Don't let your seat belts kill you! Improve the crash safety and survivability of your track car.

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Cliff's Garage

Cliff's Garage

2 жыл бұрын

Improving your ability to survive a crash needs a holistic approach. Just adding a racing harness or installing it wrong is a good way to end up like Dale Earnhardt ... as in dead from a relatively minor crash. Doing it right means adding at least three other things and probably four. Learn not only how to up your safety game, but why.
[6-point harness, installation, dangerous, roll cage, roll bar, shoulder slots, anti-submarine, ant-sub, anti-sub slot, racing bucket, harness bar, multi-point harness, HANS, head and neck restraint, Snell, helmet]

Пікірлер: 65
@andreasr6632
@andreasr6632 21 күн бұрын
Finally a proper informative all inclusive video on the topic . Many thanks 🙏🏻 those 10’ may prove life saving for the viewers!
@vetleforseth5660
@vetleforseth5660 Жыл бұрын
This video is killing many dreams, but might save many lives
@TurboHappyCar
@TurboHappyCar Жыл бұрын
This is good info. I have a full roll bar / seat / harness / HNR setup and what Cliff describes is the right way to do it. I would also stress that 4-point belts, unless specifically designed with anti-submarine features, are dangerous. I was at a track day where a person was killed due to submarining under the belts. (Chuckwalla in 2013.) Stay safe out there everyone! 👍
@trackdayguy
@trackdayguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to explain how safety is a whole set of items. Great stuff!
@christopherbose3461
@christopherbose3461 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cliff! Straight to the point and no BS, I appreciate that.
@DarthVader-eg9jm
@DarthVader-eg9jm Жыл бұрын
Cliff: I'm a trauma physician and although your anatomy was a little off, this was a great job and accurate for the primary causes of severe injury in a high speed impact. I race as well and it was a good reminder of why even beginner trackers needs to get proper cage, helmet and HANS. 2 thumbs up.
@Thepsychicstars
@Thepsychicstars Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you here! Due to past neck and severe arm/breast injury as a non racing regular driver being rear ended, my Osteopath is recommending at the min a 3 point harness. Question for you and Cliff: Would you have any insight on the best way for me to do this? I am looking at a mid size SUV like a RAV4 or a Rogue and curious your thoughts?
@Essaysinglemeye
@Essaysinglemeye 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the logic and science behind the matter being presented in such a direct and succinct manner.
@rileywillis9575
@rileywillis9575 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I'm getting an old sports car that predates safety features like airbags or collapsible steering columns, I was considering putting in a harness seat for added safety but it seems like it's better overall to keep the stock 3 point belt and seat unless I was willing to wear a helmet and HANS every time I go for a drive.
@maxbush3020
@maxbush3020 Жыл бұрын
so glad you posted this. I did not do the anti sub belt correct and would not know otherwise!
@GreyEyedHunter
@GreyEyedHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy Cliff Great video! It was not really what I was looking for (wanted to know how to make my 280z 'saver'), but stayed for the good info and good personality (: Much love from Germany Rain
@WrecklessEnterainment
@WrecklessEnterainment 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I was looking to upgrade the seats in my truck and was debating on harnesses or not and you cleared up everything I was wondering about them!
@winstonsmith8898
@winstonsmith8898 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Cliff, thanks.
@1wasinAlpha
@1wasinAlpha 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! PRO RACING GUIDE!!! Thank you!!!
@NeGRaDiCaLz
@NeGRaDiCaLz 8 ай бұрын
Great video. It’s really hard to find good content on safety like this
@MrBuckshot18
@MrBuckshot18 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. Just talked about this in my auto class
@FrankHood713
@FrankHood713 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you.
@michaeljohn1160
@michaeljohn1160 Жыл бұрын
Couple other items to add. Race seat with head blinders. Most of us run them in GT Cup class. Also side netting. Mostly right side, but we do both.
@lnascar7401
@lnascar7401 Ай бұрын
Thanks Learned A Ton
@touge_over_track1895
@touge_over_track1895 3 сағат бұрын
