You’re the first person on KZbin that made a video on RSJ thermal bridging, well done sir
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐I think its one of those areas that we are gong to start seeing more robust details on as we move our buildings thermal efficiency's forward🤔Thanks for your comments and for watching🤩Cheers Del
@johndavison39488 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show this. Handy tips
@thetallcarpenter8 күн бұрын
My pleasure JD🤩and thanks for taking the time to watch and comment👍Cheers Del
@liftfan28 ай бұрын
The standard way of welding that plate on is terrible for thermal bridging. What I did with my 6m opening was a steel goalpost with a separate galvanised lintel for the outer leaf. The two were separated by a 100mm "cavity" . I used compacfoam in the cavity all the way around ie. in the header and reveals. I lined the steel goalpost with timber (4 by 2), and the steel had been designed to take this into account. Then I used PIR internally around the head and reveals. The sliding door fitters fixed directly into the compacfoam. The result works well but it needed a bit of thinking ahead!
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐Your comment perfectly explains how the issues of thermal bridging can be virtually eradicated in with these large openings, BUT, as you say, it takes a degree of planning and financial commitment that most do not want to put themselves to🤔Great comment😎Cheers Del
@liftfan28 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter You are right. It was fine in my case as I wanted to demonstrate a better way, I did the work myself with no time pressure and it was my own place. Unless it’s a high end build there is no way it would make sense for the average builder as no one would pay the money for the marginal gains. BTW, I like your clever bit simple solution!
@tj51138 ай бұрын
Great idea. I’ve been staring at our exposed steel beams for months trying to think of a so,Union and this will be just the ticket! Thanks for sharing
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I think it will definitely add a reasonable amount of protection from the issues around cold bridging, and certainly better than what most people do, which is just stick plasterboard to the steel😬Thanks for your comment and for watching😎Cheers Del
@davedawson98518 ай бұрын
Eyup Del. I've got a meeting tomorrow morning with an architect about putting in a steel beam to create a very wide window in my new country crib. I was planning to ask some things about it including cold bridging so this video is bang on for me fella! I'll peruse the comments for wisdom. Cheers! Dave
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
That's great timing then Dave👍and my Building Control Officer knew very little about how to insulate beams like these😬This is definitely better than what's usually done, which is nothing😵Thanks for watching🤩
@hn95988 ай бұрын
We used to have this problem about 10 years ago when big openings like this were starting to become popular we found a solution that seems to eliminate thus but it does involve being a bit inventive and include the structural engineer without going on too much it involves stepping your reveals on the inner leave similar to how the original box sash windows were done to accommodate the weights this then allows to get more pir insulation and we use ply aswell before plasterboard as you know timber takes longer to absorb the cold. We effectively make our own cavity closers which is great for fixing where we now have big cavities. Also on the head detail it can be great if you want to integrate any blinds or curtain runners etc. It does require a bit of forward thinking but works well and of course the client might need deep pockets 😂 Sorry for waffling a bit I'm currently lying on a hospital bed on morphine after a back operation but thought it might offer a bit of help 👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@@hn9598 Morphine😵Hope its doing its job and you're not too uncomfortable🤞Great comment and solution to this problem, but like you say, everyone's got to be on board with a solution like that🤔Take it easy👍Cheers Del
@petestevenson37008 ай бұрын
Hi Del, good solution to the problem - i did something similar myself a while back. Im sure you know already but you can actually plaster straight over that type of backer board so no need for the extra layer of plasterboard unless you need the build-up to keep the reveal even all the way around the bifolds. Keep up the great videos.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Do you know what Pete🤔I was actually going to ask the plasterer if he could skim straight onto this board, and you've answered my question🤗I could actually now just fix/stick another layer of this board on and the reveals will be spot on plus I'll have 20mm of insulation instead of 10mm👊Thank you bud😎Cheers
@yanev77077 ай бұрын
The plaster board is most probably required for fire protection of the beam.
