The 2025 SpaceX Update Is Here!

[@sooma-ai]

SpaceX's 2025 plans include Starship orbital return and catch, new Starlink satellites, Raptor V3 engines, orbital refueling, increased launch frequency, new launch infrastructure, and multiple Falcon 9/Heavy missions to the Moon and for commercial customers.

[@ErenAlpErtem]

Cool

[@MiltonCedeno-l5x]

In the early pics of the Falcon Heavy there seems like a smaller Starship as payload. What about that idea?

[@MiltonCedeno-l5x]

Starship is just a silo. You cant't fool physics, you can't fool the tyrannous rocket equation. It is just the N1 and Space Shuttle all over again. btw Im not a hater. Im all for the feat of go to Mars

[@thebambi5817]

and we have nasa paying for an Uber dump of concrete on the moon...That left me wondering!

[@JimmyRussell-c2s]

Sooma-ai I would prefer to see atachable fuel tanks sent up instead of orbit refueling

[@bradleywilson5641]

Imagine what starship can do in 10 years time

[@LelandReview]

With luck they will have fully orbited Earth.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@LelandReview Brainwashed reddit user.

[@FischerNilsA]

@@LelandReview Maybe added some mood lighting.

[@Vict0ry_Cs]

​@@LelandReview maybe boeing will have had their first success with starliner by then lmao... or maybe new glenn will have been launched by then?😂😂

[@conard5381]

I am 65 I hope I am here to see it

[@i-love-space390]

At this point the Starship is just a boilerplate vehicle. A lot of hardware has to be added to carry propellant, cargo, or to be usable as a lunar lander or Space Station module. Hopefully, the Star Factory will make building the shell routine, and some of the hardware already has flight heritage on Dragon. But some of it will be brand new. We'll have to see how quickly SpaceX can work on building in all the details that make these Spacecraft useful.

[@FischerNilsA]

An experimental vehicle. That has until now failed to successfully carry out any missions. And yes, being on the sixth test flight without successes is not .... good in our species spacefaring history. Well see if the promised cheapening of the payloads will even ever materialize. It has not for now. Dragon9 are currently _more_ expensive than the russian Sojus-flights where. And thats 60s tech.

[@AramilX1995]

Starship has in fact met almost every goal for every test flight. It's called an iterative design. Crew dragons are also cheaper than soyuz launches. So you're basically just full of misinformation....

[@maximilianp.1526]

@FischerNilsA russian troll? SpaceX brings more payload to the orbit then the rest of the world AND Russia together :-) Russia is technological dead.

[@ronschlorff7089]

yup, it's like "back to the future", test test and test again; then GO for the moon and planets. Let's get to the latter this time around! :D

[@soulywoly7070]

@FischerNilsA 1st. you fail to account for the fundamental philosophy of SpaceX's design process. It would be completely wrong to equate one cheap prototype starship rocket to a fully researched and developed Saturn V rocket, so judging starship development based on the fact that they are on the 6th flight does not tell you anything about how successful the program is. A better way to compare would be the total cost of the program. So far, the entire Starship program has cost around 5 billion dollars, in contrast to the Saturn V program cost of 83 billion dollars. That's a bit over 6 billion dollars per launch or more than the entire Starship program thus far. This isn't even considering the cost of R&D for the shuttle program, which is largely considered a failure. The US government and the consensus of the rocket community is that these programs were unsustainable and not viable options for long-term spaceflight. These rockets used a fundamentally different design philosophy than SpaceX and many private rocket companies today. So far, NASA and SpaceX would consider that the Starship program is currently doing very well. Secondly, the claim that Dragon is more expensive than Soyuz is verifiably false using some research. A fully loaded Dragon mission to the ISS would cost 55million$ per seat. NASA often does not use all of the seats, which is a personal choice in wanting to keep the flight private, and that would result in a more expensive flight than the 55 million, but to be clear, that's NASAs choice and is still less than Soyuz. Our most recent figure for Soyuz is the NASA deal made in 2020, paying 90$ dollars per seat to the ISS.

