Why Carnivore ISN'T the Best Diet for Everyone | Nick Norwitz

[@JesseChappus]

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[@aliciastanley5582]

For people who don’t have problems with dairy, nuts or plants a diverse diet with a diverse micro biome is a good thing. Why do people with specific diets act just like people of different religions- each thinks theirs is the best and would like to wipe out the others? The truth is people differ greatly in the need for different diets. Why is it so hard for people to accept that? It’s at root a lot of childish bull💩that reveals peoples’ insecurities about themselves.

[@Miraak1868]

I will not watch a video about a Quack !

[@ws7001]

⁠@@aliciastanley5582Doctors favoring the carnivore diet state studies show a more diverse biome while on a carnivore diet. For me, I only resolved my 50 year H2S gut generation issues by going full carnivore. More fiber was disastrous for me. Now, zero H2S or any gut issues.

[@chrisbr1969]

@@aliciastanley5582 there is no essential carbohydrate. None. All carbs turn to sugar in the human body. All cause inflammation, especially nuts. There is absolutely no benefit to consuming any of that trash. These things didn’t even exist 500 years ago.

[@photomaker4502]

I have been on the carnivore diet for mental health reasons. After one year I started to incorporate some fruits back into my diet. Within a week my anxiety and irritability returned. When I also reintroduced some veggies back as well, I was having constipation. I just stay carnivore until my body tells me otherwise.

[@manojlogulic4234]

Hey bud, consider supplementing with higher dose of benfotiamin B1 vitamin, I notice I have no reaction to sugar when add it back since I incorporate B1 supplementation. I use to have same effect as you but today I eat 5 oranges to test it and nothing my head was calm and feel fine. I keep investigating why is this happening and it seem that B1 vit is very important in first step of Kreb cycle when burning carbs and we are all deficient in B1, carnivore too.

[@opplusllc]

Here's what I don't understand, why would you go back to something you know doesn't work? Just because some people can assimilate plants a little bit, it doesn't mean it will make them optimal , and throughout history most Foods had to be fermented including me so if you are going to try vegetables at all they better at least be fermented

[@sethtphillips]

@@opplusllc I never needed to ferment veggies in my fairly plant based diet. And actually, doing carnivore made me more insulin resistant. So I am back to what I know works for me. Humans are nuanced omnivores, not carnivores.

[@6140LIBRA]

@@opplusllc Exactly

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

higher fat carnivore diet has totally reversed my life long depression and anxiety. These so called experts with their bs "studies" are so disconnected from nature.

[@Miraak1868]

I became carnivore in 2023 and self cured T2D, bloody acid reflux disease, hemmoroids, constipation, diarrhea, arthritis. I am carnivore for life. I will be 81 in 3 days.

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Carnivore + some fruits for the past 5 years. I am 60. Best decision of my life.

[@cynthiashores57]

It is of great benefit for T2D! Getting glucose levels DOWN is important for that reason.

[@Miraak1868]

@@cynthiashores57 I agree with you 100+% !

[@nellab5314]

Well done, I’m 10 yrs your junior and also reversed diabetes type 2 through careful eating, eliminating sugar ,. I concentrated on foods high in protein, including some meat as not fond of it. . Same result as yours.

[@Miraak1868]

@@nellab5314 Good job !

[@daviddad1234]

Carnivore is better than the standard human diet.

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

What is the standard human diet ??? In India? In Nigeria? In Brazil?

[@daviddad1234]

@ I meant to say the Standard American Diet. They should change the name as the Standard American Diet has infiltrated other countries. You can now buy fast foods like KFC, Pizza Hut, McDonalds, etc. in many countries now.

[@daviddad1234]

@ I meant to say the Standard American Diet. They should change the name as the Standard American Diet has infiltrated other countries. Fast Foods like KFC, Pizza Hut, McDonalds, etc can be seen all over the globe.

[@Miraak1868]

Don't you mean the SAD ?

[@daviddad1234]

@ yes. Thanks.

[@jolantagoetter6224]

I’m 62 yo female carnivore for 9 months! And have no plans to go back because I feel like never before! Probably… probably… bla bla bla…. It is PHD and no one is going to prove me wrong. - IBS- gone! - arthritis pain- gone - depression- gone - blood pressure issues- gone - my resting heart rate is between 54-61! - CRP undetectable - all blood tests are perfect! Accept LDL, but who gives a dam about that?!? TG/HDL = 1.00! - my hair grew back like it was in my 20s - skin became clear and smooth - I don’t burn in the sun, go nice and bronze - my distant vision went from -2.00 to -1.75 (so far) - smell, hearing and peripheral vision came back miraculously 😮 - my gums healed, my hygienist can’t believe it! - energy through the roof! 9 work out classes per week including Pilates, yoga, P90X and Group Fit plus early morning walks for 3.5 miles. - my muscles grow like I’d be on steroids 😂😂 WHAT ELSE you need to know?! Why in hell I’d go back eating plants and other crap??? 🙄 I wish I would of know all I do now when I played professional sports! I would of been 10 times better then I was!!!

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Yes, follow the nature. We eat, meat and some seasonal fruits in nature. Carnivore + some fruits for the past 5 years here. Most of these experts are disconnected from nature. Nick should go to nature instead of being lost in his BS "probably" ideas.

[@cammieklund]

Do to still include dairy?

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

@@cammieklund I eat some fruits and a bit of dairy on carnivore.

[@jolantagoetter6224]

@ ones in a while I want some good Italian Parmesan and I have it. But that’s about it. My only dairy product on every day basis is grass fed butter. Lots of it 😜

[@enough425]

@@jolantagoetter6224do you get constipated? I’m nervous about adding in protein bc it constipates me

[@JanRiffler]

At 58 years old I found my match in Carnivore.

[@JYAN2852]

Gut microbiome is constantly changing based on what we eat. Anyone who talks about microbiome with some level of authority does not know what they are talking about. People who had their entire colon removed are thriving on carnivore.

