“You EARN the right to be called a gentleman” never a truer word spoken 👏
@ryanthorne54323 ай бұрын
If you buy a watch as an “investment”, you’re just buying a watch for someone else.
@theurbangentry3 ай бұрын
Great comment and point, genius even. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@michelepostpischl71243 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@Mr.CellophaneHart3 ай бұрын
So true, well put.
@GetGwapThisYear3 ай бұрын
Much like buying property, it’s not an investment instrument. If you’re not gonna wear/live in it, leave it alone and let someone else enjoy it.
@mjhastings45343 ай бұрын
I don't agree with the property analogy at all@@GetGwapThisYear
@bsib50213 ай бұрын
My wife was never into watches, i bought her a apple watch she asked for, she now wears a Omega De Ville Prestige. Another win for traditional watches
@leejeremy74113 ай бұрын
I love how TGV stands on his ground and stays sharp. We need more truth tellers than story tellers in this world right now.
@Bob_Smith193 ай бұрын
Nah, we need more Time Tellers 😉
@odawgbrazy143 ай бұрын
Brooklyn trust fund buster transplant screams Christian from Theo & Harris 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Though I know throwing shots is not you Tristano Haha just funny
@leejeremy74113 ай бұрын
@@Bob_Smith19 haha true!
@darensmith23363 ай бұрын
So true
@BenjButtons3 ай бұрын
@@Bob_Smith19 is this sarcasm?? I feel like his content nowadays os just literally reading off specs in like a 6 minute video.
@jimathy19883 ай бұрын
Recently sold my entire "collection" and bought my grail, an IWC Ingenieur 40. Had to add a Casio W86 for beater duty and never been happier. Good health TGV.
@coffeeboyclips19733 ай бұрын
Love the ingenier, it's my current favourite watch, hopefully one day
@rickb636528 күн бұрын
As an older and new watch enthusiast that falls firmly in the "budget luxury" category and has to be prudent with my discretionary spending I'd like to thank you for this video. In between the humor and great production of your videos is a very important and valuable message that helps me navigate my new obsession. I appreciate the content you are putting out. Thanks!
@ognyannikolov47523 ай бұрын
TGV, you are perhaps the best of the very few watch channels left that are still worth watching!
@Butters-s4i3 ай бұрын
Where's the link to Hugo's course? I want to flip watches in 2024!
@edxponceАй бұрын
It's been a while since I've been on watch KZbin lol and love that you have stood your ground all these years and have been true to yourself.
@silentcontender3 ай бұрын
I have to say you, you have the most aesthetic studio on KZbin! I also love how you lay out your watches and design your table layouts.
@TheFranticgamer3 ай бұрын
Let’s face it. Hugo has always been wealthy and never has been “reasonably rich” 😂
@theurbangentry3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
@crunchwrapsupreme88123 ай бұрын
I put 25$ a week away for a new watch and never buy anything over 1000$. Every year im excited to add to my collection because thats all i can afford. Plus im not in debt and paying interest. 🎉 Im two months away from my next watch and im getting a tissot prx chronograph, really excited for this years purchase to add to my collection 😎
@johnviano45843 ай бұрын
Hi TGV, good advice and as an OG, I can confirm this has been your stance for nearly a decade now. It has helped guide me these past years and firmly believe it's best to save for the watch you truly want. Cheers! John
@samnova450Ай бұрын
Very good show. Started collecting watches in March of this year. Have learned allot since then, now I’m trying to focus on better quality watches. Like you said, think I got caught up into impulse buying during sales. Trying to focus on those certain watches I want.
@Michael-fh6lwАй бұрын
@The Urban Gentry- after a year of ups and downs and watching this political turmoil, I found my way back to your channel Sir! Thank you for carrying on and showing us a better perspective on life!!! Loving my Tudor Pelagos as my style and " daily driver" piece..
@silkytp7893 ай бұрын
Those are some of the most compelling points I've heard in a while. Good on you...
@rcmakingtracks183 ай бұрын
Pure class. Video is top quality as always, a work of art by itself. John
@Dropkick_Monger3 ай бұрын
I always get the impression that you don't wear a smartwatch, the smartwatch wears you. It's less of a timepiece and more just another channel for "engagement," a way to gather more datapoints and tether you ever more to the increasingly "always online" world. I've never seen anyone just staring at their smartwatch because they're admiring the aesthetics, the elegance, the artistry. Great video as always! Cheers.
