I've had an atheist friend. I wanted to try and help him find God, but i needed some strong, good arguments to convince him. So first i've tried to understand his point of view, so i could point him his errors. Couldn't find much of them. So i took my Bible, start reading, to find and show him the greatness of God. Now i'm an atheist myself. Cause this book doesn't contains what my parents/priests said to me it does. It contains blood, violence, stupidity, sexism, and whole lot of other b*llsh*t.
@MasterSpade4 жыл бұрын
I too was a brainwashed christian for the first 35 years of my life. In my 30's I wanted to get closer to our lord and savior, so I did something too few people actually do.......I read the bible. First time I read it, I did all the gymnastics and made all the excuses for all the contradictions and EVIL commanded by that "god". But by the time I got to the end of that book, I was agnostic. I decided to read it again, but that 2nd time with an Open Mind, not a brainwashed one. I figured, IF there truly is a good god, he would NOT mind me asking all the tough questions. In fact if he were real and a good god, he would want us to ask all the tough questions, because that would at least weed out all the false gods. So I read it again. BOY WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Reading it with an open mind made me see how EVIL that character truly is. By the time I finished it that 2nd time, I was Atheist. After alot of years of researching this topic, I can say there is ZERO proof of any "god". If there is one, he/she/it does NOT want us to know. This quote was true in both our cases -- "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov If only more people would actually READ their supposed "holy books".
@readiest4 жыл бұрын
@kim burley So basically you are - as born again christian - ok with slavery, selling your children into slavery, massmurdering people etc etc etc. It´s there, and you cannot discuss away. But you can close your eyes and your mind and stick your fingers in your ears and pretend. Do as you wish, i don´t care. But don´t come here and try to be a missionary.
@readiest4 жыл бұрын
@kim burley Firstly i don´t need saving for there is nothing to be saved from. Keep your fairy tales to yourself. Secondly i don´t want to repeat myself, so read above. And thirdly i´m educated enough not to waste my time with people who live in a fantasy world. Have a nice day.
@gregoriikatastrov74724 жыл бұрын
@kim burley you are confusing historical book with an ancient book. Your is just old collection of what people believe in this time, in this area. That's why only non-secular sources are mentioning Jesus character. That's why it contains things that we do know (thanks to science) cannot happened in reality. So you are trolling or you were mislead very bad (and only in that case i'm really sorry for you. If you talked yourself into it, than you're wasting your life on your own demand).
@MasterSpade4 жыл бұрын
@kim burley -- You say I "read it as an unsaved person". Wrong. As I said, the first time I read the bible I read it as a Brainwashed religious person. I believed all that crap. I believed it and wanted it to be true. As I said, I was Brainwashed. I was "Saved". That was true for the first 35 years of my life. So you are wrong there. Then I read the bible to get closer to our lord and savior. The first time I read through that book, I could not believe the EVIL and all the contradictions in it. But I was brainwashed, so I made all the Excuses and did all the Gymnastics. But by the time I got to the end of that book, I couldn't take it anymore. By the end, I was agnostic, but still WANTED to believe. So I told myself "I will read it again, but with an Open Mind. If there is a god, and it is a good god, then he will want it this way. He will not be mad when I ask all the tough questions, in fact, if he truly is a good god, he will love the tough questions because that will at least weed out all the false gods." So I read it that 2nd time.........with an Open Mind, not a Brainwashed one. That 2nd reading made me realize that IF there is a god, it sure as hell is NOT the god of the bible. Too EVIL, and too many contradictions. After that 2nd reading, I was what I am now, Atheist. All that means is, that I do not see any real evidence for any god. After years of research, atheism is the only choice. So either --- 1. there is no god, or 2. there is.......but he sure as hell does not want us to know. Take your pick. With no real evidence of any god, I vote number 1. If #2 is true, then it is an EVIL god. Simple as that.
@hopelessnerd66774 жыл бұрын
Three people I'd genuinely like to meet, just to prove to myself that they exist..
@larryscarr19294 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!!! You have now reached Advanced Skeptic level 4.. Please pick up your prize, that probably doesn't exist.