[@Conservative_carnivore]

Yup, I'm never constipated, bloated, gasy, or have any indigestion, heartburn, etc. It's very clean

[@hale-bq3em]

you right we dont need microbiome

[@Billy97ify]

Nobody really knows anything about it. They are BSing. The gut will adapt to whatever is eaten. Pretty sure glucose and fructose feed every bacteria and fungus. That is where things can go bad.

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Our small intestine is almost sterile any ways. This is why over growth of bacteria is not good for us. These so called experts are bunch of narcs with their degrees from big pharma.

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

@@hale-bq3em Our small intestine is almost sterile any ways. This is what people end up with SIBO. We don't bacteria there. To do what? We are not cows. Feeding bacteria to make farts? No thank you.

[@thomashughes4859]

I like Carnivore and OMAD. 😊

[@barrymiller99]

What about this suggestion? Salt beef to taste. Eat until satiated. Don’t eat again until hungry. Stay hydrated. After a month or so, add whole foods,one at a time, and find out what causes negative issues. If there are negative issues, decide how severe and if the pleasure outweighs the downside. Try to keep it simple. Avoid processed foods, especially seed oils. And Oreo cookies, haha.

[@CL-im9lk]

👍

[@verborgenewahrheit1594]

Sound advice

[@dant3232]

This guy is going to get shredded by bart kay and chaffee and Goeke

[@suehussain1230]

😂😂😂

[@Pi2.718]

Wait for it 😮😂

[@thereligionofrationality8257]

Burp Kay? The same dude who tried to critique Ben Bikman? Be serious, man.

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

​@@thereligionofrationality8257 💯👍

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Who cares? Bart doesn't pay his salary, grade his tests, make his bed, make his dinner and will never be his wife or boss.

[@thomassaddul6070]

It is the BEST diet for humans!

[@JeffC26131]

💯💪🏻🥩

[@stingrae789]

A couple years ago on twitter there was a guy who tested his gut biome and it actually was more diverse post carnivore. With all the mess of academia it's hard to hold most studies to what they say. Wouldn't it be funny if a simplistic diet yielded a more diverse microbiome? Longevity is an oversold prospect to people, I want to live in such a way where I'm capable of movement until I die, whether that be at 40, 70 or 90. I want the quality of life not the quantity of life.

[@bonnitabee903]

No one will outlive their date of passing - we can only enhance quality of life 🙏🦋and that’s a big thing 😊to have a healthy body that can bounce around hapoily

[@AimForGoal]

Try all and see what works best for you. I did and found carnivore amazing. Never going back. Curious, there is no discussion about sugar or carb addiction ?

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

That's a different topic. There was no conversation about the astronaut's diet and what we will have to eat on Mars but that is a separate conversation. Lots of nuances to every conversation.

[@chrisbr1969]

Carnivore, the proper human diet, is for everyone.

[@sebk174]

Yes, the natural Carnivore diet from the hunters and gatherers which includes Carbohydrates from freshly hunted animals. Unfortunately, today's meat doesn't contain any carbohydrates.

[@StupidInternetPeople1]

You sound like a vegan 😂

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

​@@sebk174it does, eat fresh liver and organ meats. Seafood has carbs. Go hunting and get the meat fresh, will still have blood in the meat. Also the connective tissue in meat has carbs (yes, yes very low amount but more than zero). Eggs have carbs. Extra large free range eggs have as much as .7 grams per egg, duck eggs slightly more. Hunter gatherers ate eggs, drank blood and milk, all having crabs. The Inuit had seafood, sea water with lots of plant material in the water (algae, plankton,...) and sea plants. Early humans ate roots and of course fish, reptiles, fowl,.... Fresh Sardines are a great source of carbs. I get a 150 grams of carbs a day from what many label as a "Zero" carb diet / carnivore diet.

[@mechanicswife6821]

@@sebk174 Modern meat does contain a very small amount of carbs. Beef liver has slightly more than beef muscle meat does. We don't need the carbs from plants, nor do we need the fiber or the sugar from carbohydrates found in plants.

[@mattchambers4561]

@@sebk174actually, no. Absolutely not. There are many conditions, as well as genetic factors that would completely contraindicate a zero carb diet. Simple google search.

[@umpatas5468]

Carnivore is the optimal human diet. That's my experience. I have reversed 10 chronic conditions on carnivore. Now when it comes to the meat I'm omniverous. All animals are on the menu. I might have some fruit, a cooked mushroom on occasion, but rarely and minimal.

[@rebeccabriggs2982]

I did carnivore (after 5 years of only plants)... added various food backs and had reactions. Waited awhile, more healing... now eating a reasonable variety with no reactions. Its taken almost two years. Feel better than I did on carnivore. Really happy with where I'm at! Carnivore has been useful for healing and as an elimination diet.

[@enough425]

What were some of the things you disliked about carnivore (I’m not carnivore but curious about eating styles to feel my best )

[@rebeccabriggs2982]

@enough425 I just can't seem to digest beef terribly well... if it's mince or sausages not so bad. Beef slows my digestion way way down. Lamb I like but too much and I go off it. I struggle to do high fat. When 80% meat I had hormone issues... absolutely no libido, heavy flooding periods with cramps, irritable, increased fight or flight.... so jumpy, twitching, insomnia etc. Also had really heavy legs all the time, exercise, walking up hill was a struggle. Now I eat alot more plants all that has resolved. I only eat a limited variety... ones that don't cause gas or bloating and I eat about 50% meat daily. The meat is salmon (mostly tinned as it's cheap), sardines, beef sausages, mince, schnitzel, steak, chicken, lamb, venison. Some eggs here and there. Very little dairy. The veges and fruits are... rocket or arugula, carrots, pumpkin, sweet potato, potato, cucumber, tomatoes, berries, apples, pears, banana, stone fruits. A slice of toast daily. I do not eat onions, garlic, cruciferous veges, avocado, spinach etc So nothing really high in oxalates or gas causing.