@548vikingsАй бұрын
I’ve been away from the UG for a minute. Turned on his channel when he had his favorite subscribers review their own collections. Extremely entertaining content. UG, your content has gone to another level. Congratulations Sir 😊
@luchoc6023 ай бұрын
Was it just me, or there were several shots directed to Teddy Baldessar? lol
@ggez58902 ай бұрын
He probably was but he isn't man enough to name names and be direct. And he has the gall to call himself a "gentleman" haha
@patrik34502 ай бұрын
@@ggez5890exactly this. I’m tired of this self delusion and this besserwisser mentality of this channel
@cagataycakmak22802 ай бұрын
I see nothing wrong with what Teddy is doing, he shoots the best footage of watches I'm interested in and also sell watches as an AD. It is refreshing to be able to watch a video about a watch without listening to some rambling about being a gentlemen or trivia I'm not interested in.
@radioclash842 ай бұрын
Tgv has become Teddy's Archieluxury 😂
@keesketsers5866Ай бұрын
I can't see anyone watching Teddy's channel and not see he's paid by certain brands. He goes all in on some obscure brand for a while and it stops all of a sudden , never to be mentioned again. That is a paid marketing campain. Period. I cannot respect that when it is not made VERY clear by the channel.
@ExpeditedProductions3 ай бұрын
Preach! Preach! Excellent! Already made my comment before I watched. Now I watched the video, and I was completely in agreement. You nailed it! Stay free. Onward and upward, TGV!
@balconybill3 ай бұрын
A 25 minute video so packed with wisdom and insight that I'll have watch it again later on. Thanks TGV.
@vladimirnovakovic34953 ай бұрын
Nice one! That maintenance string that comes attached with watches is never enough advertised by the Internet bunch for the people to actually get it, especially in the case of mechanical watches.
@vaclav_fejt3 ай бұрын
At the same time, sending a Seiko to the AD every three years for a complete overhaul is nonsensical - and if it isn't, buying a mechanical Seiko in the first place is.
@vladimirnovakovic34953 ай бұрын
@@vaclav_fejt Three years may be nonsensical for a watch sitting in the box most of those years. Wearing it every day in other than office jobs may result in some issues, especially for a low tier Seiko.
@dubester1982Күн бұрын
Very true. I happily wear G Shocks most of the time but will occasionally wear one of my dozen or so autos here and there. I came all the way back full circle and appreciate the simplicity of set it and forget it very much, and the accuracy is incredible.
@daemonicflameАй бұрын
I am just here because you mentioned g shock. My absolute favourite. Tell the time accurately, last forever, look cool, have different timezones and a stopwatch and I can drop them without a care.
@tufelhunden57952 күн бұрын
I’m a bit upset with them at the moment. I bought the solar 5600 as it was the closest to the one I bought in the Corps and my son lost. Not quite the same as it says Solar on it but it has the red line so it was close enough. Now they released one that looks exactly like it but wasn’t $200. Okay not that mad but disappointed. 😂
@noelmurphy34503 ай бұрын
Well said TGV 👏👏 It's so refreshing to hear you cut through all the background noise and crud in the watch internet world and tell it how it really us. Good stuff 👏👏👏
@ggez58902 ай бұрын
Idk, he basically took half the video to throw pot-shots at people like Teddy Baldassarre and Nico Leonard. He should just man up and name names
@ahojnazdar3656Ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@joshsteuterman23633 ай бұрын
“Horological Hemingway.“ I love it. It’s because of these gems that I love your videos!
@aaroncarmichael82633 ай бұрын
Still my favorite watch channel. Thanks for so many years of good reviews and advice my friend.
@Mr.CellophaneHart3 ай бұрын
Just watched the old Persol sunglasses review. Classic, truly classic and mildly humorous. There are some gems in the archives.
@amcc26663 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the thoughtful insights. It would be remiss of me not to add that I'm finding your John Waters' mustache to be simply marvelous darling. Keep up the good works.
