They Just Beat Mario Maker But There's A Problem With The Final Level

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@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
Edit: IT'S BEEN BEATEN BY SANYX www.twitch.tv/lilkirbs www.twitch.tv/sanyx91smm2 www.twitch.tv/jankpickle
@DavidWonn
@DavidWonn 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what event on that day could possibly eclipse this?
@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
@@DavidWonn There a levels to this comment I wasn't prepared for
@SilasAdra
@SilasAdra 8 ай бұрын
Wooooo so close! well they did already win but trying to beat a TAS level can't wait to see how it turns out! Edit: Trimming the herbs has been conquered just in the nick of time!
@paulelderson934
@paulelderson934 8 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely hyped for LilKirbs beating TTH. He is such a beast at Mario maker.
@KingBoo97
@KingBoo97 8 ай бұрын
@@paulelderson934 You should be more hyped for Sanyx since he's much more consistent and much closer to beating it (he got to the very end a couple days ago). Kirbs would need a big fluke to get it before him.
@kylecoulombe7890
@kylecoulombe7890 8 ай бұрын
Update: Sanyx91SMM2 has just beaten this level legitimately! Super Mario has officially been Made.
@ItsMeChair1
@ItsMeChair1 8 ай бұрын
When the Supa Mario gets made
@firemayro
@firemayro 8 ай бұрын
It truly is the Making of Super Mario
@Seafor-v4l
@Seafor-v4l 8 ай бұрын
Maybe the real Super Mario Maker was the friends we made along the way...
@pbjandahighfive
@pbjandahighfive 8 ай бұрын
Did he really beat it though? There is some stuff about what happens in the stream right before "beating it" that looks pretty damn sus. Like for hours and hours dude doesn't ever even get though the first section and then suddenly starts doing some weird stuff with the screen and with OBS (almost as if they are setting something else up in the background while distracting chat...), then sets everything back to "normal" and then like 3 attempts later he magically makes it all the way to the end? Right. No face cam, no hand cam, just some weird stuff and a "trust me bro".
@willmerc11
@willmerc11 8 ай бұрын
@@pbjandahighfive He has beaten other difficult levels and has been practicing for weeks before it was even know to be TASed. The first section is also the hardest so it makes sense why he would die the most there, also you can see how many times he has got close at the bottom of the stream. Creating a TAS device and making believable progress would probably be harder than just beating the level.
@mukiex4413
@mukiex4413 8 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if they'd already done it when he revealed? "MAAAN this was a bullshit hard stage" "WTF BRUV I BEAT IT WITH A ROBOT"
@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
There was a question on if this info should be revealed before someone beats it, but obviously it was decided to release the info publically not long after it was revealed.
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 8 ай бұрын
Didn't this exact thing happen with another one of the same person's stages
@MadVampire-CM
@MadVampire-CM 8 ай бұрын
@@ohno5559 yeah bombs5 was beaten legit by fast and tea (see 13:52) before ahoyo confessed
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
​@@MadVampire-CMSo you're saying fast and tea are bots?
@MadVampire-CM
@MadVampire-CM 8 ай бұрын
@@CptJistuce no, gods at the game
@schwiftyizzy7243
@schwiftyizzy7243 8 ай бұрын
Update: Sanyx91smm2 has beat the final level! April 4th or 5th there is a VOD and he beat it. What a mad man.
@avefig5809
@avefig5809 8 ай бұрын
That was crazy
@justindowning3845
@justindowning3845 8 ай бұрын
The hero I didn't know I needed🎉 thanks for the news
@Sedona_FD3S
@Sedona_FD3S 7 ай бұрын
Bruh why you just decide to lie in the comments?
@CamyWFC
@CamyWFC 7 ай бұрын
​@@Sedona_FD3Syou might be stupid mate
@Lachlan_McDougall
@Lachlan_McDougall 5 ай бұрын
@@Sedona_FD3Sthere’s no lie?
@spencereades
@spencereades 8 ай бұрын
There's something beautifully appropriate about the final SMM level being essentially a troll.
@mrpojsomnoj3313
@mrpojsomnoj3313 8 ай бұрын
Especially considering Nintendo's war against troll levels.
@jellycore1316
@jellycore1316 8 ай бұрын
Aww, it's true ;w; It's beautiful
@SimoneBellomonte
@SimoneBellomonte 8 ай бұрын
Yes and imho, if this ends up being the final level being cleared, its only gonna be even more hype than The Last Dance tbh!
@bepis_real
@bepis_real 8 ай бұрын
If we're being fair, The Last Dance will go down in history for years and years. The story about Trimming the Hedges will be an extra tale, entirely different from "what was the last completed mario maker level"
@Clara_Rathian
@Clara_Rathian 8 ай бұрын
Trimming the Herbs just got cleared by a French player.
@courageousdad757
@courageousdad757 8 ай бұрын
The fact that the Wii U had 11 years of online service, but the original Wii only had FIVE (six counting online multiplayer games), is WILD.
@alisona.4166
@alisona.4166 8 ай бұрын
It was being hard carried by the 3DS servers being so intertwined.
@ayansharma7572
@ayansharma7572 8 ай бұрын
yeah
@PhilipWester
@PhilipWester 8 ай бұрын
The Wii's online multiplayer functionalities were shut down because they were done through Gamespy, a third party, and Gamespy shut down that part of their business.
@courageousdad757
@courageousdad757 8 ай бұрын
@@PhilipWester it sucks to know the truth that Nintendo couldn't keep the Wii's online services running because of another company's shutdown.
@Caketurtle7
@Caketurtle7 7 ай бұрын
Womp womp
@pubcle
@pubcle 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I feel for both parties here. The ability to implement TAS in this way is a fantastic accomplishment when no one thought it possible, & it would have been a really cool reveal if it had gone off as he wanted it to. It is extremely unfortunate how things played out & that the public pressure mounted likely making it difficult for him to come forward. That is not to excuse him but it is understandable & appreciable as he had to come forward & face the mess he had completely unintentionally created.
