Death in Belgravia: What Became of Lord Lucan? by Mark John Maguire

On the evening of the 7th November 1974 a woman wearing only her nightdress ran into the Plumbers Arms pub in Lower Belgrave Street, screaming that her nanny had been murdered by her husband. The woman was Lady Lucan and her husband was the 7th Earl of Lucan, who has been missing since that fateful evening 45 years ago. The mystery of the events of that evening and of what became of Lord Lucan have never been solved... What became of Lord Lucan?

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

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[@hirepgym6913]

He wasnt using the Corsair2000E to move her body the plan had been to put Veronica;s body in her Brown DAF car and Greville Howard to hide it for two weeks then set fire to it in Epping Forest claiming Gypsey;s did it, the DAF has never been found in fact thePolice never looked for it.

[@MsDormy]

He was the unluckiest man in London that night.... but not as unlucky as the young woman who had swapped her night off.... poor Sandra

[@williamrae9954]

He got away with it,until he either died, or was murdered in West Wales...depending who you believe, he never left the country though, lucky?

[@jackpayne4658]

I have enjoyed this series very much, but there is something here which leaves me uncomfortable. If (let us imagine) Lord Lucan had instead been a lorry driver who gambled money he didn't have on the horses, and who killed the teenage babysitter who he mistook for his wife after losing a custody battle - would he have received such a respectful hearing? Would he be characterised as 'troubled', a man who risked high stakes and lost? I somehow doubt it.

[@jillbowler3292]

Couldn't agree more.

[@susannahhunt1831]

I agree with you, but unfortunately the Justice System is to do with class.

[@joanfordham1305]

Absolutely but justice will ever be Étonné away

[@greta9558]

the narrator also called his wife "cold".. COLD?... COLD IS BLUDGEONING SOMEONE TO DEATH WITH A LEAD PIPE !

[@gertanckaert3023]

and imagine if he was a black man in America.

[@colderwar]

" the insolence of failure, when success was his birthright " - what a line, well played....

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Ah thank you - happy accidents with words!

[@nickeldridge9454]

@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I thoroughly enjoyed the video ... it seems that just because someone is born into the British aristocracy and is 6' 4'' in stature he is not necessarily as 'strong' a person as you would think ... maybe aristocratic inbreeding produces these people who let down the Image of 'goodness' and 'Britishness'. You have apparently accepted that the most likely reason for Lord Lucan's disappearance was suicide in the Channel somewhere off Newhaven ... but have you ever had any interest in the filmed interviews with Aspinall's secretary in which she describes how she was asked to book flights for Lucan's children to ex-colonial locations in Africa (I think it was Kenya) ? The idea being so that the self-exiled Lucan could see his children from time to time as they were growing up. The story was that the children were accompanied on these flights by a 'minder' who was charged with the task of taking the children to particular locations at arranged times ostensibly so that Lucan could see the children while not being seen by them ... he would watch them secretly while they were eating cakes and drinking tea on an hotel balcony. Have you found any reasons to discount 'evidence' of this sort ? .... it would be hard to think of any other reason for these strange flights for the children described by Aspinall's secretary. Perhaps you have heard something about her testimony that I have missed ?

[@pooooornopigeon]

@@fuzzamajumula He was seen ganbling in South Africa, his friends had huge estates there and his son now lives there.

[@v8infinity8]

Wonderful. When I heard that- I thought of Prince Harry!!

[@ElledieWildAndFree]

@@v8infinity8 Why?

[@cynthiaarons9373]

Beautiful narration! I wish every reporter or narrator spoke and narrated like this narrator - articulate and calm.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you, Cynthia!

[@QueenBee-gx4rp]

They Got Away With Murder And so very well written! Your drawings are terrific as well.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

@@QueenBee-gx4rp Thank you very much - I'm delighted you liked it!

[@gg79139]

What a story! Add to that the melodic tenor to your voice. The sad resignation of their lives resonated through your narration. The facts. He killed the nanny. The countess did what she had to do or find herself in the same condition as the nanny. Well written.