Basilar skull fractures are fatal almost every time crashing with a harness seat belt on is insanely dangerous with out the straps that attach to your helmet to keep your head from snapping forward. And I’m assuming no one with race bucket seats and harness ever is only driving slow…your hauling ass so an accident with a harness like that will be your last drive pretty much.
@derrickgates42
@derrickgates42 2 жыл бұрын
Killer information
@halfwaytobedlam3234
@halfwaytobedlam3234 Жыл бұрын
spent hours looking around the internet about harnesses and antisub belts, should've just watched your video and be done in 10 minutes!
@xaviersandrinedemay6396
@xaviersandrinedemay6396 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Aeneas137
@Aeneas137 Жыл бұрын
Cliff, would really appreciate it if you would share a video about how you hooked up your racing harness. in the tight quarters of the Cayman it's a bit of a challenge.
@carlohiomile
@carlohiomile 2 жыл бұрын
Im interested on if safety harnesses actually expire or is it a sales ploy. Why is that there is no expiration date on passenger car seat belts because passenger car crashes can be just as brutal as a race car crash.
@notblakebray
@notblakebray 2 жыл бұрын
Keep that ideology and win the Darwin Award
@jacobnewhart7802
@jacobnewhart7802 Жыл бұрын
Great thought so for the track safety harnesses it’s about having them inspected to verify safety and since inspection of a harness and they can be recertified up to I think 3 times. It’s not a sales ploy it’s about safety. Next a replacement hareness isn’t much more expensive then a recertification so most just replace it.
@starwrsbro2
@starwrsbro2 Жыл бұрын
they don’t really expire, it’s more about when the next certifications come out, leaving the older equipment “out of date”.
@flatsixer105
@flatsixer105 Жыл бұрын
Sir: you should be a college professor! Amazingly clear explanation.
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage Жыл бұрын
It's funny you should say that, because I was!
@MetalShinS0lid
@MetalShinS0lid 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your very clear explanation, I had a few misconceptions about racing harnesses, and also you raised my awareness of risks I had not thought about. Simply put, harnesses are part of complete package of safety mods and should not be installed as a standalone mod.
@saulrubio7047
@saulrubio7047 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ginasolis3857
@ginasolis3857 Жыл бұрын
I have an older single cab pickup. She's kinda slow so definitely not using it on a track but I'd really like a 4 pt harness cuz my 3 pt seatbelt is way too uncomfortable. Would that still be safe considering I have a bench seat and can get a decent angle my mounting it to the wall right behind me?
@big____rich4560
@big____rich4560 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video sir, great job 👍
@origamicrane685
@origamicrane685 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. What helmet do you prefer?
@NovaMad2010
@NovaMad2010 4 ай бұрын
The harness angle on the shoulder straps max is 45 degrees according to Motorsport UK and I believe the FIA, which I have mine to the floor at 42 degrees, so you can run them to the floor but be very careful on the angle Another point is if the roof is coming down, you're not ducking to get out of the way, iv been upside down twice, once on a rally and once in my road car, personally you wont know if that roof is coming down nor can you get yourself out if the way due to the G's you are experiencing
@justindickinson4269
@justindickinson4269 Жыл бұрын
With owning a factory five GTM (Tubular chassis car) would you recommend a 3 point belt of a 4 point harness for driving on the road? I don’t plan to wear a helmet, have an inch between my head and the roof. Very close to the side window as well. No airbags present.
@Thepsychicstars
@Thepsychicstars Жыл бұрын
Hi Cliff! I had posted a response to another poster’s question, but thought I’d message here too! I was in a few accidents caused by distracted drivers and my doctor says my neck, chest, shoulders were severely injured due to the normal seatbelts in cars, and recommends some kind of harness where there are 2 shoulder straps. Fast forward and I’m getting a new vehicle and thinking about a RAV4 or a Rogue and curious your thoughts? I don’t race, this wouldn’t be heavily used, but want my neck and body to be supported. Also, I am 5’7 and about 240 lbs so I need something that’s comfy where I can also check my blindspots (I would actually wear a helmet and the neck apparatus but not sure how feasible this is for ability to move, plus anything too heavy on my head would be bad for my neck. Would love to know if I can consult with you? Thank you!!!
@stephendumore4363
@stephendumore4363 9 ай бұрын