@nunopeneda81563 ай бұрын
Dear TGV, again, a second to none production! The content is spot on in this times we are living, indeed you are a beacon to the comunity of watch lovers and for that my total respect. Your courage, passion and most importante you independence is, at least for me, an eye opening and constant learning on the journey of watch colection and to really appreciate the hobby in a positive manner! Thank You! From Portugal with respect!
@jbsp201x3 ай бұрын
The morphine shopping hauls were the best! Especially when you'd forgotten you'd even ordered a certain item...! Glad to hear that the health is great and those hauls are no longer necessary! Great vid, TGV
@darrenhojnacki66363 ай бұрын
I do not have an issue with Aliexpress watches if you understand what you are getting. A few are really well made. Particularly if you want try out something cheap before buying the really expensive watch.
@gritsteel45593 ай бұрын
I agree, especially if the movements are good enough like Seikos, miyotas, Epson, even Seagulls. Servicing ? Forget that, they are so cheap one can buy another one or a new model if they ever fail. If one loves it so much, then just throw away the movement and replace it with a new one (no need to think of expensive servicing fees here, no hidden "tax" :)). So while earning to buy that grail watch, at least one is able to wear a nice watch or watches in the meantime. One needn't have to live so austerely while saving up to buy that grail watch. Furthermore, sometimes a homage of a grail can convince you that you really don't like the grail watch after all. On the other hand, if you like the homage so much after all, then it can motivate you more to save up for the real one.
@wingi77223 ай бұрын
Yes - I actually did this. I wanted a Tudor FXD Chrono but needed to know if I'd enjoy wearing one without spending trukloads to find that maybe I didn't. So I purchased a Strategic Rabbit (Tactical Frog) FXD off Aliexpress and found that I did in fact enjoy the look, which led to me purchasing a Fudor FXD Chrono a few months later. I still do wear the Strategic Rabbit sometimes - eg as a beater...
@gillyharwood3 ай бұрын
I love buying vintage inspired watches on AE. You get the vintage look but built with updated materials with a reliable Japanese movement. I have vintage watches but worn on special occasions and can’t be worn on a daily basis. My issue with UG is that some of the views are hypocritical especially towards some brands which homage no longer made watches. I came across the Island x Urban Gentry ISL-226 RangeMaster .. what a mashup of well known watches. The name a cross between Tudor and Omega , the numerals Rolex Explorer, the hands Tudor Ranger, the 24hr dial Hamilton. Does this fit into one of the categories or should there be an new category for this type of watch ?
@gritsteel45593 ай бұрын
@@wingi7722 The channel WATCHing James also has another reason for a homage. He likes a certain Panerai design, but it is a watch he will not pay for or save for, but he likes the design. It's like I like a field watch, but not enough to buy an IWC even if I can, or even a $1k Hamilton. A homage will do ...
@omiq77613 ай бұрын
In addition, the NH35 homages are usually simply just awesome bang for buck. I like the design of Yacht Master but most likely will never own one for obvious reasons. Let alone use one in situation where it might get banged or dropped. Or travelling, I don't like the idea of taking even remotely expensive watch with me on a holiday trip abroad. A homage will do just fine.
@kriss24523 ай бұрын
Thanks, dear TGV, for being so well rooted in the real world.
@richardbell4663 ай бұрын
Fair comments TGV. Yes too many replicants out there. You're definitely a refined human. A gentleman.
@ninjasrose16533 ай бұрын
The watch world needed to hear these points. Powerful stuff TGV!
@Phil5150Bower3 ай бұрын
The most of the time I wear a Garmin Tactix 7 but I’ll always go back to old school favourites from my Swiss collection, variety is the spice of life.
@BobMarley-pm1xb3 ай бұрын
Superb vid TGV. You and Sir Mountbatten outdid yourselves on this bust em in their phony corporate chops vid. Brilliant! The OS in my 1969 Heuer apparently needs an update….some bug or some such. Can’t wait for the redux! Thanks
@romanmichaelhamilton87293 ай бұрын
TGV, you're the real deal. Each video I watch I gain more and more deserved respect for you. Every word you said in this video is 100% true.
@danlscan3 ай бұрын
I've been enjoying your content very much today. This one was very thought provoking and entertaining. What a great idea.
