They Tried to put Android in a Camera (Again)

[@snappiness]

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[@mattstone8878]

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[@snappiness]

@@mattstone8878 heck, it could be about cameras too! xD

[@cdl0]

"... Emily and _me_ ..." ;-) Nice video!

[@angeldust1732]

You should try blackmagic camera software on this!

[@BypassSupport]

Nos hubieras dejado lino de las fotos .DNG para descargarlas 😢

[@DakanFluff]

Funny enough - Android was originally intended to be an OS for digital cameras, not smartphones.

[@snappiness]

@@DakanFluff I have a video about that too :) what a crazy world it would be if that worked out!

[@xaypanyathipphavong2496]

The fact that many people might not know Android

[@annekedebruyn7797]

@@snappiness You should try to contact Zeiss to make a video about the now discontinued ZX1. It ran Android too and is such an odd system.

[@lenOwOo]

That navigation button is too much of clear sign ​@@xaypanyathipphavong2496

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

panasonic is ahead of its time

[@JoeHoddinott]

Fun fact: In the lifecycle of of Android - before it was called Android - it actually started out as a camera OS. It pivoted to be a Blackberry competitor until iOS came out then it pivoted to what it is today. So it's only fitting it ends up powerig a camera.

[@binchsoda]

The concept honestly seems underrated, imagine taking pics and editing them right there with a mouse and kb, or even a whole usb c dock with a screen

[@unn4medfeel1ng]

I imagine editing photos on a 5" screen and I don't want that

[@burnedmozzarella]

this is good for that "hey can you send it to me immediately?" type of client.

[@burnedmozzarella]

this is good for that "hey can you send it to me immediately?" type of client.

[@Old_Man_Jay]

@@unn4medfeel1ngyou don’t, but Fuji cameras let you do just that, albeit on a smaller screen and not as intuitively as this android camera so the interest is there

[@unn4medfeel1ng]

@@Old_Man_Jay yes I have to do that sometimes because Fuji don't let me send raw photos to my phone for some reason. This is especially annoying if you shoot raw only since you have to process every photo to jpeg on the camera to then send to the phone.

[@FilJR99]

Samsung should rethink their NX line. Their cameras were pretty good, I wonder what they would do now, ten years later.

[@rkgaustin]

From a business perspective Samsung is already one of the top two camera makers in the world. It's just inside a phone. The amount of R&D and manufacturing investment they'd have to make to also compete for the ever shrinking market share of cameras doesn't make sense.

[@tehemister042]

​@@rkgaustingiven that they barely spend R & D money for phones these days, they can sure spend for cameras if they want

[@ParanoidDharmas]

Nobody buys Camera every 2nd year, so not profitable compared to the smartphone 😅

[@velvetrooster5569]

I’ve got the Samsung Galaxy NX and it’s pretty awesome and I also have the Galaxy Camera and Galaxy Camera 2 which are pretty awesome cameras and on top of that I have the Samsung NX30 and Samsung NX500 and even the best of the best Samsung NX1 camera. I’ve also got several Samsung NX Lenses as well. I love my Sam cameras. They are awesome. I’ve been a huge fan of these cameras sense I started collecting them back in 2015. I even have the Samsung NX Mini which is a great little pocket camera better than the Sony RX100 line of cameras. I love Samsung cameras and I wish they would have kept making them. I’m planning of buying the NX 60mm lens soon then I will buy the NX 18mm to 200mm lens which will be awesome. I absolutely love my Samsung cameras. I wish would have made more Android based cameras.

[@umamifan]

Too niche for mass adoption

[@chrisbloom382]

I was saying a decade or more ago that camera manufacturers missed a trick. They should have immediately put internet connectivity into their products as soon as smartphone cameras started to compete.

[@thehobnob]

I wish Samsung had stayed in the game - I'd have loved a sequel to the Galaxy NX, maybe with a few more physical buttons/dials in addition to the big ol' touchscreen.

[@C20F]

Do smartphone cameras compete? News to me...

[@spacebary]

Absolutely agreed, they would have dominated the whole irl market at this point

[@nindoninshu]

@@C20F they compete in the sense that the average person no longer needs to buy any type of dedicated camera if they just want to be able to generally take pictures and shoot video

[@chrisbloom382]

@@C20F they destroyed the affordable compact camera market.

[@sleepingcattv]

Interesting use case: I've seen these in use at German drug stores, where they offer passport picture services. There is an app installed on there which guides the operator thru taking a correct biometric pictures, and immediately sends them off to the photo station for printing if the customer likes it.

