Can't play without tanks, yet tanks get absolutely nothing in return... Why would anyone want to play tank? MVP but no reward, no thanks, no nothing. Fail
@ryujisasaki912228 күн бұрын
if u use GS SS or SS wand u can change mode on the go. its only bad for other than that 2 but i always see those 2 type in every CO.OP DG so i think it wont matter much.
@deustauries28 күн бұрын
Your guild is responsible for seeing you get setup. The only tanks who don't benefit are those who are guild less. Hope this helps.
@ambientretreats252928 күн бұрын
@@deustauries everyone can get geared out by playing, but tanks can only get handouts? Gimme gimme, I'll try that I guess. No point in playing right, if guild is gonna give me my gear I'll sit and watch and beg. Sounds legit no issue here
@ue934827 күн бұрын
You can totally play without tank now, because player is reaching that point where they can kill thing really fast now, as long as they getting healed.
@ryujisasaki912227 күн бұрын
@@ue9348 my alt dagger and CB always makesift tank when 1 of tank dc. Just maks out evasion trait and have at least 14k hp with good healer.
@doomshaman585328 күн бұрын
Another comment, with this loot system they are also increasing the player growth disparity, the geared up players will keep growing being prioritized by the loot drop system. The new players will get discouraged and leave, game will only have a couple whale guilds running around and they will leave because of getting bored fighting same handful of players.
@nozzart28 күн бұрын
True
@lilzoe1000128 күн бұрын
Theres hardly any reason to play tank at this point.
@ue934827 күн бұрын
I told my buddy before this list was release, is that this drop system feels like it is based on who is doing the highest dmg.. because he a bow and staff and doing all the dmg, earning all the loots too.. while i was support and my other buddy is a tank.. and unfortunately, this proof I was right... this game is even more screwded if this is how loot is distributed... more people are going to stop playing tank and support, and all you have left in this game are dps trying to kill the boss as fast as possible. Korean games pull this move a lot imo, at launch it usually all about roles, but as soon as the game about 1 years old you start to see a shift, from roles playing to just dominated by self sustain dps.
@danielcampos470428 күн бұрын
Agreed, this basically discourages new people to do tanks and solo farming. If everyone gets an equal opportunity to get the loot and no additional add ons to loot when farming then theres no point in farming solo.
@akbarmuhsin525728 күн бұрын
Well at least tank build has GS and SNS. Now is time to pick up Dagger to pair with GS 😅
@santih847728 күн бұрын
tanks are already penaltied on events (fast kills and movility), now on world bosses...next are dungeons...
@akbarmuhsin525728 күн бұрын
There will be no dungeon, without tank lol
@Atandat28 күн бұрын
It was a good ~ 300 hours, but I'm done.
@Jsiano9118 күн бұрын
Why don't they just add hps and dpt (healing per/ damage per taken) for healers and tanks. The Dps contribution is just a joke.
@ImmolationBloom29 күн бұрын
Looks like our RNG has TANKED ❤️🩹💀
@chitonyourchu28 күн бұрын
The only world boss loot I've ever gotten was on my 2k CP tank ALT, and I died that run too. Nothing on the 3.3k dps in 50 runs. Go figure
@ryujisasaki912228 күн бұрын
beginner luck 🤣
@nobody564827 күн бұрын
3.3k cp pve build or pvp ?
@chitonyourchu26 күн бұрын
The 3.3 version is pve, but ended up getting shadow harvester mask on that char.
@nobody564825 күн бұрын
@@chitonyourchu ok you finally got it after 50ish run 😅
@zeara769224 күн бұрын
i think the loot distribution actually sucks.... me and my team were doing Tyrants isle and we were fighting the final boss... There was me the healer and a dps only fighting cause the rest of the team died while the boss was still more than half HP I find that healers aren't actually getting rewarded for their contribution at all cause most of the gear i get is just blue. Even if being the last one fighting the boss and doing a lot of healing. And that wasnt even the first time i find it a bad situation for healers and tanks or it might just be me and my friends really unlucky.
