Anakin & Luke Skywalker | Who Is Truly More Powerful - IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS

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@allnamesaretakenful
@allnamesaretakenful 2 жыл бұрын
I think part of why Luke is so powerful in Legends is because he is mostly self-taught, and doesn't think something is impossible, because no Jedi is telling him that it can't be done. He achieves things thought to be impossible because he stopped thinking things were impossible.
@diallo1347
@diallo1347 2 жыл бұрын
That was the main lesson Yoda taught him. " Do or do not, there is no try" Yoda "I don't believe it!" Luke "That is why you failed" Yoda Luke was taught there was no limit to the force, while Anakin was always restricted .
@mewtwo389
@mewtwo389 2 жыл бұрын
He was also the jedi’s last hail mary attempt to stop the sith. No doubt yoda taught luke everything he can with the time allowed because there was no sense keeping knowledge from who might just be their last hope
@mikeoxlong6351
@mikeoxlong6351 2 жыл бұрын
Luke is more powerful because he surpasses any shortcomings his father had, like being easily consumed by emotion and the high-ground...
@thelokiway4478
@thelokiway4478 2 жыл бұрын
@@mewtwo389 I believe it wasn't the Jedi's last chance, the whole time it is the force. Jedi are (for the most part) willing servants of the force. Sith/Dark Jedi believe they bend force to their will but (again), I believe they are also unknowing slaves to it. Whenever one side of the force grows too strong or has "cleared the galaxy" of the opposing side, the force will create one who can at least begin to return the itself back to balance. I also think that the Force operates at close to a galactic time scale.
@cerostar1993
@cerostar1993 2 жыл бұрын
Only in legend
@lonesnip3rwolf
@lonesnip3rwolf 2 жыл бұрын
George said Luke and Anakin had the same potential but because of his injuries he could never reach his full potential. George said because of this Luke not only became more powerful but he also became the most powerful force user to have ever existed.
@Timshady1986
@Timshady1986 2 жыл бұрын
Luke honestly should be considered more powerful, even in canon. My reasoning behind this, is because Anakin had actual masters and years of training. Where as Luke only had Obi Wan partially and Yoda. But had to learn on his own and face the strongest dark side force user ever, and the Emperor.
@stephanlasley5781
@stephanlasley5781 2 жыл бұрын
The emperor is considered the most powerful. Tho I’m on the side of other sith users from old being more powerful. Nihilis, SION, vitiate.
@karlanthony210
@karlanthony210 2 жыл бұрын
That’s somewhat fair. But the reverse is that since Luke didn’t have anyone training him like that for years, he also didn’t have a bunch of people telling him what he can and can’t do and holding him back the same way anakin did. Just something to think about
@Redoren966
@Redoren966 2 жыл бұрын
Vader is vastly weaker than dooku
@jamesbah2561
@jamesbah2561 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redoren966 I dont believe that you believe that lol
@Redoren966
@Redoren966 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbah2561 Tell that to George Lucas
@christopheraaron8299
@christopheraaron8299 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that's never discussed is the traits Luke and Leia inherited from their mother, Padme. They're always only ever compared to their father. Padme gave them compassion and cooler heads than Anakin had. I think her traits suppressed the inner rage that Anakin experienced.
@ninjettifire
@ninjettifire 2 жыл бұрын
I like your point. I think there is merit to it. Thank you for posting it.
@Kevin-jb2pv
@Kevin-jb2pv 2 жыл бұрын
In Obi Wan they even went out of their way to point this out, so I think you were ahead of the curve on this one.
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 Жыл бұрын
Luke's mother was never a slave that was tortured to death while the Jedi did nothing and told you to quit crying about it.
@christopheraaron8299
@christopheraaron8299 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Black_Sheep94 The Empire murdered his aunt and uncle, who were like his parents.
@estherfu6288
@estherfu6288 5 ай бұрын
Yes!!! It's a shame that Padme gets overlooked in the greater scope of things. I wish people gave her more credit.
@theimperialist2686
@theimperialist2686 2 жыл бұрын
Had Anakin not been chopped up and burnt, he would have become a god like being with his connection to the force.
@jimtaylor527
@jimtaylor527 2 жыл бұрын
Not canon reason. It doesn't affect force connection.
@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862
@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862 2 жыл бұрын
their potential was actually the same "Lucas stated that Anakin had the potential to be twice as powerful as Palpatine. He also stated that Luke had the same potential and would be what Anakin couldn't because of the injuries from Kenobi" - 25 Aug 2018
@jimtaylor527
@jimtaylor527 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862 knowing George rolls with it does in fact dampen your connection to the force got to roll with that but I do like the other side too where it doesn't affect your potential with the force but also see how it very much obviously would
@FatT45
@FatT45 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you for stating the obvious; before Lucas ever confirmed it, I always thought reading the books 20 years ago that Anakin got handicapped with his loss to Kenobi.
