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@TheVerge
@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the new Edge browser?
@niravpatel9182
@niravpatel9182 4 жыл бұрын
It works for me.
@TheOxiongarden
@TheOxiongarden 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing
@yogurt630
@yogurt630 4 жыл бұрын
pretty good
@shivamagarwal9522
@shivamagarwal9522 4 жыл бұрын
Has pretty less stuff going for it to stand out from chrome , not much reasons to use it over chrome. Previous edge was much lighter, somewhat faster and cleaner
@AtomSimbol
@AtomSimbol 4 жыл бұрын
Firefox is still the best for me, versatile and reliable. Chrome for fast basic browsing and chromecasting. Why should I use edge?
@slow_bike_show
@slow_bike_show 4 жыл бұрын
Behold: The edgebook
@zaafarj
@zaafarj 4 жыл бұрын
Surface Pro Edge
@Raptor51693
@Raptor51693 4 жыл бұрын
Zaafar Jat mmmm so edgy
@Toothily
@Toothily 4 жыл бұрын
It's a lean meme machine
@kreasu
@kreasu 4 жыл бұрын
Uaa dammit take my upvote
@mattixone
@mattixone 4 жыл бұрын
.. for edgelords.
@jobmen1992
@jobmen1992 4 жыл бұрын
3:40 “Microsoft is really good at managing windows.”
@faheemahmadofficial7701
@faheemahmadofficial7701 4 жыл бұрын
DAMN!!!
@kav12ab
@kav12ab 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes
@israellewis5484
@israellewis5484 4 жыл бұрын
@@kav12ab Together, we can stop this!
@DenizBoz
@DenizBoz 4 жыл бұрын
0:44 windows reflecting on windows.
@Frangly
@Frangly 4 жыл бұрын
Winception
@avinier325
@avinier325 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to tell that
@TheVerge
@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! 😎 -- Vjeran
@ForeverMan
@ForeverMan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice but I think those are spotlights
@berliandro
@berliandro 4 жыл бұрын
0:43 Damn! That reflection of window really looks good 🔥🔥
@SankoshSaha_01
@SankoshSaha_01 4 жыл бұрын
That was a clever idea to add, Windows..
@TheVerge
@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
Vjeran is was so excited to get that shot when we were doing the original review lol - Dieter
@MicCheckMemoirs
@MicCheckMemoirs 4 жыл бұрын
Windows OS
@PAVCo-wk6lq
@PAVCo-wk6lq 4 жыл бұрын
Diter just wants to run LIGHT ROOM
@TheVerge
@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
I REALLY DO - Dieter
@PAVCo-wk6lq
@PAVCo-wk6lq 4 жыл бұрын
i see that......use an ipad!
@macaoron
@macaoron 4 жыл бұрын
In a pinch you can use Lightroom on the web lol
@Dare2Blink
@Dare2Blink 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVerge it's coming
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVerge not the device for you then 🙄
@taoin5560
@taoin5560 4 жыл бұрын
- The edge browser is light years better then chrome, it has all the features of chrome, plus more, as well as not using as much memory.
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm finding the same. It's really nippy in speed and general use.
@narwhal4304
@narwhal4304 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I'm not a heavy tab-user, because I've noticed that Chrome with KZbin, Twitter, and an article open uses less memory than other browsers like Firefox and Edge. Edit: I should clarify that Chrome used less ram than other browsers with the same pages open.
@merrillben
@merrillben 4 жыл бұрын
Not running Lightroom is Adobe’s fault, not Microsoft’s. I love what they’re doing here.
@brendendelong2109
@brendendelong2109 4 жыл бұрын
They should have a huge sign on the the store page of the surface pro x saying “EXPERIMENTAL DOES NOT SUPPORT ALL WINDOWS APPS OR PROGRAMS”; if ads were honest imao.
@imnotbreno
@imnotbreno 4 жыл бұрын
@Rerin YL Any big company would put money on the game to make them popular.
@cldpt
@cldpt 4 жыл бұрын
it's a supply and demand market. There's no user base, hence Adobe hasn't needed to. A quick look at the iPad scene hints to Adobe's strategy on this (i.e. they are releasing a lot of stuff for iPad OS).
