Where did French come from?

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@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 3 жыл бұрын
Which language history should I make a video about next? 🤔🌏
@tamannajaiswal1725
@tamannajaiswal1725 2 жыл бұрын
Hindi ~India
@Exsecrabilis
@Exsecrabilis 2 жыл бұрын
04/01/2022 @ 0017- Nahuatl Portuguese Hopi 🤓
@davidbeattie1366
@davidbeattie1366 2 жыл бұрын
How about Catalán or Portuguese which descended from Vulgar Latin but differently than did Spanish. Thanks
@moimacart
@moimacart 2 жыл бұрын
Swedish, Norwegian and Danish.
@rifatalmahmudshanto561
@rifatalmahmudshanto561 2 жыл бұрын
Bengali
@yasserj2144
@yasserj2144 4 жыл бұрын
As a french teacher ; im very impressed with the amount of research and work put into this. I learned a lot myself, thank you
@clairejonas6125
@clairejonas6125 4 жыл бұрын
really ? it's a joke I suppose... if not, what kind of teacher are you :-(
@Showwieh
@Showwieh 4 жыл бұрын
@@clairejonas6125 just because you know how to speak a language does not mean you know it's origins or how it came to be
@clairejonas6125
@clairejonas6125 4 жыл бұрын
@@Showwieh But if you have learn linguistic of your langage ? Is it to ?
@GoToMan
@GoToMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@clairejonas6125 To teach French you don't study its ancestry not this guy neither 10+ tutors I have seen in Italki tio
@henriquesmart9140
@henriquesmart9140 4 жыл бұрын
@@clairejonas6125 or not...his name is a clue...
@msamour
@msamour 4 жыл бұрын
Wait! You forgot that there was one village of "irréductible Gaulois" that refused to be invaded by the Romans. That is where Asterix and Obelix are from.
@vincentlefebvre9255
@vincentlefebvre9255 4 жыл бұрын
That village in reality is Québec !
@rrs_13
@rrs_13 4 жыл бұрын
In western continental europe, the only actual place where that could've hapened was in modern day basque country. Still, everyone was at least a tributary/protectorate of the romans.
@Tamère353
@Tamère353 4 жыл бұрын
@@vincentlefebvre9255 ptdrr j'adore xdd
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 4 жыл бұрын
@@rrs_13 Well thats not true.
@enricogolini5376
@enricogolini5376 4 жыл бұрын
​@Ragnar Ulrichson Yeah. I'd like to add that modern 'Bretons' must not be confused wil old 'Celts' from Asterix either (Grosso modo around -50BC as they mention Jules Cesar and Vercingetorix). Actually, Brittany received an influx of people from Britannia(Modern UK) around 500CE.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the south west of France where the old folks speak a patois derived from Occitan. I had a friend from the valley of Prali (not too far from Turin, in his valley they all speak a Patois, Piemontese, French and Italian). He came to my place, over 1000km away, and could converse with my neighbor's mother each in their own patois. I also worked in St Moritz (Switzerland) where they speak Romanch. Some friends from Barcelona came to visit, (Catalan speakers) they could read the newspaper written in Romanch. They could barely understand it when spoken, they said it sounded like Catalan spoken with a thick german accent. They all derive from the Langue d'Oc: Patois, Occitan, Catalan, Balearic, Sarde, Aranese, Provencal, Romanch and more.
@erickfp
@erickfp 4 жыл бұрын
I think you could give these the status of language, not patois, as I'm sure you know it's a derogatory term.
@nni9310
@nni9310 4 жыл бұрын
My parents are from Calabria. I heard some Welsh spoken (on TV, by Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor's husband) (it sounded like "to mer moruu") and understood it without problem as it sounded very similar to my parents' dialect.
@nni9310
@nni9310 4 жыл бұрын
If by "Sarde" you mean Sardinian, as far as I know, it's far closer to Latin than any living Romance language.
@fwcolb
@fwcolb 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing contribution to this lecture.
@francinesicard464
@francinesicard464 4 жыл бұрын
Correct! And if you speak French and Italian, it's even easier to understand some Romanche (Rumantsh) the 4th Swiss Federal language spoken in some part of the Grisons (Graubunden)
@pauloperes9378
@pauloperes9378 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how the people managed to change the word "aqua" to "eau" and pronounce it as /o/. It's funny to think about it.
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty crazy eh? One of my favourite websites is the Wiktionary (en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page) where you can look for the history of most words in several different languages (including the major romance and germanic languages). Not sure if you speak any Spanish or Italian, but aqua can be seen pretty clearly in those languages (agua and acqua respectively). But when you compare with French eau, at first glance, it's hard to imagine how they can be related. My guess is that aqua became agua in Gaul, then the g became /ɣ/ and eventually just got deleted from the work altogether. And then the word aua went through some other transformations to arrive at eau. Funny things happen in words without consonants haha!
@Xerxes2005
@Xerxes2005 4 жыл бұрын
According to the "Centre national de ressources textuelles et lexicales," aqua became agua, then egua (circa 1050 A.D.), then ewe (circa 1100 A.D.), then eaue (1185), and finally eau (1490). However, I know that in the XIIth century, all letters in a word were pronounced and those groups of vowels were diphtongues or even triphtongues. Which means that the were all pronounced in the same syllable. Therefore, "eau" may have been pronounced something like [yaw]. I imagin that it morphed into [aw] before ending in [o].
@pauloperes9378
@pauloperes9378 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xerxes2005 fascinating
@Furienna
@Furienna 4 жыл бұрын
"Å" is the Swedish word for "creek" and has the same origin and pronounciation as the French Word "eau".
@JackWalshissupercool
@JackWalshissupercool 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist that's interesting to know! My first guess would of been a Celtic origin, thus taking the long route to connect it to Irish "uisce".
@MHTutorials3D
@MHTutorials3D 4 жыл бұрын
Your production value is phenomenal
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@troiscarottes
@troiscarottes 4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit !
@troiscarottes
@troiscarottes 3 жыл бұрын
@@colettesini9480 Oui maîtresse. Bien maîtresse !. Would "horseshit" sound less offensive to your chaste ears?
@ian-hm6cx
@ian-hm6cx 4 жыл бұрын
Could've sworn I was watching a video with upwards of 100k views because of the quality. Keep it up man
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words man! Feel free to share my video. Maybe someday I’ll get too 100K 😁
@J11_boohoo
@J11_boohoo 4 жыл бұрын
me too!! I thought this was a big channel!
@J11_boohoo
@J11_boohoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist I suggest showing your subscriber count I think that will help cause if I would've known you were still a small I would've subscribe immediately to help out
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
@@J11_boohoo Good idea! Will do :) Thanks
@skaigreen
@skaigreen 4 жыл бұрын
That's true...
@QuietFries
@QuietFries 4 жыл бұрын
Why does English have the American Flag and not the British one?
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
No specific reason! 🙂 I flip flop between the British and American flags representing English in my videos. But in reality, I’m Canadian, so I’d like to use the Canadian flag (since I speak Canadian English). But the Canadian flag could represent either English or French.
@Mi_Fa_Volare
@Mi_Fa_Volare 4 жыл бұрын
It is soo simple. That's because America superseded in significance over GB. Meaningless Great Britain is now, English language is no more shown with Union Jack or English flag to represent it. Do you live under a rock? You see the US flag representing English language quite often.
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 4 жыл бұрын
Should be the flag of England.
@Matthew-pw3ng
@Matthew-pw3ng 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows what Prince Charles said about American English. We don't speak English here, we just speak the language of the Colonists, and a few more Colonists, and a couple more Colonists.
@cellgrrl
@cellgrrl 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew-pw3ng I wonder what his opinion is of Australians? You know, the convicts? I have been told but don't know if it is true, but most Americans can confuse Australian with British English.(I know sometimes I do) And that the Australians think Americans sound British! No way!