[@verborgenewahrheit1594]

Surprised you actually added toast back into your diet. Highly processed food

[@NinjaRem09]

Maggie White, 82 years old Canadian rancher who's been carnivore for 65 years disagree with you Nick

[@Miraak1868]

Nick needs to stay in school.

[@orchidmuse]

exactly what do you disagree with? A person with a healthy micribiome can eat anything what we call whole foods and grains. There are vegans, vegetarians, people on a balanced diet who thrive on their diet and live up to 100 years. So what if we can't eat sauerkraut, bread, vegetables, grains or fruits? It is our problem. As it's a problem of vegans that they can't digest animal protein or are just intolerant to the smell of meat or fish. I don't mean religious veganism, of course. Or religious carnivorism, if you will. I understand Nick just wanted to warn a healthy person to not start a diet just out of curiosity or in order to lose weight, because some microbiomes just need more than a fatty steak. No one knows what is good for you, just you yourself.

[@MrNiche95]

Well said 😎

[@frankvinti925]

For the love of god, if someone has cured their arthritic pain, high blood pressure, diabetes, depression and anxiety on the carnivore diet it would be completely ridiculous to stop for some microbiome and longevity theories, risking getting sick again, unless perhaps maybe reintroducing some type of foods very slowly and monitoring every month, but I doubt that's a good idea.

[@tallcedars2310]

In the 1930's Weston Price could not find one tribe that ate strictly plants, they all ate meat and many drank milk with a few plants to survive. Since then veganism has risen and as we see, it is not the optimal diet. This proves plants are toxic to the science world. What we eat today is because of taste, not to create healthy future generations. Most of us want to be healthy and many see the benefits of meat and a little carbs for health and vitality. This can only mean that the carnivore diet is what keeps us optimal really. We do not have a true definition of health nor carnivore yet, but we are definitely seeing where the needle is pointing.

[@mlg1279]

Veganism, vegetarian, carnivore diets suit different kinds of people. We are not all the same

[@tallcedars2310]

@@mlg1279 We were all the same at one point more or less, before SAD and veganism. Althought today our bodies have been upset by chemicals and to many plants that I agree, we are not all the same now.

[@mlg1279]

@@tallcedars2310 If u mean millions of years ago, I agree. However, with time, we have started to eat different kinds of foods depending on what was available in the region.

[@tallcedars2310]

@@mlg1279 Even up to the last few hundred years there were tribes surviving on local animals, some plants & bugs. Those who ate ancestral foods had good form, while those who ate "white man" food of flour, sugar, canned goods suffered greatly, many committing suicide. Weston Prices book tells of his journey to study the teeth and dental arches of them. His book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is a very interesting read!

[@gwb8445]

Lots of speculations. No one really knows the long term effects of strict carnivore diet. For me a carnivore diet has greatly improved my health and resulted in almost 200 lbs weight loss. I shall continue eating as I do.

[@MaddenMagician]

Bro we know the long-term ramifications you understand this is like a 70-year-old diet and how humans used to eat forever😅 long-term results are you can be 80 or 90 years old and look like you're 50 my dad's 75 he's been on it for a long time since probably he was 30 35 zero health issues which is the same thing every person who ever does it and they also work out they lift weights he carries 80 lb bags of cement it doesn't matter every single person in existence who's ever done it has the same results

[@mlg1279]

​@@MaddenMagician Humans ate all kinds of foods - that's why we are called omnivores.

[@yodaddamilkman8422]

@@mlg1279all the vegetables and fruits we eat today were not consumed before on the human diet. They didn’t exist. Especially all year round.

[@mlg1279]

@@yodaddamilkman8422 Yes, I agree. We are supposed to eat as per the season. However, we have always consumed all kinds of foods - whatever was available.

[@zamfirtoth6441]

If he believes we evolved as omnivores, how about a simple list of what these pre agriculture plant foods were that we got any substantial amount of our nutrition from. Specific names please.

[@Conservative_carnivore]

Most plants we have in grocery stores don't really exist in nature. Where do you ever see carrots, kale, spinach, onions, etc growing on their own?

[@silasakron4692]

This is something not enough people are talking about. The plants we supposedly ate no longer exist as they did then (and neither do the animals we hunted!). Even if for some unfathomable reason carnivore is found to be "unnatural" and simply a biohack, so what? It has left me far healthier than any other way of eating I've ever tried. Signed, a ruminant based carnivore of five years.

[@orchidmuse]

We can't make a list. We can only rely on findings. And they say that oats were eaten already about 2500 years ago. That our pre-historic ancestors about 10.000.000 years ago are supposed to had eaten insects, and a few millions years later also leaves, grass, roots, mushrooms and nuts. And it's not like they found thousands of proof for this theory, they just found a few skeletons and skulls, a few stones with some signs on them that they had been used to crack nuts, etc. It is supposed that the pre-human ate anything he could find to survive. So before the Ice Age, when they lived in warm climates they ate fruit and meat, and those who lived at the ocean also fish and sea food, and during the Ice Age it was mostly meat, but they ate plants as soon as they could get it, in the warmer seasons. I don't understand this never ending debate on which came first, the egg or the the hen, the plant-based diet or carnivore. I don't feel good eating grains and vegetables, so I eliminate them and go on a ketogenic diet. If I could not digest meat or fish well, I'd go on a plant-based diet. Or on a balanced diet, whatever. Only I know what I can tolerate or not. I just want to be given a choice and education to find out what suits me best.

[@mlg1279]

The number 1 plant food that humans have been eating for thousands of years is Millets.

[@silasakron4692]

@@mlg1279 Sure, but we're talking before this.

[@sabine8419]

It definitely is for people living in the North and for people of European descent. There are people who have differentvmitochondria, live in the tropics, and are naked outside year round. These people can eat more carbs.