[@autumnt.allgood8895]

YES INDEED. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND EVERY WORD. HIS VOICE DOES NOT PUT YOU TO SLEEP OR YOU ARE CRINGING TO MAKE OUT THE WORDS. WHAT IS THE NARRATOR ?

[@nonosays]

Astonishing analysis, and most probably exactly what occurred. Bravo! One thing, though- I do not agree that Veronica Bingham was cold, only that, as she said herself once in an interview, "her relationships were cold". She was looked down upon by his aristocratic friends and family. Her neurotic personality was no more so than most of the women who's circle she moved in. She was unloved and much sinned-against. She was attacked and not believed by her own family, thereby losing her health and her children forever. Lady Lucan was no saint, but along with Sandra Rivett and her family she deserves all the sympathy in the world.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you Noelle, for your kind comment and thoughtful analysis. Yes, perhaps the character of Lady Lucan is not as cold as I represent it - I saw her regularly in Belgrave Road in the 1990s and formed a view of her which, given that she had been through a great deal by then, was probably an unfair assessment!

[@denisepaulsenful]

I don't think Lady Lucan was after any sympathy. I believe compassion and understanding were more fitting.

[@ria1636]

This narration is like a biased bad novel but I do agree with your comments regarding Lady Lucan.

[@addie_is_me]

Unless you are the shows writer.

[@mariamjehn7071]

I just discovered this story..my heart breaks for Lady Lucan and the Nanny...very sad...

[@sassandsavvy007]

His story has always intrigued me. I do not think he really cared so much for his children but I see he used them as a weapon. If he had loved them he won't have planned the murder of their mother in their home with them upstairs which bore the risk one of them might walk in to a murder scene with his father killing their mother. He was cold as a fish except for his own feelings. Even at large and running out of time he kept on scheming and deceiting to make his wife's life hell and rile the kids against her. This man, highborn as he may be was nothing but a psychopath, addicted to gambling and cheating himself out of the responsibilities of life. I too think he took his life, a newspaper photo doesn't convince me he had successfully fled. He was a gambler and he'd always appear at the gambling tables somewhere had he lived. My sympathies are with his wife who had nerves as thick as the lead pole he used, to trick him and get away to find help. As well as I think of the children who have to live with all this. Thank you for your murder stories. They are perfectly presented and very interesting to listen to. 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you, Lisa!

[@laurielovett8849]

Strange that lady Lucan has not spoken to her children for years. And they always believed their dad was innocent. Lady Lucans story is do fishy, I think Lady Lucan was having an affair.

[@Tina06019]

@@laurielovett8849 I really don’t care if she was shagging his best friend, the grocer’s boy, and the vicar, she never murdered anyone. I did see an interview with her once, and she did seem odd, but I still don’t think her the villain of the piece.

[@mariarobles9116]

I think that, too. Incredible that some women better side with the killer psycho, but not the victim ​@Tina06019

[@sassandsavvy007]

@@laurielovett8849 What does it matter whether or not she had an affair? It doesn't justify anything her husband did to her. I can't say, she's the kind of person I'd want for a friend but that doesn't mean it's okay to harm her or her children.

[@ElGibby]

Brilliant narration as always, you have a very calming voice! What always get to me about this case is that Sandra Rivett has become a brief footnote in her own death. When this story is told, most people focus on John Bingham, who, let’s face it, was an overprivileged manchild with more money this sense, not that he really had much of either. And the focus is on him. Ooh, where is he?. Australia? The moon? Did John Aspinall feed him to the tigers? Who cares!! For me, it’s not about him. It’s about Sandra Rivett, who was 26 years old when she was murdered and has never had any kind of justice. Oh, and neither has her son, who was, very young when is mother was murdered. But no, folk see money and privelege and titles and all that nonsense and think it means something. Whereas Sandra Rivett. was ONLY ‘the help Oh, and Aspinall Susan Maxwell, etc needed locked up too for lying to investigators and hindering an investigation. So much status and elitism and for what? John Bingham is, was, whatever - a vile, creepy, probably-inbred wee scumbag who was protected by his family title. He really does make me sick. SANDRA RIVETT IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD ALWAYS MATTER MORE. ALWAYS.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you, Anne

[@onefeather2]

Well said. But it seems it is never about the victim .