@skaccomatto86
@skaccomatto86 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the dialects spoken in some portions of center-north Italy are part of the Gallo-Italic languages. The dialect spoken in my region (Emilia Romagna) has a lot of common features with French, such as verbs, nouns and the phenomenon of nasalization. For examples, the numbers are almost the same of the French numbers (not in the written form of course, but in spoken dialect the similarities are very impressive).
@2608heinz
@2608heinz 4 жыл бұрын
Italian and french languages are similar almost 80%. Dialects too
@skaccomatto86
@skaccomatto86 4 жыл бұрын
@@2608heinz right, but the similarities between french and gallo-italic dialetcs are even more evident. Other dialects (central and southern) are more far from french and mostly share the latin roots with french, rather than a strict french influence
@2608heinz
@2608heinz 4 жыл бұрын
@@skaccomatto86 ...i think occitan and catalan more than french
@skaccomatto86
@skaccomatto86 4 жыл бұрын
@@2608heinz I tried to speak my dialect with a friend from Barcellona bit still have to admit that the similarities are stronger with French (thus confirmed by an italian-french friend who Is fluent in italian and romagnolo dialect)... perhaps with occitan, I'll ask him
@hicetnuncmonamour
@hicetnuncmonamour 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point ! thanks for sharing.
@MapsCharts
@MapsCharts 4 жыл бұрын
As a French I even learned things. The amount of work and the quality of this video are amazing. I hope you'll get more subs, anyway I subbed.
@karmakanic
@karmakanic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. There aren't enough videos like this on the transition from late Latin into Early Romance with a good amount of detail. Keep it up!
@troiscarottes
@troiscarottes 4 жыл бұрын
Oh! And what exactly did you learn in this video ? Some people are easily satisfied. That must feel good !
@karmakanic
@karmakanic 4 жыл бұрын
@@troiscarottes Wow. So incredibly rude it's practically laughable. You have got to be kidding me-this is how you speak to total strangers? Were you raised in a barn?
@troiscarottes
@troiscarottes 4 жыл бұрын
@@karmakanic I was, but I learned a lot about foreign languages (and mine) in that barn, whereas you are obviously impervious to them, and probably to knowledge in general, judging by your reaction.
@pol...
@pol... 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you mentioned Occitan, but it would have been nice if you had specified that Occitan was the main language of a big part of France until the 20th century and it's still spoken today.
@alexlee7168
@alexlee7168 4 жыл бұрын
45 regional languages ?
@pol...
@pol... 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexlee7168 ?
@louisg6296
@louisg6296 4 жыл бұрын
@@pol... I think he's saying that occitan wasnt and still isn't an unified language
@mathewvanostin7118
@mathewvanostin7118 Жыл бұрын
Lol occitan was only used in south of france for territories near mediteranian sea There was also lot of latin dialect in other parts of france. That was just discarded by history For example north of france spoke chti dialect. During the 1900s it was really made fun of in lot of french medias The north-center west of france spoke latin dialect similar to quebec french. Since most french settlers came from west parts of france cause this was were the ports were like. And there was no train at the time. So french people living far away for atlantic really didnt bother
@vincentlasnier1353
@vincentlasnier1353 Жыл бұрын
@@mathewvanostin7118 Occitan is not only spoken in the Mediterranean parts! All the map showing the Langue d'Oc, still speak Occitan dialects today! Even in a part of the French Basque Country and its surroundings Gascon is spoken (in addition to Basque of course)!! there are different, patois derived from Occitan which is the first language : the Béarnais, the Landais, the Limousin, the Provençal, the Alpine languages, Auvergnat, and I'm sure I'm forgetting more are Occitan! The Occitan language, extends from the Atlantic to Bordeaux to the south of Lyon in the Alps, to the Italian border (as far as the northern border is concerned), and in the south the border of this language being obviously the Pyrenees and the Mediterranean Sea !! ;)
@nqh4393
@nqh4393 4 жыл бұрын
Had Occitan triumphed over Parisian, French would've sounded much more similar to other romance languages nowadays.
@Cjnw
@Cjnw 4 жыл бұрын
Paríso, la cità de las lumieres!
@rrs_13
@rrs_13 4 жыл бұрын
So, french would've actually sounded good? 0.o
@benlucas3625
@benlucas3625 4 жыл бұрын
It does sound like them.
@Itachi951000
@Itachi951000 4 жыл бұрын
@Ragnar Ulrichson Huehuehuehuehuehue comedy genius /s
@damedepique327
@damedepique327 4 жыл бұрын
@Ragnar Ulrichson Still the same pathetic joke.
@thetoweroffreedom9732
@thetoweroffreedom9732 4 жыл бұрын
I’m from Switzerland and I my grandmother speaks patois. It was only spoken between the people from villages or in countrysides (people from the cities all spoke French). Patois was banned after the French Revolution in an attempt to “unify” everyone by having everyone speak Parisian, the “noble” language spoke by the King. My grandma speaks French because she learned it in school, but otherwise she mostly spoke patois. I have spoken with many elderly patois-speakers and they have all told me their stories on how the teachers would punish a student if he spoke patois, how it was hard for them not to speak it in school since most of them didn’t know a single word in French as they had all grown up learning only patois. Soon, many parents would limit the patois at home and try to speak French as much as possible. Anyways, it’s really sad seeing such an old and beautiful language from my country slowly disappear... it’s what happens to many dialects; it isn’t needed in the world so people don’t bother teaching it to their children... I hope you thought this was interesting!
@thetoweroffreedom9732
@thetoweroffreedom9732 4 жыл бұрын
@@iyzabel yes, it’s truly sad what a linguistic groupe had to go through... so sad to think about this culture that will one day be completely lost...
@firepod21
@firepod21 4 жыл бұрын
This patois is called “francoprovençal” or also “arpitan”. Spoken in east France, Switzerland and northern Italy
@hotspur666
@hotspur666 Жыл бұрын
Speaking ''Parisian'' in Canada make every body laughing...(Too effete!)
@marie-christinelange131
@marie-christinelange131 Жыл бұрын
OUI, TRÈS INTÉRESSANT !!@ Pareil pour les bretons : interdiction de parler breton à l'école car il fallait UNIFIER LE PAYS mais, dans les familles, on parlait breton...
@ommsterlitz1805
@ommsterlitz1805 Жыл бұрын
Franco provençal spoken from Auvergne to Switzerland and Vallée d'Aoste
@Tranxhead
@Tranxhead 4 жыл бұрын
Gaulish had more likeness with Welsh, Cornish and Breton than the Gaelics.
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the Romans noted how similar the ancient British language was to Gaulish, not only this but a faction of Celtic language scholars believe celtic can be divided between Q and P Celtic branches in which P has the common innovations of Kw -> P and Mr/Ml -> Br/Bl as well as a few other distinctions...
@jfjoubertquebec
@jfjoubertquebec 4 жыл бұрын
Yes... Gaulish closer to Brythonic... p-Celtic not q-Celtic. In Québec, as in Poitou (Western France) we say "garrocher" to throw away violently and with disdain. May very well be linked to "garw" in Welsh meaning "rough, violent, coarse"
@Mvenven
@Mvenven 4 жыл бұрын
Well they're all completely separate branches of the Celtic family.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 4 жыл бұрын
@@jfjoubertquebec loup- garou
@jfjoubertquebec
@jfjoubertquebec 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherellis2663 garde-robe
@XE1GXG
@XE1GXG 4 жыл бұрын
As a Spanish speaker, I am interested in other sister languages. Nice work!
@fenrirgg
@fenrirgg 4 жыл бұрын
As another Spanish speaker I'm interested in "why do they have frogs in their throats?"
@XE1GXG
@XE1GXG 4 жыл бұрын
@@fenrirgg Ser multilingüe es no sólo un privilegio, es una responsabilidad. Los que somos estudiosos del latín habemos un interes inagotable para con los idiomas derivados de éste. Y sí, también para con el inglés. Saludos
@afrocyberdelia
@afrocyberdelia 4 жыл бұрын
@@XE1GXG tu castellano es caca, imagino tu Latin....