[@dawnnwilliams2946]

I like Nick’s content and the way he explains things. At the same time I think he; like a lot of academics are too hung up on “data”. I’m not against data but I am not a fan of it being on top of the hierarchy of what we know and what we should do. I think it is important for health to be resilient. And I believe I have a symbiotic relationship with the bacteria that lives in my gut. I don’t believe I should go out of my way to try to feed that bacteria. I think this relationship can carry on without my input or interference. I think what’s important is that I eat real food and not Franken food and that I trust my body and my symbiotic friends to work it out. I’m 99.5 % carnivore for the past year and have challenged my self to go another year. After that I’ll see. The .5% is coffee and macadamia nuts. Also we have to remember there are no essential carbohydrates and that the two essential macronutrients contain no fiber….

[@l.sophia2803]

All great points, thanks.. agree about the microbiome focus. I think the trouble we run in to with 'data' is picking too small a range of it. Cordain wrote book after paper after book on what they have found, so far, in the fossil record that involves our evolution. IF there is no higher understanding of the entire terrain, including environmental changes in various times on planet earth, not to mention lifestyle.. well, its only going to be limited in how useful the best data could be, as that data needs informed and wise context.

[@juiceboxboy8143]

It is always an education when Nick thinks through issues. Great clip!

[@hoangakahowie]

Im totally skeptical of eating the most natural of foods like meat and eggs long term🤦‍♂️ but hey man we should include fiber because we don't know shit about fiber. Sure your IBS got healed by doing the Carnivore diet but I just don't think you should continue doing it cause there's no long term case studies 🤦‍♂️ wtf is he talking about. Yah you should just go back to what you were doing after your IBS is gone wtf?? The reason there is no long term case studies because there is no money to be made from all of us healing. Carnivore is for everyone and if you can't do it then it's a you problem. He can go eat some nutz with his Brussel sprouts smh. 😂

[@JeffC26131]

💯😅

[@Miraak1868]

What I know about is humans cannot digest fiber. We do not produce cellulase. Eating fiber will cause any or all of the following: acid reflux disease, diverticulitis, Chrohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, IBD, IBS.

[@marymadoyris7800]

Couldn’t have said it better eat your Brussel sprouts and leave us all alone

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

This Nick dude is just a narc brainwashed by big Pharma, completely disconnected from nature. There is a long term case study. It is called nature. We are carnivores. He thinks his PHD bs is the world of GOD.

[@SuperDamny]

"I think", "I think", "I think". Speculation based on dude's feelings. He thinks, that's it

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Probably, probably....blah blah, This dude is a joke.

[@getter_done]

We are all individual with individual microbiomes, different health issues and different foods our families ate. Whatever people choose to eat, I wish everyone the best and much success. Got some great points Nick Norwitz. I saw the full episode, it was was a good podcast. Thank you Jesse. 👍

[@orchidmuse]

I am with you on this matter, Nick. I know hundreds of people thriving on plant-based diets, mostly over 60, healthy, not eating much sugar, just whole foods, grains, some snacks, but mostly cooking their food themselves. That proves that carnivore is not necessarily needed for anyone. Like yourself I can't digest vegetables and fruits, grains, etc. And I had SIBO which returns if I eat fiber. So I am on Ketovore with a bit of cucumber and zucchini, because I like them. I would never ever suggest a healthy happy person to go on carnivore. Only you yourself can know what is best for you. Crucial is that we are good educated and know our dietary options.

[@RandomMadnessChannel]

Personally I don't think that some salad\ferments is the worst thing ever for most people, but Nick's reasonings here haven't been terribly convincing

[@lightsfury_nord]

Carnivore is the optimal base human diet for every human being. The mere fact that it puts both physical illnesses into remission and psychological illness gets overcome like depression and anxiety with more. This is a Clear sign that this is the only way people should eat at a base line and then individually add a couple of things in here and there like coffee, dairy , some berries and nuts perhaps - As long as they tolerate it and within reason and season. Saying people should eat grains which is basically just sugar and fibre and chowing down on oxalate, pesticide and glyphosate ridden vegetables is just a clown statement.

[@stephen8484]

Uhm... I feel something bad in this video. 💰💰💰💰

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

nick is an agent for big pharma or just brainwashed goof.

[@BetterThanMamma]

Goat and sheep dairy are naturally A2

[@SHININGVISION1]

Many many Vegetables, Wheat contain lectins they are also referred to as Nutrition Blockers and can WRECK the Digestive tract .

[@Nono28389]

Actully fiber failed me. I used to suffer from bad constipation all my life and I tried so many things which contains high fiber, but nothing worked. I thought it will never be fixed until I tried carnivore diet.

[@RC-tm8jo]

I fell for the "we need more dietary fiber" b.s. as well. I went from eating about 25g per day and gradually increased to 60g. The more I increased dietary fiber, the worse I felt. I now get well under 10g per day on ketovore for over a year now and I've never felt better.

[@Miraak1868]

Nick is full of beans without a doubt.

[@aleksandrazimpel8097]

😂

[@justsayin-0o]

When Nick mentioned the Stanford study, a red light went on in my head. If this study is meant (by Hannah C. Wastyk et al.): “Gut-microbiota-targeted diets modulate human immune status”, published in CELL, Volume 184, Issue 16p4137-4153.e14 August 05, 2021, Christopher D. Gardner is a Senior co-author here. Gardner is a vegan advocate and behind the Plant-Based Diet Initiative (PBDI), to make a long story short... And one statement (not in the study itself, but in a summary article in the Stanford Medicine News Center (July 12, 2021 - By Janelle Weaver) indicates, in my view, what bias could be at play here: “A wide body of evidence has demonstrated that diet shapes the gut microbiome, which can affect the immune system and overall health. According to Gardner, low microbiome diversity has been linked to obesity and diabetes.” One of the findings of this (rather small study) was: “Despite sustained high levels of diverse plant-derived dietary fiber in these participants over 6 weeks, we did not observe a cohort-wide microbiota diversity increase in the high-fiber-diet arm.” In contrast, the statement on fermented food (which includes dairy,i.e. non plant-based Food) reads: “Fermented foods may be valuable in countering the decreased microbiome diversity and increased inflammation pervasive in industrialized society.” The study [7-week randomized, prospective study (n = 18/arm)] compared fiber with fermented food in two groups. Carnivorous diets were not studied. The authors make a whole series of other statements; it seems to me that the evaluation of some aspects may depend on being able to make clear statements about the actual value of which diversity in the microbiome of each individual or phenotype. In the meantime, it seems to have been proven, at least on the basis of countless "n=1" anecdotal experiences, that a “carnivorous microbiome” can serve its host very well. That this should not apply over long periods of time is a bold thesis, isn't it?