@pubcle
@pubcle 8 ай бұрын
@@aaakkk112 Okay, it's not incredibly out there, it's not a totally untouched field, but it had not been applied here. Innovation is not solely generative but heavily iterative. Nobody else was doing it, nobody else thought it could be implemented, nobody else had put in the work to try to do so. I think downplaying it so much when it was something others had explored & debated for years but not found a good implementation is a massive disservice. Even if the end solution seems obvious in hindsight.
@permafrostyx
@permafrostyx 8 ай бұрын
@@pubcle its a shame he didnt talk about it for years i guess he mustve thought it not that impressive or cool 😔
@codetaku
@codetaku 8 ай бұрын
@@pubcleThe dude literally picked the most obnoxious possible time for the community to come clean. Any time before The Last Dance was completed: ideal time to admit it Right after the first clear for the TAS level: second best time to admit it (the fanfare escalates into "by the way, you guys went the extra mile and beat the bonus% level") Right as the deadline hits if the level is never cleared: third best time to admit it. A disappointment will turn into a sigh of relief: secretly, the game had been beaten all along. The tension doesn't go away so there's still at least something to celebrate that people are ready for. Instead, he picked "between The Last Dance being completed and the server deadline". All possibility of fanfare completely petered out. The tension of the challenge disappeared. He literally ruined the challenge for everyone. He knew about this push for *weeks,* including that his level was one of the last few uncleared levels. He had so much time to make it right, so that The Last Dance could get the fanfare it deserved. The way he chose to reveal truly was an asshole move.
@pubcle
@pubcle 8 ай бұрын
@@codetaku You're not considering the position or the pressure or the self-convincing that maybe the community will complete it or anything of that sort. Yes, it was the wrong thing to do to let it sit this long, undoubtedly, but it's a very human error to make that I could see anyone making under the pressure at the time.
@Arassar
@Arassar 8 ай бұрын
Why did he even consider making it a SECRET in the first place?! I don't buy the story.
@Dorumon21
@Dorumon21 8 ай бұрын
the fact they were told it was done in tas, still insist they going to run and clear it is amazing dedication, if someone actually clears it legit, it be a heck of a victory considering the deadline.
@MoneyManHolmes
@MoneyManHolmes 8 ай бұрын
They need to either clear it or present the cheating admission to Nintendo for them to investigate and, if appropriate, officially delete the level for violating ToS. Those are the only 2 ways for the 0% challenge to be completed before the deadline.
@BrawlLegendLink
@BrawlLegendLink 8 ай бұрын
​@@MoneyManHolmesnot at all. The policy is that only legitimately uploaded levels need to be cleared. Also every single illegitimate or now impossible (due to global patches) level remaining has a hacked clear.
@DiscGolfLeagueMVP
@DiscGolfLeagueMVP 8 ай бұрын
Speedrunners are something else lmao
@SimoneBellomonte
@SimoneBellomonte 8 ай бұрын
@@MoneyManHolmes Uhm, no, even if the level upload was cheated, its still very much a doable level, sure its insanely hard, and probably the hardest level of them all, but as long as its possible, then who tfruckinghell even cares, and if people manage to even CLEAR this 1, its gonna be even more hype, cut out the villainizing, the guy came clean about it, and thats all that matters in the end, no ill and / or bad intentions meant is what really counts.
@SimoneBellomonte
@SimoneBellomonte 8 ай бұрын
@@MoneyManHolmes And also, not to mention that its not even that long like the Muncher Stairs,.
@KyrosQuickfist
@KyrosQuickfist 8 ай бұрын
If this was revealed in 2017, Ahoyoo would have been legendary in multiple different ways. Now we have a situation where bombs5 (arguably a more important level for Mario Maker's history) now being an illegitimate upload. At least it has two legit clears. It's still a bad timeline outcome that could have easily been way better. Also, the most annoying part about not knowing the inputs for the momentum control was because you can't see them on-screen because when mario is spinning, the left/right inputs in midair for the momentum control cannot be verified.
@marzipancutter8144
@marzipancutter8144 8 ай бұрын
If it's tased though he could maybe release the initial file, or redo the Tas clear with an input display (If he still has the data).
@Jadez1207
@Jadez1207 8 ай бұрын
For real, he had 5 years to fess up, I would've done it after like a month or so of no attention rather than letting it get to this point, then he gets popular and the community has an amazing new tool.
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita 7 ай бұрын
@@Jadez1207 that would ruin it because people generally have this tas allergy for no reason. While they should celebrate something like that
@notsmoothie
@notsmoothie 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLifeLaVita for no reason 😂 tasing something and not telling people is cheating, there, got you a reason
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita 7 ай бұрын
@@notsmoothie you are part of the problem. you don't get it
@reptiledisfunction9232
@reptiledisfunction9232 8 ай бұрын
guy who beat the muncher stairs had a run that died to the last muncher 😭
@TheRileyC
@TheRileyC 8 ай бұрын
It’s so poetic that the last dance was the last level to be cleared!
@DeadCatX2
@DeadCatX2 8 ай бұрын
🎶 Last dance with Mari-o, one more time to kill the gaaaaaame (apologies to Tom Petty)
@nate7251
@nate7251 8 ай бұрын
@therileyc what about 81 mid-airs ???
@asterpw
@asterpw 8 ай бұрын
Also poetic that the level everyone thought was the last level turned out to be an elaborate troll. Fitting for Mario Maker.
@PRT95
@PRT95 8 ай бұрын
I'm inclined to believe it was the last one uploaded to the servers before they stopped accepting new submissions. I could be wrong. Still, it fits. Perfectly.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
Operation: Last Dance.* *There may, in fact, be one more dance. Also, R-Type owns the phrase "last dance" in my head now.