@XE1GXG
@XE1GXG 4 жыл бұрын
@@afrocyberdelia Supongo que usted es Peninsular o argentino, porque la pedantería no es dominio exclusivo de nosotros en México...chale...
@AlltNorrOmAleArNorrland
@AlltNorrOmAleArNorrland 2 жыл бұрын
@@fenrirgg probably because the Parisian elite where Franks, with other words they were Germanic. So they spoke with a strong Germanic accent. Hence the “frogs in the throat”. Nowadays Parisian French is Standard French. Southern French sounds much more like Catalan. And SouthEast French sound more like Italian.
@alexandermayes4957
@alexandermayes4957 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing I'd say is this skips over the centuries of French centralisation which was based around national identity and therefore language - that's a huge reason why languages already dying out of use were basically killed off (so few Breton and Occitan speakers exist now because of government policy ostracising their use).
@nco1970
@nco1970 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I just posted about that. The imposition of French in the 19th century during the process to create a French identity after the loss against Prussia.
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq 4 жыл бұрын
As late as the 18th century there were large parts of England and France that largely spoke the informal dialects. (Compare them to regional Italian dialects today.)
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@nco1970 Yes and No: in fact the process started in the 16th century but was completed before the loss against Prussia in 1870. In the Napoleonic period, the French armies were speaking French although the regional languages were still used locally. By the way everybody in the European aristocracy was speaking French at the time: it's amazing to know that in the famous battle of Austerlitz (French against Austrians and Russians), somehow everybody was speaking French on the battlefield ...
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 Жыл бұрын
For Briton, half brittany was speaking a gallo romance dialect named gallo (which was langue d'oïl family language), end never really spoke Briton which is look liking Welsh and was mainly speak in the west and had also many variants. Britons were kind of invaders and were representing the local elites but in east brittany the people always spoke a romance language.
@alexandermayes4957
@alexandermayes4957 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaslacornette1282 I mean calling the Bretons invaders doesn’t really track with the timeline of the topic we were discussing. Settlers speaking Celtic languages were there during the Roman times so it’s not fair to write it off. The whole point is that eventually the Duchy of Brittany moved to use French as it’s official language in kind with French centralisation, and that really up until the 20th century Breton like other regional dialects and languages was systematically forced out of use as a way to centralise a national identity around French. Whilst there’s revival efforts today, French unlike English for example went through a huge codification and centralisation effort which needed to remove other languages late in its development due to it being a key component of what is French national identity. Besides, you can extend the point to Gallo that you mentioned - less than 200k native speakers a few years back and the language is dying, again due to the way French centralised. Was just an interesting point that got glossed over by the video, nothing more :)
@sadalbatross846
@sadalbatross846 4 жыл бұрын
“Where did the french come from”? Africa: we wonder that too
@vSpag_
@vSpag_ 4 жыл бұрын
Daaang WWII Reference
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 4 жыл бұрын
@@vSpag_ More like XIXth century, but yeah, works for the "siege" (bluff) of Kuffra as well ^^
@vSpag_
@vSpag_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cancoillotteman ^^^
@ROBYNMARKOW
@ROBYNMARKOW 4 жыл бұрын
@@vSpag_ It's bcuz France has (or had) Colonies in Africa ( like Senegal)
@vSpag_
@vSpag_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@ROBYNMARKOW well thats what i mean cuz they got knocked out of mainland by germoney and had only parts of the colonies left to attack with(until USA came in and "saved" the day"
@johnprentice1527
@johnprentice1527 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, clear and concise. I wasn't sure how much information could be conveyed in 10 minutes, but boy did you deliver! Thanks.
@zsoltsandor3814
@zsoltsandor3814 4 жыл бұрын
Franch: a Latin-offspring, evolved among Celtic Gauls, adopted by Germanic Franks, named after the latter, except for the linguistic specialties, characteristics, manners, because those are called Gallicisms, yet French itself is full of Germanisms (eg. the obligatory personal pronoun).
@lylecosmopolite
@lylecosmopolite 4 жыл бұрын
French vowels include the Germanic umlauted a (spelled "é" in French), o (spelled "eu" in French) and u (spelled "u" in French; the u sound of other Romance languages is spelled "ou" in French).
@fwcolb
@fwcolb 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comments, both. Thanks.
@yasserj2144
@yasserj2144 4 жыл бұрын
1% - 1.3 % of all french words are inspired by germanic dialect. The people of Alsace-Lorraine have german names because their backgrounds are predominantly German
@DB-jj5gx
@DB-jj5gx 4 жыл бұрын
@@lylecosmopolite Yep - sort of german pronunciation of a gallo-roman language. Another giveaway is the letter R, which is totally hard in french, more "german-style", and not rolling like all the other latin-derived languages (italian spanish etc..). "Musicality" is also closer to german, and further from italian. Funny, and difficult, language in the end...
@KamilaSousamusic
@KamilaSousamusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@yasserj2144 I think he isn't talking about vocabulary, but about pronunciation and some grammatical aspects.
@jxyzbxt2355
@jxyzbxt2355 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! And absolutely amazig french pronunciation for what I assume to be a native English speakers (and probably even American). KUDOS! very well done :)
@shaide5483
@shaide5483 4 жыл бұрын
RIP to other Gallo-Romances languages & Occitan, not being learned enough as French is.
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! I’ve always wondered what Dalmatian would sound like today. Even though its not Gallo-Romance, it is an extinct Romance language.
@shaide5483
@shaide5483 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope other people can learn some the other languages
@xolang
@xolang 4 жыл бұрын
it is ironic to see how France tries to "protect" French, which considering its position needs no protection IMO, whilst at the same time eliminates its own indigenous languages such as Occitan, Arpitan, Basque, Breton and Catalan.
@hiskakun2276
@hiskakun2276 4 жыл бұрын
Catalan is still widely spoken. But it’s getting more and more castillian influence, that I think is separating from the gallo-romance branch and slowly entering the ibero-romance branch.
@eb.3764
@eb.3764 4 жыл бұрын
@@hiskakun2276 Gramatically it's still gallo not ibero.
@Vandan9166
@Vandan9166 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've always been intrigued by the etymology of language and the formation of countries.
@raymendez3403
@raymendez3403 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve way more views than you have! This video is perfect, it's informative and fun to watch, easy to keep up and the animations is great. Might be because I love languages and history but 9k views you deserve a million! Here's my like, my sub and comment altogether lol
@tahirawanga2466
@tahirawanga2466 4 жыл бұрын
u are so good at speaking french like ur accent is exellent as a french person im impressed
@ItWayTooEarlyForThis
@ItWayTooEarlyForThis 4 жыл бұрын
This popped up in my recommended feed and I really enjoyed it. Can’t wait to check out more of your content.
@tiadeets
@tiadeets 4 жыл бұрын
A good video. It is to be noted that Villers-Cotterêts (to be pronounced "Vilère" and not with a "y" sound) only talked about official documents and regional languages, dialects, and patois continued to be spoken by pretty much everyone until the French Revolution when people were forced to give up their own languages, dialects, and patois to unify France. Something that is still being felt today (France still isn't respecting or supporting regional languages)
@anschu876
@anschu876 4 жыл бұрын
As a Jamaican, I certainly wasn’t expecting the mention of our languages. Good stuff! (Or, in Jamaican, I can say “mi rate dis!”) 😄
@leohochhauser
@leohochhauser 4 жыл бұрын
Pronounciation of the word combo: langue d’oïl. The letter combination of “o ï l” may not be pronounced as “o i l”. The 2 dots on the letter i denote that it must be pronounced like the English “ee”, similar to the German, Spanish and the French “ i ” as in “isle de france” where the “ i ”sounds like the English “ee” but not like the English “ i ” as in island. The “l” after “ ï “ should be pronounced in French like a double ll after an i (as in Braille) with a sound like “y” as in the letter combination “oy”. From there the sound shift to “oui” is easy to understand. I’m not a linguist but did have some exposure to the development of Romance languages at school in Germany 60 years ago.