@cr1m203
@cr1m203 4 жыл бұрын
@Rerin YL The problem with Microsoft is 99% off their ecosystem is x86 and they only have "one device" running on arm. For anyone to recompile code for Microsoft they would need to give up x86 all over the OEMS. Difference between Apple and Microsoft, Apple controls their own hardware and software while Microsoft does not. Microsoft has way too many partners and licenses for OEM's on x86 to give all that up for arm native apps. Remember Microsoft does not control 90% of the hardware market just the software. What you speak of can be done with Apple because they are switching their desktop line over to arm. Apple created their own ISA system while Microsoft is still lagging behind. The whole Apple line will be ARM while Microsoft is not even close to being a hybrid. This is why Microsoft keeps failing at these attempts.
@msp5138
@msp5138 3 жыл бұрын
@@cr1m203 The problem with your logic is that there are 35 million apps/programs on Windows compared to 1.9 million on iPads. So millions more apps can't run on iPads compared to the SPX.
@espetech8395
@espetech8395 4 жыл бұрын
The Verge has a wide variety of audiences. Adobe Lightroom is not Used by everyone. This machine is LTE compatible and the price is similar to other LTE available Windows laptop. In My humble opinion the Verge should start reviewing devices for different types of people with different type of use case.
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. It's even cheaper than a similarly speced IPad Pro. Which is limited too. But popular.
@Basicallynoode
@Basicallynoode 4 жыл бұрын
Alex McCaffrey this is so much more limited than an iPad Pro though. The iPad has access to over 80 million free apps and millions more of premium paid apps. On top of that it has better specs
@milkaaymk
@milkaaymk 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just lightroom. Its every app that is 64bit
@espetech8395
@espetech8395 4 жыл бұрын
@@milkaaymk That's why I stated that Lightroom is not used by everyone. If you knew what I meant.
@WarAlex16
@WarAlex16 4 жыл бұрын
Yep my surface pro x is more useful than my iPad Pro for college. Full blown browser, lockdown browser program for exams and quizzes, complete Microsoft work office, etc. My iPad Pro has notability, mobile version of Microsoft office, etc.
@PERRIERhp
@PERRIERhp 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that x86_64 emulation is in the works, windows on arm gonna stay around for a little while longer
@bonaquack
@bonaquack 4 жыл бұрын
Alur You know, MSFT has a bad reputation of abrupt cancellation.
@Esablaka
@Esablaka 4 жыл бұрын
@@bonaquack way less than google though.
@nakdickson
@nakdickson 4 жыл бұрын
But why can't developers recompile their apps for ARM?
@afrozshaikh9099
@afrozshaikh9099 4 жыл бұрын
@@nakdickson it will take year's for apps like Photoshop and nobody wants to invest money on platform which have low user base.
@bonaquack
@bonaquack 4 жыл бұрын
@@nakdickson it does not always work for most legacy apps written in low level languages
@Toothily
@Toothily 4 жыл бұрын
"3:2 screen which is the best aspect ratio ..... _yes it is_ " 😄
@wifal6874
@wifal6874 4 жыл бұрын
Early thinkpad users all like:
@MrDarren690
@MrDarren690 4 жыл бұрын
@@wifal6874 I so want a 4:3 ThinkPad T60!! I have a Pixelbook but 3:2 is still slightly rectangular.
@Frangly
@Frangly 4 жыл бұрын
I think I agree with that aspect ratio.
@TheVerge
@TheVerge 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is - Dieter
@PureGamesInc
@PureGamesInc 4 жыл бұрын
*3:2
@IanBetteridge
@IanBetteridge 4 жыл бұрын
So true about the aspect ratio. HOWEVER... Most people don’t use light room. I have one of these because I mostly use Office and Office is compiles for ARM and that’s great.
@freddybell8328
@freddybell8328 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people buy tablets specifically for Lightroom though.
@IanBetteridge
@IanBetteridge 4 жыл бұрын
Freddy Ummmmmmm....
@IanBetteridge
@IanBetteridge 4 жыл бұрын
Behrang Saeedzadeh Maybe, but don’t forget if you’re a corporate which exists on Office 365, that is pretty much everything you’ll ever do other than web apps. Sure, if you’re a creative professional that’s different - but real power hungry pros aren’t looking at a $1000-1500 machine, they want 32GB of RAM etc (it’s not that long since The Verge and others were saying the MacBook Pro wasn’t “pro” because it was limited to 16GB...)