@omlett6482
@omlett6482 8 ай бұрын
I really hope someone clears THH legit, that would be such a sick ending to the 0% saga.
@axoshlotl2255
@axoshlotl2255 8 ай бұрын
​@@bunnybitchhwell he explained how it would be possible and said that people are still trying so... what do you know
@KingBoo97
@KingBoo97 8 ай бұрын
Sanyx literally almost beat it twice, it's very doable and much harder levels have been beaten humanly
@bllllood
@bllllood 8 ай бұрын
@@KingBoo97 so much determination...also is jankypickle out of the race ? he's not in his runners list
@KingBoo97
@KingBoo97 8 ай бұрын
@@bllllood Idk but out of the players who are tying it Sanyx is undoubtedly the most talented and capable of it, and with the best consistency by far
@matt-hx8uc
@matt-hx8uc 8 ай бұрын
​@@KingBoo97Kirbs and Sanyx are both* undoubtedly talented and capable enough to beat it. Sanyx has played/streamed the level at least 25 hours more than Kirbs has
@harrisonfackrell
@harrisonfackrell 8 ай бұрын
As of today, they've managed to clear Trimming the Herbs legitimately, which is frankly even more hype.
@damiencouturee6240
@damiencouturee6240 8 ай бұрын
9:40 "on the surface, this may not look difficult..." Uhh, yeah it does lmfao. What are you smokin abyssoft 😅❤
@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708
@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 8 ай бұрын
I mean, relatively compared to the other levels left
@Someguyhere111
@Someguyhere111 8 ай бұрын
Smokin' that trimmed herb
@pillshatner6741
@pillshatner6741 8 ай бұрын
To outsiders who don't play kaizo or romhacks and such they can't even imagine the precision that goes into these stages they just see Mario jump short and shit hell u show em a auto hold jump level and they wud be impressed
@Electric0eye
@Electric0eye 8 ай бұрын
It looks difficult, but without context you'd never guess that it might not even be possible.
@xzxInuxzx
@xzxInuxzx 8 ай бұрын
I mean what, you just gotta push some buttons? Can't be harder than working a 10 hour shift... obviously satirical lol. I gave up just looking at the screen let alone before Mario even started moving.
@SpectreXS
@SpectreXS 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think this adds even more to the storyline: The final frontier of SMM being Man vs Machine.
@andy4an
@andy4an 8 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you weren't in the team 0% discord counting down the last levels... If you're hearing about the conclusion now, you're also hearing about the end drama at the same time you heard about the end. It's anti climactic as hell for all of us watching the end with baited breath... Who spent the last couple of days with only one left hoping for a final celebration... And then discover that the success happened days ago without anyone noticing. It feels like we were robbed of our celebration. I wish he had admitted it was TAS when there was at least one other legit level left
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
​@@andy4anThat's one way to look at it. The other way of looking at it is that this level is known clearable, and zero means zero. Operation Last Dance is not the final stage, unless you're a lazy quitter.
@Oakshield2
@Oakshield2 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. I realized while watching this video that I really don't care that someone beat a level with a robot, more power to them. But when you put it like that it's actually kinda compelling.
@Ultimaximus
@Ultimaximus 8 ай бұрын
If the level was uploaded illegitimately, I don't mind if it is cleared illegitimately. There's not enough time left anymore (thanks to Ahoyo admitting it so late), but it would've been great if other people went to just make the TAS inputter themselves as a means of beating the level
@JayFeather321
@JayFeather321 8 ай бұрын
Mann vs. Machine
@JimMilton-ej6zi
@JimMilton-ej6zi 8 ай бұрын
13:53 using "the community couldn't do it, therefore he couldn't" is a flawed argument, the community is tiny compared to actual players, and an individual doesn't need to be in the community to play well. Waverace 64 community learned that the hard way, a japanese guy tried to claim that he held the wave race 64 world record for 18 years, but the community said "our community didn't get that advanced until 2014, so you are lying" but no, it turned out that he had a vhs tape of his attempt and he had that world record and used techniques the community took years to even learn, even longer for them to master those tricks. I can't take anyone who says "the community of a couple hundred people don't do that so the millions of other players don't either" seriously because it's flawed, short sighted and is something only ignorant people say.
@masterjosh778
@masterjosh778 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree lol, these types are just seeking any bit of validation in their lives they can cling to
@kiethuynh9754
@kiethuynh9754 8 ай бұрын
Well that's some gamers for you
@3possumsinatrenchcoat
@3possumsinatrenchcoat 8 ай бұрын
that's the thing that drives me up the wall at some of these Speedrun History type videos. just treats the entire rest of the seven billion people outside of their twenty person discord server as some unknown void that can't possibly have any talent or knowledge of Their Game whatsoever.
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 8 ай бұрын
or the GoldenEye Facility clear where the guy knew from back in the day that looking at the ground made you move faster (a tech I remember as being quite prevelant at the time), but no-one in the modern day speedrun scene had realised that.
@JimMilton-ej6zi
@JimMilton-ej6zi 8 ай бұрын
​@@3possumsinatrenchcoat Yeah it bugs me a lot as well, idk why it's speedrunning communities in particular that act this way the most but it's easily the biggest reason why I stopped doing speedrunning stuff myself, they're just unable to look outside of the community even though the community often times makes up way less than 1% of the total number of players.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 8 ай бұрын
The underrated part of all this, someone cleared Bombs Five *A TAS ONLY LEVEL*.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
Clearly it isn't a TAS-only level. :P
@kiilgore806
@kiilgore806 8 ай бұрын
From what I've heard, Bombs Five wasn't made with TAS in mind, but was just cleared with TAS. TTH was made with TAS in mind.