@dougparsons89484 жыл бұрын
You mean you don't believe on FAITH? hahaha
@donaldmacdonald99404 жыл бұрын
You will meet them in Eternity.....
@chimpanzeethat38024 жыл бұрын
Donald. Perilously close to an argument ad baculum fallacy
@emyerson4 жыл бұрын
I've met Aron, so I can verify that he exists. But you've never met me, so there's no guarantee that I exist, so I guess that doesn't help you.
@Hscaper4 жыл бұрын
Aron has an engineer mindset, Matt has the project manager mindset, Seth has the salesman mindset.
@kenhatemongerstevensofthet30854 жыл бұрын
I started crying after hearing about the rescue van. So happy knowing animals have a chance.
@NapcitycellGaming4 жыл бұрын
"I don't have a beer because beer is not allowed here." "It's a really strong coke." Haha thanks Aron!
@dillonhamilton29144 жыл бұрын
Napcitycell Gaming and right after that, Matt said, “... or I’d be beating it off right now.” And then right after he realized he said it, he kind of looks up and says sort of under his breath to himself- “Beating it off?”...
@Somerandomegamer4 жыл бұрын
Faith is believing in a concept, regardless of any and all evidence put forth against it, and regardless of the lack of objective evidence to support it.
@dillonhamilton29144 жыл бұрын
Cobalt_ Um... that’s a pretty sloppy definition if I ever did hear one. But that’s what you get when talking about something as insidious as this.
@NapcitycellGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@dillonhamilton2914 define faith sir..
@dillonhamilton29144 жыл бұрын
Napcitycell Gaming No thanks. Fuck faith.
@RickReasonnz4 жыл бұрын
Re the trinity, Aron's speech nailed it when he said that he focused on the science, Matt on the philosophy, and Seth on the humanism. If we MUST assign labels to them, then Aron would be God, being a student on the way the works, Seth is the Son, being mindful of how to live in a non-religious manner, and Matt gets to be the Holy Spirit, being concerned with the more theoretical side of things.
@RickReasonnz4 жыл бұрын
@David Anewman Define 'religion'. While you're there, look up 'metaphor' and 'satire'
@RickReasonnz4 жыл бұрын
@David Anewman Delusion n. David Anewman
@mutalemwananshiku40984 жыл бұрын
Aron The Father Matt The Son and Seth the Unholy Spirit.
@SPL08694 жыл бұрын
LuthAMF are you saying “clearly thanks” because you are a troll as he said that you were?
@cuzned13754 жыл бұрын
Mutale Mwananshiku I don’t know how this is even a question. 😉 Seth has the Voice of God. So it’s Seth father, Matt son, Aron ghost. I have spoken.
@abelcainsbrother4 жыл бұрын
@@neilforbes416 Sounds like you like atheist echo-chambers.
@Simon.the.Likeable4 жыл бұрын
As fucked as this troll LuthAMF seems, at least he is not in the class of SGlooball or Truth Matters.
@unit00334 жыл бұрын
@@Simon.the.Likeable probably just as silly. Bizarre they come to channels they dislike just to make childish comments
@rorytennes85764 жыл бұрын
I've heard of a secular sobriety program. SMART. Self Management And Recovery Therapy.
@YeOldeSpellbooke4 жыл бұрын
"In the name of the father, the son and into the hole he goes" ~Dave Allen
@JamesRichardWiley4 жыл бұрын
The higher power people love to label "god" is just more of yourself.
@YeOldeSpellbooke4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith Since i can't seem to understand any of the comments you guys made, i'll have to ask: James, what do you mean? Is it a Dave Allen quote? Bob, did you base your comment knowing James position? I would love some clarity on the issue. Edit: Have youtube removed the "edit" remark? Bobs comment ain't what i remember it to be...
@YeOldeSpellbooke4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith What is your best intellectual humiliation you can give to someone that don't believe in your god and never have believed in any god?
@YeOldeSpellbooke4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith Sorry, but i never heard of NDE, please clarify...
@psychee14 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith To be honest, I've heard of near death experiences but that abbreviation was completely new to me.