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
@@freddybell8328 they then have a wealth of choice.
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
@Behrang Saeedzadeh nope. It runs everything I use on a laptop well.
@seemarathore6120
@seemarathore6120 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy when this dude is in the video
@reubentettey1635
@reubentettey1635 4 жыл бұрын
Best Reviewer Right
@jezza_fat
@jezza_fat 4 жыл бұрын
I think Dieter should be the face of the verge and not nilay.
@jonmkl
@jonmkl 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft: sees video *“Announcing, the Edgebook!”*
@thelookofdisapproval8234
@thelookofdisapproval8234 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why every Windows on ARM review turns into "It doesn't run photoshop, and look how slow chrome runs" I get it that the technology isn't ready yet, but the concept is tempting. and what's interesting is what it could become
@reservoir_flow
@reservoir_flow 4 жыл бұрын
... because people aren't buying it in 2 or 5 years when all the kinks are matted out, they're looking to buy it *now*. All those concessions make sense if these were all prototypes but they're made, priced and sold as competition to current solutions. As a reviewer, it makes sense to then compare it to those current solutions, especially when talking about different use cases. It wouldn't make sense to ignore those use cases because of what the tech could be given enough time
@DrRDW
@DrRDW 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, plus 80 percent of people aren't doing photo and video editing. That's a niche market in itself.
@samswift1718
@samswift1718 4 жыл бұрын
The Look Of Disapproval cough iPad cough
@bradavon
@bradavon 4 жыл бұрын
Me neither. It is ready though. And to be fair this isn't what this review turned into.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the bad old chicken-and-egg problem: vendors won’t port their proprietary software to the new platform, because they don’t see customers demanding it. And customers won’t buy it, because the proprietary software isn’t available for it. Ironically, the Linux stack (WSL) offers a full suite of 64-bit native apps. So a machine built specifically by Microsoft to run Windows, ends up demonstrating why Linux is such a superior OS.
@sloppyjoe9156
@sloppyjoe9156 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this the intended use case in the first place?
@thelookofdisapproval8234
@thelookofdisapproval8234 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I don't get why every review of ACPC boils down to "It doesn't run photoshop, and look how slow chrome runs"
@1jackset1
@1jackset1 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, you don't buy this computer for running photoshop or lightroom, god
@MrDarren690
@MrDarren690 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. All these reviews of the Surface Pro X are completely missing the point...sorry Dieter, but you're a bit late.
@ilhamrj2599
@ilhamrj2599 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelookofdisapproval8234 thats because of the price point of Surface Pro X which is comparable to full-fledge laptop.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 жыл бұрын
sloppy Joe Yes, it was, either a secondary device for those that can afford it, or for certain workflows that do not include gaming or intense creative apps. It is much like an iPad or Chromebook, all have certain restrictions, but if they are not an issue then these devices will work well. Just hope MS does not give up on it due to poor sales , eBay selling at 40% off after a few weeks second-hand with users ill-informed and not what they expected. With Windows X coming, WOA may be thrown aside like its predecessors especially if the hype of Window X is matched in reality?
@elwis99
@elwis99 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video with Diter! Well let's be real he makes the best KZbin videos for The Verge!
@Marrow1ne
@Marrow1ne 4 жыл бұрын
idk I love Becca's videos
@elwis99
@elwis99 4 жыл бұрын
@@Marrow1ne I like them too but she's reviewing more cameras and I'm more in phones and computers.
@randelcarpio
@randelcarpio 4 жыл бұрын
Get this man Lightroom on ARM
@bradavon
@bradavon 2 жыл бұрын
Lightroom and Photoshop have been Native on Windows on ARM since 2021.
@colinmannutube
@colinmannutube 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares about lightroom? The pro x runs every program I need
@fabiosegato8324
@fabiosegato8324 4 жыл бұрын
but that makes you wonder whatever other apps it can run smoothly or cannot...it's a bit a of high-risk strategy for that money.