@cedarstuff8 ай бұрын
Short and sweet - videos like this which tackle a specific problem are great.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐Appreciate your comment bud and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@johnmorrissey16758 ай бұрын
Great to see you back Del , yep s real problem around doors and windows, cheers mate ☘️🇮🇪👍😁👋
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi John🖐Always great to have you watching bud🤩Cheers
@1_MartinFlanagan8 ай бұрын
Great attention to detail Del. Thanks for sharing.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
My pleasure Martin🤩Cheers Del
@johnwaby43218 ай бұрын
Nice to see you del ..that Looks a great idea on that steel beam 👍👍👍👍
@jimbartley91258 ай бұрын
A very sensible method to try and prevent a potential problem. Cheers. Jim
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment Jim🤩and it's got to make some difference even if only a little🤔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@charranjitsingh67428 ай бұрын
You know I’ve always wanted to know about that thermal bridging work, thank you for that big man, another well education video 🔥👍🤜
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hope you are well Charranjit🤞and thanks for watching 😎
@Excel5108 ай бұрын
Great to see you back Del
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Cheers Gary🤗Thanks for watching bud👍
@derekpbyrne8 ай бұрын
Great job Del ... perfect solution imo .... hope you feel better soon... I had a similar fall recently from the same type of ladder
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Del🖐It was such a silly fall bud, and I just needed to slow down a bit😵💫Cheers Del
@robertmorris52148 ай бұрын
Fantastic idea Del
@peterbell41548 ай бұрын
Nice Job Del Great way of over coming a common problem.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I'm sure it will help Peter👍Thanks for watching bud 😎 Cheers
@Rolandpgbrooks8 ай бұрын
Brilliant soloution, thankyou for taking the time to show us.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
My pleasure Roland🤩Thanks you for taking the time to watch😎Cheers Del
@TheNorthernmunky8 ай бұрын
I was wondering where you’d gon Del. Glad ya back and hope ya ribs feel better soon
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Ey up fella🤗Just been super busy bud😵Thanks for your kind comment😍Cheers
@timbolton22418 ай бұрын
Great to see you back . More please. You can get thermal backed plasterboard and cement sheet or aquapanel for outside but does the job. Also use use a self adhesive tape for between window head and beam that expanses to create thermal break .TAKE CARE. GET WELL SOON.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Tim🖐I have seen the tape you talk of, and its very good stuff👊As the next best thing, I left about an 8mm gap and filled it with expanding foam👍 Thanks for watching bud🤗Cheers Del
@darrenwayte39398 ай бұрын
Really helpful thanks I’m going to use the backer board solution for the lintel in my garage. I’ve had a new door fitted and this will tidy it up nicely .
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
That's awesome Darren🤩Get some stuck up there bud👊Cheers Del
@neil-mv3it8 ай бұрын
good to see you back del nice video
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Cheers Neil👍Its been a busy summer😵Thanks for your comment bud😎Cheers
@pat_link_8 ай бұрын
Hi Del, brilliant idea thanks for sharing
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Pat🖐Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@SteveAndAlexBuild8 ай бұрын
Excellent idea Del . The big hole big steel is so common 🤙🏾🤙🏾🧱👍🏽
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Steve🖐hope you are well bud🤞I know you guys have seen all sorts of horrors with sweating and rusty steels, and I'm sure cold bridging plays its part in there somewhere🤔See you soon😉Cheers
@dmcdonald75688 ай бұрын
I have always used insulated plasterboard but your way is much better thanks for posting the video
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐Its certainly less bulky that insulated plasterboard, but obviously not as efficient thermally👍Cheers Del
@michaelplays24498 ай бұрын
Great video Del !!
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Michael 😎
@LTWCarpentry8 ай бұрын
Another great video mate, never thought of using that stuff, I normally use a thin foil insulation but I won’t be anymore 👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐Its really useful stuff and I've used up the sides of dorma windows as well👍All the best bud😎Cheers del
@MrCassbren8 ай бұрын
VERY useful tip/solution. I have a couple of places in my own house where I could implement this "fix" 👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Brendan🖐It's got to be an improvement over nothing bud😉Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@Wattsjoinerybarn8 ай бұрын
Good solution for when 20mm celotex or thermal board won’t fit. I also hate the fact that thermal board are a pain if you only want a tiny bit. Those sts boards you are using a small enough to have on the job, great idea!
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hey there🖐Yes, you're right about these STS boards, although they are a little expensive from Wickes😬but I guess that's the price you pay for convenience🤔Thanks for your comment🤩Cheers Del
@garethjohnson93908 ай бұрын
Glad Your Back 😃😃😃
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Glad to be back Gareth🤩Cheers bud
@phillipgriffiths96244 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I have the same problem.