@SunnySecular4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching this! All 3 of you are awesome and help so many people in so many ways...Thank you.☺
@sharkamov4 жыл бұрын
Just a comment from Scandinavia (Norway): *These three intelligent and eloquent individuals, for me - represents the very best of mankind: **_Intelligence in use! . . . ._*
@JamesRichardWiley4 жыл бұрын
Aron and Matt: The omnipotent god already knows what it would take to convince everyone that he exists and he could accomplish this at any time. So why doesn't he appear on Matt's show to settle the issue? Nothing.
@twombonu4 жыл бұрын
Grow up! You're supposed to be a critical thinker, but you idolize these arrogant assholes????
@twombonu4 жыл бұрын
@Cynthia Pope You obviously are not a good judge of character. My parents who had a proven record of being very bright minds warned me against arrogance, because it is the first step towards fanaticism.
@sharkamov4 жыл бұрын
@@twombonu Must be hard on you when someone who knows more about the topic than you always keep bursting the bubble you try to live in, eh? . . . . 😆
@twombonu4 жыл бұрын
@@sharkamov Sure, you know better, don't you, arrogant prick.
@recoveringpotential80954 жыл бұрын
Damn wish I could have been there, only 40 miles down the road, but we’re so understaffed right now just wasn’t possible, thanks for posting this
@seanaden33874 жыл бұрын
We don’t need a godless nurse . Thank you.
@MidlifeCrisis824 жыл бұрын
@@seanaden3387 we absolutely need a godless nurse. I'd rather they know what to do than pray for me.
@37parman4 жыл бұрын
Had the privilege to meet all three of these fellows at the last Freeflo in Orlando last year. Please keep up the fight men.
@pamela74h4 жыл бұрын
All three of you guys played apart in my journey out of faith. I am lucky to live in an area where I can be a part of the ACA family, to have that constant support. They have been so good to me and my family.
@anneyng56333 жыл бұрын
I love this Unholy Trinity. You're all humble brilliant people who have been through the rigours of religion. I was lucky to have been born Buddhist. My mom told me to pray for "Money, Prosperity, and Long Life." That's it. I prayed for those three and it was fun--I knew that those 'prayers' don't matter much unless I support them by living my life productively, healthily, and frugally. It was 9/11 that woke me up to how scary it is that some people are brainwashed to hijack and fly planes into the Twin Towers. I was outraged and angry that such teachings can destroy so many lives. Since then, I started finding books, resources, videos, and podcasts on Atheism. Thank you again for what you do and how you support us.
@smooth_sundaes51724 жыл бұрын
I think the greatest contribution you guys (and others lke you) make is standing out as a bulwark and united front we can all rally to. I am just a humble guy with my own problems but you guys give strength in a world dominated by religion and establishment.
@BolasDaGrk4 жыл бұрын
47:46 Now here is a good slogan when Aron runs for US president: "Make the universe make sense again..."
@janellephoenix43784 жыл бұрын
OMG you guys are back, sweet! 👍
@mikemuragemi64 жыл бұрын
Wish i was there
@DavidmByrd3 жыл бұрын
thanks to all three of you, you three enable me to have a voice threw comments.
@wd92744 жыл бұрын
Fantastic speeches! If you get the chance to hear them speak do!!!
@Tenno-Frame4 жыл бұрын
I'm having trouble finding the KZbin channel this is normal that was mentioned at 1:00:10. I'd like to see that.
@Tenno-Frame4 жыл бұрын
I found it. It's called Dit is normal.👍
@dianegaus35614 жыл бұрын
my hand is up for ALL of you!! Thank you, Thank you!
@annikinstarkiller6004 жыл бұрын
Aron Ra is so brutally honest, it is amazing to see
@enkidionysus63473 жыл бұрын
I laughed, cried, and contemplated in equal(ish) measure. Joe bless you, ramen!
@secularsunshine90364 жыл бұрын
My favorite. Our vice president, Mike Pence believes that the coronavirus is the common cold. He sends his "thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers". He is the one in charge. The stock market lost six trillion in six days.