@brianhansen648129 күн бұрын
Transparency with random chances has to be shown in the EU if money/gambling is involved. So it's the law really. At least in the EU
@doomshaman585328 күн бұрын
The loot system is not multiple player friendly for an MMO. Everyone contributing in any way should have equal chances at loot. Also same should be with all mobs, no matter who hit first or does most damage. Tanks are screwed by the whole loot system, they are not ranged and lack dps. I got to run around while a ranged guy just aggro's all mobs with a bow or staff
@deustauries28 күн бұрын
So if someone hits the boss for 0.01% of it's health, they should have equal chance. Lol, ok.
@doomshaman585328 күн бұрын
@@deustauries You seem dense. Have you ever heard about MMO's and roles like tanks and healers? That's how this game will die, it died in korea and will die faster globally.
@Shadowf1re28 күн бұрын
I've stopped playing because i havnt gotten an upgrade from a drop in 3 weeks. I also don't have time grind out dungeons and contracts that give mediocre pieces I don't need.
@Vindictus012227 күн бұрын
As a tank gs/sns, im thinking to switch gs/dagger
@DJSoulbrother27 күн бұрын
One of the tanks in my guild has had 2 field boss drops
@egis51128 күн бұрын
I was telling all my friends all was based on damage. I play Tank, healer, paladin and dps (4 chars). The rng is pathetic. As a matter of fact, even in dungeons, developers troll tanks. I had to run abyss close to 100 times to get epic chest armour. All my dps friends are fully geared. I am done with this f****ing sh** game.
@johnnygloria650828 күн бұрын
Imma stay tank because I know they will fix this even if not I love being needed in everything
@nonope407229 күн бұрын
The boss drops are a bit dumb. I've never gotten one. Maybe 45 bosses.
@ryandugan917628 күн бұрын
(Tanks deal damage in this game you silly billies, contribution is a gear score contest)
@lilzoe1000128 күн бұрын
Tanks barely do damage esp if you are playing sns/wand, you just provide everyone buffs and tank damage and dont get anything in return.
@xildtru451527 күн бұрын
Is this FF8 music? This feels so familiar!
@nervosadustbolt964226 күн бұрын
Yes, it is. Astute observation, dawg. nice work!
@TheBarkster28 күн бұрын
They will 100% change this. Calm down. The outrage is being heard.
@easynow133728 күн бұрын
They haven't changed it yet and apparently it has been this way since day 1 on western release..
@nervosadustbolt964226 күн бұрын
why would they even release it like this?
@slavimarinov835728 күн бұрын
NCsoft in their pure form 😂😅 this is bullsh*t
@Turtle_11c29 күн бұрын
tanks have never been very good. Max melee and ranged evasion still gets dumpstered by xbow dagger. Dagger greatsword feels tankier than playing an actual tank role. Its just a pve role for the games dungeons
@MysticVibrate28 күн бұрын
U must be low gear score bro. Fight someone with 3.5-6k gs sns/ wand. Boy they will make u quit this game. 1500 melee/range evasion no xbow spin to win is hitting a geared tank.
@i.am.me7728 күн бұрын
Im 3600+ tank and xbow hits me with 0 dmg 😅 i pop counterbarrior and those xbows kill them selfs 😅
@KawałowaEkipa29 күн бұрын
The whole gearing and loot system is stupid as hell, why u cant sell loot but you have to make some stupid litographs???? Everyone who participate in boss fight and do some dmg or heal should have same chance for a drop, otherwise its not fair and if u tank or healer forget about the loot and move on, dont waiste ur time on this game, there are better games and more to come in near future.
@FlyLeeeaaaf27 күн бұрын
In pvp fck the tanks. Tanky, dashes, ccs, oneshots..
@Dynatos-9928 күн бұрын
I swapped to GS/Dagger after a few days as a tank and glad doing so after seeing this
@jack931629 күн бұрын
the vids where great but i already decided to quit T&L and never try another korean mmo again after being reminded how garbage these games are and such low teir mmos entirely reliant on pay to win and nutcup large alliances that are un fun and counter intuitive to fun pvp
@didisinful28 күн бұрын
Ok bye but say it again without crying😂
@jack931628 күн бұрын
@@didisinful I did but then again expressing issues with a game to dick riding fanboys will always hurt there delicate little feelings and have them reply with something along the lines of "Ok bye but say it again without crying" gl achieving nothing in life.
@cerealkillah716028 күн бұрын
We're not screwed, the game is screwed. I don't mind leaving this game, I'm still active on some mmo. I'd be happy to leave this game, should they decide to make it more of a "pay to win" setup