[@carlod803]

Yongnuo really came a long way. Been using their flashes and LED lighting for years, just recently bought their impressive YN25 f1.7 for my Panny GX1 and I searched their catalogue and they have a ton of nice lenses. Now a m43 camera? BTW they also just recently released the YN17 f1.7 and I can see one in my future as well.

[@Espressomo]

That selfie camera might be useful for taking POV shots of you using your camera.😂

[@28_khz]

picture in picture would be sick lol

[@shira_yone]

But can both record at the same time? Doesn't seem like it

[@DonieCrick]

​@@shira_yonecan be done somehow, Is a feature wich i remember the Galaxy S4 has 10 years ago...

[@emperorfaiz]

@@shira_yoneThere are apps that you can do that like Dual Camera.

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

​@@shira_yoneMany phones are able to do it.

[@MaddJakd]

Could potentially be an "ultimate vlogger / solo 'creator'" cam in concept. An even better sensor and modern camera features and could be a win. Actually, seems like something Sony probably played with in the lab and tossed in a lock box lol

[@benjaminmccooey1000]

PL/EF mount would put it in Blackmagic territory and would be more versatile

[@MicroFourNerds]

This was such a fun project 🙌 it's a bit of a head scratcher this one, isnt it? I reckon a few generations in the future itll be super interesting. Great video as always!

[@fustigate314159]

Coming to watch your video next!

[@ElectronInc]

Literally watched your video this morning before catching this one in my thread.

[@brawler.decoy69]

U can't just let a video about a m4/3 camera slip away r u 😂that's why I follow ur channel

[@natedagreat90]

Great concept. Someone will eventually perfect them in the future. Full frame mirrorles cameras with the power and software of a modern smartphones is the next frontier in photography Only issue would be heat from that large sensor and all that power coming from the processor once they solve that its a feasible idea

[@akbarkamdar4906]

I've been super curious about it since its announcement, thanks for the review! It would be so fun as a pocket camera with M43 pancake lenses

[@trakkino]

no hotshoe is a dealbreaker

[@unbroken1010]

Yeah but you can do drag shutter at least

[@hillonhilers]

Usbc is its salvation

[@horrorlostplaces]

No stabilization, Bad Autofocus, wrong raw Images is no Deal breaker for you ?

[@iggytse]

The only reason I would use something like this is for easier live streaming to Instagram,Facebook or KZbin at staged events. For some reason these apps on a iPhone doesn’t let you select the telephoto camera. Also for quick photo upload to social media which I already do with a iPhone 12 Pro Max at events.

[@DmitryEljuseev]

A software/Android developer here :) The idea of having Android on a photo camera is great, but the devil is in the details. First, Android is very restrictive in providing hardware access to apps, so making integration with hardware buttons and controls can be tricky. Second, all in-camera UI (and probably algorithms) should be made again from scratch - good luck convincing Canon or Fuji to do this. Third, a hardware cost - I have a feeling that a CPU that runs Android smoothly is more expensive than most modern camera CPUs today. Fourth, do I need to pay for an extra SIM card on a camera? It does not sound like a great idea. Practically, the only features I miss on my Fuji XT5 now, are geo-tagging (having coordinates in EXIF), and (sometimes) sharing photos via WhatsApp or Telegram. Fuji solved it by having its own Android app that runs in the background on a phone, and it works well. Are they ready to redesign all, make new hardware, new UI, new code? Likely this will not happen, the development cost will be huge, and the outcome is pretty small.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

A dev would probably need some backend access to make better use of hardware features... which is probably stopping companies from making these. Google needs to do better in keeping android open source and easily modifiable, which doesnt include the crappy feature of preventing side loading (iykyk).

[@heraclito3114]

Why would you put a SIM card? Wifi is enough. Also if you are of the few people that would buy a dedicated camera nowadays, Android makes a lot of sense. Photo retouching software, Google photos or Amazon or cloud backups/syncing, photo camera software using a well-known and deploying apis instead of inventing your own shit .., Regarding the hardware access to apps it's not that grave. You could use gamepad controls like some Android consoles do.. A/B/XY cross and you can easily control the ui and your apps. Now you put a customized launcher and here we go!

[@methamphetamememcmeth3422]

AOSP

[@semirhuskic8028]

Only thing that would benefit is computational photography imagine Samsung apple or Xiaomi algorithms with big sensor hardware

[@Renegade1127]

@@heraclito3114 WiFi has limited range and you need passwords etc to use it, or all WiFi has to be open access. As for hardware access, that's why this camera uses Android - the touchscreen replaces physical buttons.