@jimtaylor527
@jimtaylor527 2 жыл бұрын
@@FatT45 Disney tryna say it doesn't matter anymore and that vader handicapped himself mentally with his depression and fixation on his failures and only having sidious left. Which tbh I like cuz it means he technically still could have been the most op mofo and could have taken sidious if he didn't handicap himself
@eddybare3921
@eddybare3921 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin had the potential to be the most powerful being ever in the galaxy but fell short. Luke was able to reach his full potential and therefore having a greater use of the force.
@miletello1
@miletello1 2 жыл бұрын
This
@SJ-yf9xy
@SJ-yf9xy 2 жыл бұрын
And after emperor died in ROTJ, he officially became the most powerful force user in the entire galaxy. (We don't count rey, sequels are not cannon for us, incase some fanboy has to debate on that)
@dominickwimmer9561
@dominickwimmer9561 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin falling short is the worst thing about the entire Star Wars for me personally.
@mjbset93
@mjbset93 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin was never balanced. Anakin is 1970s untuned Ferrari with NOS. Luke is brand new Bugatti tuned and setup to run 24 hours at Le Mans.
@dominickwimmer9561
@dominickwimmer9561 2 жыл бұрын
@@mjbset93 no no annnnnnd no
@GTSFANDM
@GTSFANDM 2 жыл бұрын
They're BOTH badasses. Shame Rey Palpatine had to render all they ever accomplished meaningless...
@ethan-scott
@ethan-scott 2 жыл бұрын
I view it a little differently than that. I think it's a little more complicated that you make it sound. But I've learned never to share any alternate opinions in regards to the sequel trilogy. People are very, very sensitive about it.
@GTSFANDM
@GTSFANDM 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethan-scott The thing is, if they had made it be a thousand or even a few hundred years AFTER the defeat of the Empire, and DIDN'T decide to revive Palpatine, they could have gotten away with so much more. The fact that they made it a few decades after and brought Sidious back are part of why people are upset about the sequel trilogy.
@Dragondan1987
@Dragondan1987 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, well at least the EU is still out there. So you can still read the better version of star wars.
@GTSFANDM
@GTSFANDM 2 жыл бұрын
I know. Thankfully, that's the case and the EU exists.
@damienkilcannonvryce
@damienkilcannonvryce 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s that. As far as my “Head-canon” is concerned, there is no Rey.
@diallo1347
@diallo1347 2 жыл бұрын
I vote Luke. His understanding of the force was far more complete. So much so that he could use all force abilities and not turn to the dark side.
@lukeoneill513
@lukeoneill513 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the ultimate tell tale sign that Luke obtained ultimate mastery over the force. It’s unquestionable to me.
@H-TownGamer
@H-TownGamer 9 ай бұрын
Agree
@darienschnucker7354
@darienschnucker7354 2 жыл бұрын
Legends will always be the true canon.
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 4 ай бұрын
Truth!
@staroceans8677
@staroceans8677 2 жыл бұрын
Without question Luke is superior because he's noble and more universal in his thinking and caring. There's strength in nobility and humility and Luke was not selfish...where his unselfish nature saved both Anakin and Luke.
@thebigphilbowski
@thebigphilbowski 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like there is nothing wrong with a slave resenting their master. Let's not forget Anakin was a slave his entire life, from his days with Watto, to being emotionally abused by his masters at the Jedi Temple and everything with Palpatine. The guy never had a chance. Luke at least grew up and spent his formative years in a loving environment.
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 4 ай бұрын
No doubt. And Anakin’s experience as a slave left him emotionally stunted, impulsive and angry. Luke basically grew up in a working class household. His fam wasn’t rich but it was healthy and stable. He also inherited a lot of Padme’s personality traits. Padme was a rich kid, straight up, but she was never afflicted with affluenza. She was genuinely selfless, warm, compassionate & patient. And she didn’t regard her royal and political obligations as a burden. Temperamentally speaking, I think Luke takes after his mother more than his sister does. Not shitting on Leia, btw. Leia’s awesome, but she’s got a much shorter temper than Luke.
@andrewtuttle9682
@andrewtuttle9682 2 жыл бұрын
When Luke Jumps on the platform in ROTJ Luke: "It's over, father! I have the high ground!" Vader: "I'm not falling for that one again, you little shit!" *Throws Lightsaber*
@donectandemperveniamincael1783
@donectandemperveniamincael1783 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin set someone on fire with the force🔥 as a young padawan with his mind!! Kenobi definitely had his hands full….