@thetallcarpenter4 ай бұрын
Hi Phillip🖐There have been some seriously cold days since this whole job has been finished, and there has been no condensation issues at the this beam, whatsoever👊Cheers Del
@karma31018 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm hoping to have some byfold doors fitted on an extension I'm planning, so will do the same. Thanks.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
It's got help Karma🤩Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@elliottlester747 ай бұрын
Great out the box thinking.
@thetallcarpenter7 ай бұрын
Cheers Elliot👍I have my moments🤩Cheers Del
@PooAAAA8 ай бұрын
I like it I will try it on our next job. One thing I do to mitigate it is to get my steel plate set back 40mm from the face brickwork and get my bricks pistoled. So the plate sits up and back. This means the window normally covers the plate on the outside too.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐I get what you're saying about the benefits of setting the steel back from the outside face work, its just that the structural engineers always seem to the bottom steel plate to go to only 10mm back from the face work🤔 Thanks for your comment bud🤩Cheers Del
@morganplatt67627 ай бұрын
Great idea pal👍
@thetallcarpenter7 ай бұрын
Cheers Morgan 😎 Thanks for watching
@paulfinnonjoinery8 ай бұрын
good idea del. have to remember that one. velux window openings good too. often see them just formed as a box rather than that way. thats the way the instructions actually state to do it also isnt it? good to see a vid from you mate its been a little while.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Paul🖐hope you are well bud🤞The insulation and air sealing of Velux windows is/has also changed, and I'm planning a quick video explaining this👍Cheers fella
@paulfinnonjoinery8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter I called up recently to a merchant’s in Gateshead as there was a velux day. But when I got there the heavens opened and the lads packed up 😂😂 so be a good video to watch as I might have a velux replacement job in the pipeline so be a good video to watch mate
@chriswild24588 ай бұрын
Great idea , tile backer of that type can be purchased in various thicknesses from tile suppliers ,which may be useful in different scenarios , also a foil backed plasterboard may be useful also
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
You're quite right Chris👊and foil backed plasterboard would stick nicely to this stuff👍Cheers Del
@sbanks2628 ай бұрын
Sounds like a horserace in the background 😂
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
You get first prize fella💰There's a racecourse near me and when the wind is in the right direction, the sound really carries🙉Cheers Del
@kevinhiggins3738 ай бұрын
Nice tip Del !
@thetallcarpenter7 ай бұрын
Cheers Kevin😎Thanks for watching bud
@micssticksnpipes8 ай бұрын
Fantastic idea! I would argue 2 layers is 1 hour fire break too. That stuff can be used outside too which would be good to insulate beam from outside. 👍🏽
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Henry🖐You're probably right bud, and the BCO wants pink plasterboard on there as well🤔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@BcMzRusT8 ай бұрын
What would you insulate the beam from the outside for?
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@@BcMzRusT Insulating the beam from the outside would be best as it stops any of it getting cold👍
@micssticksnpipes8 ай бұрын
In the ideal situation insulation is on the outside which reduces and temp differential and reduces risk of condensation. @@BcMzRusT
@jp69757 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter Interesting point about insulating the beam from the outside as well. I was thinking of doing that on my DIY garden room. I have loads of small offcuts of 100mm and 25mm PIR from when I did the insulated base and the warm roof. I didn't know if it was a sensible/overkill thing to do but I think I will certainly do it now before I fit the soffits. Thanks for this video - it's been VERY helpful.
@Pete.Ty18 ай бұрын
👍👍👍.Thanks Del
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
My pleasure🤩Thanks for watching
@cabottaxi8 ай бұрын
Used this stuff myself recently under a Belfast sink to give added protection to the kitchen carcass it was sitting on.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐When you actually look at it, you can see how it could be used for all sorts of things👊Thanks for your comment🤩Cheers Del
@amazing4518 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back again Del and your idea certainly seems to be popular. Did you have time to get a bet on while sorting this out. 😎😎
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin🖐No betting for me mate, as I always seem to lose😬Thanks, as always, for watching bud🤗Cheers
@Ultimate-roofing-square.8 ай бұрын
Nice and neat Del.. jumping off the ladder, 😳. I’ll do the stunt man stuff 🤣 👊🏻
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I'm waiting till the bruising comes out Dan, to see if I can 'Top Trump' yours😜Cheers fella
@Ultimate-roofing-square.8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter 😂💪🏻🤩
@TheToolnut7 ай бұрын
Outstanding T.C, another grear fix. Personally i'd use a gluelam beam, lighter, warmer and easier to fix to, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
@thetallcarpenter7 ай бұрын
Hi TN🖐hope you're well bud🤞I know what you're saying about a Glulam beam👊Cheers Del
@TheToolnut7 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter Morning T.C, you probably didn't have creative control on that job. That's similar to myself from time to time.