@oligarcaz
@oligarcaz 4 жыл бұрын
This ï might also refer to an S : OISL [oil] or [ojl] ?
@leohochhauser
@leohochhauser 4 жыл бұрын
@@oligarcaz The letter "â" denotes the missing letter "s" as in pâques a derivative of the Latin pasqua. Same for "ê" as in évêque from the Latin episcopus.
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a linguist either but I'm French and I'm impressed with your knowledge. I knew that but many young French people don't. Congratulations
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@leohochhauser That's right, derivative from Latin or even an evolution from old French. Evêque is right but not as obvious as pâques or "hôpital" from hospital although the "s" remains in some related words like "hospitalier" (as "hospital staff"), "hospitaliser" meaning "to admit a patient to the hospital", "hospitalité" meaning taking care of the guests. Also "hôtel" from hostel which goes back to the Latin "hospitale", meaning guest house. You can find the old word "hostellerie" used again but referring now to a "luxury hotel". Etc ...
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 2 жыл бұрын
Oïl was first pronounced like the english word oil. Then the stress went from the O to the Ï.
@johnvaughan7096
@johnvaughan7096 4 жыл бұрын
Very high quality linguistic presentation. Not often seen in modern times. Well done!
@itsmeiamb
@itsmeiamb 4 жыл бұрын
This was informative and entertaining. Paced beautifully, with animation that was fun. Thank you
@tysonl.taylor-gerstner1558
@tysonl.taylor-gerstner1558 4 жыл бұрын
Although your focus was on the development of French, I think it is important to point out that the language spoken by the Franks was not "German" but "Germanic" They spoke a dialect that gave rise to the Dutch-Flemish language and includes dialects still spoken by minority language communities in Norhtern and Eastern France. It would have shown the importance of understanding why why there are regional differences in Languages that produce National languages of today rather than indirectly/negligently insinuating that the Latin language drifted while the Germans spoke German. You did clear it up at the End by saying no language is immune (my wording) to language drift. Please do a video about codeswitching though. I mean I could do it, but I like the way you explain, and I am the lazy linguist LOL
@MrMorgan316
@MrMorgan316 2 жыл бұрын
The language group you're speaking about is Old Franconian. And yes. Franconian is exactly what you think it is...Frankish( German dialect) in Germany, Old Old Saxon which broke up into Saxon(or low German) and old dutch dialects. Then dutch broke up into 2 dialects, Common Dutch and Flemish. And obviously Common Dutch created Afrikaans later on. But Old Franconian is technically a dialect of Proto Western Germanic just like Anglo-Saxon however the old Franconian speakers eventually became nationalistic within the Germanic realm and became Franconian-Germans. The Franconians are the Germanic people that invaded the Gallic and Latin Region of modern day France. In modern day France in the northern portion there still is a lot of Frankish Origin words spoken there. The region of Alcace Lorain (idk how to spell it) is a region often disputed between the french and germans. But Frankish is spoken there along with Luxembourg who claim their Dialect of German Is a seperate language... it's not
@lodewijkvandoornik3844
@lodewijkvandoornik3844 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMorgan316 Frankish or Franconian is not a German dialect. What do you mean by "German dialect" ? German as standard German language? Germanic is different as German. It is like Romans and Romanians. It is related but different. So different. First there are low Frankish and high Frankish dialects. Low Frankish is the original language of Franks. The saliens and merovegians. Those have invaded Gauls. That language gave Dutch and Flemish (there some part of Flemish in northern France). Then you have high Frankish dialects. These dialects like alsacians are called Frankish because some Franks families start speaking it (as Franks speak language of the land they conquered, they were not able to impose their language and identity). A frank family that did it was the Carolingian, they spoke a langue different from their predecessors. That's why you found some dialect in Germany (and Eastern France Alsace) called Frankish/Franconian. It is more because they invaded these lands than a origin of Franks. Franks came from salse: Nederland long to the Rhin.
@afjo972
@afjo972 Жыл бұрын
@@lodewijkvandoornik3844 Not true. There is a German dialect called Frankish, spoken in Franconia, which, however, heavily differs from what’s the predecessor language of Dutch.
@pavolkocis7456
@pavolkocis7456 Жыл бұрын
All western Europe and Scandinavia are German origin. Also, the majority in Spain and Italy too.
@anthoprsp
@anthoprsp Жыл бұрын
I'm from northern France and my grand grand mother spoke a dialect which is very close to actual flemish. It's fascinating to see that even after 2000's some ppl in France were still speaking this germanic dialect !
@morilea
@morilea 4 жыл бұрын
As a Jamaican I prove 🇯🇲❤️
@albertmutton1687
@albertmutton1687 4 жыл бұрын
Beer can = bacon is a well known example
@morilea
@morilea 4 жыл бұрын
@@albertmutton1687 what do mean?
@albertmutton1687
@albertmutton1687 4 жыл бұрын
Try saying 'bacon' with a Jamaican accent and not end up saying 'beer can' :-)
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 4 жыл бұрын
bumbaclot
@morilea
@morilea 4 жыл бұрын
@@albertmutton1687 ahhh i hear it. But bcuz of the -r it sounds off 😂
@simko8665
@simko8665 4 жыл бұрын
From France, if I'm not mistaken.
@jonathanrouse36
@jonathanrouse36 4 жыл бұрын
Well... that's an overly simplistic answer. The language was developing and evolving long before there was a "France" as the nation we know today.
@Olivia-rc2ro
@Olivia-rc2ro 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheIsraelMendoza
@TheIsraelMendoza 4 жыл бұрын
More like _The Carolongian Empire_
@mariavalentinaisea6395
@mariavalentinaisea6395 4 жыл бұрын
i was just about to comment that lmaoo
@michaelstephan5685
@michaelstephan5685 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done! You did a great job, and helped me explain to a student what verbal explanation and reading didn't clarify. Thank you ... your motivation in language inspires. *grateful smile*
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael! 😄
@chrism.t.7726
@chrism.t.7726 4 жыл бұрын
Super vidéo! C'est à la fois instructif et divertissant :)
@andrefmartin
@andrefmartin 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to find out a video with more details on how the old substract languages shaped and framed the Latin-Gallo-Romance languages. I mean, what characterists and aspects are still present in the current French language that reveal its "barbarian" origin!
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a great question! I wonder if maybe the reason why French sounds so different than the other latin languages is the result of extended contact with Germanic languages (like the uvular R and weakening of the ends of most French words)
@andrefmartin
@andrefmartin 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist For example, it is clair that French negation expression "ne (verb) pas" comes from the similar expression such as in Breton "ne (verb) ket". So, whatelse?
@andrefmartin
@andrefmartin 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist Another exemple, I guess, when the French speakers say "Moi, je pense que ..", this reinforcement of the subject at the begin of the phrases, as the most important part to be highlighted
@Louisianish
@Louisianish 4 жыл бұрын
andrefmartin That exists in Spanish as well, although it’s not quite as common. Example: "A mi, me gusta leer."
@Louisianish
@Louisianish 4 жыл бұрын
andrefmartin That’s really cool about the way negation is formed in Breton! Moi, je ne le savais pas!
@Maximillienifyx
@Maximillienifyx 4 жыл бұрын
C'est très intéressant, merci bien ^^
@ricois3
@ricois3 4 жыл бұрын
Latin is not a dead language, it's an immortal language
@bluepapaya77
@bluepapaya77 4 жыл бұрын
Latin's a dead language It's dead as dead can be It killed off all the Romans And now it's killing me.
@daPawlak
@daPawlak 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluepapaya77 in Polish: Łacina martwy język, Dziś każdy o tym wie. Samarytan dobił, Dobija teraz mnie. I think there is a version of this ryme in all european langages.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 4 жыл бұрын
Roma eterna
@shaungordon9737
@shaungordon9737 4 жыл бұрын
No one speaks it as a native or daily language, which in linguistics is a dead language
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaungordon9737 I've heard that there are a couple of clerics in Vatican City said to speak Latin as daily language. But I don't know for sure, it might just be a rumour.
