...THEY DO EXIST!!!

[@KenK-mn3xc]

After your vids showing that poor old remnant sagging on those concrete blocks, it's a glorious revelation to get to see a couple of the Pullmanettes that have survived so well and are up for renovation. Thanks for showing, and good luck to the owners! (I'm so glad this Wason Lost Rail Beds! --- sorry ;-)

[@lostrailbeds8289]

We're all glad the new owners have the perseverance and means and know-how to get the project done! Great "pun" by the way!!

[@kevincurtis6550]

Thanks for sharing, Russ. Great find & kudos to the owners who are bringing them back to their original state. Preserving history.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Yes, they are extremely committed to this project. That makes me feel good!

[@KibuFox]

One detail note: The Wason one was a power car from the 1901 to 1903 batch, or potentially one of the 1913 batches. This is evident in that it didn't have the retrofitted side sliding doors. Also, its overall length being greater than the unknown builder other car marks it as being a power car. The smaller car is likely a Gilbert & Bush, Bowers & Dure, or Pullman built trailer car from the 1881 to 1889 batch of cars built. The shorter trailer cars predate the power cars, with their size being related directly to their elevated use. At the time, elevated trains were pulled by 0-4-4 Forney steam locomotives, with link and pin couplings. The shorter length allowed for tighter curves, but also restricted the needed space for resistor banks and traction controls. The power cars were longer as a result, with the underframe space housing the resistor banks, and providing space for traction control. As built, these would have been 'gate' cars. Essentially open vestibules on each end with a simple manual gate that was opened to admit passengers when the trains were stopped. Starting in 1902, the earlier elevated cars started being replaced with subsequent batches of cars, with a rough even mix of gate cars and trailer cars. These later batches of elevated cars were visually similar to the earlier cars, though they did differ in overall length, with the average car length at that time reaching 55 feet. Compared with the earlier shorter average of 45 foot for the power cars. These later elevated cars ended up being used on the subway portions of the NYC subway system, while the earlier cars were generally being divested of to various other uses. Couple notes: These cars were always 'open' on the vestibules. If you look closely, you can see where the later owners enclosed the gate ends of the cars after placement. The wood present in the 'vestibule' area is of a different type than the rest of the car's construction. The period photo is of the power car as it would have looked in service. Note the large window on the right front end. That's the position where the motorman stood or sat. At the time, there was no separation between the motorman (engineer) and passengers. There is an easy way to tell if these are from the early batch of cars, or the late batch. Early cars had square corners in the top pane of their side windows. Later cars had a curved detail there, giving the top sash a more 'curved' look. Also, the windows along the clerestory, in the later cars, had three small window panes which could be swiveled out to provide ventilation and air circulation. Early cars had three large (comparatively so) window panes that opened differently. The late cars would have a small blanked out 'gap' between the small opening clerestory windows.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Wow! Where do I start? Your knowledge of these cars is wonderful and VERY much appreciated! We are just amazed that, after "finding" the 1st one...the derelict one...and then finding all the foundations out in the woods, that to THEN find these 2??!!! It is by chance that the new owners discovered our channel and reached out to us...inviting us down to document, it's just been a fun wild ride thus far. The whole story is 1 for the books, that's for sure!

[@mikewinkelman7015]

Those brass plaques bring big money

[@lostrailbeds8289]

They're prescious right where they are!

[@RodeoRides]

looking forward to the documenting of their progress Thanks

[@lostrailbeds8289]

We sure are too! Thanks....

[@lrhogusa]

Nice knowing this.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Thanks!

[@paulbergen9114]

Finding a car like that with those little brass plaques from the original Builder it's like finding a jewelry box in the pyramids. Then when you show the 92 cars listing that was one heck of a fleet. It's amazing how certain things were built and then repurposed. Wisconsin had their share of old trolleys coaches Etc that maybe were cabins for a while but now have pretty much rotted away or destroyed by fire or were even downgraded to chicken coops. About 30 years ago I do remember on the edge of town near the Montana Rail Link yards in Laurel MT a field filled with 25 to 30 old Northern Pacific and Great Northern stock cars off their trucks and used as animal shelters. Thanks to you and your loyall staff for checking out this most worthy restoration

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Thank you for the kind words...always! We just love Whaley Lake!

[@AlanKroeger]

Another fine episode

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Why, thank you kind Sir!!

[@wallycox4579]

This is an amazing episode.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

We were SO excited to have been invited down to view them.

[@kimchaffee9845]

Wow, what an incredible find!! So cool

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Yes, they sure were! We've been documenting this place-Sanita Hills- for a while now. This is the 4th video of cool discoveries....each time we go we get So MUCH More excited! Hope to catch up with you soon! Thanks Kim!

[@1999jeep1999]

Very interesting and enjoyable keep it up

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Thanks! We LOVE Whaley Lake/ Sanita!

[@union01089]

Great video! I would love to stay in one of those cabins. The history of the Wason mfg co and the Sanita Hills was fascinating too. There is now a Chinese company making rail cars in Springfield.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

The owners will be Air-B-N-B ing them when complete. They will more than likely do very well with that! Of course there's a Chinese company in Springfield making rail cars......I guess I don't understand why. Thanks for enjoying the video!!

[@danielfantino1714]

Too good to be true 😊 For those "insane" like that lovely people, 1) have a place that YOU OWN. 2) be sure that is allowed, no future complaint to have your "shittery" removed. 3) have physical access to bring your "toys". 4) have $$$$ to move them to your paradise 5) you have still plenty of $$$$, you find and NOW you can buy. Or Something like them already in situ that come with your purchased land. Not doing that way is a long miserable journey that you really don´t hope to know. Nice catch they did. No real emergency. May be some tarp on roof to protect from leaking. Those cars seem to have well survived many decades that way. But i´m a bit concerned about that roof veranda weight with a foot or 2 of heavy snow. Cars roof and side were not designed for that long term extra weight. May be it is and i didn´t notice, but poles should hold them. Not the car itself. Minus that, these 2 cars appear in excellent shape. The good point with wood cars is in easyness to find wood to replace rotten parts. A lot lot harder with aluminium or stainless cars. Ya Budd cars last for ever. In 200 years from now , they´ll still be shiny, until someone put them on fire. Then you´ll scratch your head with what to do with the banana shape left over. Joy of preservation.... Real nice document you and them, shared with us. Thanks to all.

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Awesome!

[@mikedc3]

This is awesome!! Another great vid! Thanks!!

[@lostrailbeds8289]

Thanks! As always.....