@thetallcarpenter7 ай бұрын
@@TheToolnut I never seem to have control of my jobs TN😵💫
@RobNorman088 ай бұрын
Most of the American Framing vids I watch here on KZbin, they hardly ever use steel beams, everything is done with Glum beams, for the life of me I don't know why we don't use more Glum here in the UK, I've used them on a handful of occasions and they are just a great alternative to the whacking great steels we constantly get spec'd!
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Rob🖐I guess that's because the way we build is fundamentally different to the guys in the US, and you're right though, some of the steels we put in now are crazy big😵Thanks for your comment🤩Cheers Del
@SeqhaelАй бұрын
Going to do this for my client
@thetallcarpenterАй бұрын
Hi there👍It has 100% worked on this job, with no sweating around the reveal, even on the coldest winter day😎Cheers Del
@nachobanditchannel8 ай бұрын
I heard when applying adhesive to the back of the board, if you do it in rings/circles rather then a zigzag it creates a better suction and holds better. I dont know how true or if its even necessary but i can see the logic behind it. Great video btw, Ive been trying to learn more about cold bridging around reveals
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐The logic is that as a ring of adhesive is 'squashed', it creates a vacuum pulling the 2 bonding surfaces together🤔In reality, any vacuum created will just draw in the adhesive due to its viscosity🙃Thanks for your comment and for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@WadPro7 ай бұрын
That's right, no air inside - no condensation.
@davecustance34235 ай бұрын
Cheers helpful dc
@thetallcarpenter5 ай бұрын
Just an update on this Dave. During the last cold snap of up to -6c there was NO condensation at the door frame head👍
@bikerchrisukk8 ай бұрын
I liked this, clever stuff using bathroom board for sure, normally you'd hope to use insulated plasterboard board, but it's chunky and is too thick to mechanical fix nicely. Fair play mate 👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐I agree that 38mm insulated plasterboard would be best here, but as you say, it's very thick and can overpower the frame reveal at the head🤔Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
@bikerchrisukk8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter No worries mate and completely agree (eek, a KZbin commenting agreeing!). Like you say, anything to keep the frame reveal even and consistent is helpful. I'm guessing you work in the South East may be? Cheers, Chris
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I'm based North of Cambridge👍
@bikerchrisukk8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter Ah, I was close - right country 🙂
@andrewbiggs37508 ай бұрын
I’ve popped a little PU glue between the backer board butt joints to help too.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
That reminds me Andrew🤔must get some PU glue to have on the van😁Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@adrianaosirish60658 ай бұрын
Tidy as always Del👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Cheers Adrian🤩
@djhago31238 ай бұрын
I put two 8x4 girders in so the cavity isn't bridged.. i don't see why engineers want big wide girders with a big ignorant plate welded on to get the width it's harder to fit aswell. Its madness... and i stick 25mm warm board around them anyway
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐I agree with you in most cases, but the wide bottom plate is used when there is either external face brick work, or in this instance, a roof pitched over it👍 As you suggest, I think we will start to see accommodations for at least 25mm PIR under these beams in a similar way to what are seeing in Velux window reveals🤔Thanks for your comment🤩Cheers Del
@djhago31238 ай бұрын
@thetallcarpenter we don't get much brickwork in Ireland... so I suppose I've never had to do it that way. I put the 25mm warm board around all my reveals.. it 3/8th slab on pir.. and I screw a jay bead around it to keep all reveals nice and straight and same gap and foam them with fire foam so it won't bulge it
@blowduke8 ай бұрын
I use 10mm insulation foam with adhesive sticky on one side works a treat
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Sounds great bud👍and will do the trick👊Cheers Del
@silverfox88018 ай бұрын
Nice 👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Cheers Silver Fox😎
@darrenpaulgreen8 ай бұрын
Hi Del, I think it’s an imaginative solution to the problem. I know there are now specific products for insulating steel beams (I think they are vermiculite based if memory serves) but can’t see them doing a better job and they’ll certainly be more expensive.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Darren🖐There doesn't seem to be a commonly used method/system for this, and even my Building Control Officer said he wasnt aware of any 'accepted' methods of preventing the issues caused with these type of beams😵Thanks for watching bud😎Cheers
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Darren🖐There doesn't seem to be a commonly used method/system for this, and even my Building Control Officer said he wasnt aware of any 'accepted' methods of preventing the issues caused with these type of beams😵Thanks for watching bud😎Cheers
@attlee19458 ай бұрын
Brilliant solution Del. Good to see you back
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@@attlee1945 Cheers Steve🤩
@christopherhighcock73638 ай бұрын
Excellent idea. I have Catnic style lintel insulated inside but still have a steel plate running through the bottom. What I would like to know, what happens at the bottom of the the door frame? In the cavity between the internal floor and the outside brickwork below damp course. Great vid I will try it. Cheers.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Christopher🖐 There is a 25mm PIR insulation upstand around all the external walls and doors that is put in to the height of the floor before it is screeded 👍Cheers Del
@TopCatsBack8 ай бұрын
Yes that certainly cant be a disadvantage so why not . All helps reduce issues as theres just to many to worry about so resolve as you go .