@MarkTodd-g4h
@MarkTodd-g4h 3 ай бұрын
You’ve clarified so many points for me!
@maiaallman4635
@maiaallman4635 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@Nubrezyu
@Nubrezyu 3 жыл бұрын
I'm italian from North. My ancestors were venetic and Cisalpine Gauls. Greetings my Gallic Transalpine Brothers. ☺️
@smal750
@smal750 11 ай бұрын
italians arent gauls and arent related to the french at all your tweaking
@RD-jc2eu
@RD-jc2eu 6 ай бұрын
@@smal750 There are multiple original ethnic groups represented within the borders of current-day Italy. Your historical ignorance does not impress.
@smal750
@smal750 6 ай бұрын
@@RD-jc2eu Italians are romans what are you talking about
@RD-jc2eu
@RD-jc2eu 6 ай бұрын
@@smal750 jeezus but you're dumb.
@nickduf
@nickduf 3 ай бұрын
@@RD-jc2eu Gallia transpanana, Gallia cispadana,
@christopherrobertson7723
@christopherrobertson7723 4 жыл бұрын
“To” has become “na” in the expression “going to” into “gonna” even by influential public speakers. “Too” and “two” have remained unchanged but “to” sometimes becomes “tuh” by many of our role models.
@MyrtleSnow0
@MyrtleSnow0 4 жыл бұрын
A part 2 with Portuguese and Spanish would be awesome!
@TheFlowerGirl13
@TheFlowerGirl13 4 жыл бұрын
I studied french for four years and loved it, and love everything Celtic/Irish. This video sums up everything I thought about french
@Columbator
@Columbator 4 жыл бұрын
Nice approach for explaining the origin of the language, but : - Gaulish people didn't have big moustaches, it's a stereotype. In fact they were very close to Romans ;) - Vikings didn't wear horned helmets - A better pronunciation of "françois" it the 14th century would have been [frɑ̃n'swɛ] - The demise of the langue d'oc is often considered to have been caused by the loss of its prestige due to the destruction of the templars who were loosely linked to occitan litterature at that time. - The correct pronunciation of Villers-Cotterêts is [vilɛʁkɔtʁɛ], not [vijekɔtʁɛ]
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
My design for the Gaulish was based on this horribly grainy painting from god knows where/when. So, I'm not surprised that was not historically accurate 😂
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 4 жыл бұрын
Well actually the Gauls did have big mustaches just not at the time of Julius Caesar because they had begun to adopt Roman fashion, the northern tribes still did have mustaches as described by many Roman writers as they said that they shaved every part of their body but the hair on their heads and their mustaches...
@alejandror.planas9802
@alejandror.planas9802 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, a moustache was a symbol of status in Gaul, it wasn't used by everyone, but certainly by nobility.
@patapoufsuper8118
@patapoufsuper8118 4 жыл бұрын
Les gaulois sans moustaches ? Mec c'est comme si je te dis que les moines tibétains portent des dreadlocks...
@changminscreamsalot
@changminscreamsalot 4 жыл бұрын
@@patapoufsuper8118 ça a fait ma soirée, merci
@gioq4702
@gioq4702 4 жыл бұрын
it comes from drunken Gauls trying to speak Latin.
@keyos1955
@keyos1955 4 жыл бұрын
So true
@KameroonEmperor
@KameroonEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
Then drunken Germans trying to imitate
@elbentos7803
@elbentos7803 4 жыл бұрын
The most important thing here is : drinking
@ermacro1987
@ermacro1987 4 жыл бұрын
So french language would not exist without these alcoholic men 🤔
@TCt83067695
@TCt83067695 4 жыл бұрын
@@ermacro1987 basically lol
@rolibus2606
@rolibus2606 Жыл бұрын
excellente étude de la construction et de l'évolution du Français d'aujourd'hui :)) Les textes du Moyen Age en vieux Français sont pour nous incompréhensibles aujourd'hui !! Mais l'étude du latin, qu'on pouvait faire à l'école, nous aidait beaucoup à comprendre le sens de certains mots employés maintenant: les "racines" des mots étaient très souvent latines !! Merci pour cette brillante étude :))
@guzy1971
@guzy1971 Жыл бұрын
D’un autre côté le Français médiéval était d’après ce que j’ai lu plus germanique la langue a été relatinisee à la Renaissance par les clercs qui voulaient fonder la la sur des bases plus prestigieuses Exemple : le heaume du moyen âge (Helm en allemand) est redevenu le casque
@FrançoisdeMontespan
@FrançoisdeMontespan Ай бұрын
​@@guzy1971 Justement b
@papitas6061
@papitas6061 4 жыл бұрын
The Celtic language, Breton, still exists in northern France. It is closely related to the Gaulish languages, but originates in Great Britain.
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Good point! I wonder if the two languages were similar enough to be able to understand each other to a certain degree.
@CyrilleParis
@CyrilleParis 4 жыл бұрын
Only in part of Brittany. It came from the migration of Welch people in the begining of the middle-ages. It has nothing to do with Gaulish which had disapeared at the time. Both Gaulish Langages and that kind of Welch came from the same family but, for what I have understood, were quite different.
@fablb9006
@fablb9006 4 жыл бұрын
papitas breton is not a survinving « autochtonous language » related to Gaulish, that resisted latinization, bit a language brought from outside by mogrations from the British isles, in a region that was speaking a latin language at that time... while Gaulish was a group of celtic language from central Europe. Only half of Britanny become receltized by British settlers, the eastern part of it (Rennes, Nantes stayed latin).
@jetaddicted
@jetaddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Western France, that is. In the North we spoke Flemish, and Picard.
@CyrilleParis
@CyrilleParis 4 жыл бұрын
@@jetaddicted Le Picard est une langue d'Oîl, donc une langue romane (issue du latin). Le Flamand est une langue germanique. Rien à voir avec le gaulois dont on parlais plus haut.
@stephanevilboux1706
@stephanevilboux1706 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour. Votre vidéo est vraiment très bien faite et historiquement juste. Cordialement.
@librocara78
@librocara78 Жыл бұрын
very well done, superb work, j'ai beaucoup appris!
@jonathanconnor8190
@jonathanconnor8190 4 жыл бұрын
The Frankish/German influence early on in French is why in French you have to use the pronouns like je and tu and not so much in the likes of Spanish and Italian.
@alexandermayes4957
@alexandermayes4957 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and no - as a way to simplify sure, but don't forget that Spain also had its fair share of Germanic tribes so it's not as black and white as that.
@pak3ton
@pak3ton 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermayes4957 spanish is more relates to arab language than germanic. In spanish there is a lot of words with almost same pronunciation in arab. Like Aceite zayt
@alexandermayes4957
@alexandermayes4957 4 жыл бұрын
@@pak3ton yeah exactly - I’m just saying you can’t say it’s a lack of Germanic influence it’s more that they had other influences but just felt the comment was inaccurate 😁
@pak3ton
@pak3ton 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermayes4957 well at least here in latin america we dont have that much germanic influence... maybe :v
@arnobozo9722
@arnobozo9722 4 жыл бұрын
No, it is not German influence.. In English : if you don't use I, you or we, then you can not tell who is the subject. In French : if you don't use je, tu, nous, sometimes you can not tell who is the subject. Using pronouns is more clear. In Spanish : even if you don't use io, tu, nosotros, you can always tell who is the subject. Because the conjugation of the verb gives the subject.
@Robwolf28
@Robwolf28 4 жыл бұрын
The English word eagle is from French aigle it is L' Aquila (The eagle) in Italian and Latin, but it is not pronounced like French. The Germanic word for eagle is Arnr örn, ørn, (Old Norse, Icelandic, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish) earnes (Old English).