@anthonygibby8162
@anthonygibby8162 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so great vid btw I definitely agree with all the points you made. But if Luke And Anakin we’re to duel one another I feel like Luke would come out on top. Not because he was more powerful, but because of being level headed unlike Anakin who was more brash. Another thing to add if Anakin was fighting for someone say for example Padme or Obi Wan his anger would most likely over power and overwhelm Luke. Similarly how we saw in Return of the Jedi how Luke used his anger to defeat Vader. However he was able to come back and maintain in the light. It is important to note Anakin had way more potential then Luke being the chosen one and many people think it was Luke, but I’m reality it was Anakin because he did in the end bring balance to the force. But aside from that if Anakin were to meet his full potential he would beat legends Luke no contest being the chosen one.
@michaelcousins2526
@michaelcousins2526 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Master Luke at his full potential VS Palps in ROTJ Cannon and legends.
@Facade953
@Facade953 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Master Luke. He even defeated young Palpatine at his prime in their second duel.
@katiepersons6575
@katiepersons6575 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin had even more potential than Luke, but Luke lived up to nearly all of his while Anakin lived up to less than half.
@jerryhickin9551
@jerryhickin9551 2 жыл бұрын
They had equal potential. George Lucas has said as much. There are interviews where he references this. Luke and Leia were the Force having a redundancy because of Anakin's darkening nature and mindset. Much the same way Anakin was actually a reaction to Plagueis trying to play God through manipulating midichlorians.
@Facade953
@Facade953 2 жыл бұрын
Sophitia Alexandra RULES!😀
@kyledaniels9519
@kyledaniels9519 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryhickin9551 yes but no. Anakin had more midiclorians, that’s a fact. That said, Luke reached the potential anakin could have gotten making him more powerful. Personally, If both were at full potential power I’d bet on anakin winning, but they are both so gifted and close it’s honestly not worth arguing/ comparing
@blondie214
@blondie214 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyledaniels9519 No it’s a fact according to Lucas that Luke and Anakin were equal in potential. He was what Anakin failed to be. Even if they both lived up to their full potential, Luke would still win due to his traits he got from Padme which allowed him to be much more level headed than Anakin
@PLUTOXGOAT
@PLUTOXGOAT Жыл бұрын
Anakin lived up to 60% of his full potential
@likeluptid
@likeluptid 2 жыл бұрын
I can answer that without even watching the video. The disabled war veteran whose very close association with so many other Jedi exposed him to the unique perspectives, wisdoms, and techniques that he no doubt added to his own repertoire. Anakin was already proficient with the Force some 14 years before Luke was even born. His experience in war and association among his peers is monolithic in size, compared to anything Luke can dream of. And he let Luke know that in Empire Strikes Back when he did to Luke exactly what Dooku had earlier done to him, to Anakin. Anakin lost a lot when lost his legs and arm, and he's nothing at all as Vader as he was as Anakin. But he's still much more experienced and wiser with the Force than Luke, except for that mistaken thinking that the Darkside makes you stronger. Luke would never stand a chance.
@luvmarr7224
@luvmarr7224 2 жыл бұрын
his list of limbs didn’t affect his connection with the force or potential it was being burned and the suit has to wear
@likeluptid
@likeluptid 2 жыл бұрын
@@luvmarr7224 According to George Lucas, and I HEARD him say it, Anakin's connection to the Force diminished the moment his limbs were amputated. Besides the fact that he very directly says it, it's very much implied in the very first Episode, "The Phantom Menace," that mitichlorians exist in all life forms, and machines are not alive. Bionic limbs have no life. That's logic easy to a 6-year-old.
@eternaltruth1666
@eternaltruth1666 2 жыл бұрын
I think its worth mentioning that originally it was the force, there was no difference between light and darkness. The schools of the sith and jedi should combine to take the best from both sides and integrate them into one school of force wielders. That is where balance is found in the force.
@CreamDollYT
@CreamDollYT 2 жыл бұрын
Me and one of my older brothers had this type of disagreement over who's stronger. I will show this to him
@emilyg1239
@emilyg1239 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you put out excellent comparative and breakdown videos and that was super informative for me
@hiroshi4978
@hiroshi4978 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could read Legends. I keep seeing videos about them but I don't know where to actually read them other than buying the comics
@HM-xt7bf
@HM-xt7bf 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone suggesting that Anakin was more powerful, from a Midichlorians standpoint maybe (yet, they nearly had similar M points, some theories even claim: even), but since Anakin does not have the complete focus for peace and comfort for everybody, would give Luke always the edge because the Force assists those for the greater good than the opponent. Luke would spark Light side Force energy and overcome any opponent. He mastered all techniques and gained all the wisdom of the Jedi, and even revolutionised certain basis of the Jedi (which corrupted the Jedi Counsel).
