The EM2 & TEC-9 Are BROKEN in Cold War...

[@rockbolton8173]

They (Activision/Treyarch) know what they're doing. Release broken guns so people are encouraged to buy tiers, then nerf it once everyone has it.

[@fifteen8850]

Lol sure bud, can’t say the same for the c58

[@daegaskins3340]

yup. content creators need to stand up for everyone. cod strike.

[@kenrhyne8672]

Agreed

[@Jamal993y]

im not even using the em2 or tec9 im just using the carv2. and why do i feel like no one has been using or talking about the carv

[@SlayerUnchained]

Facts

[@Tom-iv6kh]

Love when ace titles a video like this coz you know it ain’t gonna be clickbait and shits actually serious

[@muhsin8111]

In his April's Fools video, he said the Milano was meta but it actually became the meta many weeks later

[@archiep6661]

When ace put an ellipsis in the title you know shit’s real

[@humilitysavestheworld118]

Right!! A real person!

[@killa_treez]

Exactly, I read the title and was like "what?" Then he tossed up his disclaimer and I felt all was right in the universe again.

[@afr0plays342]

The red screen is funny

[@Vespux]

Are we really surprised at this point though? They'll get their money for people buying tier skips and then nerf them in two or three weeks.

[@Macintosh007]

This also encourages people to play the game more to level up the guns while they are broken. It feels like this was all intentional.

[@2911oscar]

it hasn't happened before in cold war except maybe the mac10 and lc10, rest of the dlc weapons are average at best

[@ianday5604]

I used no tier skips. I earned the EM2, to have it turned into substandard Trash would very much Annoy me.

[@fifteen8850]

Sounds like a reach ngl

[@oscarchang486]

@@fifteen8850 not really. A company's goal is always to make profit. This seems like one shitty way of doing it tho

[@brendannelson6385]

Treyarch:” we’ve heard the complaints and we agree the em2 is stronger than anticipated. To be bringing it in line with other assault rifles, we will be reducing the damage to 22, increasing horizontal and vertical recoil by 27% each, and removing the task force barrel”

[@gimmer6014]

Sounds reasonable. How about a nerf to the magnum? Heard its pretty overpowered.

[@lucky_-1y]

@@gimmer6014 i think if they completely destroy the recoil with the Task Force barrel while also making that reduce range instead of increase would be nice

[@reversible8740]

Is this sarcastic?

[@cjisslime]

Bringing the damage to 22 would be one of the lowest damages in the game, and with its fire rate.. heh

[@jeremyboan2621]

Good comment. Some would even say it’s nasty!

[@jimhalpert2798]

They shouldn’t just nerf the damage of full auto tec-9. Nerf it’s range too.

[@randomcomment1105]

Even if you use the quickest ADS attachments for the Tundra sniper, this pistol lasers you in 1/3 of the time it takes to zoom in. You're literally 1/3 into the ADS when getting killed. I'm so glad I uninstalled this garbage game. Modern Warfare 2019 was the day that CoD repurposed its soul to cater noobs.

[@DamBaker95]

I literally got sniped a couple times by a tec-9 lol

[@jayjay1343]

@@randomcomment1105 I’m pretty sure that statement goes with both games

[@helljumper115]

How do people turn it to automatic fire? Mines is stuck on single fire

[@rajvirmanku1216]

@@helljumper115 under the muzzle attachments you need to equip the full auto repeater

[@TheReversedCOD]

the tec-9 is absolutely crazy, also in hardcore modes it one-shots at every range. But even in Core game modes you can outgun snipers long range, its completely broken :D

[@spidi500]

Stop playing the game or activision will keep milking it.

[@TheReversedCOD]

@@taalibxo most smgs are not unless you‘re using the task force barrel

[@nfamus540]

Yesterday I got absolutely clapped so fast I was sure I had been quick scoped by some god tier player, then I watched the kill cam and it was a full auto Tec 9. That thing kills so fast it feels like you've been sniped.