@animefan7424
@animefan7424 8 ай бұрын
Beast needle was suspected to have been cheated it was beaten
@FUGP72
@FUGP72 8 ай бұрын
It obviously wasn't TAS only. IT was just TAS to the uploader because they were not good enough.
@KCzz15
@KCzz15 8 ай бұрын
@@FUGP72 Nearly, he was good enough but forced to stop due to health issues.
@cinnamonsugarcourtney6073
@cinnamonsugarcourtney6073 8 ай бұрын
I know at least 1 person has done the first few jumps, and after the area you have to thread the needle to the end but putting it all together is a whole other kettle of fish
@JPK314
@JPK314 8 ай бұрын
Sanyx has gotten all the way to the last piranha
@ougonce
@ougonce 8 ай бұрын
There’s literally a clip of someone doing that in the video
@reaperofburgers
@reaperofburgers 8 ай бұрын
​@@ougonce Yeah... The clear video by the creator. Which was tas'd. You know, the whole point of the video?
@SuperShadow64
@SuperShadow64 8 ай бұрын
IT'S BEEN CLEARED IT'S BEEN CLEARED THEY DID IT THEY TRIMMED THE HERBS
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 8 ай бұрын
I thought it was hedges. Oh, well.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 8 ай бұрын
It's sad the SMM1 database is going away. I mean, I get it, but that's a lot of work from a lot of people that's just going to go away forever.
@GeoQuag
@GeoQuag 8 ай бұрын
iirc pretty much all of it has been backed up by fans so it will still be accessible to people who care
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire 8 ай бұрын
​@@GeoQuag It's the guys that also have online Splatoon 1 with Miiverse right?
@oworth
@oworth 8 ай бұрын
@@asafesseidonsapphireyep, someone's going to back them up to Pretendo to be archived on there
@katacutie
@katacutie 8 ай бұрын
Nintendo hates its usersbase, it's been proven time and time again
@ThighFish
@ThighFish 8 ай бұрын
It’s archived on Pretendo.
@WeaponKnight
@WeaponKnight 8 ай бұрын
I watched this video a few minutes ago, then clicked on the streamer links to see if one of them was online. Turns out sanyx91smm2 had JUST cleared it, and was ending the stream. What a coincidence lol
@roland.w
@roland.w 8 ай бұрын
"This may not _look_ difficult" You serious, this level design makes me want to not exist more than I already do.
@dailydelphox
@dailydelphox 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't blame the guy. He obviously didn't intend to take away any sense of victory when he did this, it just happened that way in the end by pure chance. I'm sure even he partially expected someone to eventually beat it after lots of grinding- it was up for a long time. It gave us a cool end-story for Mario Maker anyways, so I don't feel he completely robbed people of excitement. Practically everyone's heard this story.
@Arassar
@Arassar 8 ай бұрын
I totally blame the guy.
@nhooj8882
@nhooj8882 8 ай бұрын
Right, like, it's still humanly possible. If there wasn't a deadline it really wouldn't be such a big deal. If someone does manage to beat it before the deadline then it'll be an even bigger achievement imo. And if they don't then it was TASed anyway, so it's mostly win-win. It's just a shame it wasn't revealed to be TASed sooner so that they had more time to grind for it.
@Electric0eye
@Electric0eye 8 ай бұрын
He might have had good intentions, no way to know. But he chose the worst possible time to come clean. It was a shitty thing to do.
@comfyghost
@comfyghost 8 ай бұрын
he even said "i know this is possible" and the fact there's still people grinding it shows they think it's possible too.
@EntitySteel
@EntitySteel 7 ай бұрын
@@Electric0eye No it wasn't lol. You're insane. Grow up.
@QuotePilgrim
@QuotePilgrim 8 ай бұрын
heh, before knowing how the TAS was done I wrote a comment on the unlisted video by TheRileyC, saying that the people who kept insisting a TAS would be impossible just didn't understand how relatively simple it would be to build something that worked at least well enough to upload a Mario Maker level, and that I wouldn't be surprised if multiple people have independently done that and just didn't tell anyone. That comment ended with something along the lines of "I bet you could do that with something like an Arduino".
@RaidFiftyOne
@RaidFiftyOne 8 ай бұрын
Okay time traveler tell me... how many lottterys have you won and please tell me what the next winning numbers are.
@QuotePilgrim
@QuotePilgrim 8 ай бұрын
@@RaidFiftyOne You literally can find the comment I'm talking about if you look through the comment section of that video. Why the heck would be lying about this? I gain literally nothing by doing that. Once you know the level was uploaded as a TAS, it's not that difficult to guess how it was probably done and get very close to the actual method. Even before you knew for sure it was a TAS, if you were one of the many people who suspected it was, you could probably come up with a method to do it that was similar to the method that was actually used. As I said I wouldn't at all be surprised if there are other levels that were TASes and the people who uploaded them simply never came out with that information.
@RaidFiftyOne
@RaidFiftyOne 8 ай бұрын
I meant it as a joke. Like as you whatched the video than went back in time and posted the other comment.
@QuotePilgrim
@QuotePilgrim 8 ай бұрын
@@RaidFiftyOne alright then
@FyrenRei
@FyrenRei 8 ай бұрын
this one is still such a bitter ending i know there's some people still trying, but it just feels hopeless at least the guy came out and admitted to it being TAS, yet i kinda wish he didn't, though it would've been a different kind of heartbreak nonetheless
@Avendesora
@Avendesora 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad it came out before the servers were shut down. It would have been a lot worse to find out after the chance to beat it properly was lost forever
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
​​@@AvendesoraBut now a whole bunch of people have declared "mission complete" and quit. If he'd kept quiet, more people would still be trying to finish the fight instead of shouting "we did it(if 0=1)". Odds of it being cleared are worse now for the announcement.