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there TCB🖐You're absolutely right, and its best to try a do as much as you can, when you can, to avoid future problems👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@paddy1208 ай бұрын
👍
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Cheers Paddy🤩
@baldyslapnut.8 ай бұрын
You could fix the external version of this on the outer steel and blockwork and then render over it no probs.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi BS🖐I'm actually fixing batten to the external blocks to take feather board, but as you say, I might be able to sneak a bit of this board in there somewhere🤩Cheers Del
@andrewriley42048 ай бұрын
Nice idea, like it. Do you think 25mm PIR Pre-Bonded with plasterboard would work?
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew🖐YES, I think 25mm insulated plasterboard would be the BEST solution for this, just as long as you've got enough of the door/window frame to accommodate it👍I know the adhesive/sealant I used in the video sticks to PIR board😎Cheers Del
@SuperWayneyb8 ай бұрын
🤘😎🤘
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Wayne🤗
@ryan719548 ай бұрын
Game changer. I might have to steal that one from you.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Its gotta be better than nothing Ryan🤔Cheers Del
@plummetplum4 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Do you have any tips on how to stop thermal bridging when framing roof lights? Thx
@thetallcarpenter4 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐 The only real way is to line the 'lighting tunnel' with a minimum of 25mm Celotex👍Cheers Del
@plummetplum4 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenterThx Del, I'll try and work that into my design.
@JACKATTACKED8 ай бұрын
👌👍👏👏👏👏
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching bud😎
@shizzleinthenizzle8 ай бұрын
Bottom plates spanning the cavity are a no no. Join the outer L shape using welded fillets .
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I hear what you're saying bud👍but in this instance, the roof wouldn't have been able to come low enough if there was the upstand of an 'L' shaped beam welded on a further 100mm out😬Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@umarhussain85438 ай бұрын
Great ideal iv had my extension and tomorrow will be doing same thing for the beam, also I've had the inspector out his telling me i need to put a catnic above existing window where a door has been added its got L shaped beam which i through is fine become there is no cavity on the existing side should he be looking at this became the inspection is for the extension he shouldn't be looking at existing
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐Yeah, I'm not sure why the Inspector is asking you about doing work that's not part of your extension🤔All the best and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@garymarshall7248 ай бұрын
I’ve seen people using that board round window reveals now because insulated plasterboard is too thick .
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Gary🖐I take it that's on older jobs/renovations as all new work should have insulated cavity closures in the reveals👍Its great for that if so🤩Cheers Del
@alistaircameron32378 ай бұрын
As per....👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Thanks Alistair 😎
@kevocos8 ай бұрын
Nice job on the lining Del but the major problem with that beam is it is external and not hot galvanised coated. The client should have used an engineer to correctly specify that UC, some BCO's will sign anything off.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi kevcos🖐This was all designed by the structural engineer and I don't think I've ever fitted/worked on beams like this that have been hot dipped galvanised🤔Do you think that this type of beam will suffer with corrosion? Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
@kevocos8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter Yes definitely. As sure as eggs are eggs, steel exposed to the elements will begin to corrode immediately. Any externally exposed structural steel should be spec'd to be hot galvo dipped.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@kevocos I hear you, and fortunately the outer edge of the beam in this instance is tucked well under the 200mm soffit and is also being feather boarded👍so won't get any weather on it🤞
@kevocos8 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter Yeah, it will be fine. And given the minor loads I would imagine even if there was any corrosion it will be minimal and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Keep up the good work mate!