@uros2404
@uros2404 4 жыл бұрын
I remember from while ago there were some laptops for education that have Qualcomm 7c processor and a really low price tag so this video kind of made sense for any of upcoming Windows on ARM devices, especially the "mid-range" ones (if they perform well) with 7c/8c in them. They could be a really nice devices for some web browsing, Spotify, maybe even Netflix for some bedroom binging.
@MansoorDev
@MansoorDev 4 жыл бұрын
The whole video in a nutshell: I love you as a friend!
@ElGordoFreeman
@ElGordoFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
Mansoor Ahmad the surface x is a great product, but Apple does better, limited, useless, but better
@cldpt
@cldpt 4 жыл бұрын
you been chromezoned
@KieronSmithMusic
@KieronSmithMusic 4 жыл бұрын
How come every time he says "you shouldn't buy this computer" I think..."I want this computer"
@Ronnet
@Ronnet 4 жыл бұрын
It's the magic of human irrationality.
@sa34w
@sa34w 4 жыл бұрын
Dieter are you feeling ok?
@tusharkanwaria267
@tusharkanwaria267 4 жыл бұрын
**. Microsoft putting heart and soul into making chromebook. ** *The verge* - It's accident *Microsoft* - Am I joke to you?
@cr1m203
@cr1m203 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Microsoft is a joke. The only thing they got half right is the Xbox.
@wendelynmusic
@wendelynmusic 4 жыл бұрын
So people will recommend an iPad pro with pencil and keyboard which runs upward of $1700 and that clearly doesn't do as much as the pro x but somehow this is not worth the money every though it works just as well and in most cases better than the Ipad. Hmmm.
@jaihind8490
@jaihind8490 4 жыл бұрын
u can play pubg lol
@HerreDePerre
@HerreDePerre 4 жыл бұрын
If you use a iPad for some time you will understand why people love it.
@msp5138
@msp5138 3 жыл бұрын
@@HerreDePerre iPads are big iPhones, nothing more nothing else. This why there market share has dropped from 80% to 34% over the past decade...
@robojimtv
@robojimtv 4 жыл бұрын
A Surface Go X at 600-800 would be killer. I've been wanting a good tablet with 4G that isn't an iPad for a while.
@amydeltoro4356
@amydeltoro4356 4 жыл бұрын
My main interest in this device is the 4G LTE option since I’m more often than not in areas without easily accessible WiFi, but almost all the reviews I’ve seen mention the price not being worth it. What are some better priced devices that would allow me to continue working from remote locations?
@leonardorodriguez9121
@leonardorodriguez9121 4 жыл бұрын
There are not =)
@LzysGraphics
@LzysGraphics 4 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely say Chrome OS has been doing window management for a few years now, there are keyboard shortcuts the ability to drag the window to the side and even clicking the toggle full screen button in the top right and dragging left or right. Chrome books can also now make calls from your laptop using an android device and have been able to view and send messages for a while.
@LzysGraphics
@LzysGraphics 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video and can’t wait to see Microsoft’s Chromium based Edge browser get better and raise the bar
@Tyler_ThaTruth
@Tyler_ThaTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft: hmm let's scrap this thing and make a new quick and call it "The Surface Edge"
@sathyamoorthy8763
@sathyamoorthy8763 4 жыл бұрын
I think ede browser is going to kill safari's and Firefox's market share because my computer runs with i3 processor edge is the only fastest browser in my computer
@DenizBoz
@DenizBoz 4 жыл бұрын
sathya moorthy Does Safari have any market share on Windows market?
@distortion1582
@distortion1582 4 жыл бұрын
@@DenizBoz Bwhahahahha
@AdityaSingh-nt1hs
@AdityaSingh-nt1hs 4 жыл бұрын
I never go for anything other than Firefox unless I’m using my iPad or iPhone and that too because Safari is always there in the quick access bar
@hito4863
@hito4863 4 жыл бұрын
Deniz Boz ironically, since there used to be a Safari for Windows, you can still technically run it and there is likely at least 1 person out there who does.
@damar1967
@damar1967 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, just like Visual Studio Code
@johncraig1637
@johncraig1637 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope the next generation surface go lands with an arm option.....light, always connected, great for productivity and affordable.