@Fenditokesdialect
@Fenditokesdialect 4 жыл бұрын
The word earn is still used for instead of sea eagle ya know
@ScorieDivine
@ScorieDivine 4 жыл бұрын
Most English words come from French dialects, mainly Normand.
@giuvannicammora2821
@giuvannicammora2821 4 жыл бұрын
ACVILA
@guzy1971
@guzy1971 4 жыл бұрын
Aigle = Adler in german
@afrocyberdelia
@afrocyberdelia Жыл бұрын
But the intonation is like the Italian A....kwila =E....gel
@edwardsaulnier892
@edwardsaulnier892 2 жыл бұрын
You gave a lot of good detail about how Latin evolved into French. Perhaps, however, you could have pointed out the difference between Classical Latin and Vulgar Latin -- the latter being the true ancestor of the Romance languages. Maybe you could have briefly mentioned how French has spread into the new world, such as in North America, and Africa etc.
@dougkenney1348
@dougkenney1348 4 жыл бұрын
This is excellent work. Keep going! You'll get to at least 100K subscribers.
@FunsongsCoUkaction_songs
@FunsongsCoUkaction_songs 4 жыл бұрын
Excellently produced and animated. Interesting and of high educational value. Good job!
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :)
@pyrene_ict
@pyrene_ict 4 жыл бұрын
Ho thanks for mentioning "Occitan" at the first minute 👀. It's really hard in France to defend cultures with traditionals languages 😭👌🏼
@8a41jt
@8a41jt 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and Occitan is still spoken!!! (so is Catalan)
@pyrene_ict
@pyrene_ict 4 жыл бұрын
@@8a41jt I learned Occitan at school when I was younger. Catalan is very close to Occitan 👌🏼
@PawPatrolTheLionGuardFan
@PawPatrolTheLionGuardFan 4 жыл бұрын
@@pyrene_ict J’aimerai bien apprendre l’Occitan ! Dommage que le gouvernement ne reconnaisse aucune langue...
@pyrene_ict
@pyrene_ict 4 жыл бұрын
@@PawPatrolTheLionGuardFan Oui tout a fait, c'est devenu un "combat" pour essayer de faire vivre les langues minoritaires 🤷🏼‍♀️
@laurenth7187
@laurenth7187 4 жыл бұрын
Yes because some day you may want to be independent like Catalonia.
@DutchScape
@DutchScape 4 жыл бұрын
French came from next door. She is the illegitimate daughter of a romance between Frank and some gal with a lot of gaul.
@nathaliemartel64
@nathaliemartel64 4 жыл бұрын
So poetic ...
@lmnll2742
@lmnll2742 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, french is a roman language, the influence of "frank" and "gaul" is almost non-inexistant
@smal750
@smal750 11 ай бұрын
​@@lmnll2742 least complexed french :
@lmnll2742
@lmnll2742 11 ай бұрын
@@smal750 all languages
@sylvainb2366
@sylvainb2366 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the Romance languages that come from Latin but the Celtic languages that preceeded them, that's the reason why there's an Italo-Celtic group of languages. Common words like the numbers are almost identical as are many other words, but the split between both groups happened long before the use of writing since the substratum speakers of Celtic modified many Latin grammar features which were mostly simplified.
@SuperLalilalilali
@SuperLalilalilali 3 жыл бұрын
I am studying French Linguistic and this was very helpful! Thank you! :)
@Thirteenwindows
@Thirteenwindows Жыл бұрын
Cool video. Very informative
@celica9098
@celica9098 Жыл бұрын
I was always curious why French sounds so different than Portuguese, Spanish, and Italian despite they’re all part of the Latin family.
@Slo-ryde
@Slo-ryde Жыл бұрын
Because it is from the north of France where the Germanic people had the greatest influence; and that is why it is phonetically Germanic. In other words, it is Gaulish Latin spoken with a strong Germanic accent, with many foreign words, but the basic structure is similar to other Romance languages. Occitan French was more similar to Catalan!
@jeanlaureaudoynaud4776
@jeanlaureaudoynaud4776 Жыл бұрын
@@Slo-ryde Superbe réponse. En effet, le français est une langue latine germanisée. Oui l'occitan français est très proche du catalan. Mon papa qui avait pour langue maternelle le patois limousin, comprenait tout ce qu'on lui disait à Barcelone. Il en était tout étonné. Le français, sous influence germanique, a notamment perdu la dernière syllabe des mots latins conservée en italien ou espagnol comme par exemple, en latin "tabula" qui donne "tavola" en italien et "table" en français et tant d'autres coupures de cette sorte. Intéressant aussi à noter, les voyelles nasales qui n' existent pas en italien par exemple ainsi que le son u inexistant en latin, héritage du son germanique Ce sont ces nouveaux sons inexistants en latin qui sont, en partie, à l'origine de la complexité de l'orthographe française. Les moines copistes ont été incapables d'inventer de nouveaux signes pour ces nouveaux sons, et ont opté pour une accumulation de lettres. Mais il y avait aussi un but pécuniaire, car étant payés à la ligne, ils avaient intérêt à en rajouter !! Voilà pourquoi, aujourd'hui, nous nous cassons la tête face à une orthographe épouvantable. Bien cordialement à vous.
@Slo-ryde
@Slo-ryde Жыл бұрын
@@jeanlaureaudoynaud4776grand merci !
@fosterbuster2840
@fosterbuster2840 23 күн бұрын
@@Slo-ryde Lol
@davidw1518
@davidw1518 4 жыл бұрын
The Gallic / Gaelic language did not completely disappear from France as you say it did. In Bretagne (Brittany), the north-west tip of France, they (or some of them) still speak a language that comes directly from Gallic, and is not dissimilar to the languages of Wales and Cornwall (the south-western tip of England, directly across the Channel from Bretagne).
@morvil73
@morvil73 2 жыл бұрын
No, Breton is not derived from Gaulish, but from British.
@romain6275
@romain6275 Жыл бұрын
@@morvil73 Brythonic, and there were the same languages
@carymnuhgibrilsamadalnasud1222
@carymnuhgibrilsamadalnasud1222 Жыл бұрын
​@@romain6275Facts
@Slo-ryde
@Slo-ryde Жыл бұрын
@@morvil73 you are not wrong because Brittany took in many Brit refugees, escaping the Anglosaxon invasions of then Britain…… hence the name Brittany!
@donmarley69
@donmarley69 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the French Revolution and the subsequent total Francification of France! but great video!
@zied6456
@zied6456 4 жыл бұрын
Also the public school, and the radio/TV. Mais sinon bien vù!
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
The "francification" started far before the revolution (16th century)...
@HiLife4Ewa
@HiLife4Ewa 4 жыл бұрын
Really informative! Thanks so much! I’ve learned a lot from watching this.
@hauntinglykrista
@hauntinglykrista 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on monetization and the growth of your channel! So proud! :D
@thkrz5541
@thkrz5541 4 жыл бұрын
For the Ordinance stuff, we pronounce "Vee-Lair Cotrey" that's a city of Picardy, where i come from
@davidlacoste
@davidlacoste 4 жыл бұрын
Vous prononcez le "r"?
@mathias9242
@mathias9242 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidlacoste Oui
@davidlacoste
@davidlacoste 4 жыл бұрын
@@mathias9242 Merci. J'ai appris quelque-chose aujourd'hui.
@primopierre
@primopierre 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to get an insight as to how the French language evolved so differently from Latin in terms of pronunciation and spelling - the silent letters, conjugation, and the different spelling. Any chance?
@heliedecastanet1882
@heliedecastanet1882 2 жыл бұрын
I can't totally answer you, but I can give you a very clear example of a quite common phenomenon in the evolution of the French language : the contraction. Take for example the Latin name "Augustus". It gave his name to one month of the year : August. In Italian, it became Agosto. In French, two of the three "u" disappeared, as well as the "g", and the two "s". So, at the end, the word in French for August is… Août ! lol And this accent "^" is generally the mark of the disappearance of an "s" in French language. Example : Hospital = Hôpital. Cheers !