@melissaryman97524 жыл бұрын
I SO agree with you guys about AA! I have personal experience with it and I have one question. Who in the world with at least average intelligence would be convinced by The Chapter to the Agnostic? I kept telling people I didn’t believe in god, and every single one told me to read that chapter as if I hadn’t read it 20 times? It might make sense to people who already believe in god, but there is nothing in that chapter remotely convincing. It basically tells you to make up your own god. That’s just STUPID!!!!
@AudiophileTubes4 жыл бұрын
Please read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins, or 'God Is Not Great' by Christopher Hitchens. VERY thought provoking, sensible books that will (hopefully) open your mind and allow you to ask the big questions.
@davers19534 жыл бұрын
Any chance of the tour coming back to Aus?
@JonXarteros4 жыл бұрын
Aron Ra, as the oldest but also most aggressive, is OT god. Matt, with his patience and calmness (most of the time) is jesus. Seth operates largely via radio podcast, and sort of operates like an intangible unholy spirit. It fits. I like it.
@dfrasu4 жыл бұрын
I understand, but the stage feedback is very distracting. The audience mic didn’t seem to be doing so.
@keabeiningen48333 жыл бұрын
What shirt is Matt wearing and where do I buy one?
@JeffreyBoser4 жыл бұрын
I think there is an audacity filter that will get rid of that ringing echo.
@davidwatson81184 жыл бұрын
Yes, religion need to be purged from its echo chamber of control and manipulation.
@joycesky50414 жыл бұрын
I was HORRIFIED AND TRAUMATIZED when I found the TRUTH that there's no fucking god! It REALLY MESSED my head up and I was so fucking angry because I was betrayed and lied to for 30 year's and I felt like I was made a fool of!!! However, I was RELIEVED when I found out there's NO HELL!
@adamx97934 жыл бұрын
We got three badasses on stage.
@pjukas4 жыл бұрын
Wow....I'm so happy i grew up in a secular country in a non religious family......over 25 years ago.....Keep fighting.
@jx51894 жыл бұрын
Please return your podcast back to youtube! I know you removed it from YT. for the way it was not being counted and the loss of revenue but not being on YT. You don't get the revenue anyway and it is much easier for new people to find you!
@patobrien235 Жыл бұрын
Hello to the 3 of you, you should do this a lot more instead of debates, it is much better and more down to earth,
@TheOicyu8124 жыл бұрын
Any hopes that my favorite trio (RUSH) would someday reunite were dashed away with the death of Neil Peart. But at least my second-favorite trio was able to put together a reunion tour.
@sassyinscrubs52064 жыл бұрын
Are u guys speaking at the convention in november in san antonio??
@demomanchaos4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone point me to the "ThisisNormal" video he is talking about where they read "Quran" quotes then reveal them to be from the bible?
@TheUglyGnome4 жыл бұрын
+1
@TheThinkingAtheist4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHbRiKqVoa1nqrM
@theodorev6664 жыл бұрын
"Maybe they don't like the Undertaker" 😂😂😂 I nearly died...
@thomaswachter77824 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, very entertaining and always enlightening.
@sagekadow67033 жыл бұрын
Excellent! We want more! 😀
@karlwagner61874 жыл бұрын
When are you guys going to come to Europe? Preferably Scandinavia. As in Denmark, where I live. Man, that would be cool.
@habibie4 жыл бұрын
You are worthy of the title.
@IR_Real4 жыл бұрын
So right about the 12 steps. Edit :There were so many moments that just hit the spot for me.
@travisthompson95544 жыл бұрын
Those three guys are extremely gracious, and Seth is a hard worker behind the scenes, as evidence by his focus during setup.
@JackgarPrime4 жыл бұрын
Aron Ra looking like Fake Undertaker from the 90's in that thumbnail.
@asian4324 жыл бұрын
A friend, a tax lawyer, told me that as the government can’t check their sleazy donations. As a citizen or as a member of the church, you can ask copies of their accounting books.
@metroidmayhem84634 жыл бұрын
This is true . The church I went to made it transparent. There was a monthly financial statement on the board in the back to covered all. From donations to expenses.
@metroidmayhem84634 жыл бұрын
@Joe Horn Yeah I think they should all show the books. Hell that little church worked off of 300$ a week. It could show what all it did. Bills donations etc.