@cafeconcremas
@cafeconcremas 4 жыл бұрын
2020 and we still consider a DRAWBACK to take a few minutes to log into some Cortana tutorial set-up thing? Oh, k.
@chrischoy9
@chrischoy9 4 жыл бұрын
Who even uses Cortana
@LumiRockets
@LumiRockets 4 жыл бұрын
Fingers still crossed for an ARM powered Surface Go sequel.
@kbhasi
@kbhasi 4 жыл бұрын
3:21 You pasted a Verge logo over the Google logo?!
@SvDKILLSWITCH
@SvDKILLSWITCH 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, with how Google has handled Chrome OS recently, plus some of the larger issues with the direction of Chrome as a browser in general, I think Windows on ARM as an alternative solution to Chrome OS has plenty of merit. If Microsoft can sort out the emulation side of things (AMD64 emulation should help a lot), and the price of the hardware can come down to reasonable levels for larger mainstream adoption, I can see app developers getting on board with the idea and every app that adds native support for ARM will only make the proposition more appealing for the average user of a laptop or tablet who just needs to do a bit of web browsing or document editing and not things like high end gaming or 4K video editing. People can get the familiarity and flexibility of Windows with the portability and endurance of a typical ARM tablet - assuming all the stars line up. I'd personally much prefer to use that as a second device over something as locked down as an iPad, though I know I'm hardly in the majority.
@Nishith8
@Nishith8 4 жыл бұрын
You can have your opinion but now I think pixelbook is better option than surface Pro X.
@PsyberSenpai
@PsyberSenpai 4 жыл бұрын
Edge is finally my most favorite browser and I can't believe I am saying this.
@NaeemTHM
@NaeemTHM 4 жыл бұрын
Awwww yeah 6 minutes in the Bohn Zone
@brianwolters7560
@brianwolters7560 4 жыл бұрын
I am getting a Surface Pro X tomorrow...being an Android and heavy Google Services user, how well does Edge For Android integrate with my Android Phone? I wanted to load Chrome on this but afraid of battery drain.
@megan-n-dad
@megan-n-dad 3 жыл бұрын
Always love your review. It is always spot on. Surface Pro X has been one of my favorite device and exactly like you said I treated it similar to Chromebook. Run mostly my app in the Edge browser, pin it as PWA app and all work great. Now fast forward to 2021, with Windows 11, where 64 bit app natively supported as well, it makes this device much useable too.
@rahadianrihadi
@rahadianrihadi 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Edge: Install site as Web Apps feature works like a charm on Mac OS too!
@clemenslucas
@clemenslucas 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for the Chrometana Tip!!!
@msp5138
@msp5138 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you aren't very smart if you are listening to this clown. Can a chromebook run statistical or engineering software? Trying thinking for yourself...
@neontyler6663
@neontyler6663 4 жыл бұрын
0:44 what a shot ❤️
@AaronHerbst
@AaronHerbst 4 жыл бұрын
1:42 that lag
@vijaypraveen6032
@vijaypraveen6032 4 жыл бұрын
if you drag the window to the side it will happen
@vandeljasonstrypper6734
@vandeljasonstrypper6734 4 жыл бұрын
through my experience with windows 10 that's not lag because it still respond fast he somehow turn off the animation of windows 10
@dariugui
@dariugui 4 жыл бұрын
Might be a slowmo shot
@ark_knight
@ark_knight 4 жыл бұрын
you must be really looking for that lag. like REALLY
@shryx86
@shryx86 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty in this video. I agree, the Pro X is too expensive and it's not clear who it was made for. Just give me the Surface Book 2 screen as a stand alone product and I'm happy.
@shauryapatel3498
@shauryapatel3498 4 жыл бұрын
It is exactly because of people saying it doesn't even run programs that we can't really move forward and companies like Intel still exist. The problem is just so we can keep the customers happy we have to provide "backwards" compatibility, that's only possible with architectures that make it possible(read bad engineering). Some amount of sacrifice is required for better experiences in the future. This is the sacrifice.
@EnellGmz
@EnellGmz 4 жыл бұрын
What if you want multiple instances of the same app open? Can you do something like that on edge?
@King0fHero
@King0fHero 4 жыл бұрын
just open another tab I guess
@ddjalil
@ddjalil 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Doing it right now.
