Range Report: Sig Sauer P365 (Micro Subcompact 9mm)

[@robertivey389]

I love the looks of the p365

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad it does. It might not be for me, but I am glad it is for you.

[@rbm6184]

Had mine that is the original since 2019 and after over 600 rounds of all kinds of ammo including FMJ/ball, hollow point, brass case, and of those 300 aluminum case its still flawless and accurate. Mine is the manual safety version. I have no complaints. The glow of the day/night tritium sights are comforting at night. It is a small gun so the smaller the gun the harder it is to shoot and as such it requires more practice to stay proficient with it. Like all small guns its drawbacks/limitations are short sight radius, more recoil (but its not that bad with this particular pistol), and the short barrel means less velocity and less muzzle energy. The shooter must understand its limitations. Its not for everyone and its particularly difficult for big handed shooters and you found that out with your particular anatomical problems. Striker or primer drag is no big deal especially with the SIG non-symmetrical or angular MIM firing pins that now eliminate drag all together. I never replaced mine and am not concerned about the drag that happens with even my sub compacts. If the firing pins are produced right and heat treated right or carburized right they won't break. SIG is right, its a non-problem that detractors are trying to make into a problem. You can nit pick the little things that have no bearing on the proper function all you want. With carburization of the parts the wear is also a non-problem. With the durability of modern parts by such treatments as carburizing and nitriding and use of MIM parts the pistol is made to last. Never had a problem with the location of the mag release or the ergonomics. Again, nit picking or anatomical problems. If you don't like the ergos there are other frames you can swap out on the Fire Control Unit. I am done with this nit picking clown show.

[@thetexasgunvault]

You make great points.

[@007Chancellor]

I'm in the "greatest thing since sliced bread" column. Especially after replacing the stock grip module with a Wilson Combat XL module. Wow. Increases capacity to 12 rounds and fills the hand SO much better. It is an incredible combo. Best gun-related $50 I've ever spent. It's near perfection for a deep concealment pistol. Mine has eaten over 1500 rounds of various FMJ rounds, handloads, and Federal HST 147gr HPs without a single malfunction of any kind. I've tried them all - from small Glocks (hate them) to the SA Hellcat and the S&W Shield Plus. For me, the SIG blows 'em all outta the water. And looks are totally subjective, but I love the no-nonsense flats of this pistol. Oh...and after a few loadings and unloadings, and about a week in the pistol fully charged, the magazines become MUCH easier to load to capacity.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad you like it and that it works well for you. I can respect that position and perspective.

[@petesheppard1709]

I bought mine about a week ago, and I REALLY like it! Over 300 rds in, and it is as comfortable as any gun I've shot and far more so than any of my other pocket pistols, including the Kel-Tec P11 (arguably the first high-capacity sub-compact when it first came out in the late '90s--it also has a serialized fire control module that can be changed among different grips. ADMITTEDLY, the P365 is a far more refined pistol) and PF9 (a single-stack even smaller than the P11, introduced in the '00s) as well as snubbie revolvers.

[@thetexasgunvault]

As long as you like it and it works for you, that is all that matters.

[@petesheppard1709]

@@thetexasgunvault Yes, options are wonderful, and I was almost giddy when I first shot my P365! I'm not a great shot, but after decades of long, HEAVY triggers, it seemed I couldn't miss! 😀 Also, the earlier guns tended to sting after a while, but so far the Sig is totally comfortable, even though it's a tiny pocket rocket. 😎

[@MDpolo]

Like a good number of us, I jumped on the smaller the better bandwagon. That is until I started training and took some classes from let’s say people with real life experience. All I can tell you is that under stress, real stress, it was almost impossible for me to get a grip and actually perform with such a small gun. So I’ve sold all my micro guns. All of them. Thank you very much for another informative video.

[@thetexasgunvault]

You are welcome. Yeah, smaller is not always better.

[@tims6970]

Smaller is never better for someone who is comfortable with 25 ounces, at least a 3 and a half inch barrel and larger calibers. IMO

[@peters303]

@@MDpolo I also agree. I bought one when they came out. Hardly notice you're carrying initially. The crunch comes as you say, when you induce stress training and you find out it's NOT the most suitable firearm. I upgraded to SIG P229 Legion for EDC.

[@cscy.9402]

Liked your review so much. You were very clear about what is objective and what is subjective. The content is concise but thorough, and flows naturally. Great job!

[@thetexasgunvault]

Glad you enjoyed it! That means a lot to me.

[@08vulcan900gw]

I own a p365 and a p365x. In my opinion they are fantastic guns. If you have small hands like me. Still, I do wish the grip was just a tiny bit wider, to fill my palm. There are many aftermarket frames that will do that. Im thinking the Wilson Combat frame might be just what i need. The ability to change frames and size and capacity is one of its best features.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Yes, the modularity is nice.