[@firstletterofthealphabet7308]

The channel signature comically adapted P110 lens back at it again

[@QuicknStraight]

I'd need some physical dials for key controls, such as mode dial, exp. comp., etc. Having to go into the menus to change those things would be really annoying. And then there's the serious performance issues...

[@tone_bone]

Years ago I would have killed for this but the fact that a lot of the newer cameras will let you easily transfer over photos I no longer see the point.

[@UNSCPILOT]

My 2016 Rebel T6 can send photos over wifi and NFC... and doesn't spam ads while I'm taking a picture, which that thing will given a year or two

[@POVwithRC]

@@UNSCPILOTYour 2016 T6 can do it slowly. It’s not special and its ability to do so poorly does not negate OPs point. I’m also not sure how you know this device will be spamming ads. Inside track?

[@UNSCPILOT]

@@POVwithRC the list of android devices, phones in general really, that don't spam ads is rather slim, and this camera is more phone than camera. And yeah, the Rebel T6 isn't the fastest thing ever but that doesn't negate that it can transfer, personally I usually dump images to my desktop anyway as with 400+ gigabytes of images most phones, even with a large enough SD card would be overwhelmed, especially for those of us that don't go all in on a flagship phone and the more affordable phones have... uninspiring performance. And, really, in Practice the Rebel T6 is a cheaper DSLR from 8 years ago with a 18mp apsc sensor, yet between it and this Android camera I'd pick it every time, even the lack of touchscreen actually has a benefit as it can rest against my chest while my hands are busy without changing settings accidentally, the OS only fixates on photography so no weird side issues can get in the way, and I can pick up decades of secondhand lenses for EF and EF-S mount. It's not even my best Camera anywho but I still love to use it, my Canon M200 out preforms it while still costing less, can use the same lenses as the T6 with an adaptor (looks hillarious with a 75-300mm zoom). I'm sure it's an interesting option for some, but personally I'll steer clear, there's probably good reason this concept keeps failing, and I prefer my photography devices be focused on only photography, else I'd just get the same overpriced phones as most

[@arseniysemin1361]

I actually really like the idea. Been hunting one for some time, but they're a bit of a pain to buy. Only thing I'd wish they change the design slightly, right now it looks like any other Chinese knock of toy product. + if the bootloader is unlocked this thing can become a real powerhouse with help of community.

[@ttajosefg4a152]

kid : you got games on yo phone? me : nah....i got some on my camera!

[@binchsoda]

Actually, since the screen flips up and theres a speaker, I wonder if this would make a perfect phone for video calls lol

[@warmoaran3]

Ngl, this has awoken something in me. Imagine only needing to bring your camera out with you, no need to bring your phone, because your camera does that too.

[@frankieinjapan]

While nothing beats physical dials and buttons, I could definitely find some convenience with having android baked into the camera. Putting in a sim and having everything back up to my Google drive in real time would be amazing haha

[@petepictures]

I am glad the Yongnuo picked up the great idea, and will revive it, for I am almost sure it was left for a very different reason, similar to a new RAW with every new camera, instead of all using DNG.

[@raitovin5200]

Does the app MotionCam pro (or demo) work on it ? because if yes you can try to record raw videos on it

[@blainemitchell]

Very cool concept. I like the fact that a third party can create an app that works better or gives the user a different layout.

[@SectorfiveYT]

Since this camera has internet via sim card, you can literally stream directly from a camera to your youtube channel, or have photos you take auto sync to your cloud drive for backup.

[@static-san]

One big reason it doesn't fly is that smartphone tech and camera tech move at such different speeds. Cameras tend to last and be usable a _lot_ longer than the typical lifecycle of a smartphone!

[@Jnewtonwright]

Where did you get that ape tax shirt?

[@ColtonMatocha]

Very interesting! I'm a fan of trying things and it's good to see some companies trying out new ideas! Or in this case, revisiting old ideas in a new way.

[@snappiness]

that's my perspective too. I just like different ideas, even if they shoot and miss sometimes.

[@4verageYTuser]

this is a cool concept for digital creators. being able to record in good quality then edit it on the device itself or upload the footage to a cloud storage

[@EHKvlogs]

good hardware of proper camera with algorithms and processing of smartphone, sounds great.

[@pauljensen5699]

While newspapers are basically gone and with photojournalists have been hit likewise, budding KZbinrs now have a camera for work.

[@ericlippe]

Honestly, I'm a huge fan. Especially for the price! I'm gonna have a hard time suggesting a rebel camera for $900 with its antiquated DSLR styles when a camera like this exists. It isn't to say dslrs aren't great (heck, I still use an SLR) but for a new photographer, this is awesome!