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

This dude is brainwashed by big pharma . F Nick. He does know nature.

[@zamfirtoth6441]

His comments about microbiome seem way out of his funny experiment lane.

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

nick is just a narc brainwashed by big pharma.

[@Rocketscientist66]

Disappointed with this discussion. Omg, how many people have to be healed, in order to convince these critics. Absolute 100% sure is nobody - no matter what they eat.

[@Rocketscientist66]

Especially after decades of bad diet, drugs aka medicine, vaccines, antibiotics, alcohol, stress, smoking, etc. If you have the guts to try Keto, Ketovore or Carnivore - congrats! Sustainability is no question, we have tons of people that have been doing these diets over 2 decades. Let’s see how long they live. My guess 120 if they also live a healthy life.

[@lme9743]

Medical professionals will not or cannot advocate this or any diet as it has not be studied. Before anything new is recommended it is studied for years going through various phases until it has been proven to be effective with minimal side effects. Having said that kudos to anyone who is willing to seek better health. Don't wait for medical professionals to help you as they are helpless bar the few who have pursued further review on their own and are openly advocating both keto and carnivore diets.

[@sharkair2839]

you can always add things back in once you get more metabolically healthy.

[@sidneybuckaloo]

So he just argued for 5 minutes about microbiome issues on a carnivore diet and then admitted that they don’t know what a healthy microbiome looks like. Huh… 🤔

[@colinvankeith4814]

We don’t know what a healthy microbiome is other than it is what results from healthy eating and lifestyle. Using logic, therefore, a person following carnivore eating pattern long term (say at least a decade) who has optimal metabolic health and is free of all chronic disease and conditions can logically be considered to have a proper microbiome that is compatible with the person’s diet and lifestyle. The counter argument is that studies do not exist to verify this hypothesis and my answer to this is that studies also do not invalidate this hypothesis, however about 2 million years of human evolution during which time humans evolved to become the planets foremost apex predator species eating large fatty ruminant animals gives me confidence in believing fatty meat constitutes our optimal diet. Regarding the fiber debate: If your diet is plant based then one requires to develop a microbiome that is compatible with the various fibers present in the plants. Animal foods having zero or very minimal fiber do not require these fiber loving microorganisms and some of these fiber loving microorganisms could actually be detrimental. It’s almost as if the carnivore human is a different species of animal from the omnivore/plant based human. Personally my body has experienced being omnivorous, plant based, and carnivore and unless forced to eat plants to prevent starvation I will live out my life as carnivore. I’m not proselytizing, simply sharing my experience and observations.

[@gustav4539]

Why is it inherently good to have a diverse microbiome?

[@foreverfornevervegan]

I have always had this thought in the back of my mind that there must be something to fermented foods, but I would like to know why people keep making it seem like it's the fiber part and not the bacteria. If I can just drink the juice and avoid the plant fibers, and I not going to be able to get the benefits? 🤔🤔🤔

[@Harve955]

We evolved as omnivores? The literature doesn't support it? I think Nick's focus is where he wants it to be rather than properly delving into the research around this question. We evolved to be able to process carbs as a seasonal survival mechanismnotasadailydiet

[@karolinakowalik9720]

The Bible supports it

[@Ketovore-Kayla]

Great conversation! Thank you

[@uberneanderthal]

we are not designed to eat plants. end of. we are not hind-gut fermenters, we have no rumen, and our cecum is atrophied from millions of years of disuse and is now essentially vestigial. we are poor converters of plant nutrients, and we have poor defenses against their toxins. we had to cultivate plants for thousands of years just to engineer them to be semi-edible and abundant. and while it was probably necessary to do this after the Younger Dryad to survive and allow our populations to stabilize and expand, today it's just a mistake that is ruinous to both our health and the environment.

[@orchidmuse]

We were designed to eat anything to survive, otherwise we wouldn't. End of.

[@uberneanderthal]

@@orchidmuse 'survive' maybe. thrive and be healthy? no. like every other animal we're specially adapted for a niche, and the closer our diet is to that niche, the healthier and happier we'll be.

[@PaulRalph-m1x]

The human dental structure suggests otherwise. Salivary glands produce ptyalin to accelerate hydrolysing carbohydrates, a well-established evolutionary mechanism. You may also think about reading some anthropology 101 specifically on hominid and early human diets.

[@uberneanderthal]

@@PaulRalph-m1x carnivores have a wide variety of teeth. some, like the hagfish, don't even have teeth at all. there is no required dental structure to be carnivore, biggest vegan myth out there. yes, we retained our ability to break down starches and other sugars as well as our 'sweet tooth' because carbs were very rare and seasonal. in that environment it may have been beneficial to seek out carbs to fatten us up for winter and other famine conditions. in the current artificial environment where carbs are unnaturally abundant and available all year round, it's entirely a detriment. as evidenced by the obesity, diabetes and heart disease epidemics. nitrogen isotope testing confirms that early humans (300kya) were carnivore. hypercarnivore, actually. and why wouldn't they be? you don't claw to the top of the food chain just to eat leaves and roots.