@metroidmayhem84634 жыл бұрын
@Joe Horn Oh I get it im from the states.My point im trying to make is if that little place could be transparent then any and all churches have no excuse. They should want to be honest about it like they were. But alas most are not and hide behind special tax laws
@demonshaz4 жыл бұрын
Seth's closing stance is exactly my view on god. If god knows everything then he knows what's in my mind and wont punish me for not believing
@chrisilias70124 жыл бұрын
I cant find the guys from Netherlands who read the bible. Does anyone has e clue?
@jane-marie32894 жыл бұрын
It was definitely hard to find but I finally found it, kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHbRiKqVoa1nqrM
@theodorev6664 жыл бұрын
Can we please comment on Matt's jacket??? Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
@shannonkey99268 ай бұрын
I laughed, learned and loved so much of this hour❤
@Xynth224 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a link to the video Seth mentions about the two guys reading verses to people who think they are reading from the Quran, but instead it comes from the Bible? I can't seem to find it based on the channel name he mentioned.
@TheThinkingAtheist4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHbRiKqVoa1nqrM
@Xynth224 жыл бұрын
@@TheThinkingAtheist Thank you! I was typing in Dis or This rather than Dit so that's why I could'n't find it.
@5driedgrams4 жыл бұрын
Come to Brazil!
@TheFriendlyAntinatalist4 жыл бұрын
Y’all sure do adhere to Humanism as tho it were a religion, so the Christian reference is really quite fitting
@andreatiffany91373 ай бұрын
I'll tell you what happens when you start to question a god in sobriety- you don't drink, you listen to all sorts of atheist pod casts and you think..
@mikemerriott13264 жыл бұрын
13:28 ...Uuumm... When???
@professorsypher61744 жыл бұрын
Where can we see the speaking parts?
@DadeMurphy666 Жыл бұрын
9:06 "Jesus loves me but I make him wear a condom"
@hwd714 жыл бұрын
‘Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening.’ - Richard Dawkins.
@DeathsHood4 жыл бұрын
@David Anewman Evolution is the label applied to an observed phenomenon. In the same way that gravity is the label applied to an observed phenomenon. Get a basic education, you simp.
@andywalkerplumber4 жыл бұрын
A monolithic slab built on sand is actually a rather ideal foundation,
@seanaden33874 жыл бұрын
Rivers don’t run uphill Water seeks its level
@dacksonflux4 жыл бұрын
Their dynamic is awesome. I love these guys.
@Marc0104 жыл бұрын
You three need to come east - say like Pennsylvania?
@ScooBdont4 жыл бұрын
The whole concept of evil being an entity that can possess and control someone and is hiding in the dark just waiting to get you is, I believe, a tremendously harmful belief that has gave, and is giving, every minute of every single day, justification and excuses for the most abominable behavior that humans are capable of. The fear and hate that one concept generates is incredible.
@kinglouis69744 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m English and just started following matt , I don’t see how there is god although I don’t judge anyone that does but I don’t like having religion stuffed down my neck , to me religion doesn’t really make any sense Can any one tell me other places to search on content like this , 👍🏴
@hwd714 жыл бұрын
'...And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty...'
@justinwilliams5144 жыл бұрын
Aron looks like he should be on WWE
@davidjimenez75564 жыл бұрын
I'd love to get a secular sobriety thing started where I live in Southeast Louisiana.
@subaduck4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful interaction. GO.
@lookatowel4 жыл бұрын
If you asked me what I thought atheists looked like I would draw these 3 🤣
@Glasgow12704 жыл бұрын
Great conversations overall. The political stuff is sad though. “Why are Republicans wrong?” It’s sad to see these otherwise intelligent men who can see through religion, but can’t see through political tribalism.
@colinmccullough48614 жыл бұрын
Agree. Although I'm not from the USA, I take an interest in politics in general and there are as many left wing democrat nutcases as there are republican. Just as there are good republicans and Democrats. Not believing, or believing, in a god, isn't unique to a particular political party. So, Matt, please keep your political beliefs out of a discussion on atheism.