@dennisanderson8663
@dennisanderson8663 4 жыл бұрын
ChromeOS is still crappier than Android. Companies need to concentrate on bringing the Android OS to laptops. There are already versions like Android x86 and Phoenix OS but they are not perfect.
@umangmalik
@umangmalik 4 жыл бұрын
This is good but honestly the increasing hegemony of Chromium is terrifying. It's open source on paper but Google basically has full control over the whole thing and that really does not bode well, monopoly-wise.
@inforneer
@inforneer 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.. I've owned 3 MS surface products.. go, laptop and pro. Shall I consider to buy this again?
@FisayoFosudo
@FisayoFosudo 4 жыл бұрын
The shot at 0:44 has a windows reflecting on windows
@hsitz
@hsitz 4 жыл бұрын
The killer feature of chromebooks and chromeos is that they're now easily set up to run Linux alongside Chrome. You just flick a switch in on the settings window, and it installs a containerized version of Linux (default version is named Crostini). Dieter mentions that Android runs on Chromebooks, but the Linux on your chromebook is the killer feature for many. .I see that the Surface Pro X does actually support an ARM-native version of Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). WSL is not as flexible or well-integrated as Linux on chromeos, but it could be a good feature in Surface Pro X machines. I didn't hear Dieter talk about it at all, maybe I missed that.
@TheSchmukk
@TheSchmukk 4 жыл бұрын
Would this be a good buy if you could get it cheaper than the SP7? Main use would be for work/productivity etc.
@yours615
@yours615 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s ahead of its time. Finally, you headed to the right direction with web services for all thin client devices like the ARM-based. It’s really for the upcoming subscription-based DaaS markets, and currently the best you can have for Cloud DaaS/ VDI for business.
@amisudiptasen
@amisudiptasen 4 жыл бұрын
it feels like if this had run Lightroom properly, Dieter would have recommended it.
@nakdickson
@nakdickson 4 жыл бұрын
0:43 is that a glare or windows logo?
@nic_ccc3366
@nic_ccc3366 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love a smaller, Surface Go-sized version of this.
@DrRDW
@DrRDW 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I love my surface go, but this would be a desired upgrade.
@LeBeautiful
@LeBeautiful 4 жыл бұрын
Name a better duo than a 3:2 screen and a laptop portability
@johnnyirish9852
@johnnyirish9852 4 жыл бұрын
Just look at the hardware. this is not too expensive. Apple would sell this with 40% higher price. The review is a good idea, but can you tech journalists once praise Microsoft without distancing yourselves immediately? Other thing I wanted to mention: The absolute majority of users either does not do videoediting, or has already a powerful machine for this kind of jobs. Being able to do video editing should be an extra stretch for a device to get 11 out of 10 points, but it is treate as if it is a necessity or 3 points.
@masterkl16
@masterkl16 4 жыл бұрын
Dieter you just low-key sold me on the new Microsoft Edge browser. I had NO idea it had so many features and I canNOT wait to try it out.
@lykaios313
@lykaios313 4 жыл бұрын
Are you really buying this to run light room...? Honestly seems like the lower end of an average users concerns, unless we are all content creators out here.
@gurvaaz1703
@gurvaaz1703 4 жыл бұрын
Idk abt the us, but you can get a surface pro x bundle with the keyboard and pen at costco for 1,300$ CAD(abt 984$ in the US)
@frankiecicero9746
@frankiecicero9746 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know if I will be able to use Silverlight on the pro x?
@miguelagdf
@miguelagdf 4 жыл бұрын
I set up chrometana but it doesn't work. even having my chrome browser as default for windows, it still brings up an edge window and searches on bing :( any help?
@kafka6666
@kafka6666 4 жыл бұрын
Dieter.... How many people use light room? How common is your use case vs the general market?
@BankruptGreek
@BankruptGreek 4 жыл бұрын
I can't honestly take this guy seriously. Wtf does, "it takes too long to get started on Windows". What's a laptop to this guy? an everyday occurrence? The vast majority of people use a laptop for way more than a year, how bad could 10mim-20min be as opposed to 1min on a chrome book. Plus I feel like you can get on windows within a min or so while disabling all privacy and data requests. o and lightroom, such a useful app for the demographic of an ARM based notebook sized laptop/tablet.