[@caspargroenen4363]

Thx. You guys too, A Happy New Year.

[@ThePhantomTide]

Space X is extraordinary. Let's make some real-life Star Wars.

[@geospatialindex]

Star Trek

[@jswebbproductions9785]

so nice to hear your voice on this channel once again. I have missed it greatly. Good luck to your company and to Spacex in the coming year

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

Funny that a couple years ago people were saying it would never actually work. And look at starship now

[@ronschlorff7089]

That is almost exactly, to the word, what they said over 50 years go about NASA and Apollo going to the moon. It was mercilessly called "lunacy" and wasteful "boondoggling" and "shamefully taking billions of needed monies from the poor" in the country, by the media, ...until it happened. And then they all wanted a "piece of the action" for their networks by interviewing all the returning astronauts! : ) That may sound familiar today, with the media, and their Elon bashing, right? ;D

[@MiltonCedeno-l5x]

In all fairness it hasn't worked yet and very likely won't ever. Elon Promised a trip to Mars but instead gave us the N1 again.

[@code066funkinbird3]

Lol

[@ronschlorff7089]

"It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas" also beginning to look a lot like 1968, at this very time, when the first Apollo mission #8 went to the moon to obit it only and gave us those iconic pictures of our lonely blue planet in vast void of the Universe where we all must live in peace or die trying! : )

[@davidlang4442]

So use a sun shade on the vehicle to avoid boil off.

[@marabooq7150]

Was thinking that they could even use Earth as a sun shade potentially!

[@kendrickpi]

Two Starships means four stages; does this mean MORE towers needed for redundancy, when 100% reusability is achieved/needed? A (near) 1:1 ratio of stages to towers appears necessary to keep a margin of safety in regard to reusability and cadence.

[@Berryser1ous]

There’s a tower being built in Florida already

[@ronschlorff7089]

yes, all space industries should have a "Department of Redundancy Department"!! ;D LOL

[@TotyMetatronMithra]

all the achievements for spacex and for the entire space industry is just the beginning.

[@ronschlorff7089]

all things begin there!! LOL

[@ronwatkins5775]

Starship is going to need some sort of clamshell for deployment of larger payloads.

[@AnupomAG]

3:32 is that even possible? I mean sure communication is one thing but having internet means lots of transmission power is involved considering when the distance is around 500 km. The phone might need some specially designed antenna but even with that upload speed won't work properly.

[@bluesteel8376]

The satellites are lower than that. Spacex also isn;t the only ones offering that service. it is really unfortunate that most space channels do not cover Spacex's competitors, but AST Space Mobile is also launching satellites for direct to phone 4G and 5G service.

[@FischerNilsA]

It is already being done, by spaceX as well as competitors. Google sattelite to cell. Sending data from sattelites to phones was first done by verizon in the late eighties. The only thing really new about Starlink sattelite internet is the high number of relatively low and thus fast-used-up sattelites. Leading primarily to a low latency. The whole concept is no as high-tech as the gushing cult-marketing makes it seem.

[@AnupomAG]

@FischerNilsA how'll be the upload speed?

[@FischerNilsA]

@@AnupomAG Do you seriously expect me to google current technical specs for you? Those change. Your original question was if - for the "currently how" you will have to do your own legwork.

[@SapalPan-h5n]

Thanks happy Happy Newyear

[@ronschlorff7089]

oh, it will interesting alright, "happy", maybe not so for some of the commenters here "taking Musk to task". But he will be very busy on planet Earth, for two years, but still involved in his favorite "hobbies", like Mars. ;D

[@ThePlecoPal]

Current Artemis plans has got to be the dumbest way to land on the moon ever.

[@johnstewart579]

I'm looking forward to Rocket Labs maiden launch of Neutron rocket

[@TresHolton]

Thank You for the 2025 Preview/Update! Happy New Year 🕛🎊🎉

[@CYBRLFT]

I bet once pad B is launching ships, they’ll tear apart pad A and update it. They know the current OLM is a dead end for rapid use.