@Avendesora
@Avendesora 8 ай бұрын
@@CptJistuce You might want to watch the video again, because that's as bass-ackwards as you can get. People thought it was finished, and now that they know it wasn't, they're actually trying to beat it.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
@@Avendesora TTH was known about before this. It was considered a part of "0%" until it was revealed to have been botted. And now a swath of the community has decided it doesn't count. We are worse off, because EVERYONE considered it a legit part of the challenge before and now only SOME people do.
@Avendesora
@Avendesora 8 ай бұрын
@@CptJistuce People were already heavily suspicious, and we're finding more ways to catch cheated runs constantly. I wouldn't bet on no one ever figuring it out, especially since that was the goal he set out to accomplish, but maybe you're more of a gambler than me.
@vladspellbinder
@vladspellbinder 8 ай бұрын
7:03 This got to laugh. So thanks for that. It really is a shame "The Last Dance" didn't get to be the celebrated final level it should have been. Thanks for the video.
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 8 ай бұрын
We can say it was the true final level and the other level was the secret final level. I mean, why not?
@ngcf4238
@ngcf4238 8 ай бұрын
Wow that TAS arudino setup is crazy! I did NOT expect this video to go the way it did. I was expecting the usual "he claimed to clear this level but actually it was cheated" but then with TAS being considered impossible and then finding out it WASN'T impossible was an insane twist. Thanks Abyssoft I don't think I would have ever found out about this if it wasn't for your awesome channel. ❤
@ArchistYT
@ArchistYT 7 ай бұрын
2:30 "Flight of the maso chist" 😭 that pronunciation hurt my brain
@mr.whimsic6902
@mr.whimsic6902 8 ай бұрын
This Team 0 thing accidently became an April Fools prank
@SuperCrazf
@SuperCrazf 8 ай бұрын
I wish the brave souls still working on the last level the best of luck
@BaufenBeast
@BaufenBeast 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like someone actually managed to beat Trimming The Herbs, just in time.
@martymcfly88mph35
@martymcfly88mph35 8 ай бұрын
Its probably good that he didnt reveal his method early on, otherwise there'd have been tons of TAS levels uploaded that no one would be sure of.
@DeadCatX2
@DeadCatX2 8 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, too. Hardware hackers are harder to find than software hackers. Imagine if this had become widespread... a lot of records are not sus bc this guy kept his trick under wraps.
@WillACarpenter
@WillACarpenter 8 ай бұрын
The uploads have been done since 2017. so he's had 6+ years to come clean with no downside.
@WillACarpenter
@WillACarpenter 8 ай бұрын
@@DeadCatX2 That's only an excuse until the day the levels stopped being uploaded.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 8 ай бұрын
He could have revealed it anytime after March 31, 2021. That's about 3 years he had to do it
@3possumsinatrenchcoat
@3possumsinatrenchcoat 8 ай бұрын
​@@LilacMonarchat which point he'd long-since left the community, iirc. he couldn't exactly see into the future that 0% would be a thing, my guess is back then he figured it fell into the void of uncleared levels and no one would care, or he just forgot about it completely until people started figuratively breaking down his doors on SM about it
@dragonfluf
@dragonfluf 8 ай бұрын
flight of the massokists
@graciaman
@graciaman 8 ай бұрын
I cannot understand how people who speak for a living don't check how to pronounce words before making a video. He said the H in "herbs" too... oh god.
@baddestmofoalive
@baddestmofoalive 8 ай бұрын
@@graciamanc’mon man. Give the dude a break.
@DEMERN
@DEMERN 8 ай бұрын
@@graciaman erbcels in shambles. herbchads can't stop winning
@slothbin
@slothbin 8 ай бұрын
​@@graciamanthe irony. The vast majority of the world pronounce the H
@calebbro7902
@calebbro7902 8 ай бұрын
Pronounce the H in herb is just where you're from bro
@legend3454
@legend3454 8 ай бұрын
I do genuinely hope someone manages to clear it. Even if it was uploaded illegitimately, it will still linger in everyone's minds if it remains uncleared unless it's irrefutably proven to be impossible and not just almost impossible.
@Illdos
@Illdos 8 ай бұрын
Given how the upload was done, wouldn't it have to be possible? The inputs might have been preprogrammed, but physically there shouldn't be anything that prevents someone from executing them.
@legend3454
@legend3454 8 ай бұрын
@Illdos I would assume this is true, but I can't completely say for sure since I know some games do have TAS-only tricks. I would imagine MM1 isn't one, but I'd rather cover my bases, just in case.
@Illdos
@Illdos 8 ай бұрын
@@legend3454 As I understand it (and I could be wrong) a trick being TAS-only just means that it's too precise to be realistically attempted in a run. I would imagine that something like that would be far less if an issue when the task is to have any one complete the level just once.
@kingdweeb5065
@kingdweeb5065 8 ай бұрын
Tas only is just a way of saying we cant do it yet. For a long while, 0 star in sm64 was tas only. The level of precision is possible, its not like you need to buzz a stick left and right 60 times a second, its just way harder than people are able to do atm.
@av2279
@av2279 8 ай бұрын
@@kingdweeb5065 As I understand it, there are instances that a TAS will input at a rate of 60 times/second. Those instances are also called "TAS only," just like the ones that require something more "humanly possible," such as precision. So something being "TAS only" doesn't mean that it's something "we can't do yet." Sometimes it *does* mean it's not humanly possible. You have to research each use of "TAS only" on a case by case basis to see what it really means.
@troncositos
@troncositos 8 ай бұрын
With 2 days left... Trimming the wee- herbs has been completed
@gameandhike5844
@gameandhike5844 8 ай бұрын
IMO he probably didn’t expect it to take that long since Bombs 5 was thought to be the harder level and it fell within a few days . I bet the main reason he didn’t come forward earlier was because he wanted people to actually clear it and have the satisfaction of winning and never expected it to be the final level.