@patriciahayes7315
@patriciahayes7315 2 жыл бұрын
Someone should write a story where Jedi Luke goes back in time and fights alongside Jedi Anakin. Both would be equals in their use of the Force. Of course neither can know who the other really is. :)
@anthonyc7635
@anthonyc7635 2 жыл бұрын
In not winning if you feel you deserve something, or if you simply cannot do it
@patrickmcdonald8513
@patrickmcdonald8513 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@samuellustig4214
@samuellustig4214 2 жыл бұрын
According to George lucas they have the same force potential, I personally think luke would have the upper hand, because of his humility and his eagerness to learn. Let's not forget lukes oneness with the force which anakin would never be able to reach with his past, growing up as a slave, get taken away from your mother, getting enslaved by the jedi council.
@epicgamerman7360
@epicgamerman7360 2 жыл бұрын
There is no “analysing” the fact is IF and again that’s IF so this is based on fact, anakin is a being of the force. Luke being his son makes him extremely strong, but anakin is made of pure midichlorians he is quite literally able to see the future… nothing is stopping full potential anakin
@cameronneal932
@cameronneal932 2 жыл бұрын
They built Anakin up so much but still kept knocking him down it was a constant 50/50 feeling
@thedokkodoka4349
@thedokkodoka4349 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video.
@JustinEmlay
@JustinEmlay 2 жыл бұрын
Who needs to see this video? There is no question here.
@eds1942
@eds1942 2 жыл бұрын
About the Throne Room scene in Return of the Jedi. Too many water down this duel. Both Anakin and Luke were conflicted. The thing was that Vader had to suppress his true feelings from the Emperor, which meant that he could not draw as strongly from the Darkside. Suppressing that some of Anakin, the Lightside and his love for family still existed within him. While Luke was often visibly an emotional basket case, which allowed him to pull strength variously from both the Lightside and the Darkside. Which ultimately enabled him to defeat Vader in combat. Both believed that they knew going in that the goal of the other was to turn the them to their side and then defeat the Emperor. But both feared the repercussions if the miscalculated each other or the Emperor’s retaliation. And aside from his life (it’s lose would have been a release from this orment) and station of power, Vader only had his son to lose, while it has been plainly obvious to everyone who’s ever seen the movie everything that Luke feared to lose since the movie’s original release. Ultimately, the pressure was higher for Luke, than Vader.
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 2 жыл бұрын
also if there is a star wars reboot do you think there will be a anakin skywalker full potential in the reboot and also star wars canon luke will become more powerful just wait
@Sinspiration
@Sinspiration 2 жыл бұрын
The Force and it's whole 'trying to balance things' seems like it's a demented pendulum that can only over-correct every time.
@Axzuin
@Axzuin 2 жыл бұрын
In both legends and canon I'd say Luke was more powerful, more skilled, and a better person. However if Anikin hadn't been injured by Obi-Wan shortly after becoming Darth Vader I definitely think Darth Vader (uninjured) would have been more powerful in the force and a better fighter than Luke. It would be interesting to see a what if scenario though because if a few things changed it could change everything. Who knows what a more powerful Darth Vader would inspire Luke to achieve. They might have even just become more powerful equals.
@DAK_11
@DAK_11 2 жыл бұрын
I think Luke was more inclined in the force later in life, however if you take ROTS Anakin v ROTJ Luke and let them 1v1. Anakin wins, easily. Anakin was much more battle tested, literally carried the republic on his back during the clone wars. Saved Obi Wan 9 times from death. Killed a Sith Lord in Dooku. Straight abused Dooku. Anakin had the potential to be a force God. And he was rivaling Yoda as a padawan in Attack of the clones with his saber combat.
@darkmessiah9566
@darkmessiah9566 2 жыл бұрын
Lol he never "rivaled" Yoda in lightsaber combat, where are you getting this shit from?
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin never rivaled Yoda as a duelist until Revenge of The Sith. And even then I'm skeptical.
@DAK_11
@DAK_11 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyimjoshnicetomeetya kenobi literally told Anakin in attack of the clones if he’d focus more he’d already rival yoda, when Anakin was a Padawan.
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya 2 жыл бұрын
@@DAK_11 I mean you can compare how they each did against Dooku. Yes, Anakin managed to give Dooku a pretty serious fight, but Yoda was the one who managed to beat him
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya
@heyimjoshnicetomeetya 2 жыл бұрын
@@DAK_11 He didn’t rival him by any means, but he was getting to Council member tier duelist as a Padawan, that much is true
@N1co777
@N1co777 2 жыл бұрын
Darkness is the absence of light and cannot exist where light is present
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader 2 жыл бұрын
ORDER 66
@DaBeastly6669
@DaBeastly6669 2 жыл бұрын
The Jedi thought somethings to be impossible and when that though infects you’re teachings it’s becomes stagnant. So when someone grows outside those teachings they realize much more is possible. They wouldn’t know where the ceiling is so they keep pushing.