@juliecrossman58384 жыл бұрын
Is Matt wearing a ... smoking jacket?? 😄. Love these guys
@timhyatt91854 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why it was in Tulsa too!!!!
@sonsofmeshack38034 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the click bait pic for this make these guys look like The Undertaker and his seady managers?
@Starchild6704 жыл бұрын
Humanism, skepticism, and science. Sign me up.
@martinm63684 жыл бұрын
Make sure to check the fine print before signing! At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Matt smuggled in a line which requires you to surrender to the higher power of the Google-Overlord.
@martinm63684 жыл бұрын
@Joe Horn it's a jab at Matts phone habits. I think this is the only event I've ever seen, live or on the internet, where the same phone has been the center of attention on the stage more than once.
@crassbusinessman31224 жыл бұрын
@JDO What the hell are you talking about?
@crassbusinessman31224 жыл бұрын
@JDO I know what the problem of induction is, I'm saying that your statement makes no sense. Science doesn't singularly address causality. Science is the systematic study of the world through observation and experimentation.
@badger12964 жыл бұрын
Atheist veterans and a secular sobriety. As a veteran, I say OUTSTANDING!
@popbklyn14 жыл бұрын
I blaspheme everyday sometimes twice a day ,just to make sure I dont come down with that evangelical bug goin round .
@broddr4 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy is like a neti pot -- kinda gross and not part of my culture; but both do help relieve pressure.
@kapnkerf25324 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy is a blast for me too!
@hairlips14 жыл бұрын
Sounds dumb and petty. I would expect that behavior for a teenage girl with father issues
@richardkranium29444 жыл бұрын
I dropped my hammer on my foot at work. Yelled god damn it. The kids there started trying to stone me.
@abelcainsbrother4 жыл бұрын
Well how do you know if you are right to be doing things like that being an atheist? I mean I know we all sin, but still...
@mudpiejones48424 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Bill Nye creation debate and there was a video of HItchens suggested next. Wow! one click and I've been an atheist for 3 years. But these 3 really helped me get through that beginning phase of leaving religion. Keep up the work guys!
@masonyeager92894 жыл бұрын
religion is the worship of a god. christianity is a religion.
@joseph-thewatcher4 жыл бұрын
Only speaking for myself, I'm glad that when I reached out to god for help and answers that I never got a response. It reassured me that my faith, trust and source for truth was misplaced. It freed me to be intellectually honest and open to concepts that would have been off limits otherwise. Each person has their own journey to make.
@CrackerCarl4 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day "god" gave us a brain to think with, right? How dare we use that brain and he punish us for using it.
@nikokapanen824 жыл бұрын
The reason you did not get the answer is because you did not want to get the answer. Its like my sister, she wanted to keep on partying and having fun so badly, that she "heard from God" after she prayed that she can go and do an abortion.
@dlon88994 жыл бұрын
@Richard M Agreed. This feeling is still part of my mindset. The hymns and biblical stories will always be a part of my life.
@andrewcurley50064 жыл бұрын
@@nikokapanen82 *The reason you did not get the answer is because you did not want to get the answer.* Geez. How arrogant and presumptuous do you have to be to assume that you can know what someone else's motivations and thoughts are?
@nikokapanen824 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcurley5006 Jesus does not lie. Everyone who truly seeks, will find.
@TheRaptorOfGaming4 жыл бұрын
(Haven't watched the video yet, but will watch it all later) Shouldn't this be called "The Unholy Trinity: The Second Coming"?
@jamesparson4 жыл бұрын
It is good
@faerie59264 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@krazyhorse4484 жыл бұрын
Poor Seth, after the mention of his dogs he was ready to cry for the rest of this talk, You could even hear it in his voice. Maybe he was just a little under the weather but he had me in tears too. They weren't even my dogs but I cried.
@benadams35694 жыл бұрын
When I reconnected with a friend from high school in 2011, he had been sober for six months and has not had a drink since November of 2010. In that month of 2019, his FIRST words when he was posting about his sober birthday "I couldn't have done it without God." I wanted to comment "NO, YOU DID IT!!!!!" However, we are in an area of the country close to where Seth lives, so people still believe the fairy tale..so I left it alone.