[@humanity1581]

We are still worried if we can bring back our two stranded astronaut from ISS back.... Alive please.

[@ronschlorff7089]

yes, hard to believe, I thought they would be home for Christmas!! I guess Biden's national priorities are rather to get convicted criminals home for Christmas!! That will change soon!!

[@WPIManiacMagic]

Two towers should also be good for recovery. If the booster has issues or just so you don't have to move one out of the way for the other to land?

[@ronschlorff7089]

right, that's why I usually had two girlfriends, in case one had issues, and could not be available, I had a backup, which often then became the primary, not the secondary. Get my logic, even if "not your cup of tea"? ;D LOL

[@nerdwatch1017]

I’d like to see newer more powerful versions of the Falcon rockets maybe strapped with Raptor like engines that could be used to launch maybe fuel pods like stations for small satellites to fill up. Something like a falcon 10-11 & 12 blocks but it makes sense they’d like to focus everything on starship

[@saquist]

Not feasible

[@RandomPerson-zl6uz]

Yeah that’s a complete new rocket

[@billweberx]

Why bother? The cost to LEO will be at least 5X lower for Starship and with vastly more capacity. It will be cheaper to launch than the Falcon 1. So, even for small satellites, it would be cheaper than any of the small rockets being developed.

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@billweberx good analysis as always. Happy holidays!! And 2025 will be a great new year I think, on Earth and in space, God willing!! : )

[@AmerBalindong]

2025 got even crazier

[@anthonyreid66]

Does that mean that the launch tower will be upgraded to match the height for block3 starship?

[@ronschlorff7089]

often yes, the vehicle dictates the launch facility design. Starhip experienced that in past pad "failures".

[@stormyridgegirl5229]

Actually, not that many Raptor Engine fails, a lot of the early issues was fuel feed problems.

[@Canada_Matt]

I would love to see a video on the history of the modern space race between china and the usa, preferably movie length. If you do this take your time on it I dont mind if it takes a year or 2, that way we can have more information.

[@NoobNoob1986]

2025 is the year 🎉🎉🎉

[@daleytab8766]

This is so awesome love space coast thank you 😊 ❤

[@O.S-v4y]

Heat shield tiles need sorting out.

[@ronschlorff7089]

is it the adhesive or attachment, the tiles seem ok.

[@MiltonCedeno-l5x]

@@ronschlorff7089 The last Starship landed (on water) pretty much burnt. Elon himself said on twitter that other cooling methods were on the table

[@theOrionsarms]

@@ronschlorff7089 yeah, the tiles "seems" to be ok, only the flaps that were supposed to be protected by tiles experience a meltdown 😂

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@theOrionsarms right, metal does melt, else we'd have no "civilized progress" for the past ten thousand years, eh? Thanks, Happy Holidays!! : )

[@theOrionsarms]

@@ronschlorff7089 Happy Hollydays to you too, and thanks for making me laugh with your first comment.

[@PuletuaWilson]

GOD BLESS YOU ELON MUSK AND YOUR AMERICANS COMPANIES ❤❤USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 CONTINUE GREAT WORKS FOR US USA 🇺🇸 THANKS ❤❤

[@naxxer-nha]

Keep making good videos guys

[@NickConsuegra-u2b]

Do you have any information on the Venus Life Finder mission?

[@jamesross1339]

As always great video

[@sanitarium017]

We could get a lander to the moon much faster if they would just make an expendable second or even third stage.

[@keniken2514]

I feal so positive about the starship Upper stage catch . They have many successful landings already. So exciting

[@KoushaTalebian]

Imagine what SpaceX can do now that Elon is in complete control of the regulatory bodies. Totally, definitely not gonna be a conflict of interest

[@iMeatbag]

Elon is NOT in complete control of regulatory bodies. He's in control of their budget and even then he can only make recommendations/requests. Final decisions still fall to congressional approval. He's also never denied it isn't in his and SpaceX's interest to have less regulation but funny thing about less regulation: it applies to everyone and that includes his competitors not just him. If anything it means his competitors have a better chance of catching up since they won't have to sit around and wait. New Glenn is currently sitting on the launch pad waiting for regulatory approval just like Starship and Super Heavy were. If this is meant as a critical jab, it failed.