@eod8114
@eod8114 2 жыл бұрын
we all know size does not matter (Yoda). If you are the chosen one you will be able to overcome anything.
@ELSAEDITSYT
@ELSAEDITSYT Жыл бұрын
anakin was definietly the most powerful one in fp even when young he outforced most of the jedis and sith in force power so anakin and the fact he wants more power than anyone else to grow beyond the limits of force power and the order and was a very skilled lightsaber combatant and commander and his rage mide him tryly powerful
@BrushworkNL
@BrushworkNL 2 жыл бұрын
Yoda trained him in ways he would never have trained other Jedi, At that stage of his life Yoda was the "Fuck it" stage of being an elder
@A_Black_Sheep94
@A_Black_Sheep94 Жыл бұрын
11:20 Her face 🤣 she knew she done goofed up.
@FullRamenAlch3mist
@FullRamenAlch3mist 2 жыл бұрын
@1:25 I thought it was 80% of the Emperor's strength, not his own potential
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 4 ай бұрын
You are correct.
@Tyrael1701
@Tyrael1701 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin had 100% more potential but it was all burned away after his duel with Obi. After a few short years he was able to beat his dad with only basic training from two masters and reading Obi's journal. In legends only Abeloth was vastly more powerful.
@lukaz1034
@lukaz1034 2 жыл бұрын
I choose Anakin. His growth was incredible, during his Jedi training. Plus he had immense experience as one of the most accomplished generals during Clone Wars. Was also very skilled with lightsaber, at the end of Clone Wars only Yoda, Windu and Kenobi (questionable, given that in their fight on Mustafar Vader defeated himself because he wasn't concentrated and was too impatient-had he been more patient he would eventually shatter Kenobi's defenses no doubt about it). One novel even stated that the Force was so strong in Anakin that he, when meditating, would feel the Force burning inside him hot as the sun and he simply couldn't control it, thus he focused more on psychical aspects of the Force). If Qui Gon trained Anakin, I honestly think that he would reach his full potential, and would be able to beat Yoda and Sidious simultaneously.
@SerEthan
@SerEthan 2 жыл бұрын
“Anakin is better on combat than Luke” Anakin was literally born into war and continued to live a violent war filled life
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 2 жыл бұрын
Luke would’ve been around 19-20 when he started his training
@DavBotsArcade
@DavBotsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin vs Dale Gribble, Dale wins with POCKETSAND! SHISHISHISHAHHH.
@CaptainMarkk1
@CaptainMarkk1 2 жыл бұрын
Id say Luke's power is also complimented by his ability to tap the dark side but not be turned.
@cupandbowl
@cupandbowl 2 жыл бұрын
When Disney had announced episode 7 I thought they would pick up with the story’s already told I hate that they made up their own and also made all other planned books and stuff be canceled
@randombros8935
@randombros8935 2 жыл бұрын
hard to say like father like son one full of compassion the other is not
@iangates8694
@iangates8694 2 жыл бұрын
Recommend you reconsider your use of the word "prodigal" when describing Luke Skywalker as the "prodigal son". Prodigal does not mean unknown. It means "wasteful", like the Biblical son who squandered his father's wealth (running away to a foreign country was just him getting to a place where he could engage in "wild living" a la Los Vegas. I would describe Vader as the "prodigal father" who squandered his gifts, but was forgiven and redeemed by a righteous son.
@ChanceTM
@ChanceTM 2 жыл бұрын
You have 'The Voice''. 😎
@Zapatozi
@Zapatozi 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker was born to the most of powerful Jedi. He is literally the son of force. The thing is, he chose a path that lead him to his own destruction and he failed to attain his maximum potential. He lost his arm in Attack of Clones. Then he got burnt in Revenge of the Sith. Many of his force abilities were lost and he couldn't become as powerful as he was supposed to be. Even the Emperor knew that Anakin Skywalker would become more powerful than him if he hadn't lost many of his force abilities. Luke Skywalker, son of Anakin Skywalker, inherited many of Anakin's force powers, but his max potential was nowhere close to Anakin's max potential (when he wasn't injured). Luke managed to reach his max potential without many injuries and he became more powerful than Anakin because of how damaged Anakin was.