@ricardorgomez12 күн бұрын
It always bring joy to me when someone talks about 'not going into debt over a xxxxx'. I mean, what product or service is worth that? And people take watch collecting WAY to serious... It's just a hobby..... Digging that FC you're wearing... I've appreciated that style but never saw one that truly clicked with me. And certainly... The price helps! Best!
@aaronkeyes89433 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Could not agree more. Have a great day sir!
@chris5553 ай бұрын
Just only watched the intro & already ❤ loving this video!
@michaelh82753 ай бұрын
Two very good videos in a row... Keep up the good work
@simtye883 ай бұрын
Did you just call out worn and wound?! Ouch. Thought they were your guys! Great video as always man!
@theurbangentry3 ай бұрын
Thank you, very much appreciated! Onwards and upwards. Best regards, TGV
@thomaseickhoff3 ай бұрын
I enjoy your psychological and cultural insights immensely, TGV. Still the gold standard of all watch channels IMHO.
@hectorandem29443 ай бұрын
I thought the intro sounded a little too familiar, so seeing Tai Lopez on my screen again after all these years gave me severe mental whiplash! 🤣 Well made vid, as always 👍
@JohnBrown-go1ro3 ай бұрын
I think smart watches serve a purpose especially if you’re trying to improve your fitness. The Garmin Instinct Crossover has analog hands and traditional lume, looks like a G-Shock😊
@mpw6213 ай бұрын
I use the Fitbit 'smart watch' for running then switch over to automatics for daily wear.
@keesketsers5866Ай бұрын
I also have the crossover, only wear it when working out or when I have a specific reason to (like paying something without being able to bring a wallet). For me it's 100% a tool I use when needed. I wear (atm) a Seamaster for daily use. Both suit me fine when needed.
@bryanbeckett8693 ай бұрын
My god I forgot all about that fella with his Lamborghini and books. The amount of ads I used to get for this was insane.
@hogboy54883 ай бұрын
Great content as usual TGV. There are a few other creators out there but if I see another "top 10 Ali Express" videos in my feed I'm going to stick spring bar tools in my eyes
@khronosbest94483 ай бұрын
It all comes down to need vs want. I need 3 watches, which I have and enjoy. I want several more ( ridiculously expensive and I’m not selling property to satisfy that want ) but that isn’t happening. Appreciate your take on all of thIs TGV ! 🍻
@creato9383 ай бұрын
Great List, i do agree with pretty much everything, i honestly feel more comfortable buying pieces i can keep in the long run at a lower cost and nice jab at the get rich quick online courses that are everywhere now a days, there is only one way to make money and it's working for real, onwards and upwards!
@theurbangentry3 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏 O&U. Thank you my friend. LOVE IT. Best regards, TGV
@johnholkham24203 ай бұрын
The dress watch comment is spot on, why pay huge amounts for a rarely worn watch. Spend the most on the watch you wear regularly. Big fan of the ETA 2892 / Sellita 300 , a quality movement at a reasonable price. It was good ed for Omega and IWC for many years.
@Kalmar9173 ай бұрын
Great video and really good valid points. I have family members that have bought from several Grey Market Dealers. The one that they like is Swisswatch Expo, Moyer’s and Fox and Bailey in downtown Raleigh. They did name a couple in the DC area as well. These are folks that own Patek’s from 70s and 80s era and a few Rolex models. In any case you are correct on all your points.
@darensmith23363 ай бұрын
TGV great video as always.
@silentcontender3 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking about that Hanhart Preventor ever since you released that episode. I’m just a normal middle class American and my favorite watch in my collection is the Hamilton Khaki Auto. After seeing the Hanhart you helped design, I’ve decided to sell 4 of my watches I hardly ever wear and pick it up! Keep up the great work brother!
@theurbangentry3 ай бұрын
Wow, that is a real power move. Putting aside my involvement, it's ballsy, and for a brand like that, pure class. Now adding myself back into the picture, this made my day. I am deeply honored by the gesture and choice. It shows character, good taste and the strength to act on your convictions. That is getting rare these days. I hope it brings you a life time of faithful service and adventures. Thank you so much, onwards and ever upwards. Best regards, TGV
@silentcontender3 ай бұрын
@@theurbangentry you definitely are a man of great taste and very ethical. You’ve made my day as well ❤️ thank you for introducing me to Hanhart. I’ve been into watches for 5-6 years now and that video was my first exposure to the brand. Very underrated from what it seems!