[@casualclark1069]

I’ve been on the carnivore diet for about three months and I’ve had good success. However, I discovered that my appetite was so satiated that I wasn’t getting enough protein and I was losing lean muscle mass. Had to make adjustments to the macros to make sure I hit my protein targets while making up the difference with fat. Point is, if I wasn’t paying attention to my lean muscle mass, I could’ve potentially hurt myself over time. But most of the videos and information I found on carnivore say nothing about lean muscle mass, or checking your bio markers, or tracking your intake to make sure you’re hitting your protein and fat macros. It’s just a simple diet whose name tells you what to eat and gives you advice like “eat until you’re full” which keeps it simple, but for me, I needed more information to make adjustments for my specific needs. Most people probably won’t do that on this diet, and I think that’s a mistake. Also, the confirmation bias that creates such a religious fervor on the carnivore diet is a big concern for me. Because it’s a carnivore diet, all vegetables are toxic and evil, the decades of research on fiber were all lies, and it’s OK to have high cholesterol and LDL. There is some truth here, but I will always keep an open mind about the diet and check out alternative points of view because at the end of the day, no one is ever 100% right about anything.

[@8yearsago153]

I worry more about foods being organic and trying to get glyphosate, pesticides, and other chemicals out of my diet. That seems to have been more helpful than eating more meat or plants. There's no sense in dying on a hill defending any dietary pattern. Everyone needs to figure out what works for their own body.

[@orionxtc1119]

Cute Pandas picture... one of my fave animals🐼🐼🐼

[@MrNiche95]

If we we're omnivores then why was there only roots and rubers available that we're not nice to eat and digest ???

[@clinhart]

Antibiotics as a baby are good point. It probably applies to me, too, because I had scarlet fever when I was about 1 1/2 years old and was hospitalized. So I probably got quite some antibiotics for it there. Later in life I often had digestive issues. But my digestion is pretty graceful on the carnivore diet.

[@verborgenewahrheit1594]

„Carnivore diet is understudied…“ Carnivore diet is the diet of our species for hundreds of thousands of years

[@noahniang5573]

I profoundly believe that biochemical individuality is at stake. That is why what works for me doesn't necessarily work for someone else.

[@arosalesmusic]

He says people get evangelical about the Carnivore diet, but just before that he said that we evolved as omnivores and doesn´t give any proof of it. We definitely evolved as hyper carnivores. Study of the long bones of human remains with staple isotopes of the bone cartilage indisputably demonstrate what humans have eaten and the immediate ancestors of homo sapiens sapiens, about 4.5 million years ago.

[@orchidmuse]

And what did prehistoric humans eat 10.000.000 years ago? Insects. And 7.000.000 years ago? Leaves, grass, roots. And 5.000.000? Fruits and meat, vegetables, nuts. Millions of years of evolution before the Ice Age and meat-based. We were created to eat anything to survive.

[@mlg1279]

After fire and cooking was discovered, humans ate all kinds of foods.

[@nagrabagra4924]

I can't eat plants without inflammation. Good luck to those who can eat plants. But I'm doing the best now on the Carnivore diet than I've done in the last 20 years under multiple doctor's care with all their pills.

[@mp7925]

We have evolved as HYPER CARNIVORES. 5 years carnivore and staying for the rest of my life.Will continue to listen to dr. Baker, dr. Chaffee, dr. Berry. Nothing heard here have changed my opinion.

[@DocSiders]

Carnivores DO PRODUCE a highly diverse Microbiome... All Aboriginal (mostly) Carnivore Diets have extremely diverse Microbiomes. Microbes LOVE meat to eat.

[@cherylreed4377]

I have a liver disease - PSC- so I am doing very low carb not strict carnivore - I also have HBP controlled by meds , currently can only take it every other day since my bp has been going very low - my hdl 74 and triglycerides 76 but my ldl went higher than Dr liked and screamed at me to take statin - she said Ketovore is clearly not working 😮

[@seradable]

he is such a gem. thank you

[@Roberto-cg2gr]

Hope experiences of Carnivore diet based on reported bio markers will be published in medical journal

[@brookstorm9789]

Many people will never fat adapt due to problems with fat metabolism in which case carbs are necessary for life. 30 million Americans are on beta blockers which also may interfere with fat metabolism at a certain stage. Older people may lack the enzymes adequate to change solid fat into fatty acids andlack chemicals at the mitochondrial exchange. Reports in South Korea that persons who received 2 you know what's, may have pericardial change in which fatty acids are not processed and extreme glucose uptake is demonstrated on pet scans. So in this case the heart must have glucose to function. I was one who couldn't fat adapt and my health really deteriorated. Sugar brought me back. I eat carnivore with modest fruit at intervals to keep my blood sugar adequate. I am finally losing weight because all processes need fuel of some type, even weight loss. Smaller amounts of nutrient dense food help. I think one of the benefits people experience on carnivore, beside the elimination of inflammatory foods, is just improved overall nutrition from the best protein. Mixed diets my not have enough good meat protein. Had the carnivore diet worked for me I might have stuck with it. it truly is the answer to many insoluble health issues, a miracle in many cases.

[@audreysuter4315]

Why does no other diet heal this way? Without meds.

[@foreverfornevervegan]

Hey, I know that stopping smoking, moving away from polluted cities and breathing clean mountain air has helped you reclaim your health, but humans have become accustomed to deleterious behavior like living in polluted areas, breathing in all kinds of soot and exhaust and inhaling burning plants into our lungs. Who knows, maybe having lungs that are accustomed to a variety of toxic fumes is actually beneficial, because of adaptability. And you know, lots of people have lived a long life under these modern and clearly superior conditions, so I'm a little skeptical about (and "fascinated" by) this whole "just breathe oxygen" thing. 😓 Also, some people feel really sick when they smoke, but there are also those who've smoked enough that they're used to it, and those people don't really feel sick at all when they smoke, and we all know that smoking has been shown in studies to help prevent or resolve health issues... You know those problems you likely only have because you smoke in the first place that typically get resolved when you stop smoking? It turns out that smoking can actually maybe kinda help some people somewhere with that. 😓 (Hyperbolic, I know, but this is what it sounds like to people who understand where the needle is pointing in terms of "optimal" human health when they hear someone jump through hoops trying to convince them that abusive behavior is good for them actually.)