@notfresh9392
@notfresh9392 2 жыл бұрын
I mean George Lucas said they both had the same potential, so I think Luke full potential is Anakin except Anakin might have the upper hand by a little bit
@luvmarr7224
@luvmarr7224 2 жыл бұрын
he didn’t lose force ability bc if his lost of limbs tho, it’s the suit he has to wear
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 4 ай бұрын
@@luvmarr7224Anakin DID lose a lot of his potential due to the severity of his injuries. There was game a mechanic in the WotC d20 Star Wars RPG for determining penalties to Force powers for characters that had become more machine than man. I don’t think they would have included it if Lucas hadn’t clearly stated that after Mustafar Anakin’s physical trauma had reduced his raw potential from twice that of Palpatine’s (I’m quoting George Lucas here-Don’t shoot the messenger) to about 80% of the Emperor’s. There was definitely a correlation between relative bodily integrity & Force potential. I thought the game mechanic was a little too reductionist. Force-sensitive characters with cybernetic bits took a hit to skill checks on Force Powers for every robot bit they added. I think the max penalty was -8. That’s probably too reductive but it did seem pretty clear both in canon & in legends that being “more machine than man” hindered one’s Force capabilities. My sense/take was that prosthetics usually interfere more with Light Side powers than neutral & Dark Side powers, broadly speaking. Darth Maul’s Force powers, for instance, didn’t appear to be depleted at all after Mother Talzin gave him a makeover after he’d become half the man he used to be. It probably helped that Maul’s Force skills weren’t all that sophisticated for the mover part
@googesowders2758
@googesowders2758 2 жыл бұрын
There is a reason Ankin saber was only blue while Luke's made saber was Green . Luke looked to the force for all it's value. I'm thinking Padme's DNA added to him . In emotion , reasoning and intelligence.
@jaredbanister6880
@jaredbanister6880 2 жыл бұрын
Vaders main strength is his hatred but he could not hate Luke the last reminder of Padme he had.
@talentlessbird3572
@talentlessbird3572 2 жыл бұрын
You answered it, Anakin. He is more combat knowledgeable and more skilled with a Saber.
@kk-mc4sj
@kk-mc4sj Жыл бұрын
If Qui-Gon Jinn we’re there to train him, Anakin would’ve been the greatest Jedi .
@baldrian22
@baldrian22 2 жыл бұрын
its a good question, but when it comes to using the force luke beats ankien no question asked, i can think of one instance aniken is on the same lvl or beats luke and that is during the son and daughter stuff on mortes. but other than that luke wins no question asked. we see in some books how stronge luke is in the force, he trickst jason solo (darth caides at that point) with his illusion and caides was a realy powerfull sith lord, and he had no idea AT ALL that he was beeing tricked by luke at that point. another example is afther learning walking beyond shadow while luke and ben is ambushed by the sith, luke is at that point weakend from beeing beyond shadow for so long, but are still able to fight the strick team, exampels from a luke thats like 20 years younger than this to is during the radioshow/books that is set afther the thron triology where he is able to use the force to stop whats sounds like some realy tall walkers, and if i dont remember wrong also able to use the force to get a star destroyer to crash in a safe way that dident kill all the people onbord him and lando beeing onbord of it. and ofc it is the dark holl mentioned in this video.
@d3m1g0d4
@d3m1g0d4 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between Luke & Anakin is Luke is more like mother Padme, and so has her brain and thinking
@albertoe8740
@albertoe8740 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but I think the period between Ep5 and Ep6 is one year not two.
@LaneBassingthwaite
@LaneBassingthwaite 2 жыл бұрын
Luke was a true Jedi through and through. However Anakin was more powerful. If he had reached his full potential he would have become almost godlike. Anakin was selfish and chose to fight for the happiness of himself and those close to him rather than look at the bigger picture whereas Luke obviously cared but always put the galaxy first. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Anakin hadn’t betrayed the Jedi order or fell to the dark side. Maybe he could have even saved the order. Who knows?
@seabear347
@seabear347 Жыл бұрын
Anakin hands down, force sensitivity and duel wise. Greatest what if in star wars is what anakin would be like if he achieved his full potential. Which I think I've heard Lucas have said is like a force God. If youve seen the animated clone wars this wouldn't even be a debate. Anakin is HIM and Luke is HE, protégé of HIM.(credit to that tiktoker Tommy something for this line 😂✌️)
@djb9267
@djb9267 Жыл бұрын
Luke is far stronger than anakin.
@justdavedoindavestuff3479
@justdavedoindavestuff3479 2 жыл бұрын
Emerald lightning: Jedi taser
@trentreffner5699
@trentreffner5699 10 ай бұрын
How the hell is someone going to cause a black hole to close in on itself? That's like me saying I'm going to throw a hole down another hole.... shit makes so little since I can't even visualize it... It's like passing a portal through another portal...