@plumebrise4801
@plumebrise4801 Жыл бұрын
@@heliedecastanet1882 It's for month of August ,the name is still Auguste in French .
@heliedecastanet1882
@heliedecastanet1882 Жыл бұрын
@@plumebrise4801 J'expliquais comment en français on est passé du prénom latin Augustus et ses déclinaisons au mot août. Je ne parlais pas du prénom Auguste 🙂 Bonne journée à vous !
@saidhammar5006
@saidhammar5006 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very nice. But why American flag for English language?
@colincbatch
@colincbatch 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done! -From one travelling linguist to another ;)
@TheRoon4660
@TheRoon4660 Жыл бұрын
I am an amateur linguist because I lived in 7 countries with three different languages and often many dialects. I would like to see you deal with Portunal the language that they use between Brazil (Portuguese) and their Spanish neighbours. I am fluent in Spanish but never studied Portuguese so this is what I ended up using on the internet to communicate with Brazilians. It was so much easier than you could think.
@minir.3182
@minir.3182 4 жыл бұрын
Super! Merci beaucoup! Here in Québec, we still speak the old french from rural France of the 17ème century. (The 1600’s) My parents borned in the 50’s still learned latin at school and heard it when they went to church as the priests would sometimes give the mass in latin. A more classic form of French was also used in certain social situations, on radio and television, etc. Its changed a lot as we all speak French Canadian now, In all situations, and Latin is no longer a part of our lifes.
@yaushingma8162
@yaushingma8162 4 жыл бұрын
So the modern French people are mixed by Gaul, Roman and Germanic people ,right?
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
I really have no idea about the actual lineage/ancestry of the actual people of France. I would say yes, but I can't say for certainty to what extent. But definitely not my area of expertise. But, in terms of the French language, it originated from Vulgar Latin and was partially influenced by Gaulish and the various languages of the Germanic tribes (and other languages to a lesser extent throughout the centuries).
@yaushingma8162
@yaushingma8162 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist thanks for respon. Your KZbin channel tell us a lot of interesting things that I don't know before. Good job 👍, continue to do your video.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 4 жыл бұрын
As a French, the ethnic composition of France is mostly Celts and minority Germanic, very few Roman influence since they never populated the Gauls per say. In France, if you go north of the Loire river, people will be 50/50 Celts and Germanic, the northern you'll go the more Germanic people look. And this corresponds to the original spread of Oïl languages which developed from the Latin and Franks mixture. The southern you go the more people will look like alpine Italians ! :)
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk94 Merci de lui avoir répondu ! :)
@yaushingma8162
@yaushingma8162 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk94 thanks for your answer🙏
@UrukEngineer
@UrukEngineer 4 жыл бұрын
Why use an American flag to represent English? There's a clue in the name.
@Line10
@Line10 4 жыл бұрын
its like when people use the brazilian flag to talking about portuguese... You have to be an american to have these perspectives
@henriquesmart9140
@henriquesmart9140 4 жыл бұрын
@@Line10 you are absolutely right, one has to be absolutely devoid of grey cells to write such rubbish, and calling himself a "linguist"
@japanpanda2179
@japanpanda2179 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there's about 4 times as many English speakers in USA than in the UK. That's probably part of the reason.
@UrukEngineer
@UrukEngineer 4 жыл бұрын
@@japanpanda2179 Hmmm, there are roughly 3 times as many Spanish speakers in Mexico than Spain, but he used a Spanish flag. I think is just that the author is from the US and has a very US-centred perspective on the world.
@jakedaniels831
@jakedaniels831 4 жыл бұрын
Because we're cooler
@fmhuonker1838
@fmhuonker1838 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for all the work.
@2geekdup
@2geekdup Жыл бұрын
Some are watching this at school, I’m watching this at home for fun 🤣 great vid bro 💯
@skipfuego6339
@skipfuego6339 3 жыл бұрын
Latin isn't dead...it just evolved into other languages that followed it's roots and became simplified...In fact, people still use Latin in medical fields, law, churches. Out of the 5 main romance languages, French has evolved the most and still kept its roots from the Latin language, but is the furthest from Latin. Romanian is the closest to Latin in terms of grammar and is the only one that has the neutered system, while the rest of the romance languages lost that. Italian is closer to Latin in terms of vocabulary.
@giuvannicammora2821
@giuvannicammora2821 3 жыл бұрын
My Dialect is more latin than italian (standard) Grammatical + terms of vocabulary. (ancestry - Rome)
@user-yu1yz6qk1g
@user-yu1yz6qk1g 4 жыл бұрын
in Villers-Cotterets, "Villers" is pronounced as in English, although the 's' is silent
@GenericUsername1388
@GenericUsername1388 4 жыл бұрын
But doesn't the r make the rrggghhh sound?
@user-yu1yz6qk1g
@user-yu1yz6qk1g 4 жыл бұрын
@@GenericUsername1388 Villers is prounced "veel air". They don't all sound like Mireille Matthieu or Edith Piaf. :-)
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yu1yz6qk1g Bon exemple rappelant cette horrible façon de chanter genre années 30 ...
@gloriagalarza4251
@gloriagalarza4251 4 жыл бұрын
The order is : Chinese, Spanish, English , where do you get your data?
@AM-yi4dd
@AM-yi4dd 4 жыл бұрын
You’re correct, but only if you’re referring to the number of native speakers in the world. In that case, Chinese is first and Spanish second 👍🏼
@elmotareal
@elmotareal 4 жыл бұрын
Arabic should be one of top 5, i wondered too about the source
@brianhealey5286
@brianhealey5286 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well presented. Thank you.
@martinderome1142
@martinderome1142 Жыл бұрын
Bravo pour le bon travail!
@nni9310
@nni9310 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that there is a hypothesized link between the Celtic and Latin language families, ie they are more closely related to each other than either is to the Germanic language family.
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. 🤔
@boink800
@boink800 4 жыл бұрын
Another good book to consult on the topic is "The Story of French" by Nadeau/Barlow.
@benshahor
@benshahor 4 жыл бұрын
The answer I was seeking for but have not got: how did the spelling become so weird? Perhaps, an idea for a new video.
@francinesicard464
@francinesicard464 4 жыл бұрын
The spelling of the language has evolved a lot over the centuries. So much so that sometimes it is even difficult to read and understand the great poet François Villon (François de Montcorbier) born in 1431. The French language has the most difficult grammar of almost all European languages, the language is not quite written the way it is spoken, when spoken a lot of final consonants are mute.
@teebes2009
@teebes2009 4 жыл бұрын
Probably similar to english. The first man to own a printing press spelled words based on his own local dialect 500 years ago. Then, once it's in print the spelling becomes immutable (kind of sets like concrete). 🤔😁
@arnobozo9722
@arnobozo9722 4 жыл бұрын
The spelling of French is not weird at all. From written to oral the reading of French is phonetic. That means if you know a little of French and you fall upon an unknown word in a text, you know how to pronounce it. You make confusion with English pronounciation of french origin words. English does not stick to French pronounciation, and it uses haphazard one. From oral to written, the spelling is trickier. If you have to write [o], you can write o, au, eau [k] : c, ch, k, qu (like in other latin languages) [s] : c, s, ss [f] : f, ph The correct spelling depends mainly on Latin etymology.
@dariusanderton3760
@dariusanderton3760 4 жыл бұрын
@@arnobozo9722 English has quite a few silent letters, but French has even more. Spellings were standardized in English in about the 1700s, and in French it was even further back, therefore more silent letters. But English did absorb words from many languages and ended up with very inconsistent pronunciation/spelling rules because of that.
@pietrocantuccini5584
@pietrocantuccini5584 3 жыл бұрын
@@teebes2009 Yes, that's so annoying. And the Yanks don't even know that they owe their ridiculous verbalisations with 'Z' to the Oxford printing press running out of s'es - due to a huge Bible order back then.