[@StoneAgePHD]

Please explain to me what people ate in ice ages 😂 all this sudo experts , taking BS. Ow this is only for this , short time or specific application , how stupid is this. Its not hard to imagine how our ancestors lived thousands of years ago , and what they ate. We have the same digestive tract. So the child was born in a cave, and after he graduated in hunting, lets say first grade, he says , mommy, i want some potato or rice , better pizza or noodles and some mango for dessert. There was nothing available back then, only animal meat

[@steadfast20-4-26]

😂

[@orchidmuse]

Nothing wrong with it, just that our pre-historic ancestors started 10.000.000 ago and ate insects for some millions of years, then leaves, grass, roots, and nuts, then a few millions later meat, fish and fruits, and some vegetables. The was evolution for 9.000.000 of years before the Ice Age. And during the Ice Age and later we only count some hundreds of thousands of years. And even then they ate some grains, nuts and whatever they could find whenever they could find them. Humans can eat anything in order to survive. Even if meat suits us better and makes us smarter.

[@yodaddamilkman8422]

Exactly, just ask people what would they eat if they had to survive in the wild. Good luck finding some wild broccoli 😂

[@michaelajoseph6856]

Very reasonable arguments. Thank you.

[@schrubelwubel]

Agree about fibre: Cleaning out my intestinal for a colonoscopy did reset my digestion in a good way. Now I'm back to the same mess were I don't know which "healthy" foods and fibres that I eat are messing up my digestion again. 💩🤬

[@charliepan4055]

i am crohn with keto vegan diet. Trying to get a good microbiome and help digestion by making a blend of broken flaxseed, psylium,accacia, artichoke, inulin, patato starch, xantan gum, ceylon cinnamon, fennel, ginger, lemon juice. Half dose than chatgpt advised, to start slow , 12grams a day , 3x4grams. Really feels good now. Now slowly trying to introduce fermentation. First with raw appel cider vinegar and then with self made fermented cucumber, while CAAKG 1 gram is helping me bridge the changes. Most people can progress way quicker than me probably.

[@stingrae789]

Yes because most people aren't fighting the appropriate human diet.

[@charliepan4055]

@@stingrae789 I think you missed the third word in my reaction, that is the reason for my very slow approach. Keto is doing massive good things too. I just gave people an advanced approach too carefully try helping the microbiome.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

​@@charliepan4055 Your microbiome doesn't need help. It will adjust just fine if you take 2-4 weeks to change your diet over slowly. You don't need a special prescription. If you are having digestive issues that's a red flag that you aren't eating the correct diet. Eliminating fibre would do you a world of good with your condition.

[@charliepan4055]

@@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj I had little fibers before this and this mix clearly does a lot of good, which al the lose components cant reach. If it wasnt really good , i wouldnt bother typing anything. Accacia is extra soft and xanthan also, but it shouldnt be to much. All ingredients should be in the correct range, dont go for good, go for best. Why not. You deserve to feel very good.

[@stingrae789]

@@charliepan4055 Just eat meat.

[@aleksandrazimpel8097]

Carnivore is best for me. 6 years done and continue on beef and lamb, occasionally fatty side pork belly and raw egg yolks, water and some salt, not much though

[@OttawaRealEstateAgent]

He really has to "hold himself" for support on this video lol

[@amyfarrell8799]

I have a question for Nick. What about groups of people like the Inuit who live a very restricted diet with very little fiber? Masai also. They do not hzve intestinal problems. Mary ruddack viisted many tribes that ate a very rescrited diet and thrive.

[@tinman8972]

Agreed that carnivores need a dose of humility (I am one). I have GI issues when I consume vegetables and they spike my blood sugar, but that's just me. I feel best on carnivore; but no long-term studies have been done on it so I don't tout it as the answer for everyone.

[@charhilbert517]

I am APOA2 homozygous. This gene marker says saturated fat after 23 gms will put weight on you. I believe this gene is turned on in me. I don’t want to look at fat after a certain amt. I went carnivore for a month and hit the wall where I couldn’t tolerate it any more. I was hungry but couldn’t look at a piece of meat to satiate me. I don’t think it’s for everyone. Sad because my muscles were so strong on it. I am 73 and it felt good to have that muscle strength.

[@blackhillsed4936]

I can see people upset already about this one! 90% carnivore but I eat legumes, tomatoes and bananas w/o issue. I eat L. Reuteri/L.Gasseri yogurt, kefir and kraut, a little with every meal. Would like to hear Nick delve into different bacteria strains like reuteri.

[@CindyCorporon]

Thank you for this video. I am going to eat what makes me feel great. It is not pure carnivore or vegan.

[@nellab5314]

If you like meat though. Occasionally I don’t mind making the effort, but otherwise I’d prefer to choose other foods high in protein

[@daviddad1234]

Most folks say the Standard American Diet but unfortunately it has spread across the globe so unfortunately to me it has become the Standard Global Diet.

[@ladybird169]

It is not.

[@Cemrus1]

I'm carnivore for 2 years already and I disagree. I added kimchi, sauerkraut and other ferments like dr sean o'mara. Took them away, added them again. I never noticed a difference in how I feel. It didn't bother my digestion, but I couldn't say it was necessary

[@arthurschuler8906]

A baby is healthy on milk for the first year so you do not need fiber!

[@orchidmuse]

We are no babies when we grow up. A cow also feeds its baby with milk, but then it eats grass.