[@Monica_Baja]

I couldn't agree with you more. Sadly it seems, in these more "sensational" cases, or unsolved or wrongfully freed suspects, the focus is so often taken off of the victim(s) and their loved ones .. who paid the ultimate unthinkable price (often for generations) .. I pray she at least is resting in peace, surrounded in the afterlife with those who loved and missed her. 🙏🏼🕊️♥️🕊️🙏🏼

[@notsurewhattobelieve2990]

A son ? :(

[@PointNemo9]

People don't care about his privilege or titles, they are fascinated by the mystery of his disappearance.

[@susanrochford1906]

His wife had great sadness in her eyes, she looked like she had been through a lot of pain since the day the nanny was murdered! She truly needed her children around her, and love and kindness!

[@phillipaevans4874]

I really feel for her, nobody should go through what she did. It affected her a great deal, her relationship with her children completely broke down. They were cut out of her will, it's such ashame x

[@jacquelinemcgee6389]

You're all assuming she was telling the truth. Lynch mob much, when Lucan is unable to defend himself against her version of events. She did it after she found out the nanny was helping Lucan with evidence of her instability to obtain child custody. "Lord Lucan my husband my truth," Check out this documentary. She rings totally untrue. One can only put it together when you realize how she stitched him up,

[@phillipaevans4874]

@@jacquelinemcgee6389 To believe Lucan, I would have to believe his version of events. Lucan said that he just happened to be walking past the house in Belgravia, glance into the basement window and saw his house keeper fighting off an attacker. He then intervened, she died he ran off in his blood splattered car, which was later found abandoned. Mrs Lucan then thought ooh here is a chance to stitch the bastard up, I will run screaming to the local pub and scream murder. During this time, Lord Lucan chose not to check on the well fare of his children, despite witnessing a murder. The man ran, wrote various letters to friends, claiming his innocence and stayed away from his children forever. The wife is 100% odd at best, maybe mentally unstable at times throughout her life, but I don't believe for a second that she left her children upstairs, go downstairs to find/kill the nanny. Run to the nearest pub hysterically screaming, my husband tried to kill me Lord Lucan ran away from it all, an innocent man would stay and protect his children.

[@tracesprite6078]

@@phillipaevans4874 Neither of them were particularly close to the children.

[@simoncullum5019]

@@phillipaevans4874 Lucan tried to have her sectioned

[@ronmac9522]

Its sad that the murder of an innocent woman has been reduced to a passing thought. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope that her family has been able to move on.

[@suziecreamcheese211]

I hope they were compensated.

[@gertanckaert3023]

wrong place? the home where she worked? wrong time? anytime, except when she might be out, from HER home? ...love how u frame that...how about...He was a no good, entitled toff, who felt justified in committing murder , for the convenience of his choices....what is one more woman, dead ?

[@notnek202]

Lady Lucan has said her greatest regret was that Sandra Rivitt died because of her troubled marriage and says she thinks of her every day.

[@ladydelahaye]

I found out Sandra gave a son up for adoption a few years before she was murdered . He found out as an adult she was his mom 😔 RIP Sandra and lady Lucan.

[@eoindee7007]

May poor Sandra Rivett rest in peace. Beautiful lady ❤.

[@user-ev4ie2wx7k]

Did you know her?