[@ShawnShipstad]

I am in the same boat. I put a Wilson Combat on my "Orogional" 9mm P365 & a Wilson Combat on my P365X. The difference is night & day. I find it much more easy to controll. Best of luck-God bless. I did go the extra mile and put the weights in the P365 frame. The extra weight is worth it to me.

[@jasonusaf6326]

I have the Wilson combat grip for my X/XL version…great ergos but it was TOO trippy lol…had to lightly sand down the grip a bit for comfort when firing and when carrying IWB

[@mtnbound2764]

the whole purpose of this gun is to be as small as possible ( with 10 rounds of 9mm) so saying the grip should/ could be bigger would defeat the purpose of this particular firearm.

[@007Chancellor]

The WC grip module, especially if you get the XL, makes this little pistol near perfection for me.

[@82lowe36id]

My main carry has been the M&P Shield since they first came out. When the P365 was announced I was very interested. Back then LE/MIL could order over the phone from the Sig store. I got my order in for a P365. It got delayed because when they got the gun, they found the night sights were dead. I finally got it and liked it. Then I started seeing reports of strikers breaking and trigger bar springs breaking. I lost trust, sold it and went back to the Shield. Today I do carry a P365 again, but an XL model. I have had zero issues and it works very well for me. It fits my smaller size hands better than the Shield. I will never get rid of my Shields though. They are proven and run so well.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Those Shields are nice. I think those striker issues were due to striker drag.

[@mtnbound2764]

idk the # but 99% of self defense events do not require a mag change. one could argue that the mag release being more difficult to actuate a benefit as it will limit un-intentional mag drops

[@thetexasgunvault]

I could see that point of view.

[@007Chancellor]

100% Couldn't agree more.

[@guynall4025]

So today for Christmas I got my self a sig p365 and a ruger lcp 11 drove up to the out door range quickly shot them bot they work great but will say I’m actually shocked that the sig felt as if it had less recoil than the 380. The version I got of the sig p365;is the two tone with standard white dot sights but love it so far.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Congrats! It sounds like you got some nice gifts there!

[@daleroetcisoender9976]

I have two of them love em both. Red dot on one. Was hitting paper plate at 25 yds. All rds.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad they are working so well for you. That is all that matters.

[@IMABEAST191]

I recently switched carry guns and picked up the xl spectre comp it’s insane how such a small package can hold 17 rounds. for many years I carried g32 now it just feels like a giant block.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad it is working out for you. The width is what makes the Glocks feel bigger than they actually are.

[@donaldbernier5591]

Good review. I own one. I agree with your assessment of the mag loading. Most difficult mags I ever loaded( arthritis). But I don’t care about esthetics. But with the trigger so sensitive, I wish it had a safety.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Thank you so much!

[@MrSteveb1]

Enjoyed the review , I have a P365 and its my primary EDC during the hot summer months , it came optic ready and I mounted a Holosun EPS carry, imho it’s the ideal EDC, 100% reliable and so small I can conceal it in a pocket . I’ve had zero problems. However I did make two changes that imho greatly improved the gun. I installed a gray guns grip module and flat trigger . Feels much better in the hand and the trigger got rid of the excess play in the trigger . Very pleased . I’ll probably never get rid of it. There are other imitations but there’s only one P365

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am so glad it is working well for you and that you enjoy it. That is the most important thing.

[@ShawnShipstad]

I found the Wilson Combat frame to make a huge difference. Best of luck-God bless. In addition, I installed the extra weights you can buy through Wilson Combat.

[@thetexasgunvault]

That is good information to know. I did not know they offered those.

[@jonn8163]

I bought a p365 when they first came out. It was a gun that I really wanted to like. Took a lot of practice to become accurate and proficient with it. That being said. I love the platform now. My early version had an issue with firing pins breaking after about 1,000 rounds. So much so Sig sent me a new complete slide after the second breakage which I picked the fde version. Since then I’ve stepped up to the XL and now the Marco.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad they took care of you.

[@b.c.731]

I like the 365. I do every now and then carry it but the 43x tends to be the best choice in my opinion.

[@richb.4374]

I like both pistols. My 43X is easier to shoot well than my P365, but both shoot well enough to be good daily carry options. The P365 is easier to conceal due to the smaller footprint.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I know a few people who like the G43 best.

[@JoeyJoJoJunior936]

@@thetexasgunvault I have a G43 and P365. I like both.

[@ding174]

Had a Glock 43 got a sig p365x. Mission: concealed edc. Sig had more rounds, flatter and smaller. Accurate for its purpose at 7yds or closer rapid fire, aiming over the sights (point shooting). Mission accomplished. Glock given to my son.

[@mikeburklin2675]

Agreed with you assessment, except tou forgot one of the main features modularity, Sig and the aftermarket can fix any fit issue tou have with the OG. Grip modules in any size. Thanks Jason, always appreciate you videos.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Thank you so much!

[@CookieMonster_1969]

I held the Sig P365, Taurus G3 & G2, and Hellcat at my local tool store. I walked out with the Hellcat. 👍

[@thetexasgunvault]

As long as you got the one you like and are more comfortable with, that is all that matters.

