I mean I liked it... ko-fi.com/worm... / wormshole / wormshole #Joker
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@shuckacuck2 жыл бұрын
"If you want people to honor the social contract they have to benefit from it at least a little, don't they?" That's a brilliant quote.
@bplup64193 жыл бұрын
The panic and pearl clutching before this movie was really weird to say the least. Honestly, it felt like the media WANTED violence.
@maxhammer40672 жыл бұрын
The media know the white working class have lives and experiences like joker, and it scares them because it kills there narrative of stuff like white privage falls apart. They know the angry will wake up but I don't think the wake up alarm will be a movie. It will just be time as in you can't sleep forever unless you are in a coma
@michaeldiekmann64942 жыл бұрын
@@maxhammer4067 Stop sniffing your own farts. Its about views, clicks and money. Nothing more.
@maxhammer40672 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiekmann6494 It Is and it is not, the media were crying for a reason.
@michaeldiekmann64942 жыл бұрын
@@maxhammer4067 Reason called money
@syglee43403 жыл бұрын
some of your videos are criminally slept on
@StudioMod3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@m.malina6797 Жыл бұрын
Sure seems like the moment Arthur crawls into the fridge (with an old school locking door mind you), is the moment things start turning around and he becomes the Joker. Always wondered if Arthur offed himself and the last half is something akin to the afterlife...
@acidstrummer3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The gun is almost its own character! I really loved that. I think most people (especially Americans) have a serious under-appreciation for how destructive a gun can be.
@shedjddjdj2010 Жыл бұрын
I Mean its kind of a chickens and the egg situation. anybody can have a gun, so by definition I am in danger of being shot. Therefore I need a gun to defend myself from everyone else with a gun. Also we do not trust our government. I do not want the government to have guns and I don't. Plus have you ever shot a gun it is so much fun. Like shooting birds is the best.
@johnny1967752 жыл бұрын
"If you want people to honor the social contract, they have to benefit from it, at least a little; don't they?" Indeed. In legal circles, this is called 'consideration' and a contract is void and invalid without it.
@TheRManProds3 жыл бұрын
JOKER WAS ONE OF THE BEST FILMS OF 2019!
@deninpaul75093 жыл бұрын
SAY IT LOUDERRRR
@TheRManProds3 жыл бұрын
@@deninpaul7509 YES!!!!!!!!!!
@TheRManProds3 жыл бұрын
@@deninpaul7509 HELL YEAH!!!!
@trekkiedave79103 жыл бұрын
YES! It was!!
@StudioMod3 жыл бұрын
I wanted it to not exist, personally. Total hogwash combination of 40 different narratives, all of which were semi misbegotten and poorly done.
@carsoncarr-busyframes6192 жыл бұрын
"doesn't excuse but explains" ..pretty universal and that's why I've watched 3 times so far
@ryankeefe62223 жыл бұрын
I think if there’s anything that this movie teaches us is to be kind to those who are different or that are struggling because all it might take is “one bad day”
@TheRManProds3 жыл бұрын
YUP ALL IT TAKES IS ONE BAD DAY!
@jessesmith45413 жыл бұрын
So the motivation for kindness is self-preservation? Kindness is rendered mute when there's no repercussions for cruelty?
@ryankeefe62223 жыл бұрын
@@jessesmith4541 I meant overall be kind
@jessesmith45413 жыл бұрын
@@ryankeefe6222 Understood. My reply was really just me thinking to myself out loud, asking myself the question, questioning my own motivation. Are my acts of kindness really selfless concern for the well-being of others or just an insurance policy to keep me safe. That's why I enjoy these videos. They lead me to ask myself deeper questions.
@ScrummlyWummly Жыл бұрын
"the worst part about being mentally ill is that everyone expects you to act like you're not" is still the realest shit i ever heard
@johanneschimpo12263 жыл бұрын
I like that you used the bathroom dance track...my fave piece of music from the movie....and such a good point about the Oscars elite benefiting from scenes of the gen pop struggle
@fox97693 жыл бұрын
It's the complete opposite. It shows that people are vulnerable and going through so much of their own problems and demons. If anything it shows us to be kind to everybody, because a small act of kindness could help them from the edge of a breakdown.