[@Steezealways]

What’s the point of adding burst fire and semi auto I don’t understand it’s like they just threw it in to have something different and called it a day

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

When i read that the task force barrel increased the EM2's damage to 51 i was wtfing. I also find it funny how the tec9's burst fire muzzle attachment makes the ksp obsolete in every way, and after that, the full auto attachment makes every gun obsolete. They did this on purpose. Why else would both guns be so blatantly overpowered.

[@arturoperez3826]

I was WAITING for this video! They’re both 3 shots in their first drop off and the EM2 you can build that for up to 70M lol. Got them both dark matter pretty easily ESPECIALLY the EM2

[@spidi500]

Don't get shit Dark Matter, don't even bother with the game, CAN WE PLEASE SEND A MESSAGE? DON'T FUCKING PLAY THESE TRASH GAMES OR THEY ARE GONNA CONTINUE MILKING YOUR ASS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Why do people NOT realise this, you people are EATING UP everything they give you, putting time in a half-assed game after all the shit they're doing.

[@natypes1]

Jesus go outside every once in a while lol

[@damnedisraeli9383]

People like you who make the game i enjoyable

[@Hidden237]

I stopped playing this game recently and man it feels good!

[@FN_Krynthesis]

*aCtIvIsIoN*

[@olemangrandpa9566]

Agreed the EM2 feels too good. Not sure on my math, but dropping the damage to 42 should bring it in line for 2-1, and 45 with Task Force for 1-2.

[@MrKing-he3eo]

It has a 1.25 headshot multiplier. Your first one is accurate but the 2nd isn't. I think 48 should be the task force barrel and the base should be 45.

[@olemangrandpa9566]

@@MrKing-he3eo Ah, I wondered. Thank you! Not on that committee though, so...

[@MrKing-he3eo]

@@olemangrandpa9566 Everyone makes mistakes don't worry about it.

[@spandel100]

It needs to compete with SMGs...the fire rate is very slow so needs to have higher damage.

[@MrKing-he3eo]

@@spandel100 Its an ar for a reason. Its not supposed to dominate up close.

[@Tero133]

I've never seen lobbies where the entire team only uses one gun until now.

[@blackstone1a]

The EM2 let’s my trash ass consistently top frag, imo a recoil nerf would be great for it, the Kek-9 needs to get hit with a fucking sledgehammer though, although that’s mostly for it’s burst fire/automatic modifications.

[@SkunkyBrew]

Kek haha

[@duyducluu6821]

“The Kek-9, the Tec-9, or the Rek-9” - inNotorious

[@LV_daWEED]

So make it useless and then everyone goes back to the LC10 🙄 get over it and just use it

[@Ccubed92]

I was about to say this cant be warzone. These guns are well balanced

[@b_f_d_d]

Exactly but in cold war they're broken

[@MMchikito]

The EM2 aint balanced fam

[@Nucleofission]

@@MMchikito Hold on, just let pull up my scope on the EM2. What's that it has been 10 minutes already and I'm dead?

[@eddieoconnor7295]

205 Brecci was truly broken

[@sammy_1178]

@@Nucleofission that's only the ground loot version doe

[@pepino-cosmico]

I've been waiting for this video since the season started. In the very first game I played I got instantly deleted by the TEC-9 and thought I was playing hardcore but... I wasn't. Now I'm using it too, already unlocked gold for it in MP and 80% of players I kill with it insult me in the deathcomms.

[@oranghue6866]

The M16 is the only gun that keeps these weapons in check. That’s because it’s TTK is faster. (M16 TTK: 132ms)

[@muteblood]

Attachments because if i get dropshot again ima use the m16

[@oranghue6866]

@@muteblood There are so many effective attachments to use for the M16 that Even I can’t think of one. But I highly recommend using any barrel that increases *fire rate*, because your TTK will now be 100ms. Particularly use the one that increases *Fire Rate* and *Damage*.