@John-oo4ec3 ай бұрын
Excellence in editing. Great job.
@Cameri7603 ай бұрын
TGV, I respect and admire your unrelenting desire for believing in your morals and ethics, and actually following through with them. The last take on smart watches and their disposable, transient existence truly resonated with me. I would be absolutely delighted if you made a video essay about this topic in more depth. In these times of compromised and corrupted journalism, I feel that we need it now more than ever. Regards from Canada. 🇨🇦
@Peter-Alexander3 ай бұрын
Great video again! Couldn't agree more with you.
@jeremycorrao3 ай бұрын
Great video! I agree 100%. You should always practice what you preach! cheers my friend!
@pawepanfilewicz9883 ай бұрын
That's a really nice Lambo, Hugo ;).
@Tavarahissi3 ай бұрын
Good video! I never consider Apple watch an watch. It`s more of a convenience screen for the phone. Main threat to watches would be peoples constant interest to needlessly monitor their vitals -- steps, heart rate etc. Smartrings like Oura would free peoples wrists. Lately I`ve been looking for good Eagle 7 and I have to say their market is infested with franken watches. So if anyone can guide me to a site or a video with examples of original Eagle 7`s and how to spot the franken watches better that would be nice.
@MaroMarenio3 ай бұрын
Thank you Hugo! You are my inspiration 👏
@tilio93803 ай бұрын
Always love a good Hugo intro. And once again, I would like to see the B roll of TGV recording as Hugo.
@Astro80s3 ай бұрын
Loving the new desk setup
@Trapvision3D3 ай бұрын
This vid is filled gems. You put in some valuable work on this content. Lead the charge my friend and keep putting out these bangers!
@davidperkins6053 ай бұрын
Wel said TGV, i could not have summarized the smart watch better, 👍
@maithuinas3 ай бұрын
Great content , yes a Gentleman . Good luck .🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Mr1MOA3 ай бұрын
Outstanding TGV!!! Another great video!!
@modernworldiscrap3 ай бұрын
Really interesting video. Thank you TGV
@ggez58903 ай бұрын
Basically called out Nico and Teddy heard without actually naming names
@mirkosaligari3 ай бұрын
Great content TGV, I agree on all points. The 2 stop watches on your desk are gorgeous (Hanhart, correct?). Ciao
@bighoss7603Ай бұрын
Great intro!
@halfsharona3 ай бұрын
Always admire the honesty.
@RobertLittle-g8i3 ай бұрын
This was the most helpful guide I’ve seen!
@Grannn3 ай бұрын
Excellent video Tristano :) Eagerly awaiting your new watch as I am sure it won't cost more than two months of my current salary :)
@digginstony13 ай бұрын
Great video and always stand up for what you believe. I'm not so sure that the smart watch is a threat to the mechanical watch, but possibly the entry level. After all , us that buy or wear a mechanical watch, are wearing something that's been pretty much obsolete since the end of 1969.
@richardmorris70632 ай бұрын
So is a hemisphere Cuda but they're bring in 2 million for a 4k$ original sticker.
@ConstanTime3 ай бұрын
Excellent points! Especially about dealer reviews
@joshuabriggs71143 ай бұрын
Particularly agree with your take on "Smart Watches"!
@JamesTaylor-n1u3 ай бұрын
Same. Surveillance nightmares & signal an inability to think for one's self. Ghastly.
@williamvanapeldoorn60543 ай бұрын
Amazing, well-put-together video! 👌
@mrgee0073 ай бұрын
So so true my friend, keep up doing what you do, love your story telling, the mutts! ❤❤
@mikefleissner44153 ай бұрын
Thanks for Hugo.lifestyles of the rich and famous watch flippers.Fantastic relevant content for today. I'll watch this 1 10x
@WarriorKidd063 ай бұрын
I use Clockology on my Apple Watch and have a ton of faces on it to spice it up (Rolex, AP, Omega, Longines, Richard Mille, etc.) I also plan on getting more watch bands and straps to spice up the creativity. But I understand your point with Apple Watches. I just wouldn’t have it at the top spot
@Ashmojahed3 ай бұрын
love your work , keep it up
@David-vi9jq3 ай бұрын
Another great video. At least no new stuff the buy on this one. I got to buy that Hanhart collaboration and love it, by the way. Excellent watch.