@cldpt
@cldpt 4 жыл бұрын
Provisioning (that's the name of setting up devices for first use) is a pain. Especially on Windows 10 given you have to do this every 6 months due to "Windows-as-a-service" upgrades which are pretty much a reinstall-like wizard. Do you know how many times you have to set up a Chromebook or a tablet after an upgrade? None: they upgrade seamlessly. You do it the one time you buy it or factory reset it, then all it does is redex (recompile dynamic files) And the real problems with W10 provisioning are related to privacy and cloud accounts being WAY too obscure. Every single one of Windows's updates gets you a different flow, with one more setting to opt out from (or a harder time doing it) and new tricks to force you into logging with a Microsoft account vs Local. Granted, Google also nags you with cloud accounts but at least on those ecosystems (Android OR Chrome OS) there are clear benefits and everybody already does it. I am yet to find a super-duper important reason to use an MS account - even bitlocker cloud key storage or the freemium apps on their store aren't worth it (thank god). There aren't "killer features" for me. Then again, I don't use these devices in a corporate environment nor depend heavily on OneDrive.
@BankruptGreek
@BankruptGreek 4 жыл бұрын
@@cldpt when did your windows 10 reinstall itself due to an update, that has never happened to me and I had win10 on release. As for the rest they are of no importance to me but I can see your point.
@212helpdesk
@212helpdesk 4 жыл бұрын
Now they are selling an upgraded cpu, sq-2 i think its called. Please review. Ty
@AGIRobotics
@AGIRobotics 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft needs to make Windows 10 ARM that has native ARM compatibility. Once Windows goes ARM, the laptop/desktop industry can finally move on to ARM chips and get rid of the awful x86 monopoly.
@moozillamoo2109
@moozillamoo2109 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Edge is hugely improved. There is just no need for Chrome anymore (was a Chorme user).
@branpurn
@branpurn 4 жыл бұрын
Unfair comparison. Your Chromebook can't play Counterstrike or DOTA or World of Warcraft. Or Photoshop or Illustrator. Or a competent Office suite. etc, etc, etc.
@stanleybowman-hood6194
@stanleybowman-hood6194 4 жыл бұрын
Chrome book: mobile phone in a laptop Surface go/pro: laptop in a tablet
@sracer
@sracer 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very well considered perspective, thank you! But perhaps you might be a bit too conservative in how well the Surface Pro X could be a great chromebook. I have a ton of different devices and I'm a big chromebook fan. But it is very frustrating to own a Pixelbook and Pixel Pen because it is this > < close to being a great solution. CrOS support for the stylus is nearly non-existent. There's a single crucial Windows-only app that I need that I can't use on the Pixelbook... and neither CrossOver for Android nor WINE in the Linux container are adequate solutions for those one-off Windows apps. ...but with the Surface Pro X those issues go away. Yes, the Pro X raises different issues, but I think that the net result pushes in the Pro X's favor. I hadn't paid much attention to the Pro X, but this video has given me reason to dig deeper. thanks!
@rastamouse7861
@rastamouse7861 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I like how you were able to squeeze more functionality out of a Windows arm tablet. Which, you know, wasn't the case before. I hate my Surface RT... :(
@ChrisWong13
@ChrisWong13 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, about to return mine. Not that happy with the x86 app emulation performance in just a couple of key areas for me. Many pluses, but it's not the entire package just yet...
@iKatlego
@iKatlego 4 жыл бұрын
When are we getting the Mac Pro review?
@AntonKudin
@AntonKudin 4 жыл бұрын
relying on 3rd 4rth party plugins for beta apps that were made for other apps.. what could go wrong?
@alyx6427
@alyx6427 3 жыл бұрын
If you could run android apps then I would totally buy this
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 4 жыл бұрын
MS could've succeeded from collaboration with Nokia only if they had actually focused on expanding the ARM ecosystem.
@utbplay
@utbplay 4 жыл бұрын
Why are these ARM based devices still not supporting telephony? where is the dialer in Windows? They are LTE right?