[@muteblood]

@@oranghue6866 bet ima go clap some tec 9 tryhards

[@oranghue6866]

@@muteblood BEWARE, it’s takes some practice to use the M16, since it is a burst-fire rifle

[@muteblood]

@@oranghue6866 thanks for the heads up

[@frankwoods1574]

Em2: I just have a good gaming chair 🪑

[@TheRageLivesOn]

literally every game i play goes exactly the same now. dudes with no left thumbstick sitting in the back mapping me with the EM2, and kids cracked up on 4 scoops of gfuel sliding and jumping around like it’s a jetpack cod destroying me instantly with the tec9

[@chucknorris6640]

This reminds me of the MW2 UMP 45 or the MW3 MP7

[@rpaustex]

Dude, I shredded MW3 with that MP7 for the whole year, Lmao!

[@userpcivan]

They could actually realise UMP45 haha just kidding we have copy KSP45 sadly.

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

The tek9 is so good up close. It even beats out the akimbo amps 😂😂

[@TheMaxirino]

Is there an excel sheet with TTKS for all guns?

[@sunwooooooo]

Welp. Can confirm with the Tec-9. 1.1 KD player went 54-12 with a 17ish streak before engagement based match making kicked in

[@ulyssesthedm]

Hey Ace, you should talk about how terrible the shotgun pistol secondary is next. It is in an awful state right now, very few attachments, dragons breath broken in akimbo to where it does not work, and only 6 rounds in the reserve allowed at any given time in MP.

[@alessandrocoppola8250]

I like small little periods when guns are op. Feels like it's not happened too much this year but I always enjoy a week or 2 of everyone using the crazy new weapon

[@HamoodyDarbaDoody]

2 years later. Still as broken as it ever was. Please unfuck this game everyone uses tec9

[@iKayorei]

Right. Swear to god every sweaty MLG kid is hard abusing this gun, it should’ve never had a full auto option

[@RajeevHiralal]

Great work Ace; even though you’re kinda fed up with the game mainly due to the hacking (in the best state; Warzone was so enjoyable), you still continue to produce quality videos!! You always include the extra effort, add additional value to your vids compared to so many other youtubers (same as with JGOD). Let’s hope time goes fast and we get a great improvement with Vanguard. Cheers from The Netherlands!

[@-Green1]

You can't trust what he says for warzone cause he played 2 rounds. GTFOH. He's gonna have to change his name. The Cod Whimper.

[@RajeevHiralal]

@@-Green1 can’t blaim Ace; Verdansk is not the same with so many hackers / fishy moments. The whining and disappointment is mainly there since Warzone was such a joy in its prime (when the weapon balance was right and cheaters were hardly present)! All main mechanics really work well. But it’s just unplayable nowadays (when you are finally in a good game / on a good run, then late game you get killed by a hacker; such frustration). Many players feel this way. My mates only want to play Rebirth since it is less frustrating (you don’t waste 25-30 minutes of hacker bullshit per good game). We used to get a Win every week and on good weeks evenings even multiple. But that’s no longer possible. Activision really let a great Warzone product slip out of there hands… they should have done a better job with the anti-cheat system AND policy. Let’s pray they can redeem themselves with Vanguard. I just don’t like Apex or even Battlefield; CoD is my game…

[@ToneZoneTC]

I was wondering why I was dying so fast it like I didn’t even stand a change in certain engagements

[@olabodowabolothethird7980]

They heard the season 4 guns were weak so they decided to make these ones broken

[@capthitmarkah4902]

Broken? Here comes the marshals...

[@hanzossonic7100]

I just recently used the em2 with the death touch blueprint and I preformed better than I ever have. That just goes to show how little skill it takes to get kills with the EM2. The gun is unbalanced and needs a nerf.