@patrickbowers8359
@patrickbowers8359 2 жыл бұрын
Luke was unrefined swinging the Saber like a baseball bat
@gatorhawk7167
@gatorhawk7167 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to be uncommon knowledge that in episode 6, Luke was also holding back against Vader. Until he went berserk.
@90s-h7l
@90s-h7l Жыл бұрын
Lmfao, NO. Vader was holding back, and underestimated Luke, and it was his downfall.
@gatorhawk7167
@gatorhawk7167 Жыл бұрын
@@90s-h7l Lmfao, YES. I know Vader held back. Neither of them were fully committed to killing each other.
@bencarignan2711
@bencarignan2711 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin was born of the force and has the highest midichlorian count possible. Unfortunately, he lacks restraint. He is raw power with limited control. Luke possessed less raw power, but had much more control. We can thank Padme for that.
@bbro43
@bbro43 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, this is all legends based. Now granted both Legends and new Canon deviate from the original vision of George Lucas, Canon was created by Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni, who George choose to continue that legacy. Legends has always felt to me like fan fiction that was allowed because Lucas needed money. Where Canon has felt like George Lucas asking the two creators to continue his story (regardless of how well you feel Kennedy has done).
@Spectral_Thief10
@Spectral_Thief10 2 жыл бұрын
If Anakin reached his full potential, then he probably would have been able to force choke every Jedi that was hidden in the galaxy at the same time.
@isaiahfaux5674
@isaiahfaux5674 Жыл бұрын
Like you said if it wasn't for anakin foolish pride and fear he would win without question but Luke being humble and less arrogant makes him superior despite anakin having raw power.
@Xxandrew01
@Xxandrew01 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda hard to vote. On one hand Anakin was mad powerful in ROTS and TCW. So much so that Obi Wan had to run from him just to beat him. On the other hand Luke was no joke in ROTJ either. He clearly learned from his massive loss against Vader in ESB. So again...hard to vote. Both are power force users.
@meh5870
@meh5870 Жыл бұрын
nobody:... Anakin: *turns to the dark side* force: whoops, lemme fix this real quick-
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on if you are talking about Legends or Canon
@geemcfc
@geemcfc 2 жыл бұрын
Luke was ultimately more powerful This is because Anakin was essentially polarised. He was either light as Anakin or dark as Vader. Luke was more of a grey jedi because of this and able to draw on the passion for good without repercussion whereas Anakin's draw on his passion for love ultimately guided down the dark path and into absolutes.
@Degenevesting
@Degenevesting 2 жыл бұрын
Luke. Anakin is a cautionary tale, and my probably my favourite character because of his arc, but Luke is equally a favourite because of his. They are intertwined in their fate because Anakin bound them to it. Without his fall to darkness, he would never have been able to fulfill the prophecy. Equally, Luke could never have ultimately achieved what he did in the Force, or fix the Jedi had Anakin not effectively been a reset button.
@BWill341
@BWill341 4 ай бұрын
People always think the sith are more powerful but they always lose. The Jedis devotion and servitude gives them power. Anakin never learned that. Luke did. That’s what makes Luke stronger.
@wesleyneal7041
@wesleyneal7041 2 жыл бұрын
Potential is only the perceived utmost height one can obtain. In the discussion of potential and specifically in this case that of Anakin, even if he defeats Obi-Wan it is assumed that Anakin would continue to explore and reach his maximum potential. Now let’s say that Anakin does best Obi-Wan in battle and then goes on to beat Palpatine does he still push himself to his greatest limits. I am a child of the 70’s and watched a lot of basketball so I will pose it in an analogy this way does Anakin have the mindset of a Kobe Bryant? Does he continue to push his limits in a way that leads him to gain everything out of his talent or potential? Or is rather a Shaquille O’Neal who had far greater potential but once he slew his perceived dragons he begins to then coast. Anakin seems to be much more a natural Shaq. It was the taste of defeat to Obi-Wan that caused him to then explore the fullness of his now lessened potential. Luke I believe will always be superior because he never was supposed to be the guy. He had tons of physical potential while maybe not the full potential of his father… but copious natural potential and a mindset that in order to be on the level of others he had better make his mental monsters to practice to slay so that when those monsters showed their faces, he was on par or at least practiced enough to be able to continuously reach his next level of his natural potential. He had more inner drive than the “Chosen one” because he never was supposed to be close to that, yet had the latent potential and drive to be close and therefore maximized what he had.
@ben7510
@ben7510 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's Anakin .. He defeated Count Doku and Palpetine (though as Vader to save his son Luke).