[@AbbasBinYounas]

3:23 someone's really cold 😂

[@verebellus]

i really want this as a novelty camera, not as a main camera but certainly a fun one to bring and share photos with friends

[@johnc_]

My guess is the new DJI/Huawei camera will be a very fancy smartphone with something like a micro 4/3rds sensor

[@bullettime2808]

A full frame sensor, better controls, RAW, color science and ergonomics, this concept could definitely work

[@naota]

Interesting. Maybe in a future someone could port blackmagic camera app to this device ant we'll have a new kinda blackmagic pocket cinema camera witch would be really pocketable

[@nattieCSH]

it may actually work okay being side loaded from apk mirror.

[@hokusai2165]

I could totally see using the NOMO CAM App with an adapted vintage lens on that.

[@chungdha]

Can you use blackmagic camera app on it?

[@sekkin6928]

I love this idea. This is successor of Zeiss ZX1. Very interesting. Looking forward to its HDR performance.

[@najved]

What ideally want is a smartphone with an apsc sensor and have a lens cap when not shooting, and when you are going out you just put on your favourite lens and go shoot

[@Renegade1127]

To use a bigger sensor the body would need to be much deeper than a smartphone. M4/3 lenses sit 19.25mm (3/4") away from the sensor.

[@najved]

@@Renegade1127 you could use these lens extenders that are on all sorts of adapters like if you adapt a mamiya lens to the gfx you get the extender

[@mahaddev]

So you can stream directly from your camera without the need for a computer?

[@corktail7900]

imagine this: you take out your micro sd card from the camera, plug it into your computer and suddenly you have 10 empty placeholder folders that arent assigned to anything by default and they come back after you delete them

[@ylzerb6188]

im just glad there are some new brands trying something new

[@esmail88]

stabilization is number 1 feature I look before buying any camera

[@SoUThCReATiOn]

I wonder how well will MotionCam Pro app work on that camera shooting raw cinema DNG... excellent video

[@thehobnob]

"No stabilisation, optical or electronic" - so the OIS on lenses with it doesn't work? (Edit to add: I kind of love this though, and would love to see how it improves with firmware updates over time)

[@PixelSheep]

Love seeing the Pentax 110 Lenses :D Love mine - thx again to DSLR Guide for the recommendation :D

[@spacebary]

this would be amazing for irl streaming

[@romank90]

I learned to love 2-3 physical dials for at least aperture/shutter and exposure offset for auto-ISO. If it had at least as much.

[@billybobthorton2026]

Motioncam and RAW recording would be awesome to test on this

[@serioustalkwithbhudax]

I'm just impressed how great and versatile Andriod is.

[@JohnPhelyno]

I see a compact streaming camera. I wonder if you can attach a usb video capture on it so it can have multiple camera

[@judobreakdowns7616]

For me, what would be great is basically my android phone glued to an RX 100 m7. It's still very pocketable, but much better image quality and ability to share and edit right away. Maybe this is where DJI pushes the industry?

[@GCKoerner]

Honestly, as someone who already has some good micro four thirds glass, I would dig this.

[@CharlieHickmott]

Imagine just bringing this on trip. You could call in to zoom meetings from anywhere with a cell signal, using just one device

[@schmellywittleidiot]

Would love to see a build of GCAM running this thing giving the full machine learning auto aligned night mode wizardry with the big beautiful sensor.

[@daleonov]

As someone who owned Sony QX10 ans QX1 smartphone cameras, I love the fact those smartphone/camera hybrids are still around. Would like to try this yongnuo!

[@InzamamulShaikh-567]

You need to test Motioncam on this camera!!

[@MashiroMartinez]

What about the Zeiss ZX1? That was the highest quality android camera ever made!

[@ricardoantoniogonzalez9724]

can this be used for phone only entries into a film festival? sound like an exploitable loophole

[@snappiness]

haha!

[@Апельсин-б4ч]

I think that detachable lens is how cameras and phones are separated

[@ArminHirmer]

nice idea... I still wait for the Alice :D and SwitchLens

[@rollingtroll]

Imagine being able to use the selfie camera for video while the other camera is used for photography. You can make an awesome photography vlog.

[@HelamanGile]

They need to start supporting autofocus larger sensor and more olpen cameras

[@adrafael2954]

Things like this make it more fun

[@FootballScoutsTV]

thanks for the upload, i will be buying this

[@patburns64]

I had the first gen galaxy camera. I loved that thing!