[@missapk]

@They Got Away With Murder & Fellow Mystery Fans: I watched an interview w Lady Lucan done not long before her death. She related how deeply troubled he was after loosing 8K in one night late in 1963. According to her, they'd only had 9K at the time - which was the 9K insurance payout he'd just gotten for the racing boat he'd recently sunk. The 1K they had left was less than what he typically spent in 1 month (or, obviously, on any given night) & the irresponsible gambler was uncharacteristically worried about his financial straights. What struck me was that his father died just 6 weeks later at the age of only 65, solving Lucky's financial difficulties. Has anyone other than me wondered if Lucky might have done for his dad as well as for the nanny? PS - The Lady Lucan interview was well worth the watch, for those interested in this story, and it's here on YT. IMO, she came across as quite credible and sympathetic. The speculation regarding his father's death is mine, it was not insinuated in her interview.

[@hirepgym6913]

Couldnt trust Veronica any further than you could throw her

[@takohamoolsen2432]

Yes, I have seen the Lady Lucan interview. Very interesting indeed. One thing I want to mention and I may well be panned for it is.....is it possible that Lady Lucan herself killed Sandra Rivett? On YT there is an interview with Lady Colin Campbell and she herself makes this allegation. Lady Colin says that Veronica Lucan believed Sandra and her estranged husband were colluding together to have the children taken away from her and may have possibly been having a fling as well. And then....well, we all know the rest. Something to think about. @They Got Away with Murder...let me know what you think.

[@MsDormy]

@@hirepgym6913 I'm sorry you feel like that - I think she had a raw deal, and that whatever poor decisions she made she has well paid for them.

[@rosemarie20]

I agree with you. And it was my first thought of his father's death so quickly after his financial loss, that it might have been Lucan's first murder.

[@gabriellew.4847]

Interesting proposition.

[@carolking6355]

This has to be one of the most intriguing mysteries in the last 100 years. Poor Veronica must have become how they describe as cold or remote just to hold on to the man she loved. He must have loved her to marry her. Her nanny liked her. What a rotter Lucan was. Gambling was all he cared for. . My heart goes out to this little lonely person. Why did her children abandon her? I watched her interview. I’ve watched several docs. I just feel sad for this lonely little woman.

[@petitpois8813]

The children are brainwashed & believe their father was innocent & mother was crazy.

[@carolking6355]

@@petitpois8813 thank you. I felt so terribly sad for the for woman. If only the children could have learned to think for themselves. Genes have a lot to do with it possibly. Those children seemed so cruel I cried for the sad little lady. Bless you 🥰

[@TheLordLucanCase]

She was abandoned as her children and brother in law William Gibbs did not like the fact that she had given evidence against her husband, convicting him of murder in his absence. he then could not return, as he had planned to.

[@cathyrussell7157]

carol king - yes, very sad about her children.

[@laurielovett8849]

Her children didn't abandon her, she lived rent free in an apartment provided by her children. Its Lady Lucan who has refused to speak to her children for years

[@morriganwitch]

This story illustrates and is symbolic the old boy network in all its patriarchal dysfunction , where women were brood mares or tarts , and the ranks remained closed . Thank you xxx

[@jasonjason7277]

ahh the good old days

[@wendyharris8026]

It may equally illustrate the old school gentleman protecting the reputation of his unstable wife, who in a fit of jealous rage, killed the attractive young nanny, whom she suspected of becoming involved with her husband. See how that works?

[@morriganwitch]

@@wendyharris8026 I do see tho if she did , and he realises this he would do the protective thing and get the treatment she needs ? Not just leave her there with the children .

[@brynstarkiller7419]

Veronica got a real shit deal and was a very unhappy lady .She didn’t deserve the rep she got .

[@missbingley6048]

Lady Lucan died in 2017 aged 80. She was found dead in her Belgravia home which was the area of the murder. Estranged from her children and having not spoken to them for 35 years apparently and had not met any of her grandchildren. Sad. Though i have since read, her children attended the funeral.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Yes indeed - there is no real upside to the story. I recall I used to see Lady Lucan around SW3 where she continued to live, during the 1990s when I worked in Buckingham Palace Road.

[@mickykedian7753]

She never died at the address this crime took place. She resided in a mews cottage at the rear of Eaton Square which, despite being valuable was in a state of dilapidation.