[@chrisragone8785]

Try the Wilson Combat grip module

[@thetexasgunvault]

I will try one day.

[@rondouglas5147]

My primary CCW Weapons are an Sig P938 9mm and a Kimber Ultra CDP II .45 with Crimson Trace Laser Grips. I finally picked up the P365 CA with the Romeo X optics, not exactly my style but capacity is great. The Romeo X optics are great with the Co-Witnessing of the native optics. Still need a few more trips to the range to get use to the optics over the iron sights, but bench resting, proves to be quite accurate with bench resting. Still miss the 1911 trigger action. Not bad though.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Thank you. I hope you get this one to run just like you want.

[@davidjames3405]

love the pistol, however a recent bad experience really disappointed me. used as a edc and the rose/gold coated areas all show corrosion and sig sauer will not cover it under warranty! very disappointing

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am so sorry to hear that.

[@lukesmith981]

I think if the frame was metal it would reduce the recoil. Try taking her to an outdoor range it might help.

[@thetexasgunvault]

It might.

[@Rangergeo85]

I have over 10k rounds through a p365 so it runs fine

[@hondasaurusrex6998]

Did you replace the recoil spring assembly yet?

[@Rangergeo85]

@@hondasaurusrex6998 haven't replaced anything yet. Had 3 ammo related stoppages. But no major malfunctions.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I am glad it is working out for you.

[@paulcarlin5181]

Which gun has lesser recoil, the P365 9mm or the GX4?

[@thetexasgunvault]

GX4 I would I say.

[@ShawnShipstad]

Sig & their mags have a life time warranty. You have a problem send it to Sig, Their customer service is great.

[@thetexasgunvault]

That is what I hear.

[@darrtrubb]

Are they going to replace your gun after it rusts?

[@howardkahn4330]

they suck

[@andrewsteele7663]

Good morning, Jason, it looks like a very sexy little gun. And 10 rounds are way enough if you have to draw and use it. Obviously, our government doesn't allow for that size gun for the average citizen. Cheers

[@thetexasgunvault]

Your size restrictions baffle me.

[@tims6970]

It’s a Sig Sauer auto loader. Not a cheaper competitor complete with the history of that. 50 years training and experience says go with Sig or H&K. Quality Trumps everything else. Nuff said.

[@thetexasgunvault]

I agree

[@Bushmaster85]

Better late than never…to the party

[@thetexasgunvault]

Well, this is an older video I had to re-upload.

[@mtnbound2764]

no on cares what you thinking about how it looks. seriously though thats totally up to the individual. i think the sig looks much better than the competition.

[@thetexasgunvault]

You can disagree with me and that is fine. However, the looks of a pistol, like cars, go a long way in getting people to buy and use a product.

[@mtnbound2764]

@@thetexasgunvault right but that is up to th individual. just because you think a gun looks good or bad doesn't mean anything to another person who might have a completely opposite opinnion. i suppose it doesnt hurt to say how you feel about it, but still everyone is going to have to make their own decision on what looks good or doesnt. maybe you hurt my feeling becuase i like the sigs looks. jk you didnt hurt my feelings.

[@hondasaurusrex6998]

Fooweee on you for not liking the P365 not like the 99.99999% of the guntubers.😂. I do agree with you it's a boring looking gun, but...... For me it's a great shooter in 9mm and 380acp. And the one in 380acp became my cold weather carry rotation bit. Had a bit of history with the 9mm, few times it went to SIG for warranty repairs. Sad to say the early model of mine looked from the inside like it was built by a first year trade school student. Metal chips inside the slide, poor finish. But never gave up on SIG to do thing right once the market was flooded with them and so they did. And in my opinion and yes it's like a belly button, everybody has one. The perfect match up is that size frame to a 380acp caliber. Just waiting for your hated Springfield Armory to come out with a Hellcat in 380acp. Stay safe and well.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Lol, thank you so much!

[@robertm2843]

Never crossed my mind to eliminate a gun because it wasn't "purty"...lol.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Guns are more than just tools to some people. To some, the anesthetics are important. Guns are mechanical art to some. It is fine if you disagree, but it is still just an opinion either way.

[@terrybush7]

Anyone else notice the Upside-down pineapple 🍍 🍍

[@thetexasgunvault]

IYKYK

[@markkomminsk3592]

Maybe that means he’s in distress. You know like when they fly the flag upside down.

[@darrtrubb]

Yeah, dude is a freak lol 🍍

[@darrtrubb]

P365s are rust buckets. I bought a S&W M&P Shield Plus instead.

[@thetexasgunvault]

Have you had one actually rust? I thought they were made of stainless steel?

[@darrtrubb]

@@thetexasgunvault countless reports of rusting P365s online. The Nitron finish on P365s is trash.

[@anuthabubba964]

Nice and small!

[@coastalpoodlerescue]

😊😊👍👍

[@thetexasgunvault]

Thank you!