@ThePlaiibox3 ай бұрын
Great. Happy evening me love a new TGV release. Sat here with my new ML pontos S diver too. Fully agree about the ETA / Sellita thing. Both are rock solid and all the movement most of us ever really need.
@WatchWiseUS3 ай бұрын
I got conned by one of those "hype/limited ed" KZbin channels a few months ago. I even reviewed it myself when I bought it, and I loved it - for a while. Now it's running about 4 minutes fast. Their website is going down every few days, and no one is responding to emails at their company. I even tried leaving a comment in the original video, but it was ignored. Some might say I should sell it on and pass the problem to the next guy, but I can't do that. The money is gone, but I will keep that watch as a reminder to never be taken like that again. Edit: I'm going to make a video about this watch and what happened with them this week. Now I'm mad I fell for it. I'm not in this for the approval of luxury brands (or any brand). I started watching you because (a) we're both English and Italian, and (b) you are genuine in your views and reviews. I started making videos because I have some experience with journalism from console magazines in the 90s, and I thought I could use it in a different form. However, I'm starting to see the other side of this industry, and even though I lost money, I want to protect others from losing theirs.
@Valera_Scotland3 ай бұрын
I think you're spot on.. you are staying true to your strong opinion. And I agree with you... my daily is a 2561.80 seamaster 36mm from 1993....tritium... on the steel bracelet . Total 90s Bond beauty. And I don't miss the fact that it can't tell me how many steps I've done....
@kevinpfeif43463 ай бұрын
Spot on! Smart watches are soulless shells. Papa Hayek got it right years ago: " A mechanical watch has a heartbeat - true soul" You feel it every time you wear it.
@TheMaikjon3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Seems, that TUG ist one of the few reliable (honest) channels here. Attitude and inegrity is priceless. It‘s like style. Never a matter of money. You have it or you don‘t. Please, don‘t let yourself corrupt in future. The path to dark side is very, very short
@mk841423 ай бұрын
I think the tide is turning with AE watches. Some are just cheap poor quality design copies but many are really good watches that truly are homages and also original designs. But anyone that places more value on heritage/history wont ever really like them but same goes for microbrands. I think they all have their place and if you know what you want then its fine. I respect you for standing up for your perspectives. Everyone has their own watch journey and we should all standby our own journey. Great video as usual! Thanks.
@avalchinov3 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks as always!
@thedriver083 ай бұрын
In this day and age of all the watch journalism bullshit and snobisme, the Urban Gentry with TGV is like a save haven. An island in the middle of gigantic storm, if you will. I've been watching this channel for almost 10 years now, and the content still is just as good as it was all these years ago. Keep up the great work 👍
@Javi_C3 ай бұрын
The intro 😂😂😂 Thanks for always making me smile TGV!
@noisepuppet3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the intro throwback homage to "nawledge" huckster bro dude
@josh_92703 ай бұрын
Great video!
@craiglang8323 ай бұрын
Only one I don’t agree with is smart watch. Smart watches I believe are the gateway that youngsters need to perhaps lead them into the world of watches. Great video
@jamiehull72383 ай бұрын
Completely agree with both your options and morality TGV. A code of decency and self-respect over fake image and poor understanding of what a watch can be. Buy F-91W it has far more credibility than any designer, fake or smart watch!
@stuartdavies7351Ай бұрын
No.5 - thank you for this!No truer for 2024 can be said than for Studio Underdog. Original / quirky designs apart, is anyone else bored to the back teeth of seeing them absolutely everywhere?
@keesketsers5866Ай бұрын
Smartwatches. I actually found out I had a heart irregularity from high blood pressure by wearing a Withings hybrid smartwatch for a while. They have a use, sometimes. But I don't like wearing one. I always turn off notifications etc. Normally I wear mechanical watches (Seamaster 300m atm).
@MichaelAguila3 ай бұрын
Great video, Hugo! I have to say I have a Samsung smart watch that is close to ten years old and it still works fine for my needs without new software updates. I imagine it's probably not even supported anymore. I don't know about Apple watches but for the sake of clarity, I would say smart watches are not all made with built-in obsolescence.