They Did Playable Strike Freedom Dirty (Next Plus)

[@MrAsaqe]

Imagine if certain Ms got the Freedom Boss Treatment RX78 -increased beam rifle speed -Guntank and Guncannon assist -Increased melee priority for his 2B -Gundam Hammer has higher swing range

[@hanslubas]

Wing Zero EW: Unlimited TBR Triple Charge Spam.

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

I mean to be fair there's a reason why it's the "Boss" Strike Freedom. As for the normal's usefulness, you do have to remember; Versus games didn't get really good until the days of Extreme vs. (Hell in Plus, you can't even guard with every unit.... only the ones that have shields!) Besides, at this point it's like doing a comparison to playing Akuma vs Shin Akuma.

[@uandresbrito5685]

Except Akuma is almost always good or top tier. A great character with many options that just gets stupid in the boss version. Regular SF is so sad, it has nothing.

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

@@uandresbrito5685 .....not in Alpha 2 he wasn't. But anyway, as I said; Next Plus wasn't made to be super competitive given the technical limits of the PSP. At best, it was a game you could play with your buddies and simply have fun playing your favorite suits. And if you really want to talk "Nerfed", what about the Sazabi? Or even Master Gundam? Hell, even the Gundam MK-II (Titans) feels underwhelming! What I think the real issue is, we're too used to how suits play in newer entries and in the case of the boss units; we aren't even supposed to play them to begin with.....

[@uandresbrito5685]

@@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai I said almost, you read it. Not really. Those were always arcade games, of course the idea of competitive gaming wasn't as strong back then, specially for arena fighters, but it's Gvs we're talking about, THE japanese arcade game. The fact thei ditched the simulation-like games for the faster, more intense crossover games is a testament to this shift, even if it wasn't as it is today. And? Just because SF isn't the only one doesn't mean it's any better. It's not only about balance, but the suit being poorly implemented into the game for no reason. If we were really just comparing these to Exvs all suits would feel "underwhelming". There's no defending it.

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

@@uandresbrito5685 "Poorly implemented into the game for no reason?" What about the people who simply want to play the suit because it's their favorite? My thing is this, if you don't like the unit then fine and just like how you say there's no defending its implementation I say you equally can't convince me that the unit isn't FUNCTIONAL. That said, I'm not going into this any further because quite frankly..... it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things does it?

[@uandresbrito5685]

@@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai Poorly implemented for no reason means there is no reason, no way you try to put it, for some suits to be that way if there are many others well-implemented. But of course you'd interpret it as me invalidating their presence in the game lmao It's better to have a meh unit than none, but that doesn't detract from my criticism at all.

[@burg3575]

the music you used instantly reminded me of how much time I put into this game years ago, the NEXTplus game mode iirc

[@renashi0127]

As someone who kept playing GV NEXT+ constantly on my emu, I can very much agreed that the unit is one of the worst 3K cost unit alongside DX. I would add Epyon but that unit is Melee-based. However, God Gundam is much more better than Epyon in terms of Arcade mode when against Boss units. Would really recommended the Freedom and Destiny than the SF. Also, best 3K unit personally would be 00 Raiser. Spams the Shotgun charge is so much satisfying and also the unit is OP in this version of GV.

[@REALMARCHINADER]

What did you say about the Double X? The DX is a great suit in this game. The Satellite Cannons are godly strong and can half health even the sturdiest 3k suits in the game with one shot. Even without the SC it still has one of the fastest recharge times for weaponry and has pretty strong damage for any weapon across the board. Not to mention it's G Falcon assist is pretty fun to abuse. Get good with positioning and predicting the enemies and you'll see how strong it truly is.

[@renashi0127]

@@REALMARCHINADER Then it is not for me then, because despite the ability to have 3 charges to eliminate 3k units effectively, the support is sadly a one-shot use and need high skill to land a shot properly with the Moon canons. Honestly, as of recent, I'd put V2 Gundam in the list for best 3K units. The unit is fast, shield bash can auto-block. And in V-Buster mode, you can block attacks by D-pad South + O (Psp controller), an easier way to input the defend. I would even add that beginners can easily use V2 Gundam in this game.