[@amentco8445]

Elon's companies have been the ONLY ones pushing human spaceflight forward in any meaningful way in decades. Since the shuttle, really. I don't really care if it's a conflict of interest, those in the government have been conflicting with true progress for ages.

[@EddieSezPhukYou]

anything you want Mr Musk, don't cut my funding

[@Saphykitten]

He will cripple the US Economy before Starship has a chance to do anything remarkable

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@Saphykitten Worse than Bidenomics?

[@robertmurkland7153]

Continued development and adaptation of Starship is essential to US and its allies!

[@kevinschreiner4179]

Can't wait for the Artemis missions. We have to prove to ourselves again that the moon 50 years ago wasn't a fluke. We are now back with better technologies more safety and a vision to go even further. I don't know if I will live to see the day we step foot on Mars but it will be a great day

[@panzerblitz2140]

The moon landing wasn't unsafe. They managed it perfectly with the technology they had.But this Musk moon/mars fantasy won't happen, especially with Musk's privately owned rockets. NASA has the resources and expertise to do just that. They landed Rovers multiple times. Musk might crash land one of his tin cans there. Glad you don't claim these things are "starships"

[@JoshuaLi-p2e]

Let me guess: Elon Musk ate that banana at the end 2:53

[@RandomPerson-zl6uz]

Banana blew up in the Indian ocean

[@Gwydion67]

As far as I know, the banana was made from plastic (but just heard, may be wrong), thus I doubt Elon's appetite on it. 🍌😅

[@Damn-good-deal]

@@Gwydion67 it was a foam banana

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Gwydion67 not hard to believe if you've ever gone "house hunting", they always have a bowl of plastic fruit on the dining room table!! LOL

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Damn-good-deal those are even tastier!! LOL

[@cristinavolpi7856]

Very cool but is there intelligent life out there?? Does anyone have cool footage that isn’t from Earth aircraft’s?

[@joebloggs1317]

Orbital refilling sounds like a recipe for disaster, if starship explodes there's going to be several hundred tonnes of stainless steel orbiting the earth, potentially for months, if not years. Kessler syndrome and a home goal for spacex

[@davebooth5608]

Best on KZbin or otherwise!!

[@ronschlorff7089]

yes, getting better!

[@jjminecraftpro8700]

How will starship get people on board? Will it be get on before it goes up onto the power or will it be on the launch tower?

[@nicholaspatton1742]

Yes Elon... Excitement is guaranteed!! 😂

[@Trippin366]

Excellent content thanks 🙏

[@dalerogers1134]

Thank you!

[@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze]

Flacon 9 for most launches to the moon please!

[@Mrasianricefarmer4ever]

6:17 And that how we make more starships

[@coolbanana165]

Why could a rocket go to the Moon in the 60s, but modern rockets need refuelling in space??

[@ronschlorff7089]

Good tech question. The Apollo Saturn V rocket was huge, to lift off with enough to get all needed into orbit, I think two big stages, both expended, then the third stage, expended, was used to boost toward the moon, with the command and service modules and the lunar lander. Then they orbited the moon with the command, and the service modules, and went down to the moon with the lunar lander, then back up again to the command and service module, leaving the assent part of the lander to crash on the moon. Then, all in the command, and the service modules, they boosted back to Earth. Then, when in Earth gravity again, they all went down to Earth with the command module re-entering only, splashing down in the ocean, and leaving the service module to re-enter and burn up. I may have missed a step or two, but that is it. That's how to get from the Earth to the moon and back over 50 years ago!! And yes, they carried all the fuel they would need to and from the moon with them. Pretty easy, ...long ago!! : )

[@code066funkinbird3]

Since re doing it its very expensive

[@jason_m_schmidt622]

@@ronschlorff7089Also they left earth orbit in such a way that the gravity from earth slowed them down to require less fuel for lunar insertion. That in itself was genius

[@netizencapet]

Really liked the background music to this episode. What is it????