@jamesanderson6580
@jamesanderson6580 8 ай бұрын
Didn't realise Thabeast was this good at classic mario, he does an amazing series where he beats every nintendo 64 game ever
@pokepress
@pokepress 8 ай бұрын
And he means all of them.😉
@andy4an
@andy4an 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that's his most popular series, but I've always only watched him for Mario. I actually learned about team zero percent from him, as he's Long had an uncleared level series.
@antodouv
@antodouv 8 ай бұрын
It was a pleasure to be part of that team and clear 500 levels
@cal_818
@cal_818 8 ай бұрын
Dude hard modded the controller for this, that’s some dedication to troll in a impossible run
@lucasrittner
@lucasrittner 8 ай бұрын
I like how TTH is the extra secret quest after you beat a game
@MickeyRudy
@MickeyRudy 8 ай бұрын
Sanyx because the first legit human clear of TTH tonight.
@Kosmicd12
@Kosmicd12 8 ай бұрын
featured as the example of easy gameplay 😎
@sjn6112
@sjn6112 8 ай бұрын
that's really funny actually
@MrT3a
@MrT3a 8 ай бұрын
The best time to come out clean would have been the day the 0% initiative started "Hey people, hope you manage to do it. BTW, don't bother too much on my levels, I used a modified hardware setup to clear them, here's how it works."
@FUGP72
@FUGP72 8 ай бұрын
He wasn't following it. He had left the SMM community years ago. It was only after people actively contacted him when his was last that he had any idea it was happening.
@Ultimaximus
@Ultimaximus 8 ай бұрын
@@FUGP72 In the video, he says "I knew about Team 0% so I let things be until they would uncover it."
@jolangdale5386
@jolangdale5386 8 ай бұрын
7:04 "In addition to having more shells than an eighth place mario kart player," that *CRACKED* me up🤣🤣🤣
@1Psyblade1
@1Psyblade1 8 ай бұрын
Is there a database where people could look for the footage of any given level being beaten for this challenge? It'd be cool to look up your own levels to find people playing your levels.
@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
If you check out the team0% discord (google it, it should pop up) I'm sure someone there will have a resource that can help you
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 7 ай бұрын
Anyone who beats a TAS level should reward himself with natural sunlight.
@ScoutScoutScoutScoutScout
@ScoutScoutScoutScoutScout 8 ай бұрын
Sad to see such an accomplishment and nuanced situation being written down as a cheater scandal when doing tas on the WiiU at the time is such a major accomplishment and should be treated as such
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@notapplicable6985
@notapplicable6985 8 ай бұрын
Did he reveal it was TAS when submitting it?
@DeadCatX2
@DeadCatX2 8 ай бұрын
@@notapplicable6985 No, he revealed it a few days ago, after it had been on the servers for like over 6 years
@ThePenisMan
@ThePenisMan 8 ай бұрын
@@notapplicable6985 submit it where? When he uploaded the level to nintendos servers no, that was the point. Do you mean submitted to the list of levels being complete? Because he didn’t do that, the list isn’t submission based. The list is every Mario maker level ever made. Nobody “submits” levels to team 0
@Epic_C
@Epic_C 8 ай бұрын
I'm assuming that at the time of uploading it, there probably wasn't a thought that people were going to be absolutely gung ho on making sure every level was completed. It was essentially a troll level until people got so invested in it near the end.
@electroflame6188
@electroflame6188 8 ай бұрын
should've waited to make the video man
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 8 ай бұрын
That's cool to think my levels were technically a part of this history
@LUCKYCAT20
@LUCKYCAT20 8 ай бұрын
I literally had your channel open on my phone and it comes up a new video. I was so surprised when it showed 4 minutes ago. Love the content 👍
@TehAwesomer
@TehAwesomer 8 ай бұрын
8:11 - Wow, a THAB crossover! That was unexpected, but I guess it shouldn't have been, I just only watch his "Playing All The N64 Games, Yes, All of Them" series.
@stortsy8873
@stortsy8873 8 ай бұрын
Stoked to see THAB too, love that series.
@derpdee63
@derpdee63 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah he’s cracked at SMM, which is honestly all I know him for. He got first clear on two of the last 25 levels, and if I’m correct was only a couple hours short of getting first clear on The Last Dance
@timtanium7074
@timtanium7074 8 ай бұрын
8:40 if you scrolled down the list just a little bit more my name would be there 😭 But seriously, this is a fantastic video that goes over the facts super well, great watch.
@d2dominoes807
@d2dominoes807 8 ай бұрын
10 million levels in smm? I'm scared for what smm2 0% journey will look like haha
@mr_red3
@mr_red3 8 ай бұрын
Especially since levels aren’t deleted because they got too little likes in SMM2
@nickk3077
@nickk3077 8 ай бұрын
I am surprised with the millions of uploads that we didn't get more absurdly hard levels like the muncher stairs.
@ICharlyl
@ICharlyl 8 ай бұрын
"The skill of the community wasnt as high back then so it shouldn't be possible" Some people need to learn about Matt Turk
@Vlazeca
@Vlazeca 8 ай бұрын
Sponsor ends at 3:54
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 8 ай бұрын
Psst, get SponsorBlock. Unless I'm within the first 30 minutes of an upload, I don't see any sponsorships anymore. It's as essential as adblock is for the rest of the internet.
@tombrady1434
@tombrady1434 8 ай бұрын
they just need the controller mod to beat the level and voila! Jokes aside, the Mario games have a decade old history of "100%-TAS-only tricks being done by humans", so...
@FalconFetus8
@FalconFetus8 8 ай бұрын
Skip to 9:00 Holy shit, that's the biggest Wadsworth constant I've seen. I normally love your videos, but God damn you really took a long time to get to the point in this one.
@milcmilk
@milcmilk 8 ай бұрын
7:40 one must imagine Mario happy.