@MaelstromEnergy3 жыл бұрын
While there is that aspect, I think the bigger point is societal. We all have "bad days". In a society as rich as ours, we have the resources to equip most individuals with the tools they need to not snap during their bad day. There were hundreds/thousands of interventions that could have happened before the movie started that would have stopped Authur from ever becoming Joker even if he had his bad day.
@michaeldiekmann64942 жыл бұрын
Thats why the Joker usually has the traits of a violent self entertaining psychopath. You cant cure a psychopath, you cant teach them to feel empathy.
@TriColoredTiger Жыл бұрын
Where did the money go for health? Industrial military complex. Why poor/rich? Because you can only have rich if you have poor. Brilliant and striking analysis. Thank you.
@Jacko19623 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually gave Joker a chance. I have seen so many youtube essayists just outright dismiss it and point blank say "Its about nothing. There is nothing to say about it", or "Its wide as ocean but deep as a puddle". I love both Joker and Parasite and I think they are the 2 best movies of 2019, and I am quite frankly sick how only one is being accepted by the internet as this great message of how capitalism fucks the poor, while the other is thrown in the trashcan as if it ALSO doesnt have the same message. Overall, great video
@gwenlovesmovies3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason Parasite is more accepted than Joker, is that it (imo) handles the subject with more grace and nuance. And it comes from a filmmaker who has been taking topics like this seriously his entire career and not just making offensive, shallow jokes of it a few years prior. So you can even feel with movie is being more honest. But.... Joker is the more significant movie. Because pop culture gave it that boost that a movie like Parasite just can't get.
@Jacko19623 жыл бұрын
@@gwenlovesmovies hmm, you are right there. Bong Joon-ho made movies with leftist messages from the start of his career. Hopefully Joker gave Todd Philips the incentive to make more movies like that and less movies like....whatever the hell Hangover 2 and 3 were
@nope56572 жыл бұрын
@@Jacko1962 "Grace and nuance." Why do themes as prescient and immediate as this need the mask of artistic "grace" to be meaningful and impactful?
@arthurbynum3 жыл бұрын
If you keep talking spicy like this, THEM PEOPLE GONE COME GET YOU. Chill Out 🤣. Your combination of intelligence and self awareness is chef's kiss good sir. Thank you!
@acidstrummer3 жыл бұрын
I liked it. I mean, I haven't watched any of the new MCU movies, I think the last superhero film I saw was Dark Knight Rises. I only watched Joker once but I'd happily watch it again. I know I'm babbling but comments are engagement etc.
@slumdog432 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite video essays! really fucking good job
@Rock4UNow3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very well broken down.
@Countgreenhorn2 жыл бұрын
6:48 people with neurodivergence especially autism often like to be small cramped spaces because it makes them feel like the loud chaotic world around them is blocked out at least for a moment. such people will oftentimes go into closets for a sense of relief
@johnny1967752 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this, but got extremely distracted when you referenced 'Charlie Chaplin' singing "smile," when I could swear I am hearing Jimmy Durante singing in the background... I am not sure that I recall Charlie Chaplin being a singer at all, whereas it seems to me that I can recall that "Smile" was a Jimmy Durante classic... I could be wrong. I haven't looked it up to be sure; but I think that may be a mistake.
@chujiwu682 жыл бұрын
😀 It is Jimmy Durante.
@johnny1967752 жыл бұрын
@@chujiwu68 Thank you kindly for that confirmation.
@TheRealFrekenDeal Жыл бұрын
My dad had a bootleg link lmaooo
@publican90 Жыл бұрын
There is also the aspect of people mapping their own political beliefs onto random acts of violence When Arthur kills the Wall Street guys he has no motivation other than they’ve hurt him, but remember he was only given the gun after he was attacked by a group of poor black teenagers. Imagine for a moment that those two assaults happened in reverse so he had the gun when the black teenagers attacked him. Arthur is riding a wave to ‘fame, Fortune, and power’ he’s willing to be seen as the voice of the downtrodden proletariat but in the alternate universe where he had the gun when the black teens assaulted him he would be just as willing to be the symbol of some racist ultra-right wing ‘taking it back from degeneracy’ movement. The ideology is trivial to him as long as he gets to be on top which to me seems more like fascism than anyone else in the story
@bascal1332 жыл бұрын
Its not really fair to compare Joker and Parasites societal impact based on the costumes is it? What specific recognizable costume was in Parasite? Parasite is a one off movie joker is a character that's been popular for 50 years. People also used Squid Game imagery to protest because it is very iconic and immediately recognizable.