[@hanzossonic7100]

This was in multiplayer

[@Cow_Tipper_629]

The em2 is baller in snd ngl. Being able to free up an attachment slot for a sight is very nice.

[@Lowlevelowl23]

Ace, does the EM2 struggle with ADS and Sprint-out times like the C58 did?

[@jpayne3616]

After all these grinds to rank these weapons up I just don't have the patience to rank this or any other weapon up. It's takes too damn long

[@pelassofduty4665]

Absolutely OP. It's close to the time of the FR 5.56 with the underbarrel

[@shadie1624]

My only worry if the EM2 gets a nerf it just ends up like the C58 and to that I say why use that when the AK47 takes up to 4 shots to kill as well and shoots faster? I say at least find a way to make it a 3 shot kill so long as 1 shot hits the head.

[@FinalQueue007]

When i used the EM2 at first, i for some reason thought it was single fire (no clue why). Yet i was doing good with single fire so didnt think much of it until i was messing with it in zombies

[@IanNuke]

The em2 with the task force barrel is pretty much the m60, but without the sledgehammer to the balls of it's handling the m60 gets for being an lmg.

[@HeartInLight]

Not only are these guns busted, but iv seen the range of the 2 shot hipfire kill of akimbo marshal in pubs. And they are very forgiving with the huge spread compared to other shotguns.

[@ShaneJ815]

Before this I could feel the EM2 was very powerful and (having only been on the receiving end) the full auto Tec-9 was absolutely broken, I was getting absolutely wrecked at most ranges by the full auto it was absolutely brutal, stupid fast TTK

[@spencertepes2805]

A few hours later the marshal is released and is now broken akimbo

[@RIPmyoldstuff]

I loaded up a custom match with bots to try the tec out and immediately thought it’s absurd. Been waiting for this video.

[@21NillOfa]

i stopped playing CW like 6 months ago and started playing recently just to play some Hijacked bc of the nostalgia and just got a bad experience playing against everyone using the tec 9 and em2 like it's every lobby lol i'm not a Beast player but i'm not bad either but goddamn against those weapons doing good it's hard lmao

[@snwlvl634]

Bro I literally can’t use anything but the tec or the em2 anymore because I’ll just be outmatched if I don’t

[@khaledalblooshi3102]

Is this only in cold war multiplayer? Or its the same in warzone also ?

[@raptorcell6633]

I'd suggest a change to the EM-2, not a nerf. I like the fact that this game finally has a functional Man o War type rifle with this gun. Instead of removing the 3 shot kill, i suggest that it still has a 3 shot kill to the body using the Task Force barrel but also change that attachment to reduce the rifles rate of fire, maybe not to the levels of the Man o War but something similar. 184 MS? Jesus fucking christ, im pretty sure there are SMGs in MW that kill slower than that...

[@lotfic_6712]

How to you get the BO4 "kill sound effect" ?

[@rbangs69]

Anyone know how many EM2/Tech 9 skins are for sale right now?

[@jacquesblack3080]

just wait till you use the new akimbo shotgun pistols. kinda like akimbo 725 with less range

[@ESKATEUK]

Having to get 2 headshots to the head would be utter rubbish and make this gun average in every way. It just needs the recoil slightly increased and the task force 3 shot kill potential taken away.

[@lordcrimson913]

I love/hate the EM2, because at long last there's a high damage/slow fire rifle that's viable and doesn't kick to the moon, however it's just too good, especially with the TFB. My only worry is that when it's nerfed it's just going to be another C58/AK situation where it really has no place next to the Krig or DMR's in its ideal engagement range, hell even the Tec 9 is a damn good light carbine in semi-auto so it might even have trouble with that.

[@courier8365]

Yo Ace, what about the Task Force Barrel on the Tec-9? Bcuz I swear it’s improving the gun even more.