@ddjalil
@ddjalil 4 жыл бұрын
There's an app for receiving text messages. It's mostly to get your carrier SMS and you cannot reply/send. You're correct there is no dialer.
@JCJW101
@JCJW101 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear someone else knows that 3:2 ratio is better for productivity than 16:9.
@vivekkaushik9508
@vivekkaushik9508 4 жыл бұрын
One Question - Can I use this laptop for programming like Android Studio or VSCode or something to edit code?
@rohitgupta7758
@rohitgupta7758 4 жыл бұрын
No arm does not work well with windows But it's improving will be good in two years
@mobbak
@mobbak 4 жыл бұрын
VSCode will get an official ARM release and there is an unofficial one, but extensions may not work.
@orbmiser8333
@orbmiser8333 4 жыл бұрын
Why the limit of Surface Pro X comparison as a Surface Pro 7 would fit the bill better? And agree it's more a niche product then a full laptop. As my Surface Pro 6 can be had at half the price without all the limitations mentioned. As the custom ARM SQ-1 is still to limiting. Waiting and more exciting to see a Surface Pro 8 with new Ryzen 4000 Apu laptop chip inside.
@jatinsinghal6380
@jatinsinghal6380 4 жыл бұрын
When Microsoft pays you after your review...
@lukaskonig8893
@lukaskonig8893 3 жыл бұрын
Is it better opinion instead of the ipad pro? I want to use a tablet for school
@deankaltsas
@deankaltsas 4 жыл бұрын
well, contrary to your advise, i purchased this device at a 600 discount. and i love it! i don;t do video or picture editing and work is just great! especially the T-Mobile sim with unlimited data for like $20 a month!
@mobbak
@mobbak 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT! From where did you get it? Who sell it for that price?
@deankaltsas
@deankaltsas 4 жыл бұрын
@@mobbak 450 discount and I also had a credit of 200. I think it's still at 3 or 400 discount for the 8ram and 256 HD on the Microsoft store
@gakwayadavid1558
@gakwayadavid1558 4 жыл бұрын
We need links to your background music Please
@chm2
@chm2 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Just downloaded it on my Galaxy Book2 that runs on Snapdragon. So far so good!
@supermanhills
@supermanhills 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone uses the Adobe suite of apps... That's not the killer. It's that it won't run any programme you throw at it, just some
@jaihind8490
@jaihind8490 4 жыл бұрын
fck
@baderal-mahmood6850
@baderal-mahmood6850 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you man??? We miss you!
@KidGloves2112
@KidGloves2112 4 жыл бұрын
What is the benefit to using Google as your default search engine instead of Bing?
@PTYC933
@PTYC933 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't windows do this before with those RT from sometime ago and then went to pentium gold, and I think Verge love the Go, lots of experimentation so far, and even ryzen as well, alas not the 4000 series, can't wait for 4800. So what they really needed is an arm laptop with chromium edge.
@wrongturn_w
@wrongturn_w 4 жыл бұрын
It's not by accident. Microsoft moved edge to chromium and bought github who built the electron framework (that builds apps on top of chromium) for that same reason. Next up, chromium based windows apps.
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 4 жыл бұрын
using the windows key to search google bing: master microsoft i don't feel so good.......
@saint.vnthony
@saint.vnthony 4 жыл бұрын
Do cintrix apps work on the surface x
@kipsmith6562
@kipsmith6562 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have Cortana ask what are me privacy settings preferences -- than have Google not ask.
@salahuddin1138
@salahuddin1138 4 жыл бұрын
Surface is not officially available in the Philippines.
@diezgp
@diezgp 4 жыл бұрын
Do regular viruses work on this computer? I think it emulates x86 so they should. Right?
@mini9503
@mini9503 3 жыл бұрын
Surface Pro X would be a great device for just $600 (including the keyboard and pen). A _real_ Google version of this the "Lenovo Duet 5 Chromebook" which is a 12" Detachable ARM Tablet jus like the Pro X, only costs $400 in total with all the accessories included.
@createx1751
@createx1751 4 жыл бұрын
4:14 Do people really complain about set up the computer the first time they use it -_-
@mobbak
@mobbak 4 жыл бұрын
Not me
@blaster915
@blaster915 4 жыл бұрын
2:44 bing wants to know your location 😂
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