@RickReasonnz4 жыл бұрын
Just as bad is when someone goes through dangerous surgery, and they come out thanking god.... NO! Thank the fucking well-trained and experienced surgeon, you ass!
@losttribe30014 жыл бұрын
That’s why the first step of the 12 steps at AA, as Matt points out, needs to go away. But that’s what religion wants you to believe; that everything is beyond you.
@murderotica7244 жыл бұрын
Sounds like aa lingo. I been going to aa/na meetings for years and it is supposed to be a"spiritual, not religious program"but the big book of aa talks about spiritual awakening and finding a God of your understanding(whatever that means) all throughout.i really like the idea of secular sobriety meetings as Matt stated early on. I like the camaraderie and alot of the principles of aa. But then they close the meeting with prayer and it bothers me a lil
@parlamedia4 жыл бұрын
I have wondered if I would ask them how it would make them feel IF it actually was him/her with the help from their friends, family and perhaps some specialist, that they were able to stop alcoholism? Would it make them feel better or worse about it?
@richardkranium29444 жыл бұрын
Aron looks like he should bust out a guitar and start jamming.
@georgegordner77954 жыл бұрын
So many atheists are such good and moral people. I love you all. My father was an alcoholic and when I was about 14 I attended my first al-anon meeting. I remember it because the leader said that he was an atheist and his higher power was the coffee pot. And yes I read it all, religious and atheist, however, my Christian friend will not real atheist literature. I sent my friend a video by Seth, and he told me to stay away from him, that he was evil and working for the devil. Is it just me or does that just sound stupid and closed minded.
@heatherb8124 жыл бұрын
They have to be closed minded in order to maintain the charade. The second you open yourself up to other viewpoints and possibilities as a Christian, some part of your religious faith will fracture or fray. Saying people are “of the devil” is just a very convenient way of excusing themselves from having their faith challenged.
@InformationIsTheEdge4 жыл бұрын
Anyone that has listened to Seth Andrews speak on the matter of family, community, his own notion of progress as a nation, health, medicine or anything really, no healthy person could find evil in that.
@metroidmayhem84634 жыл бұрын
Both
@BlackEpyon4 жыл бұрын
All praise to the almighty coffee pot!
@derekmizer62934 жыл бұрын
Any information that challenges their indoctrination causes them to fear it is from the devil.
@knightbook10034 жыл бұрын
We wanted to go so bad, but couldn’t. I love all of you, but especially Seth. Please come to Kansas City!!🥰🤘You guys rock.
@AugustBug564 жыл бұрын
Yes!! The Ultimate Atheist Trifecta!
@kalibr45404 жыл бұрын
A Bug's Life *cries in Dawkins*
@AudiophileTubes4 жыл бұрын
Dawkins, Hitchens, Shermer
@YouHolli4 жыл бұрын
Secular Sobriaty, eh? I'd love to have a german chapter, but I am afraid the abreviation is kinda burned here.
@RickReasonnz4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, you want to come to Secular Sobriety with me?" "Yes, let us all go to the SS meeting!"
@unicyclist974 жыл бұрын
"Are you coming to the SS meeting?" "Jawohl, mein Kommandant."
@seanjones24564 жыл бұрын
@Feiner Fug Confucius says, "Man who keeps hand in pocket, can feel cocky all day."
@anderslofgren82354 жыл бұрын
Being a life long atheist you guys are still a huge inspiration and a source of knowledge for when i engage in discussions in life or on Twitter, so thank you for your hard work! And I'm very happy I live in a secular country where religion is firmly put into and stays in churches!
@joheyjonsson28254 жыл бұрын
My husband and I have taken the stance to give his cousin's kids as many science related books we can get away with, just to keep them curious and eager to find things out. And there are so many children appropriate science books out there.
@warmweeniesdoxiesweaters28844 жыл бұрын
I recommend "Grandmother Fish" by Jonathan Tweet
@joheyjonsson28254 жыл бұрын
@@warmweeniesdoxiesweaters2884 Thank you. I'll absolutely try to find that one for them. Looks amazing. For Christmas, we got the kids "Armstrong: The Adventurous Journey of a Mouse to the Moon" and "Edison: The Mystery of the Missing Mouse Treasure" by Torben Kuhlmann. The year before, we got them a pop-up book on how animals live and two astronomi books.