@iasnaia-poliana
@iasnaia-poliana 4 жыл бұрын
Very good job! Many thanks
@boba9599
@boba9599 4 жыл бұрын
WOW you only have 10k subs? you deserve so much more. Thanks for the help on my project btw
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Feel free to share away😂 Happy to help with your project haha
@1DMapler18
@1DMapler18 4 жыл бұрын
Really love how you mention that Latin isn't a dead language (at least in the way we think it is) Latin has been spoken regularly by scholars and the elite for the past 2,000 years
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s interesting to think that French and Spanish were considered so “impure” until recently that they were not thought of as valid for talking about academia. Crazy stuff!
@annoai1236
@annoai1236 4 жыл бұрын
Latin is a dead language i know this because I'm french but latin is mixed woth French..
@francinesicard464
@francinesicard464 4 жыл бұрын
Dead language has no negative connotation, it only means that the language isn't used anymore by the majority, but only by a handful of scholars.
@faithhopelove9567
@faithhopelove9567 4 жыл бұрын
Latin being dead probably also refers to the fact that no one has it as their mother tongue anymore. It is still spoken by some, but that is not the same.
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 4 жыл бұрын
At least 400 years? In central and eastern France the Gauls or their ancestors had lived there at least 1000 years, not counting the fact that the people that lived in western France before the Gauls arrived likely spoke a language very close to Celtic, likely closer then Latin was, and likely culturally and genetically similar making the Gauls and their language truly native to the region before the arrival of the Romans. Also as some people did point out yes the Gauls are inaccurate but not because of the mustaches, some southern tribes did shave them off do to Greek and Roman influence mainly that of the colony of Massalia (modern Marseille) which reached so far as to let Gauls at the mouth of the Rhône record purchases and prayers to their gods in the Greek alphabet.
@francinesicard464
@francinesicard464 4 жыл бұрын
Gaul was once populated only by Celtic tribes.
@clairejonas6125
@clairejonas6125 4 жыл бұрын
@@francinesicard464 exact !
@Jackiezyon
@Jackiezyon 4 жыл бұрын
French is a beautiful language to the ears.
@fenrirgg
@fenrirgg 4 жыл бұрын
Omelette... du fromage...
@seantig479
@seantig479 4 жыл бұрын
This was so informative and enjoyable. Thank you for this fascinating history!
@birdie972.
@birdie972. 4 жыл бұрын
This is so good ! Thank you
@tjrubicon5463
@tjrubicon5463 4 жыл бұрын
Considering how closely related the German and French were in ancient times, how did French turn out to be a graceful beautiful language and German sounds like you are choking on a golf ball?
@sweetLemonist
@sweetLemonist 4 жыл бұрын
French is even worse. They are just spitting. Nothing romantic there. German sounds better in my opinion
@pijn2370
@pijn2370 4 жыл бұрын
they weren't related LMAO
@elomdw5567
@elomdw5567 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetLemonist Depends where you are in France
@sweetLemonist
@sweetLemonist 4 жыл бұрын
@@elomdw5567 If there's some french that sound "milder'' than I'm all for it. Otherwise it really sounds so sharp to me
@elomdw5567
@elomdw5567 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetLemonist Southern and west Southern french accent sound more latin must by close to your taste, but the northern french sound sharp, it get worse when the education level is low. I also feel like there is a degradation of the french language, ours grandparents had a better way of speaking, may it's the same everywhere but i'm not sure
@Dibipable
@Dibipable 4 жыл бұрын
En France métropolitaine il y a aussi des dialectes locaux non latins qui sont le basque (Non indo-européen), le breton (celtique), l’alsacien germanique, le lorrain germanique, le flamand (germanique) et il y a un dialecte latin non d’oc, ni d’oil qui est le corse.
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that happens when I speak my working-class southside Chicago way and people can't understand me. Then I have to speak English. D:
@carloscarbonell4166
@carloscarbonell4166 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for leaving bibliography! It gives you credibility
@jphelk
@jphelk 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very interesting historical account. My grand-mother was speaking a patois of occitan at home, but at school near world war 1, she would have been punished if not speaking French. As a French speaker, I would also like to mention that Villers-Coteret is pronounced just as if it would be written Vilère, or like in the words "ville air" and unlike "fille".
@olivier5851
@olivier5851 4 жыл бұрын
It's also important to say that French also got a big influence of the Viking's language, which is close to the Islandic, after the creation of the Duchy of Normandy (made to fix vikings and stop their attack along the coast), many norrois words arrived in French through the Norman dialect🤓
@TheTravellingLinguist
@TheTravellingLinguist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning! I didn't know that :)
@julsh9776
@julsh9776 4 жыл бұрын
So true, I'm from Normandy and you there are clear traces of Viking influence. Neighborhood called after old Viking words such as "Sanvic".
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTravellingLinguist It's true but more for Norman dialect than standard French. In modern French the Vikings influence is mainly related to the names of places: - The names ending with -ville (from Latin villa) include for most of them a foreign word being the name or surname of a Norman (Beuzeville, Bierville, Houpeville, Sierville, Bacqueville, Tancarville, Valliquerville) - Other names ending with -tot (Yvetot, Criquetot, Houdetot, Sassetot, etc...) are related to Saxon (tot meaning hovel or enclosure) - Words ending in -bec are related to Scandinavian and Saxon "beke", meaning creek or stream (Bolbec, le Bec, Caudebec, Briquebec, Robec, etc...) - Names in -eu or -eur (Canteleu, Harfleur, Barfleur, Vittefleur, etc...) come from Icelandic, meaning "close to the water" etc ... Note that the word "acre", related to an area measuring, used in Normandy and in England (nowhere else) comes from the Vikings. It has been used in France until the advent of the metric system. Just for information
@wharpblast264
@wharpblast264 Жыл бұрын
In Britain we talk about English being heavily influenced by French. This is known as Norman French following the conquest of 1066. French is the language of the English aristocracy for centuries. This seems to be a period of rapid evolution of the French spoken in France. This seems to imply the last people to speak Norman French would be in England.
@fredyalba1057
@fredyalba1057 Жыл бұрын
@@patolt1628 pat olt-- thanks. I knew about the Norman invasion. Guy seems dumb. Whence does he think Conquering Bill came? I will devour your info now. Stuff I love. I have not studied Scandy tongue, but German, French, no Gaelic. Thnx. Guy not that dumb really.
@Brubarov
@Brubarov 4 жыл бұрын
I think French became so huge mainly because it was a melting pot of mediterranean/latin, gaelic and germanic languages and cultures.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien Жыл бұрын
You can add greek
@anonyme2333
@anonyme2333 Жыл бұрын
@@leneanderthalien And nordic (Viking Influence in Normandy).
@IRACEMABABU
@IRACEMABABU Жыл бұрын
And France was the bigger country of Europe at that time,in space, economy and population. During many centuries French was the mandatory diplomatic language.
@leroyeuvrard5243
@leroyeuvrard5243 4 жыл бұрын
Why do they only pronounce about half the letters in the north while in the south all the letters are pronounced?
@thatguyman6044
@thatguyman6044 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh nice observation. The obvious variable here is temperature but why?
@huguesparadis414
@huguesparadis414 4 жыл бұрын
Well even around 1700 most of the letters were pronunced. But most were drop to make speech faster. But the académie de la langue française which dictates what is official French does not like to change stuff... So here we are today and arguing every 5 years if we should do an orthographic reform.
@user-yu1yz6qk1g
@user-yu1yz6qk1g 4 жыл бұрын
Because the Northerners have to work, while the Southerners have time to play pétanque, drink pastis and generally behave like the fainéants they are :-)
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 4 жыл бұрын
Because, boy, this is the deeeep deeeeep SOuth here.
@user-yu1yz6qk1g
@user-yu1yz6qk1g 4 жыл бұрын
@@goofygrandlouis6296 Shame on y'all
@Aritul
@Aritul 4 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy videos like these. Thank you for the video.
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