[@speedstriker]

The way NASA asks spacex to do what they let boeing get away with repeatedly is pure comedy

[@lawrencebraswell1389]

Do clouds space dust falling to earth effect heat shields

[@Miss59Pat]

I will be in the Boca Chica area from February 1st until March 31st 2025. Can anyone give me hope that I will be able to see a launch? That would be awesome! Thanks for any info.😊

[@andrejpetrovic8240]

Using AI and 3D printing the sky is not the limit, it can go further!

[@ronschlorff7089]

beyond the sky!!!

[@apricotcomputers3943]

if anyone says nothing in space is worth investing in... tell them, "well what about starlink?"

[@ronschlorff7089]

yup, and these "little things" we type on, none were available to the public until space flight needed stuff like small "on board" computers. Now the "board" is a desktop or a coffee table at Starbucks!! LOL ;D

[@ericstyles3724]

It has a paywall to access it & that's if Musk doesn't shut you down..

[@petesteirer]

One a month! Wow!

[@Ascend77]

Why would they send a cement block to the moon?!? It makes zero sense so much money wasted

[@billweberx]

They can't put a valuable payload on it as it might blow up.

[@gamerbossharmon]

@@billweberx But this is on the falcon heavy, not starship

[@thelazypotato7817]

Nasa went over their budget on testing now they can't send it anymore because of government limitations so instead they had to put the block there in its place

[@Ascend77]

@@billweberx by that definition the mission already failed before it even started

[@billweberx]

@@gamerbossharmon The concrete is on the spacecraft that the Falcon heavy is carrying. That craft is an experiment and has some instruments that NASA wishes to test, but there is too much risk to put the main payload on the craft.

[@timrobinson513]

How will they get enough fuel to the site to launch every day?

[@johnnymac6178]

Pipeline if I'm not mistaken. Supposed to be safer and more efficient.

[@saquist]

That's the biggest limitation for launches I think 16 tankers are required for just a single launch attempt

[@zmblion]

​@@saquist 16 isn't even close

[@bheemahariharan7142]

​more like 300 tankers​@@saquist

[@Gwydion67]

Original plans were to produce on site. We'll see...

[@Gumshrud1]

Elon Musk is the future of SpaceX. Mind blowing indeed.

[@jimashby43]

Thank you.

[@LocalTreePros]

No Starship must ever return to earth, they must be the building blocks of StarCity, only the propulsion section must be detached and land like a drone with solid stainless steel wings. End space stone age in 2025.

[@philofthefuture1570]

Its a big ask to get certified to fly that thing over land. Mexico or America. It makes little difference. If you're flying over populated areas, you have to prove you won't drop chunks on people. Space shuttle had to prove that because it was mostly aluminum, that very little would hit the ground if it broke up. Columbia suprised people as to how much survived. A stainless craft can't even begin to make a case for it. SpaceX has a lot of milestones to hit.

[@jannichi6431]

As always, Elon way out front! His 2025 is already a Great Leap Forward. New Year's Success to all TeXas Stars💖🌌

[@yoskarokuto3553]

hey! space-x your brother "artemis" will lands first mankind on the moon mission was delay to 2026-2027 where is radiation shield data sheet ? ( WHERE IS LANDER UNIT ? ) how landing on the moon with out lander ? WHERE IS PROTOTYPE ? HOW IT LOOK LIKE ? never see even 1 prototype ? not need docking test ? Will it be in time or not ? want to do " vertical landing " on moon with out " chopstick ? " if space-x ( with a ton of vertical landing test can't ) why artemis ( with out even 1 vertical landing test ) can ?

[@Creepy-Girl]

Starlink Stock public traded when though?