@psyk109
@psyk109 8 ай бұрын
That's just like a Mario player. "This level was completed with a TAS and is theoretically impossible." "But only theoretically......right?" *continues grinding*
@Starricane
@Starricane 8 ай бұрын
and then they actually beat it. insanity
@archmagusofevil
@archmagusofevil 8 ай бұрын
TTH is the monkey paw curling when Team 0% secretly wished for Trials of Death to not get cleared in time for an upload /s
@bradye21playsIndieHorror
@bradye21playsIndieHorror 8 ай бұрын
Someone finally used those little slots in the back of the WiiU gamepad... To feed wires through for TAS 😂 ... Imagine how broken the game would be though if this became common knowledge.
@lastwymsi
@lastwymsi 8 ай бұрын
ITS BEEN CLEARED. THEY DID IT!!!!!!
@jeluenhayo2410
@jeluenhayo2410 8 ай бұрын
Abyss, if your videos taught me anything it's that "If TAS can do it - speedrunners, eventually, can" :D So I won't be surprised if TTH will be cleared sooner or later as it's theoretically possible.
@lookas170
@lookas170 8 ай бұрын
theres much harder levels already beaten like trials of death
@jeluenhayo2410
@jeluenhayo2410 8 ай бұрын
@@lookas170 Good, it proves the power of collective humanity :D
@SnarkyLesbian
@SnarkyLesbian 8 ай бұрын
I'd argue the hardest level ever made in Mario Maker is "Trials of Death", but I suppose that couldn't be uploaded.
@Nikola_M
@Nikola_M 8 ай бұрын
Norway recently found a cheese that skips a lot of the challenge, which might make it no longer the hardest
@theimperfectionist3383
@theimperfectionist3383 8 ай бұрын
The Last Dance was the final boss, Trimming The Hedges was the secret boss.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile me as a casual Mario player be looking at this stuff like you guys are already using TAS for a legit clear. Seriously, the insane skill needed for a lot of these levels makes it look like TAS already existed a long time ago for Mario Maker.
@bucketslash11
@bucketslash11 8 ай бұрын
Trials of Death was uploaded before ChainChompBraden had successfully cleared it, though because it was cleared using hacks it would be sorted in the super-easy category which gives a very very low chance of running into one in endless mode, however they did not publically give out the level ID until he had cleared it first
@CallMekwech
@CallMekwech 8 ай бұрын
Excellent coverage of the topic, thanks for this!
@13Graham
@13Graham 8 ай бұрын
I wanted to elaborate that "nonono" actually goes by "Norway" much more commonly. great video!
@SMPandanic
@SMPandanic 8 ай бұрын
and now it has been OFFICALLY beaten
@lyrebird712
@lyrebird712 8 ай бұрын
I normally skip ads, especially those that I've seen a million times, but that segue was too good. Absolutely...brilliant!
@godlyBlade
@godlyBlade 8 ай бұрын
AI youtube channel will now upload a video titled: "We recently completed Mario Creator, however the last stage has an issue."
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 8 ай бұрын
"Difficulties encountered with the end course of Mario Builder"
@wideunicorn722
@wideunicorn722 8 ай бұрын
I really hope your channel blows up one day, you really deserve it ❤️
@danilobarcelos7307
@danilobarcelos7307 8 ай бұрын
I watched this video, and immediately Sanyx clears it, haha
@DIDeusIratus
@DIDeusIratus 8 ай бұрын
Such an insane level to the point I thought while watching some streamers attempt it was: "no human can clear this", only to end up being told this. It's kinda ironic, but I'm glad the guy came out about it
@lookas170
@lookas170 8 ай бұрын
some players can beat it, but many arent playing it anymore or just moved on
@D_Dupa
@D_Dupa 8 ай бұрын
WAIT HOW DID HE PRONOUNCE MASOCHIST?!?!
@RahidenChan
@RahidenChan 8 ай бұрын
Everyone mentions how The Last Dance didn’t get the spotlight it deserved because we’re too busy talking about Trimming The Herbs. And yet, content creators like Abyssoft and Riley are guilty of exactly the same thing: they say “oh yeah The Last Dance was the last level” without actually talking about it in detail and why it was the true final level. That’s the video I want to see!
@enthusigasmOSRS
@enthusigasmOSRS 8 ай бұрын
You should make a longer outro on the end of your video, not necessarily voiced over or anything but just like 5-10 seconds with video recommendations. I like when creators do this because it gives me time to like the video before it goes away on my TV. That being said, I came back on my phone to give you the like anyway ❤
@justintaylor412
@justintaylor412 8 ай бұрын
You’re a champ! I have the same problem
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 8 ай бұрын
yeah youtube's UI is trash so it's nice when the video gives you time to react before it automatically moves to another one.
@naejimba
@naejimba 8 ай бұрын
You know what? If humans beat the TAS level this will be an epic moment in gaming. Bring it on, I have faith.
@Zaurthur
@Zaurthur 6 ай бұрын
It amuses me that the response to figuring out a new way to TAS WiiU wasn't congratulations, but anger that he messed up their stupid self imposed challenge. Speed runners are the worst people.
@Rebelglow1
@Rebelglow1 8 ай бұрын
It's kinda fitting that the last level to beat in a mario game that hatched from ROMs is a TAS lol
@whamer100
@whamer100 8 ай бұрын
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm more impressed than upset at the fact TTH was TAS'd. I think its super cool that tas was possible, despite how inconsistent it apparently was. The arduino setup pictures look really cool too
@TheXell
@TheXell 8 ай бұрын
Building and programming a hardware setup just to prove that it can be done and troll people as a side effect. I angrily tip my hat.
@pillshatner6741
@pillshatner6741 8 ай бұрын
I don't buy the whole statement of this was the only level ever uploaded with tas or by illegitimate means. There had to be a way of doing it cuz there were levels on smm1 that legends in the community complained about. Always seemed kinda fishy to me and while I'm not as talented as beast or aura..ect I have still played so much kaizo/speed runs of sm64 my hands are permanently swollen and red with arthritis and can't even play things of that difficulty anymore 😢. Anywho did Nintendo find these levels I remember of being uploaded by illegitimate means and remove them or ????
