is the priority. I think in field camping and packing out meat is going to be a big separation of the majority and the successful minority.

[@nickdillard6914]

I just woke up from going to bed at 2 am because I started a pack out on a black bear yesterday at 3:45. It’s 100% the separation, just walking the woods you can tell where people stop, trails, trash, human sign all stops about 500 yards from the road in these mnts. And that’s only maybe halfway to where the real hunting is. Debone and pack out is the game here and really the only way to kill anything over 130”

[@josephbrunson7672]

10 people on 250 acres is a lot

[@robmainville2632]

That’s crazy high. NB Canada here. Lucky to have 10 on 100,000 acres where I hunt and I still get upset seeing someone anywhere near my area. Guess I have it very good compared to what others deal with

[@markleclair4182]

I think hunters are also afraid of scaring deer and then not seeing anything. The flawed idea being that if you can find a nice stand of oaks or a nice creek bottom and slip in on one side, you can get a nice deer. On a huge tract, you should accept that you might bump deer. You should also figure out the main beds and feeding areas, adjust your hike in for the wind relative to those areas, and accept that you may bump deer on the way. On 50k acre WMA’s, it really doesn’t matter if you bump deer. There are plenty more around.

[@chrismacomber9727]

I think you guys should do a video on not packing deer out where I live in NC I cannot cunt the deer up and I hunt by myself...how the hell you go over 2 ridges and drag 160lb deer out by yourself???

[@NontypicalCaptain]

They have a field quartering video was a few years ago

[@chrismacomber9727]

@NontypicalCaptain lol I know how but the processing places around here don't have the space to hang 4 legs back straps plus tenderloin and store neck meat ...

[@shaneshonda]

​@@chrismacomber9727get a sled and 1 step at a time.ive done it at lbl without a sled because you have to check in the full deer

[@cultleader3572]

​@@NontypicalCaptainlink ?

[@jonah-n8l]

I’ve drug big bucks on public hunting solo till literally I was throwing up! A few times! It’s not fun!

[@frankspataro9714]

Doesn't sound like there is any hunters to speak of in the test 250 acres of woods per hunter i wish I had that much room to hunt without seeing anybody else

[@cultleader3572]

Any connecticut hunters here looking for hunting buddies ?

[@Surenuffbowhunter]

It sounds like they didn’t have enough deer collared to get an idea of what they were doing, surely some people were bumping deer somewhere

[@GulfCoastin]

Where I hunt I hardly ever bump deer. Stuff is so thick where they bed that you can’t get close enough to bump them.

[@johnwest2396]

A biologist is the worst thing ever invented in the worst thing for wildlife

[@davemichael6994]

Yes, education sucks.🙄

[@libertyBuilders]

Thanks for the obvious info of if you get farther back away from people you’ll have better luck! I could have told you that without the study!

[@manyfeather2knives423]

Have to disagree. When you have roads (parking areas) you have homes/camps. There you’ll find grass, browse etc and DEER!

[@libertyBuilders]

Disagree all you want but big bucks will go away from hunting pressure and I’ve hunted public and private land for over 40 years and killed a lot of bucks and the less hunting pressure the better your chances. Not saying you can’t kill a buck right beside the road but your chances are better away from the pressure that’s not an opinion it’s fact!

[@chamblen4]

i watched the whole thing before they got to the piece of information that made this information irrelevant, ie: they only tagged and tracked does on properties where doe hunting is not allowed!

[@sayimsgt4953]

you basically asked the hunters to tell you where there spots were at. Your datas skewed cause you didn't gps any real hunters.

[@jethyperion-gi1yo]

I learned an easy way to avoid hunters. They learned not to hunt near me real quick bc if I catch a hunter near me like today I play a big speaker that I keep in my bag an I play a loud song called I didn't get no deer because of yall. Yall ain't gonna get no deer because of me. An I play it on repeat until they leave.😂 Today I did that to this guy because he sat 10yards from me I'm wearing orange againts a tree in a field an this man walked across the entire field an say 10yards from me like wtf bro I know ur ass saw me bc I seen u once u hit the field.😂

[@GulfCoastin]

Video proof or it didn’t happen 🤣😂🤣

[@ethanfaunce108]

Hunter harassment is very illegal so watch yourself if you actually did this 😂

[@TheWakes120022]

This didn't happen, this is a troll looking for nothing but a rise. Move on pest.

[@tompeacock6674]

Felony in PA for harassment 😂😂

[@bridgerdemers3349]

That’s hunter harassment. You will be fined just for posting content that you did it.

[@Elonzo-k2y]

Strap a GPS on my A-- I'll walk in circles 😅

[@2birddogsandawolfdog945]

Have yet to watch a useful video from these guys... EVERY one is about Ekerns, whatever that is. 🤣

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

Well we appreciate you coming back to watch more 🤣😅

[@2birddogsandawolfdog945]

@thesouthernoutdoorsmen Titles get me to click, then I realize it's just more ekerns....

[@osar2870]

This is probably my favorite hunting podcast and I’m not even from the south, to each their own I guess

[@codyfisher3706]

Come to mississinewa in indiana and your data will flip upside down