[@REALMARCHINADER]

@@renashi0127 The support gives you super armor. Just bait the enemy to melee you then give them the sat cannons.

[@REALMARCHINADER]

​@@renashi0127 The main strength of Double X comes from it's simplicity. It's moveset is simpler than even the original RX-78. As long as you know the fundamentals of the game, it's a strong suit to use. It might not have the long ass combos of the other suits but it frankly doesn't need it. What takes other suits dozens of punches to achieve can be done woth 5 shots with the DX buster rifle, or a side swipe of the beam saber. It's especially noticeable when you're fighting multiple at a time. Basically, if you hate Double X, you're just ass at the game.

[@_carlito_5367]

As a kid, I kept spamming BC and multi CSA hoping the same thing would happen 😭

[@Yuu_Takasaki]

Kinda wish that Dragoon Combo was his Super in Exvs

[@aristo999999999]

Oh my, reminds me trying to finish this in PSP fighting the sf boss version.

[@rafaerudono]

1:45 Bamco. That's the only answer you need to know.

[@Bomby77]

It was so bizarre how weak SF was compared to the rest of the 3000 units in the game. If I remember correctly, Strike Freedom was the only 3000 unit that had less beam rifle damage and health than the standard 3000 unit.

[@uandresbrito5685]

I think there are many health values for 3k, so I don't know which one is the regular, but yeah, it's the lowest.

[@jordan_ys]

@@uandresbrito5685 It's even worse that SF's health is almost on par with standard 2000 suit health. Only thing saving the suit is the SEED Mode CSA (HiMat Full Burst) and multi target CSa. Freedom on the other hand, only has 30 HP more than Freedom, but you get a pretty solid shooter whose melee attacks are monstrous (you can shred a lot of damage with (NBB 2B >> 4/6BB)

[@jordan_ys]

30 HP more than Strike Freedom*

[@adimasguntur]

Boss SF have that crazy dragoon issen move

[@jordansparks2608]

That's a pretty sad downgrade. I really want to like SF in MBON and it becomes an angel of death on Shooting Burst, but it kinda feels like half a suit to me. I really want to try the version from the newer games because it feels like the belly beam and new moves really completes it.

[@indigonovember3465]

Oof, the nerfed multi-lock CsA is like Zabanya's multi-lock CsA...

[@Kazeki001]

The devs hate every suit that's not wing zero

[@kathykam8888]

Even his rengou vs zaft 2 incarnation had a better moveset, glad they brought it back for the exvs series but why change it here?

[@danmakuusou9348]

Rengou vs ZAFT 2 SF have solid movesets + flexible speed to for not just firing spam but close combat too, while not OP too. So idk why Next Plus nerfed the thing to this pathetic level

[@vxcodm4121]

I guess because of how good the SF was, they have to do that to make the other gundam more viable in gameplay. But still, although a lot of player don’t really like this, I personally manage to prevent the SF boss making any pressure to me. Of course I didn’t use any cheat

[@lokostalel9068]

holy, HD next plus

[@tkb12]

Despite being so weak, it still was my favorite suit lol

[@benjaminchanchai2756]

When I charge it combines

[@genji_trx]

How to activate that lowest skill in wht control do i have to press bcoz i wonder for what prpose it was

[@wyinsonlee3146]

square + X, it sends you into seed mode and your charged attack will do freedom's signature move as seen at 1:38. Not sure what else it does other than that.