@kryptonicification3 жыл бұрын
My man! This is some seriously great shit. Your channel deserves so much more attention! Keep up the good work!
@Kuudere-Kun3 жыл бұрын
I really think you would enjoy some Ikuhara Anime, Utena, Penguindrum, YuriKuma and Sarazanmai all touch on the same themes you seem to like. Just with a different aesthetic then gory realism.
@TheWormsHole3 жыл бұрын
I will check those out. Been looking to get back into anime again.
@Kuudere-Kun3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole So have seen some Anime already? What are your favorites?
@TheWormsHole3 жыл бұрын
@@Kuudere-Kun Kinda hard to say off the top of my head, but I might do a video about this before too long.
@Kuudere-Kun3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole Awesome
@lisetteeliseparis70703 жыл бұрын
Subscribing. Great production values, good essay.
@OwlEye2010Ай бұрын
*Todd Phillips:* Hates woke culture. *Also Todd Phillips:* Makes a movie that criticizes the elites, how mentally ill people are treated and how broken societies create their own monsters. You know, woke things?
@Fenris303 жыл бұрын
Um... That's not the same Doctor.
@normdeplume40823 жыл бұрын
That's the joke...
@millhousemillard21403 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great new sub
@homerdripson4063 жыл бұрын
Scorsese was right
@captassassin56803 жыл бұрын
@1:28 The fact that you felt you had to put a disclaimer in for your “Salami” comment kinda proves the existence of the “Woke Movement”.
@TheWormsHole3 жыл бұрын
The Italian thing is a meme. And of course social change is a real thing, but Jesus fucking Christ is it not called "the woke movement." Bill Burr wants to be controversial so bad it comes off of him in waves. There's practically a pungency to it. But he doesn't understand any of this shit enough to make any substantial criticism beyond your by-the-numbers pot-shots at millennial progressive jargon.
@tf2pyro5173 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole your misunderstanding bill he's just a dude who's not ashamed of his beliefs and isn't afraid to share the with the world unlike you who deletes videos when they start getting to many dislikes your just a coward and bill isn't that's why you dont like him
@TheWormsHole3 жыл бұрын
@@tf2pyro517 I've taken videos down because their moment has passed, and moved old videos to unlisted for my Patrons, but disliking a video still boosts my engagement. I honestly don't get this mentality people have where they act like being ratioed 'hurts you' in some way. As for Burr, the dude came out at the Grammys like "How many feminists are going nuts at home over this cis white male reading all these names out!" Like, no dude, he's trying too hard. That's one step up from Bill Maher shrieking at his audience when they don't laugh.
@tf2pyro5173 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole the funny thing is that they do act like that just go on twitter for 5 seconds you'll see shit like that every where and as for bill he is one of the most accomplished comedians ever you don't have to like them but it's undeniable he always gets a laugh so I don't know where this whole "shriek at his audience until he gets a laugh" thing comes from
@amcc6662 жыл бұрын
What did the bill burr slide say? I couldn’t get a frame
@jacobadam68042 жыл бұрын
Cringe. He hates Bill Burr because he’s not an ultra leftist and tells shit like it is.
@amcc6662 жыл бұрын
@@jacobadam6804 oops
@jessemeehan81973 жыл бұрын
24:28 bruh that’s a different therapist, low key racist
@zachrobertson6843 жыл бұрын
24:50. Pay attention/listen.
@muttipi Жыл бұрын
yes he said that lol
@nocheknight83033 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, man
@Konform2zoidberg3 жыл бұрын
I definitely did not identify with this film for all the wrong reasons and definitely did Not DID NOT....completely ignore the context and even the parts where he said he had nothing to do with anti capitalism or pro worker sentiments and just completely personalized this whole thing
@samwheale3 жыл бұрын
wow you crush. thanks
@jonlacumba66292 жыл бұрын
el kali iuga
@cynthiafritze74183 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie. Joker was my hero when I left the theater
@TheRManProds3 жыл бұрын
JOKER WAS GOOD!!!!!!!!!