@riptiz4 ай бұрын
@@kevocoswhen I built our extension the designer specified dipping the exposed ends! Of course I had them hot dipped completely, around 1.7 tonnes including posts.
@user-nz7ee3fi7o6 ай бұрын
Good solution! Would some dpm under the beam help eliminate moisture transfer?
@thetallcarpenter6 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐 It may be tricky to add a dpm under the beam, as in my experience, not much sticks to it🤔The tile backer is non vapour permeable, so should keep moist air from getting to the beam anyway👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@user-nz7ee3fi7o6 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter thank you for the reply! Could the dpm not be tucked into the void in the rsj and then insert the noggins for the plasterboard? That should hold the dpm secure.
@thetallcarpenter6 ай бұрын
@@user-nz7ee3fi7o It would hold it on the inner edge, but you need to stick it somehow to the edge that the door is fixed to🤔
@mickeytherye8 ай бұрын
Hi Del, Do you batten the walls either side of the doors to bring it inline with the top battens or dot and dab
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Mickey🖐The batten I fixed to the upright noggins is the right thickness to suit the depth of the dot and dab so it all runs in the same line👍I've got a video coming soon on it👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers
@trig8 ай бұрын
That's a great idea! Perhaps use aluminium foil tape over the butt joints? If you don't mind me asking, what did you use to fix the bifold frame to the rsj?
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi there🖐I'm actually going to use foil backed plasterboard as well, but aluminium foil wouldn't hurt👍The head is fixed to the bottom of the steel with 5x50 screws through a 4.5mm hole💪Cheers Del
@denty328 ай бұрын
I use a company called Fixfast that do self drilling screws for 12mm steel, but you can also pick them up from Toolstation and screw fix just ask for heavy duty self drilling screws.
@denty328 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back Del. Cold bridging is a bloody pain, that’s a great solution not sure on the thermal value but it’s better then nothing I suppose. I wonder how big a gluelam would need to be instead of a steel which would alleviate that problem, just a thought.
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@@denty32 Hi Mark🖐I needed the rafter feet to come down low enough over this beam so I could keep the soffit and fascia reasonably low, so a might have been to high🤔Thanks for watching bud and your comment😎
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@@denty32 Good to know Mark😎Cheers
@gavincollins93768 ай бұрын
No trickle vents I noticed. Would this not help
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
Hi Gavin🖐I'm not sure trickle vents help with this kind of issue as they cant move that great a volume of air🤔I worked on a job where they had terrible sweating/damp at the beam/door frame joint, and the trickle vents didn't help😵Thanks for your comment😎Cheers Del
@gavincollins93768 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter I've given thought to this problem in the past Del and I have thought about the insulated p/d but the problem being is getting it to say up and as always the frame profile is never wide enough. Do like your idea
@darrenroche92258 ай бұрын
I was wondering where you got to Del
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
I've been super busy Darren😵and not able to video any of the work I've been doing😢Thanks for watching mate😎Cheers
@darrenroche92258 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter that's why I do be amazed you and others make time to do these videos , I am mad busy and not a hope could I do one , I wouldn't have the know how anyway , but they are much appreciated Del
@bricklayersworldwithandy62778 ай бұрын
We shouldn't be designing this stuff Dell, Architects should specify every movement but as we know they charge a lot of money for nothing and leave it to us, so when a condensation problem occurs who takes the blame?
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
@bricklayersworldwithandy6277 It's almost like you're speaking from experience Andy😆Hope you're well mate and thanks for watching 😎
@bricklayersworldwithandy62778 ай бұрын
@@thetallcarpenter 👍
@jptanev8 ай бұрын
Here is my issue with this steel beams. Why put insolation on the inside of the steel beam? Isnt that gonna prevent the beam from warming itself from the inside temp of the house? If metal is warm there won't be condensation on it ?!? Protecting it from outside temp only makes more sense ?!
@thetallcarpenter8 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right bud, and the issue is exactly HOW to insulate a beam like this from the outside🤔 I real terms, the only part of this beam that is uninsulated is the outer 80mm of the bottom plate that is under the external block skin above it. (there is 100mm PIR insulation directly behind this block work carrying on up to the insulation between the rafters). I think the thermal transfer along this section will be minimal and hoping that what I've done inside will help prevent any condensation🤞Great comment and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del