[@dukenukem5768]

In 2017 she was not living in the house where the murder took place. She was in a less expensive mews house, but in the same area.

[@changeintheair9648]

Well, Lord Lucan's mother took the children right away. So I imagine they were poisoned against her as they grew.

[@tinameyer7080]

I would have made arrangements to be buried privately and my children would NEVER be gifted with knowledge of my resting place.

[@felixthecat3n2]

2:33: Such a wonderfully beautiful young lady.. I feel very sorry for Lady Lucan.. She deserved far better from her husband and her children.. RIP Lady Lucan.

[@jonathancollier7024]

Yes I totally agree 🤞🤞

[@petitpois8813]

Her grown children are nasty. Brainwashed by the shand-kyds, horrible people. I hope thier late mother, haunts them when they sleep!

[@alarmactionukalarmactionuk893]

I feel more sorry for Sandra. Veronica should of warned her knowing how volatile her husband had become.

[@mydogky]

@@petitpois8813 dare say her son is poncing around in the House of Lords what an awful family that poor soul had to endure her family should be bloody ashamed of theirselves what a despicable bunch the so called elite are

[@kgraham5820]

Here on YT there is an excellent interview done with Lady Lucan in her later years recounting the events. It’s worth a watch if you have a chance. When asked what she thought became of him, she said she thought he committed su*cide afterwards by boarding a ferry and jumping into the ocean, in the English Channel. She also comments on her relationship with her children, which was no relationship with any of the three. Quite a sad story really... one that starts out full of promise and ends with only tragedy. Most excellent topic, thank you.

[@cathyrussell7157]

Lord Lucan was substantially aided by family and friends following telephone conversations which took place, firstly at his mother's house a short distance from Lady Lucan's home in Belgravia. After that he drove to Uxbridge where his visit was anticipted, via phone calls, and was admitted into the home of Susan Maxwell-Scott. Further phone calls were then made from Uxbridge - and decisions made between a few parties, which were solidified into a plan of action. Lucan drove to Newhaven and parked his car in Norman Street. All incriminating stuff was deliberately left in the borrowed car - therefore no attempt was made to make him appear innocent. Lucan was picked up and taken to, "another port". Thereafter, he was afforded the greatest of care, and was escorted via circuitous routes, including several Greek islands, until he arrived - four months later - in Portuguese Angola. There is an extremely large private estate in Angola which enjoys the highest security around its perimeter. Here, Lord Lucan lived, in obscurity, as far as the Public were concerned, entertaining his closest friends and colleagues until the end of his natural life, having escaped British Justice, protected by his Aristocratic friends. In, I believe 1999, Sir James Goldsmith facilitated Lord Lucan's son Charles Bingham, (named after him), to The Lordship. So Charles Bingham Junior took on the Lucan Title. Another couple of items of information which may interest you: Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall is a 'Shand' by birth and is extremely closely related to the Shand-Kid family, (cousin). Sir James Goldsmith is the man who over-saw Lord Lucan's safe escape and oversaw the rest of his life in comfort. Sir James Goldsmith's daughter, Jemima Goldsmith, (who married Imran Khan who was then just a Cricketer), was a very close friend of Diana Princess of Wales and accompanied her on a tour of Pakistan when Diana was mightily in love with Haznet Kahn a Heart Surgeon who worked in London. So much happens which is obscured in plain sight. A day or so after the murder of the Nanny at Lady Lucan's residence, I was told by "a" Chief Constable, (several Counties involved), that in HIS opinion, Lord Lucan was eaten by the fishes .......he thought that would be believed by the general public. I told him the 'those fishes might fly'.

[@hamerjohn]

Uckfield Sussex not Uxbridge

[@cathyrussell7157]

@@hamerjohn Yes.

[@MrRugercat45]

How do you know all this? This is fascinating.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Your just about right, They got him out, Saved by the establishment of the establishment

[@athenaf8278]

Fascinating and believable in my opinion… the fact that the children were distanced by the family from their natural mother has always been a clue piece for me and that they were raised by Lucan’s mother. It’s quite possible that at least his son knew of his father’s existence and has been haughty in response to any questions regarding his father. Also why would the children attend their mother’s funeral after not speaking for 35 years? It’s all extremely odd.