[@ronschlorff7089]

probably not until 2026, Elon is "in the govt" now, he does not need to have the "taint" of a Pelosi on him! ;D

[@stacysanders-w3e]

Hype E New Year. Space X.

[@O.S-v4y]

If the starship comes in slower would the rocket be less hot during atmosphere return?

[@GG_Gamer200]

It would be less hot but then the heat would stay for longer

[@Prokrusher5I7]

Never got why we tried colonizing mars before the moon. It’s closer, easier to get to, and has liveable confitions, it just lacks life

[@mollymillions5438]

Put the feul at the L3 LaGrange point. Not usefully for going to the Moon (but why would you anyway - we already know there is nothing there?).

[@jason_m_schmidt622]

Precisely. Only the ignorant militaries of the world want to go back to the moon so they can build nonsense on the moon to threaten our existence. Sick of humanity

[@PaulDale-og1lk]

When are they going to put in a life-support system for a crew of 10

[@jorgesolis7891]

Did you say..., V-2...?

[@ronschlorff7089]

maybe and maybe b-2, for block 2. Can't determine from audio!

[@bearlemley]

Name how many successful lunar landings where the ship was taller than the landing gear is wide please.

[@iMeatbag]

Comparing tiny landers made by novel teams to Starship and Super Heavy is kind of silly. Name how many orbital class rockets returning to the launch site there were before SpaceX did it. There's always room for a first.

[@amentco8445]

SpaceX isn't the only one attempting this. I'd believe they could do it more than anybody else seeing as they manage to land rockets on Earth that are taller than their landing legs.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

Well that's an n=1 comparison

[@Maddoktor2]

Way to compare apples to oranges, well done!

[@ronschlorff7089]

Yes, I don't like the tall skinny ones either. For example, I usually had short squatty wide girlfriends too. Less issues if things got " too bumpy in the landing area". ;D LOL

[@charlesjanyure918]

Loving this🎉

[@obrienortega6942]

I hope SpaceX IPO's in 2025...

[@JasonDamisch]

Fantasy Football. Starship delivers the remaining Bigelow Aerospace inflatable habs to Earth orbit.

[@anthonydolio8118]

Sounds promising.

[@i-love-space390]

What gets me is that SpaceX is building at least two more towers and a bunch of infrastructure to their launch facilities, while the government contractor cannot even stay within budget on a SINGLE new SLS transporter / launch pad. Legacy space has become incredibly inefficient over the last 40 years of fat and happy government contracts.

[@uvaldopequeno7409]

Wow 🎉

[@ColdWarSubSailor_-]

Nuclear Starship

[@mehtapramod23]

GREAT

[@MarcusRobertoSouza]

❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉ja quis fazer doutorado em haward❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@LunarNova-46]

What about me guys 🎉❤❤❤

[@anshujawla5176]

Nice!!!

[@InstinctHDx1]

so when do we get electro magnetic engines that dont need fuel and doesn burn the ship?

[@ankursahu269]

Please try big size electric rocket please sir please

[@mp6756]

Starship is a terrible shape for reentry, and the taller it gets, the worse it gets.

[@ronschlorff7089]

right, it looks cool, but this is not a 1950's sci fi movie. Apollo was heavily ridiculed and criticized for its "ugly squatty lunar lander", .....................which then landed and returned 6 times. : )

[@rcollas4795]

why cant spacex send a full booster ontop of a booster into orbit , so there is a booster full of fuel waiting for the piloted ship to join up . then the starship has a full booster to use to get to moon n back .the booster can be left in moons orbit while starship goes to moon surface then once finished on moon they reconnect to booster to get home .

[@GG_Gamer200]

Well then the weight will increase and it would require more fuel to travel the same distance

[@Maddoktor2]

One booster isn't enough to reach orbit, is why, that's why rockets are multi-staged.

[@tyrantfox7801]

The rocket equation does not take any prisoners

[@pr248]

Lots of fancy CGI videos of things happening doesn't mean that they will actually happen.