[@kieran7925]

Ive been trying to do the knife kills challenge for season 5, and if I ran into someone with a Tec 9 I would be dead before I could even finish lunging at them😂

[@Klimp88]

You left out where the EM2 has the slowest ADS time of any assault rifle in the game. You're lucky to still be alive by the time you get in the sight on that gun.

[@jeremyjohnson2229]

Same answer every one says about snipers. Ads is just fine 😂. The gun is to op and needs to be nerfed to the ground so smgs can compete at 50 meters

[@Texarmageddon]

Mostly Everyone: This AR and SMG is op nerf it. LMG guys: oh look yet another set of guns making us obsolete in the game.

[@la7127]

If everything is obsolete then nothing is.

[@rockbolton8173]

Tried picking cold war multiplayer again yesterday (been playing zombies instead) and I kept getting shredded by both of these. Makes sense now why.

[@entity-bl5og]

Is the fara 83 still worth using?

[@toxicdragon323]

Should we be surprised? They obviously made the weapons powerful so people are encouraged to buy the battle packs and season tiers to get these weapons. They will only nerf it when they think people aren't buying the battle packs and season tiers at high enough numbers in a given time. It's a repeating process. When they release a new weapon, it's going to be OP so people buy battle packs and season tiers(with a few exceptions).

[@jackkelly6251]

This is why I’m sick of cod (amongst a bunch of other things), they either make the new guns stupidly OP on purpose, or they simply have no idea what they’re doing. There’s no other explanations for why this happens so often.

[@AnimeRamble]

Thank you Ace for doing their job yet again. They release broken content and wonder why retention is low. . .

[@detom1941]

I think they are both fine in mw multiplayer ...

[@bradenmchenry995]

I am not sure why the Tec 9 doesn’t fire at its actual rate of 1,000 rpm. I mean a google search takes 5 seconds

[@GuilhermeHolz]

The Tec-9 is ridiculous, but it also doesn't have a silencer maybe that was their rationale. But anyway completely broken.

[@soap8949]

Using the tec 9 full auto feels like using the mp40 in WaW

[@Vanretr]

The Tec 9 is crazy

[@elderrusty541]

If my dumbass can get top of the leaderboard with the tec 9, it’s got a problem

[@dragimlinplays4202]

If they neefed the damage on the EM2 and added more horizontal recoil and a much slower ads it would be balanced

[@passenger3]

And let's all NOT pretend that this was an accident

[@polymatht5761]

Just curious, how to they balance up in warzone, is it any different? Love the content btw

[@StarXsu90]

I wouldnt want to Reduce the HS Damage but I'd reduce the firerate even further Because The c58 will fade into obscurity even more if we keep the em2's rate of fire once you realise the QBZ And the EM2 Exist the C58 will stay useless

[@karna69]

They are not broken, this is by design to encourage some players to buy into the guy earlier. Once they hit their quota they'll be nerfed to the ground.

[@castkeyboard]

that is the not the definition of 'broken' within the context of this video. no one claimed that these guns were not functioning as intended, but rather, they are meta/balance breaking. which they 100% are.

[@b0rrr]

I disagree with your idea to make the full auto TEC a 4 shot kill. That would make it too similar to the AK-u and that's boring. Just decrease its fire rate to where the TTK is alright, and increase the recoil a bit.

[@chrisjordan2784]

Every player on cold war are using that fucking tec-9 is broken

[@chazz1129]

Class setup?! For cw mp

[@TokyoRavage]

Watch them not change them like they did the AS VAL in MW

[@michaelnelson5118]

What load out is that tech9?

[@gmen1055]

90% of the dlc guns were released overpowered during cw, some are still broken to this day like the lc10

[@TheXclusiveAce]

The LC10 is very versatile but far from broken. It's beat up close by most SMGs and at range by most ARs, it's just super easy to use and is good at most things which makes it a very popular choice. These 2 guns are literally unstoppable at any range.

[@UmiZoomR]

Boy o boy do i regret purchasing this game.