[@CaptRohmer]

Love this content. I figured in 2024 we could go out and buy smart cameras for cheap. Since they were a thing a decade ago, it’s only gotten cheaper and easier to build them. Yet, we have to do this or spend $5K on a pixi. Sensors aren’t expensive anymore. Anyone can code. A lot of people have 3D printers. This is frustrating lol

[@Quaabo]

Not to forget the Zeiss ZX1

[@unbroken1010]

That price is insane

[@zagohcap]

Could you imagine what could be achieved if a big name in the camera industry went in with this idea? All the processing capabilities and features with an actually decent sensor would be awesome.

[@TaylorPassofaro]

Did MotionCam work with this? That app uses a different raw pipeline than other apps so you might get better raw files from it, olus if raw video works that would be sick!

[@lachopakapura]

Great review, dose it have hdmi out?

[@nikytamayo]

When you say it doesn't give 20mp with third party apps, does it give half or crop in? May come down to Camera API2 implementation, if the canara defines 20mo as high res mode and sets the lower resolution as the default (see this happen on phones)

[@hereisalex]

I just got the Galaxy Camera 2 on eBay. I love it because I can still send the photos over wirelessly to my Z Fold

[@hereisalex]

Granted it's still running Android 4 😂

[@OriginalTLab3000]

I almost didn't recognize you without the backpacker 😜 I have one, too.

[@snappiness]

Haha - I had to reframe the shot because I'm replacing that window so the office is a mess. It's a fun guitar :)

[@garrywatters1140]

My interest piqued when you mentioned micro 4/3. I might just buy one of these as I have several Olympus lenses.

[@chrisproductions6262]

As an amateur nature photographer, I like this as a backup camera when I don’t have my big bulky DLSR Camera

[@Alex_564]

It would be cool to see if you can run the Google/Pixel camera app with algo working in this to see how it does. Or with the Lightroom camera app & their HDR option, which if I remember correctly works in raw too,

[@MrScottsivertson]

Retro Bowl …. now you are top tier

[@ofthenearfuture]

I think this is cool, and glad some companies are still trying it even if the results aren't great lol, as I'm curious to see Gcam/computational photography implementation on larger sensor/interchangeable lens bodies. Cause I think hardware progress is plateauing, like every camera made within the last ~10 years is good enough for 90% of photographers, so software could be the next area of innovation.

[@TkeMedia]

What lens mount do they use? Anything i can get an adapter for?

[@markattardo]

Cool camera and chair!

[@AMZtechofficial]

What camera model is featured in this video? I'm looking to replace my camera and am interested to see how well this integration functions.

[@Duckstalker1340]

Can it do semi-pro camera features such as burst shooting with continuous focus? What about eye detect autofocus?

[@akakabira]

Install a custom ROM and gcam in it and test the performance of the camera then

[@MoChuang343]

I wonder if a 1” sensor and inter changeable lens system would work as a smartphone standard. Like out of the box you get a 25mm pancake prime but you can buy bigger better glass if you want.

[@sovograf]

no stab in micro43 is something I didnt expect

[@FAT8893]

I definitely want one but with updated M43 sensor and newer Snapdragon chip. I'd be so happy if Yongnuo can put Snapdragon 8 series chip in it.

[@KarlDomning]

Now do the Zeiss Zx1. The Leica Q of Android cameras.

[@sergep71]

If you're able, see if you can get a hold of a Motorola (post lenovo) phone like an X Pure or a G7. The photo app interface looks very familiar to me.

[@jimzielinski946]

Im not sure about using Android as a camera operating system, but id like to see camera companies (particularly Pentax), consider either opening up developer access to their cameras (via API's?) or open sourcing their OS and drivers (like a pc) to allow hobbyists and developers to come up with ideas they would never think of.

[@leadwhite1249]

I own a z-cam in part because it has a pretty robust API.

[@yusheng4637]

I think the rear facing camera is useful for vloggers. Many vloggers have to use two equipment, one facing the subject and one facing themselves when shooting. So if this camera can capture videos and photos from both front and rear at the same time, it would be cool!

[@kaypochi1516]

4:40 I guess maybe the front camera was there so that let say someone want to review something they can use dual camera function to show the subject and also their reaction

[@lucky_dejesus]

Wondering if you can get the blackmagic camera app on there.

[@techzillaro]

Sony has some Android Fork on A7 cameras

[@nooneisback]

This is definitely what most new digital cameras will be like in at most 5 years. People expect modern cameras to be able to record 4K videos, and as things progress, 8K will probably become at least somewhat prevalent. SoCs capable of that performance have no issue running latest Android and it also makes releasing updates much easier.

[@TheGingester]

Oh wow, you finally got one.

[@xmeda]

If they make the grip smaller and add roller or two, it will be interesting camera.