[@SterlingArchimedes]

It's classic Elon vaporware.

[@ronschlorff7089]

functionally the same "art" as long time ago when Hollywood animated films like at Disney studios did the "cartoons" of the proposed moon landings in the 1960's. It worked out ok then, it should be fine today with advanced CGI. LOL ;D

[@eva.alsoofi]

Bravo SpaceX 👍🚀🇺🇲👏👏

[@yongjianyi3556]

Noice!

[@alaskanight940]

Not a mass simulator, CALL ELON ❤CYBERTRUCK TO THE MOON❤ First Cyber Truck Luna Edition Maybe a small library ... Preserved Forever !!!

[@alaskanight940]

Throw on solar cells and a radio. Make it so #1. 😊

[@Superdave337]

THESE IDEAS SEEM SO COMPLICATED DANGEROUS COSTLY AND OLD 1940S TECH

[@miller2675]

I am glad that people are FINALLY making the distiction between what SPACEX's engineers and fabricators have achieved instead of givng credit to Musk.

[@billweberx]

Without Musk, there is no SpaceX.

[@ErenAlpErtem]

​@billweberx without your parents, no you, does that mean everything you do should be attributed to them

[@syk420zz]

@@ErenAlpErtem 🤦‍♀

[@ErenAlpErtem]

@syk420zz What, disproving someone's logic by presenting a logical extension of that logic is face palm worthy now? Like wdym 🤦‍♂️

[@billweberx]

@@ErenAlpErtem Let me be more explicit for those who can't figure this out. Musk is the driver for innovation at all his companies. Without him, the companies would continue on, but without the constant push for innovation. Very similar to Apple. When Jobs passed, Apple's valuations did great but what mind-blowing innovations have they done? None.

[@tylerstoakes4940]

Anyone ever hear of a Russian rocket guy named Yuri Kondratyuk?

[@ronschlorff7089]

No, details please!

[@TerryWhite-b2h]

I would be careful in underestimating a first principles physics thinker. If you're able to start bringing fuel to a Starship, that's already in orbit. As the Starship, that's in orbit reaches the right amount of fuel to refuel the one that is going to Mars. Then, that Starship can collect the fuel from the one that's already in orbit and give it a full tank of fuel to go to Mars. If you also have a Starship that can go to the moon and start making fuel on the moon, a Starship can go to a lunar orbit, refuel and go to Mars. The moons gravity is less so if we manufacture or launch Starships from the moon this will use less fuel and create less costs.

[@stanleybest8833]

C'mon. An analog satellite or a bunch of them. No cement.

[@Namaskar_Doston]

Also 2026 mars landing

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

The Americans have a completed lunar lander that they are putting into permanent storage so they can land a concrete block on the moon instead. Why does this surprise no one?

[@nooneyouknow9399]

Rather than on-orbit refueling, drop mass instead of keeping it. We landed men on the moon by shedding mass. The original concept was much like Starship. Engineering explained Physics and Apollo was the result.

[@filthyscorpion]

True but dropping mass when you're basically out of fuel wouldn't get the job done since they need almost all their fuel to get into orbit

[@daniel4412]

Well there goes your reusability

[@SterlingArchimedes]

​@daniel4412 7 starship launches and so far only one booster might be reused...

[@nooneyouknow9399]

@@daniel4412 The KISS principle is hard to ignore. It’s crazy to keep all that mass with you. Adds complexity which adds risk. Falcon 9 occasionally is not recovered when a heavy payload is lofted. Physics is a cruel and unforgiving beast. Build a larger booster, and now you need more fuel to lift it, so add more engines, which add weight and fuel consumption… so add more fuel… there is no free lunch.

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@nooneyouknow9399 yup, they called it the "water balloon" effect, squeeze one end, the other end grows!

[@MarcusRobertoSouza]

❤❤❤❤❤sou astrólogo do Brasil.❤❤❤❤❤

[@jannichi6431]

No worries. Elon is getting what needs and wants for StarBase and future endevors.