[@heatherallingham7120]

The poor wife seems to have been vilified for her mental condition. it sounds more like he was driving her to madness with his lifestyle which probably worried her as a mother of three. Can't imagine what it must have like for her to be married to this clown.

[@j.j.w.6431]

Besides being a great writer you are a captive storyteller that holds your audience to the very end. I am glad to have discovered your youtubes. Thank you for saving me from boredom during this CCP virus.

[@rodericksloan1255]

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[@1rjbrjb]

"The insolence of failure when success was his birthright". Lapidary.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Hahaha! Thank you very much, Robert!

[@colderwar]

Lapidary is a pretty good turn of phrase too. Bravo.

[@PetroicaRodinogaster264]

Shand Kydd also had another famous association. For 19 years his older half-brother Peter was married to Princess Diana's mother, Frances, after her divorce from Earl Spencer

I used to go fishing with Peter in Inverness...Nice bloke....but lousy angler.....

[@g.ecoleman5910]

She was Camilla Shand. Not Shand-Kydd

[@maggiemae7539]

@@g.ecoleman5910 Diana’s mother was married to Peter shand kydd. Nobody was discussing Camilla

[@pamelacorbett8774]

Thank you! Beautifully written, a pleasure to hear. I don’t think he killed himself, but my husband says how do you start again with no money? And yes I think his friends did help, i.e. the gent who destroyed the envelope of the letter he had from Lucan. Poor Sandra, the nanny, the unluckiest of all, she gets short shrift!

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you, Pamela - yes, poor Sandra really was terribly unfortunate to be caught in this situation. His death is, of course, as with all of these documentaries, only my opinion. Thank you for yours!

[@adriangilbert2390]

The boat theory doesn’t stack up. If he bought a boat their would be a record of a sale to either Mr J Bingham or an Earl. The publicity would have triggered someone s memory. Secondly, boats don’t just sit around in harbours. A mooring is allocated paid space. If a boat goes missing it is noticed and if there is any suspicion a search will be carried out to look for the wreckage or survivors. There was no notification of a missing boat from Newhaven on that day. I suspect that his gambling friends also had connection, willingly or otherwise, to organised crime who in turn would have interests in drug smuggling. Therefore helping a fugitive escape to the continent in the back of a lorry from Newhaven wouldn’t have been difficult to organise. He could have been in Marseille within 36 hours and in Africa within 48. He was a coward who couldn’t face prison, let alone face committing suicide. He could have spent all his days playing cards with the inmates and been out in 15 years, with his connections. Instead of face the music like a man, he ran away! Coward!

[@gertanckaert3023]

lol...how do you start again with no money? ....many people do this all the time...what nosebleed section of society r u from?

[@stuart8663]

@@gertanckaert3023 no need to be rude.

[@gertanckaert3023]

@@stuart8663 pardon me.....what was your financial status when you came you came into to this world? is that more acceptable, but still accurate? .....my too many years living close to the poverty line, making my way in this world, has left me with some hard edges, that you might never experience in a more genteel environment....the dramatization of this story really had an impact on me, when Lucan , in the most polite civilized manner asks his wife, if she would mind taking an overdose. The irony of what he is doing , and how he is trying to do it, is a great example of extreme sexist, chauvinistic attitudes, deeply bred into patriarchal society.

[@jeremypearson6852]

The guy’s guilty as sin, if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have run. He wouldn’t have left his kids behind. Shame on his friends if they really were complicit in aiding his escape.

[@Tsumami__]

I wonder if the children turning away from the mother had anything to do with them forming a relationship with their on-the-lamb father later in life.