@derekmizer62934 жыл бұрын
Great idea!!!
@derekmizer62934 жыл бұрын
@David Anewman science does not require anything spiritual, whatever that means. No science book has ever concluded "oh, look, god dun it" ever.
@derekmizer62934 жыл бұрын
@David Anewman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 creation scientists conclude that but they are not scientist that creation isny science. Hahahahahhas
@blackice90883 жыл бұрын
I give all three of these men the utmost respect as I have learned a lot from them. They have also shown me that I am not alone, there is a community of atheists and skeptics out there. I am very glad that I found my way to their channels here at KZbin! You guys are awesome and thank you all for everything you do!
@lisaspikes42914 жыл бұрын
People come so far because WE LOVE YOU GUYS!!!! Just incase you had any doubts.🥰
@CharlesB-NGNM3 жыл бұрын
I love these guys....
@budd2nd4 жыл бұрын
I’m a little confused, can anyone help please. My mum was a sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous for 37 years here in the UK, she was to her core an atheist. When I asked her about AA’s stance on God, she said that it was an atheist community, but they talked about drawing strength from a higher power but that the higher power was the members of AA itself. So my confusion is about the structure of AA in the States, has God somehow snuck in?
@42mart424 жыл бұрын
The AA was started by a couple of christians, so the intention from the start was to bring god into it, but these days it often depends on the group and where in the world it is, your mum probably just got lucky. Seth did an interview with a guy about this a couple of years ago if you're interested, it's called 12 steps and beyond if you want to search for it.
@rorytennes85764 жыл бұрын
AA is based in religion. Ie belief in a higher power and here in Texas that would be god. Or they will shun you. Most of them anyway. Now there are a couple of AA groups I have heard of that claim to be secular but I am not sure how they get around the whole higher power part of the creed.
@budd2nd4 жыл бұрын
Martin Joss Thanks Martin and Rory, thanks for clearing that up for me. My mum isn’t alive anymore but I’d still be interested in watching that. I’ll look for it, hopefully it’s here on KZbin.
@budd2nd4 жыл бұрын
And I’ll add a (maybe) funny story, she had always said paying lots of money to dispose of anyone’s carcass was a total waste of time and money. So when she died my Dad found an Undertaker that would collect and cremate her for $1,290. As a family we knew that she was gone, what was left was just a meat suit. Fast forward 18 months and the crematorium contacted him asking if he was coming to collect her ashes. His classic reply was “just throw it in the rubbish bin, it’s just ash” needless to say they weren’t expecting that! 👍
@Huntermaro4 жыл бұрын
Alex, you are in no position to talk about wisdom with the utter bullshit and condescending garbage you just spewed. Go back to your creationist channels and fuck off.
@MP-cv5tc Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love you guys . As an ex Jehovah’s Witness, the training was to always go back to those people because the circumstances will always change and there would be an opportunity for us to preach to them because they would be more willing to accept what the Bible says . They would be more perceptive , the idea was that everyone would have a moment of weakness due to our everyday problems when we put our guard down and are more willing to accept , this is how they got me and most of the congregation adults . You guys are doing an excellent job and I thank you very much , love you all ❤
@dianegaus35614 жыл бұрын
I apologized to all 3 of my kids. I said that I felt i was doing the right thing at the time. That's all you can do. Be honest. We're all human. Hopefully, they will do better with their own children.
@carolbroadribb46304 жыл бұрын
Diane Gaus, I apologized to my kids too. I blush with embarrassment and cringe when I replay some talks I had with them. They have been so gracious and forgiven me. I was washed clean of my brainwashing parental sin.
@patricianorwood10754 жыл бұрын
Patrick was working so we couldn't come but we are listening to it now and laughing along with you guys. Seth, Aron-Ra, Matt you are all such wonderful people and I love all your videos.
@RichD7464 жыл бұрын
The question about Seth's dogs was great. Forgot about seeing that Van on his facebook and was wondering the exact same thing at the time.