@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
It is possible to hack a clear, for example surrounding an exit with hazards then hacking to get by them and complete the level for the upload, and Nintendo would remove those. This was entirely different, it's a just barely possible level for humans and not something out of the question of being done
@ChibiInuits
@ChibiInuits 8 ай бұрын
While very distinct from what Ayoho did, there are known instances of players using other sorts of tools to upload levels unrealistic for humans with a standard controller. One maker held a literal power tool against the right button on the dpad to upload a level where you have to climb across SMB1 vines absurdly quickly. He eventually confessed to this, and somebody beat his level using the same sort of tool a while later. There is also a level where somebody used a controller with programmable macros to upload a level in which the player must do 81 midair shell jumps in a row; for context, this is a difficult trick, and the biggest credible streak of consecutive midairs by a human is in the high 40s. Team 0% views these levels in pretty much the same light as it views TTH.
@alexrompen805
@alexrompen805 2 ай бұрын
Creator: Trimming the Herbs is impossible without using a TAS SANYX: Hold my beer....
@Aplay1O1
@Aplay1O1 8 ай бұрын
at around 0:45 you say TTH is the hardest level. thats not true, its one of the hardest levels. but there are plenty harder, even not counting Trials of death
@Abyssoft
@Abyssoft 8 ай бұрын
I will definitely acknowledge ToD.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
I think being the only unbeaten level gets it a reasonable claim at "hardest level".
@KingBoo97
@KingBoo97 8 ай бұрын
@@CptJistuce Weak argument, ToD for example is way harder, and other harder levels got attention much earlier and top players grinded them much earlier than this level
@samfsad9041
@samfsad9041 8 ай бұрын
0:44 "It's the most difficult level ever created in mario maker" Somewhere chainchompbraden is shaking his head sadly
@lookas170
@lookas170 8 ай бұрын
true trials of death is way harder
@vhoul
@vhoul 8 ай бұрын
Just thought I should point out that using a TAS to upload a Mario Maker level isn't immoral. It may be against Nintendo's terms of service, and the standards set by the Mario Maker community, but it's not Ahoyoo's fault that a bunch of people gave themselves the arbitrary goal of trying to beat every level in Mario Maker. Nintendo has every right to take the level down (just like they're taking down every other level) and the community has every right to exclude the level from their list. This isn't even a party foul, just some people getting mildly upset that one person didn't play by their rules.
@superzigzagoon
@superzigzagoon 8 ай бұрын
Surely having a TAS only verified run makes for the greatest boss ever?
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 8 ай бұрын
guy claimed it wasn't TASed, totally on him.
@jackatk
@jackatk 8 ай бұрын
Sure it’s not immoral, but it’s kinda obnoxious to create a level that’s designed not to be able to be beaten by humans
@vhoul
@vhoul 8 ай бұрын
@@polocatfanThis claim was not made in the video. However, Ahoyoo knew about team 0% and chose to wait to tell them it was a TAS. This is something that I missed in the video the first time through, which I will agree is kind of rude. There is a big difference between actively lying about something not being TAS, and passively not telling people something is TAS. That being said, until I am presented with evidence that Ahoyoo lied, I reject the claim.
@Wendy_O._Koopa
@Wendy_O._Koopa 8 ай бұрын
7:40 Looks like TMNT1 for the NES finally got a spiritual sequel.
@Lorekeeper_GGuy
@Lorekeeper_GGuy 8 ай бұрын
It’s really fitting that the final uncleared level of Mario Maker 1 was a troll
@Slimurgical
@Slimurgical 8 ай бұрын
Tbh clearing stuff with TAS-only tech is something that's happened before. Zero Master did it with E1M8 100% kills in Doom. He more used a simulator to find the only solution to killing everything in that level, but then did it himself. Given enough time, I have 0 doubt the skill of the Mario Maker community will prevail over TTH, but there are only 7 remaining days, maybe 6.
@NicoTheCinderace
@NicoTheCinderace 8 ай бұрын
TTH HAS BEEN BEATEN! I REPEAT, *TTH HAS BEEN BEATEN!*
@DeidaraIsTheBest10
@DeidaraIsTheBest10 8 ай бұрын
Update: It's done. Sanyx did it. The level has been beaten!
@SLZeroArrow
@SLZeroArrow 8 ай бұрын
Its so so hard that the game thinks its clearable yet nobody not even the GODS of Mario Maker can...god dayum.
@KingBoo97
@KingBoo97 8 ай бұрын
Many capable players stopped trying since it's not necessary to clear anymore and it wasn't very fun to grind for them. But some of the remaining players who are trying it can beat it, Sanyx is the closest one with a death at the very end
@rebornreaper194
@rebornreaper194 8 ай бұрын
This is so interesting, I don't want to go to work and just watch your videos all day. 😄
@Vidya1496
@Vidya1496 8 ай бұрын
So if they beat Trimming the Herbs, is it technically lower than 0% levels uncleared? 🤔
@geoffreybbrown
@geoffreybbrown 8 ай бұрын
Im just happy to see some King Boo love. With all the TTH hype it's easy to forget that maybe he was the only capable of taking on Beast Needle. Just an epic performance.
@MarcusMoore88
@MarcusMoore88 8 ай бұрын
Video starts at 8:55
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 8 ай бұрын
If you're a lazy quitter and probably the kind of person that thinks TTH doesn't count towards 0%. If you, on the other hand, believe 0=0 and not 1, the video starts at 0:00
@KawaiiDawn
@KawaiiDawn 8 ай бұрын
Trimming the Herbs has been cleared legitimately now, what an accomplishment by the community
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