@michaelobrien8493
@michaelobrien8493 2 жыл бұрын
Content doesn't start till 3 minutes in, if you're trying to fill time then fill it with something useful.
@Parocha
@Parocha 2 жыл бұрын
Neither Luke nor Anakin hold a candle to the raw power of a Gonk Droid with the High Ground! Maybe if they ganged up on him with Leia into the mix might they have a reasonable chance of putting up a fight.
@seventyfourty
@seventyfourty 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think Luke is more powerful because in the comics his variant of force speed is basically just slow motion giving him better reaction time
@kelerosdk6599
@kelerosdk6599 Жыл бұрын
Anakin lost much more than 20% of his potential when he got cut down on Mustafar. His potential got reduced to 80% of Sidius, Anakin's full potential was maybe 150%-200% of Sidius
@magnis380
@magnis380 2 жыл бұрын
Luke's oneness with for Force; and his freedom from rules and regulations vs Anakin with raw power, yet weighed down by rules and restrictions...Luke all day!!!
@TayNewNerd
@TayNewNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody noticed they look alike when there mid age
@LyricalXilence
@LyricalXilence 2 жыл бұрын
You know what, this video makes me feel sorry for Leia. Such a Jedi afterthought.
@anthonyvogel9328
@anthonyvogel9328 2 жыл бұрын
I think Luke and Anika are the same strong. It's that Yoda advice was able to get to Luke and open his mind. Remember don't try. Do and can't do.
@brandonberger6181
@brandonberger6181 2 жыл бұрын
Luke’s “electric judgement” is not non lethal, it’s insta kill
@xTK421x
@xTK421x 2 жыл бұрын
WOAH BACK WOAH WOAH!!!!! You said Anakin destroyed the droid controll ship by himself. What about the saga's greatest hero R2-D2? Hello, this is not ok with me. I love your vids tho. Keep it up!
@eddiebravo2631
@eddiebravo2631 2 жыл бұрын
The prodigal son
@drgxiii
@drgxiii 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the force itself is what killed the jedi because they grew to big is interesting.
@mu2960
@mu2960 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin spent his developing years fighting. He is a better duelist. Luke spent his years training to be connected to the force. He is a better force wielder. If Anakin had spent his time connecting to the force like he did on Mortis, he would have been stronger. Instead he was destined to be a pawn to destroy the Jedi and Sith
@marardehi
@marardehi 2 жыл бұрын
Their potential are same and Luke is more of a fast and better learner (Luke managed to beat Darth Vader in the age of 23 and Darth Vader was not holding back) so therefore, Luke Skywalker is the better one. "Luke's and Anakin's potential are same." ~ George Lucas "On the death star, father and son grimly clash! Brutally, aggressively, Darth Vader brings his full strength and power against the younger man. But unlike the first time they dueled in the cloud city, this is a battle of equals. The young Jedi has grown in the interim." ~ ROTJ Comic Novel (Legends)
@stevenmcanales3813
@stevenmcanales3813 2 ай бұрын
I think Luke is more powerful. 1. Unlike Anakin, he took to heart one important lesson from Yoda, when Yoda saved his X-Wing. Luke said, "I don't believe it ". Yoda replied,"that is why you failed". From a training stand, victory goes to Luke. Anakin, up until his defeat, spent, 14 years training with the Jedi and fighting in the Clone Wars. However, Luke was self-taught and did his training in only 3 years. The average Jedi took 18-20 years to complete training. However, the fact Luke did it in 3, makes him the most powerful Jedi ever
@googesowders2758
@googesowders2758 2 жыл бұрын
I believe force ⚡ was ok for Jedi to use but was held back due to ignorance. Perhaps one or two misused it or became arrogant.
@ilike8302
@ilike8302 2 жыл бұрын
In a battle one on one you have to say anakins lightsaber dueling is better. On the other hand Luke becomes more powerful without restrictions. That being said I think it would come down to lightsabers.
@Painted_Owl
@Painted_Owl 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, Luke is was Anakin could have been. Anakin was arrogant and was forced to deny the dark side as subject to destiny, while Luke was humble, and forged his own destiny by accepting both sides of the force Edit: typo
@ShawnCadieux1984
@ShawnCadieux1984 2 жыл бұрын
Disney screwed up by choosing to ignore everything legends has to offer
@Kevin-zz9du
@Kevin-zz9du 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what anyone says, it's 100% Anakin.... He has exponentially more first-hand experience, far more structured instruction and training, and he fought through and survived an entire war, while additionally dueling a sith lord and several dark side users. Luke got to duel Vader, who held back... lol Luke is working with scraps.
@IAmWBeard
@IAmWBeard 2 жыл бұрын
I always considered Luke to be about 19 or 20 at the beginning of episode 4.
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