@happyraccoon12 жыл бұрын
Really like the videos and analysis. Agree with your analysis but still didn't like the movie that much. Feel like the movie spelled out its message to the audience specially in the part where he was telling the last joke on the show. Like the movie spends its entirety showing us "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society who abandons him and treats him like trash?" and then for the joker to say it out loud, feels cheap, like we wouldn't get the message otherwise.
@jerrym12183 жыл бұрын
This is why I respect Batman as a character and is my favorite DC hero. The man had the worst thing happen to him as a kid, and depending on what universe he is in or what writer is handling him, he could easily become the Batman who laughs at any turn with all the madness around him, yet he stays true to his promise of never killing criminals and does legit try to help them. Sadly though, Batman is in a horrible cycle of never ending violence in Gotham and can’t save it no matter how hard he tries, but he never gives up. He keeps on fighting though, and keeps at it.
@EarthboundinAdrock2 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the same video? Lol
@burtbiggum4993 жыл бұрын
The left and right align more than you might think
@TheWormsHole3 жыл бұрын
The left and the the right are aligned on nothing because the right is defined entirely by its opposition to leftward political mobility.
@angryengine96162 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole what an American perspective.
@jacobadam68042 жыл бұрын
@@angryengine9616 Man don’t try to talk sense to far leftists. Everything is about them. I love this dudes videos but he buys too much into the twitter fueled ultra-progressive shit.
@eliaschristo84922 жыл бұрын
@@TheWormsHole thank you- absolutely right. If you think the left and right are the same you are politically illiterate
@eliaschristo84922 жыл бұрын
I think you mean workers are more aligned than we think
@StudioMod3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. That said, I think the movie was completely horrible because it was unreal and unconvincing by choice of bad acting by almost every side character (including deniro) and the scenes themselves (regardless of their tasteful and almost asmr like quality) felt like a push or shove delibrately in a direction that I couldn't relate to or even appreciate from a character perspective because his character is a human being I would completely disregard. As someone with several mental and physical illness, I don't feel his character represents actual mental illness for its scope whatsoever. I felt like the movie itself did exactly what you said his character in the fridge scene represents: a shallow use of a mentally ill character to drive a point. And to use Joker to do that was also deliberate. They could have made 2 separate movies by choice of integrity that would have been more effective in my opinion: an original movie cutting all the pointless ties to Batman and replacing all of that with believable mental illness and acting, and an actual movie about the batman character and how mental illness, etc can be used to make his origin story more interesting (rather than being a mock social-commentary on a handful of shallowly observed behaviors). I made a meme video reviewing this on a new series I'm calling Last Critic Standing (it's not series like this whatsoever). I'm also doing a top 9 series. I'd be really interested in maybe working with you on one of those on the off chance we can agree on a movie we love or hate. However the critic one is strictly humorous, so maybe you'll find a breath of fresh air there from what you're used to writing for these videos. Regardless, love the videos.
@gmt5003 жыл бұрын
Representative equality in works of fantasy is a fools errand. The burden lies with the objectifier not the work. But I liked your video.
@ConsistentCed9 ай бұрын
It all sounds good, and I respect your work, but you liberals always and forever leave out the most important reason behind criminals. Choice. We have choices. Im not coming from a sheltered place. Im black, my mom was abusive, my dad was a crackhead. I had EVERY reason to fail. I CHOSE not to. Aurther Fleck's story is sad, for sure. But his experience did not touch his eternal possession, choice. The environment did NOT make Aurthur Fleck. Aurthur Fleck made Aurthur Fleck, through choice. He chose to become the Joker. Stop acting like criminals are the victim.
@ConsistentCed9 ай бұрын
And miss me with the mental illness aspect. He was broken, but millions of mentally troubled people dont commit crimes BECUASE of their mental illness. Mentally healthy people commit crimes. The crux is choice. We all have a choice.
@kat85593 жыл бұрын
THE WOKE MOVEMENT
@jacobmallia71633 жыл бұрын
A real thing
@jacobmallia71633 жыл бұрын
Wow you made fun of trump how original
@duncanmercer94293 жыл бұрын
glad this was your takeaway from a 30 minute joker analysis
@jacobmallia71633 жыл бұрын
@@duncanmercer9429 thanks for the comment
@eliaschristo84922 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely more original to blindly idolize a figurehead and see any criticism of them as an insult to you personally
@mazzlogic3 жыл бұрын
You seem a little indifferent to violent revolution. Perhaps even supportive?