[@raymondel-haddad7312]

this game is great compared to the new ones, I really liked this and the beta was so nostalgic to me playing it with my brother

[@qrigaming9384]

EM2 has broken the League Play.... Now every main AR player uses this gun...

[@vshockgamingandmore7735]

I don’t think the base EM2 is overpowered at all. The slow fire rate and mediocre base TTK makes it fairly unforgiving and the recoil doesn’t naturally climb to the head so you have to start out aiming right at it and it’s hard to keep up with people moving quickly with the slow fire rate. With the task force barrel it definitely is the best AR but I’m really not sure what they should do about it. Maybe make it require all 3 shots hit the upper torso or head to get a 3 shot kill?

[@tomdurcan2323]

The tec 9 has sucked out any fun left in this game,gotten progressively worse the last few seasons releasing all this broken shit with stupid challenges and game modes

[@GTgaming69]

These guns are obviously broken as shit, but id be lying if i said i didnt have a crazy amount of fun getting them dm ultra.

[@EssAlii]

I hate peoples responses to new guns, if it’s good then “oh treyarch intentionally did this to make more money and make people play the game more”, if the gun is average no one uses or talks about it, and if it’s below average “oh I’m so disappointed in treyarch they don’t care about the game anymore”... you can’t win :/

[@the1steveL]

Not a big surprise.

[@Durplepurple94572]

They aren't really much of an issue for me I just kill them with the Marshals😅

[@ImmortalMarz]

They just dropped the marshal shotgun pistol and it's broken as well.

[@cranked2334]

I use a lw3 tundra for nukes

[@RjsWrld]

So no gun guide ?

[@josephpaulduffey873]

Yet the EM2 is so inaccurate in Warzone, has such horrible initial recoil, that someone can literally be standing there afk and 1 of 4 bullets will hit.

[@banishclock17]

I...knew...it!

[@kevinhall357]

I LOVE BOTH OF THEM SO HEARING THIS FROM ACE DOESN'T SURPRISE ME, I'VE BEEN IN BEAST MODE WITH THESE TWO GUNS EVER SINCE THEY DROPPED 😂😂😂😂

[@jeremiahwicklund8525]

This kinda makes me glad I use Warzone to level up the new Cold War weapons and not multiplayer.

[@mikekryaz956]

It's ridiculous how greedy or blind devs of this game. It's just discussing. There is only 2 ways in this case. 1st they didn't play this game at all, so they didn't even test and understand what are they doing or the money just blind them as f..k and they just s..t on us with every new seasons. I also want to say about raven. I didn't think that they would be worse than iw but with cw integration game turned into mess. So disappointing

[@zenpai5998]

So I hate Cold War multiplayer, like haven’t touched it for months. That said, my KD has been above 3.0 EVERY game since I unlocked the tec 9

[@Perry2186]

Imagine that the new guns for a new season are broken its almost like it's on purpose to get people to buy the pass to keep up with the jones if you know what I mean

[@JordanTV12]

I don't think anyone in this comment section thinks these broken ass guns are "just fine" Activision and treyarch knew how broken they were when the weapons were in beta testing and they didn't care to change it until they do eventually nerf these weapons

[@JordyVsTheWorId]

Weird how the Tec -9 is an smg, even though it’s actually a pistol

[@gc_playzz8]

Lol man I love these guns I hope they leave them alone just buff all the other guns

[@austinjansen4597]

Every lobby is pretty much dominated by people unleashing hell with either the EM or the Tec9 so ya it’s ridiculous I rarely rage but this is unplayable

[@slapbass9125]

The EM2 has been fun to use, but yeeaah. Even with a stubby build, i can kill people across maps relatively easily. And I wish there was any incentive to use the Tech 9 in Semi Auto. Not only is it overpowered, but it feels like you don't have a lot of options that are really viable; besides Full Auto. And there are no suppressors!

[@Cooler989]

Totally agree