Honestly the stock 3 point seat belt is probably going to be your best bet. A harness is going to make checking blind spots difficult since they hold you in tight. Plus, I doubt that anyone makes harness/roll bars for the RAV4 or Rogue so you would have to have something custom made.
@Anxietye
@Anxietye Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in installing a racing harness in my daily driver and track car as well. But I don’t want my beck to break. The whole earnheart thing i remember from when I was a kid is why I am not considering it. I don’t wanna have to wear a HANS device and helmet while driving around daily. So do I keep the seatbelt for riding the streets. Just say fuck it and wear the harness ? What’s the answer???
@MegaBabyRawr
@MegaBabyRawr 6 ай бұрын
Would it be safe to use a 6 point harness + helmet + HANS with a steering wheel with an airbag?
@LamerskiGamer
@LamerskiGamer 5 ай бұрын
Hi, what about Schroth ASM 4 point belts? Btw. great video, thanks!
@oliverwan1520
@oliverwan1520 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work. Super useful info. I will thank you with a like and subscribe
@j-forceyizzle9989
@j-forceyizzle9989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cliff. What's your street configuration? Half cage, using 3pt factory belt or harness? I'm assuming no helmet or HANS for street driving. Harness with no HANS = Basal skull fracture?
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage Жыл бұрын
I have both the original 3-point and the 6-point installed. I use the 3-point for street driving.
@teddyruxpin3811
@teddyruxpin3811 Жыл бұрын
On my Mclaren 600LT, why does my 6 point harness say "For track use only"? If the harness is not safe enough for the street, why should I use it on the track?
@MilesBodzin
@MilesBodzin Жыл бұрын
When using the harness and locking your body to the seat, your neck will have great injury from an impact. Unless you also have a helmet and HANS device.
@teddyruxpin3811
@teddyruxpin3811 Жыл бұрын
@MilesBodzin yup, I did some reading and I agree. I'm not going to use the harness anymore
@donrob4058
@donrob4058 9 ай бұрын
Ima go.
@bradleyabraham6231
@bradleyabraham6231 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather have a harness than a lap belt to be honest Even if I don’t have a role cage if I ever crash the lap belt ain’t gonna do much.
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage Жыл бұрын
I agree, only a lap belt is flat-out dangerous. But given a choice between a 3-point/airbags and only a multipoint harness, I'd choose the prior because of the reasons I gave in the video.
@frederickcook87
@frederickcook87 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, what model helmet is that?
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
It's called a Conquer Snell SA2020 Approved Open Face Auto Racing Helmet, I don't think it has an actual model number. The manufacturer's direct outlet is at roadbikeoutlet.com/collections/sa2020
@frederickcook87
@frederickcook87 2 жыл бұрын
@@CliffsGarage thanks 👍🏾
@Stolencamaro
@Stolencamaro 3 ай бұрын
So i have 62 impala no seatbelts and now im better off leaving ot without it 🤦
@CliffsGarage
@CliffsGarage 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how you could so completely misunderstand what's presented in this video, but I'm guessing you just decided to comment without actually watching the video. Or even reading the title.
@carlohiomile
@carlohiomile 2 жыл бұрын
Are those I bolts on you cage instead of welded tabs?
@carlohiomile
@carlohiomile 2 жыл бұрын
I actually cant remember. Ill have to look. I have too many toys 😂😂😂😂Why do you ask?
@Aeneas137
@Aeneas137 Жыл бұрын
@@carlohiomile wtf.... did you just answer your own question? or are you schizophrenic?
@Dabber422
@Dabber422 Жыл бұрын
Harness killed my buddy. More car guys/girls need to research this...
@DEATHWISHVQ
@DEATHWISHVQ Жыл бұрын
Damn man what went wrong? I saw where he explained if mounted too low it can crush your shoulders downward. He says the harness should not be more than 10 degrees under your shoulder but wouldn’t this still cause your body to go forward which would result in shoulder injury still. I’m doing research right now for long term benefits.
@Dabber422
@Dabber422 Жыл бұрын
@@DEATHWISHVQ My friend flew out the window in his z06. Guess the Harness weren't installed properly...
@jasiekdrift
@jasiekdrift 9 ай бұрын
Nice video, but u should not use foldable seat with 6 point belts, thats also fatal in case of a crash.
@secnbc
@secnbc Жыл бұрын
I have a bench in my car. What kind of restraint should I have?
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