[@jackmaddesty]

This was a wholelotta bla bla bla🤷🏻‍♂️ Drink water, Eat fatty meat and other carnivore food and get your optimal health. It’s not rocket science👍

[@KirstiCheetahh]

Hi! Is there proof that a hugh variety in micro organisms in the gut is beneficial? Wouldn't less variety , with just a few species but very good species, be beneficial too? Maybe the most important is to not have the bad species?

[@FredRose2001]

Match your diet to your blood type

[@amyfarrell8799]

Dr davis has a book supergut on healing food sensitivity through healing the microbiome

[@davidt9428]

Nick did not address the actual ancestral argument for carnivore being the proper human diet and if eating the right nutrition it would maximise life span. Given our stomach acid is around the low level of scavengers to kill bacteria it is also questionable if probiotics are helpful beyond the predigestion. The stomach microbiome is in response to what you eat and it make sense that the most suitable microbiome again would be the one that occurs in response to optimal nutrition. However too, figs have been found to be around for at least 800 thousand years so possibly as most like fruit in its natural state it also makes sense that fruit might also be part of our ancestral diet to one extent or another. We are also obviously adaptive to different environmental conditions, like tropical with fruit abundance or cold with only meat, milk and possibly eggs sources available for at least a significant part of the year and here ethnicity too may play a part in what is optimal for each of us individually.

[@JK-or3pw]

I can see the benefits of a carnivore diet after reading that so many people have cured so many diseases. However I managed 2 days then couldn't face it. Started to heave .....bacon and eggs just isn't right without mushrooms, tomatoes and baked beans 😂 A plate of meat is great but personally I need a side of salad and veg and colour on my plate. We are all different , it's not one size fits all.

[@shireesmith2933]

I've been doing carnivore for at least 1.5 years have only lost weight so far no health benefits at all

[@chrisryder1073]

Good post I become weary of hearing about people doing carnivore for weight loss it has far more value than that. Surely microbiom is diet specific, a diverse microbiome will suit a diverse diet, a carnivore diet would require a carnivore specific microbiome until the diet changed such as adding fruit or veges

[@gzayas08]

What's in plants that you can't get in meat other than toxins? Where is the research that shows that carbs/fiber is essential? How are plants better for human CNS/mitochondria over meat? Pretty sure Dr. Price found higher plant diets produced worse health. Yes, that is only one study but still haven't heard a good argument to explain the results otherwise. Need data, not conjecture or analogy.

[@derekfleming746]

folate

[@gzayas08]

@@derekfleming746 it's in liver and eggs, so plant eating is still non-essential

[@derekfleming746]

@@gzayas08 But I keep on seeing KZbin stuff about carnivores testing deficient in folate, the most prominent one being Makhaila Peterson (sp?)

[@EddyFeyen]

Stop talking about microbiom as comments tell you beneath that this is not that important

[@ricksanford6485]

Point being everyone is different there is no cut and dry diet that fits everyone. They have to be treated individually, you cant eat meat like dr berry claims and its good for 100% of the population.

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Just follow the nature. In nature we eat meat, some seasonal fruits and sometimes honey. Simple. You ever seen gurus and experts like Nick in nature? No. Follow the nature, not Nick.

[@rtay0311]

Is it possible both are true?

[@truthcooperator4683]

High carb caarnaavoooreee for the win, let's go! 😂🎉

[@shireesmith2933]

This guy needs to consult Joette Calabrese homeopath

[@dennisward43]

The big problem carnivores have is if they go away from home. How many hotels, cafes, restaurants, airplane meals, etc cater for carnivores? About one in a million. And, if you include horrible seed oils, make it far less than one in a million. But vegans? "Yes sir we can do you a vegan meal, no problem".

[@nexuslockhart]

Carnivores can be fasted easily. The cafes, restaurants, and airplane meals you mentioned are all provided to vegetarians because vegetarians must keep eating, otherwise they claim that stress levels will rise, emotions will get out of control, and blood sugar levels will drop.

[@GoldenBlaisdale]

The problem with this idea that the most diverse micro biome is best, isn't actually a known fact. And Nick likes N of one experiments and there are carnivores on KZbin, scientific minded who have done experiments by testing their microbiome on a mixed diet then going serious carnivore and testing it again and the result, more diverse microbiome on just carnivore. Make it what you will, but this is just like Dave Feldman at the beginning of his research doing n of one experiments on himself, or Nick with his Oreo cookie experiment.

[@robertspinks835]

Just keep off foods that aren’t one ingredient Work out what makes you thrive and eliminate the rest Carnivore, keto ,low carb all good no need to think ones the holy grail

[@ErikBjornson]

Nice. However, humans have eaten carnivore the last 400,000 years up to the start of the agricultural revolution. The burden is 100 percent on those advocating that another diet is optimal regardless of whether it contains seed oils or not. People have to eat something. Hence it is a reasonable position to take that the traditional carnivore diet is optimal unless proven otherwise.

[@yabruf]

He switches from the facts of the carnivore diet to the science fiction of evolution...fail

[@kiartinitikun]

I was on this diet for 4 months, I still ate too much, high protein and fat doesn’t suppress my appetite but increasing more. I would say it is not for everyone. Look at Japanese people !!!! Eat normal food but not big portions like Americans. They look great and healthy

[@dianeclarke9392]

I tanked out on a Lion Diet. Loved the Lion Diet but the lion did not love me. Blood in urine. High makers in liver and kidneys, high blood sugar, low HDL very high LDL, etc. Back to carnivore then to Keto. Me, remission type 2 diabetic off all meds for 4 years. No gallbladder. Keto diet A1C 2 years ago 5.6. This year lion diet A1C 6.8. Disappointed as I believed all the hype on just a meat diet. Not one diet fits all. 🇦🇺😎

[@silasakron4692]

What, and how much did you eat on the "lion diet"? How long did you follow it?

[@silasakron4692]

OP, If you don't reply to questions like mine your anecdote is going to be saddled with (far more) doubt. I always question "it didn't work for me" statements because their "lack of success" is often due to either the omission of information or being ignorant of important factors.