[@benjaminchanchai2756]

Are there two versions of this game

[@mrezaslebew6360]

I really hate that they limited the Full Burst attack, we can only do that attack twice max (if you charge the CSA, delay it, going seed mode and charge again to the max, you can use the Full Burst at Higher count of Seed mode (around 70-50) then charge it again before the seed mode gone to do it again) Number 2, No badass Super Dragoon Combo. That attack is so cool but they dont let the playable one have that attack

[@uandresbrito5685]

I'm pretty sure the full burst forces the mode to end. That or it just takes too long and I never noticed I could next dash out of it in time

[@mrezaslebew6360]

Maybe

[@uandresbrito5685]

@@mrezaslebew6360 It's trash either way

[@Arima1022]

@@uandresbrito5685 btw how to do the SEED mode?

[@uandresbrito5685]

@@Arima1022 In Next+ it's AC I think.

[@AllegroRubato]

Devs were Shinn fanboys

[@shirakani]

You should see Boss SF in Full Boost vs the actual playable SF. There's a mod that makes it playable and ho boy... which is somewhat scary coz Full Boost's SF isn't all that bad, in fact... All future games' SF is just very slightly tweaked versions of it and in Maxiboost ON it's very high tier... yet Boss SF rapes its shit inside out.

[@mellihampebrianco.d9481]

Sf just like nu & sazabi in this game Mybe funnel weapon is too op for this game

[@zethythonix]

"Kinda Ass", no Minato, it's the worst 3K in Next Plus...

[@supervegito1428]

1:53 ost

[@tylerox9]

Lol. The People thought this vid was gonna be something else in the community post comments.

[@Anjaybehhh]

What bos ver mean? Is that mod?

[@uandresbrito5685]

This is so sad. Freedom has infinite Full Burst, some of the coolest melee in the game and is a high tier unit and SF has like 3 different melee and everything is bad or average besides the main(weak) ammo. I refuse to play Freedom because of favoritism, but its cool combos are so tempting...

[@poweredbyrice129]

they need to remake this gndam game on switch

[@m.raiyanalhabsyi9050]

Mod?

[@Bruh-cj8pt]

Idk man , cant decide to buy a ps4 for mbon or wait for evs2 to come to ps5 and then buy ps5

[@jigglejogglers2606]

To be fair, boss SF is overpowered as fuk. Only problem was its Meele combos, it could've at least got the omnislash (2B) combo when its in seed mode, which last around 10s anyways. BAse SF is shit

[@SiriusJuanForte]

Sandrock is also "playable" to an extent in N+

[@StrongArmElijah]

What do you mean

[@SiriusJuanForte]

@@StrongArmElijah it’s only playable with cheats

[@DejaVuCrossX]

gundam x and dx are ass in n+

[@uandresbrito5685]

What's wrong with X?

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

And did you forget that you could MANUALLY CHARGE the Twin Satellite Cannon for the DX? Can't do that in Extreme/Maxi now can you?

[@dondaketype8811]

@@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai I'd take having a reloadable Leopard and Airmaster assist over vulcans any day lol. Manually charging the sat cannon takes about as long as the automatic reload does in Exvs and in Exvs it basically is a super during burst.

[@dondaketype8811]

@manifestation of Gudako's insanity Double X in next plus seems to be a continuation of Gundam X from Vanilla Gundam vs Gundam, where it was far worse. Gundam X in that game was absolutely horrendous not only because of the lack of boost dash cancel(unless you were Freedom) but also the fact that if you blocked too many times, you LOST YOUR BEAM RIFLE.

[@Phoenix_Destiny_Kai]

@@dondaketype8811 Yeah..... that always was a weird thing with me when it came to the design of Gundam X's Shield Rifle. I mean, why make your main weapon also a shield? (And yes, I am aware that technically the Blitz, Amatsu/Mina and especially the Gouf Custom kind of did this for their primary but in the former cases; I believe they weren't really meant for direct combat anyway and the Gouf shield was purgeable so you didn't really lose a primary, just some extra weight)

[@phmadara4636]

Try the original gameplay. U just use cwc

[@marksayosmejia7251]

I hate kira so it is fine.

[@hunz179]

Ah another PPSSPP android moment