[@tonynightingale4400]

Excellent story telling , I remember reading this as it happened in the papers . I am with you on your theory of the small boat and suicide. Again very much enjoyed your narrative. I have just subscribed to your channel...and thank you .❤

[@judykizler4056]

Excellent script-writing, research, and delivery. What a documentary should be. Thank you for restoring my faith in KZbin.

[@steveosullivan5262]

I was stationed in England around the time of this case. While I must agree with your conclusion, it was not the thinking of the time. My friends at Cambridge, were convinced he was in South and Central America. He had all the connections. Karma, I hope decided his fate. Well done story, beautifully told.

[@TheKulu42]

Sometimes, I wondered if Lucan could have successfully run off, but I think your theory of the events behind the murder and his flight fit the evidence well. He had a murder weapon and a spare one ready, he had a bag for the body and he had a borrowed car. I think you're right about all these factors pointing to careful planning. I think you're right about Lucan having a boat ready, too. I wondered about the boat, but I think he could have borrowed it from an acquaintance or rented it. When the boat's owner saw the newspaper stories about the murder, he feared being accused of aiding Lucan and decided to keep quiet.

[@adambartlett7955]

I've been specifically searching for a channel like this for a while now but my searches came up with nothing (other than Murder Maps, which I really liked). Then today, this channel fell right into my lap when I just let autoplay do it's thing. My search is over YAY

[@BibleBelieverUK]

I’ve been watching a lot of them. I like how they are not affected by rash feelings or emotive judgement. It sounds like a prosecutor or judge quietly discussing a case.

[@adambartlett7955]

@@BibleBelieverUK hah true true. I Think, in the 19th, early 20th century, circumstantial evidence might have had a bigger impact on juries. I think at least

[@JohnSmith-nu9jz]

Excellent presentation, with great detail. However, I can't agree that Lucan took his own life - narcissists rarely do. He strikes me as a person who would blame his misfortune on everyone else and it's unlikely, given that behaviour, he'd have any remorse.

[@susannahhunt1831]

Committing suicide is not always to do with remorse.

[@g-man4297]

A narcissist, in his situation would be very open to topping himself and making sure his body was never found, not through shame or remorse for the nanny, but for himself, he would not want to face trial and be shown to be the sad, life long loser, that he was. this way he get's to escape justice and public humiliation and he as managed to stay a mystery for almost 50 year,s perfect for a narcissist. It was always about him.

[@rolandtomassi3486]

What about Epstein, he was a narcissist and committed suicide, sometimes it’s done as a fuck you, like aaaron Hernandez

[@donnakerr4997]

@@rolandtomassi3486 Are you so sure that Epstein committed suicide?Was it ever proven without a shadow of a doubt?

[@bonniemagpie5166]

The original story of Narcissist killed himself.

[@nhhdjdhdj6496]

The best thing I've seen on YT in ages. Superb writing, great analysis without potentially false assumptions, and the least intrusive background music. Thanks.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you very much indeed - I am delighted you enjoyed it!

[@klhaldane]

I find it interesting that John disappeared in 1974, but no death certificate was issued until 2016. Why then, and not before or after? There was a gap of 42 years, and suddenly it was an issue to be dealt with. My first assumption would be that he actually died in 2016, and enough of the "right" people knew to prevent his son inheriting the title while his father was alive.

[@TheLordLucanCase]

BINGO

[@Jetlag003]

@@TheLordLucanCase He was alive in 1993

[@Witchofthewoods.]

This family's "aristocracy" REALLY went to their heads. They were nothing, but a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths. Lord of the Flies here is guilty as sin and he ran off to start another life. He didn't have the balls to commit suicide because Veronica ripped them off during the fight for her life! He got what he wanted in the long-run, which was taking her children from her because they didn't have anything to do with the woman who brought them into the world. How sad is that. Lucan didn't get away with murder because his life was essentially over after his crime spree. That has to be stressful, always looking over your shoulder.

[@cassandraespinosa2223]

Bravo for your well-written analysis!👏 Merry Christmas from Northern California!!🎄🇺🇸🎅👍

[@luckystoller6171]

Rest easy. I'm sure Lord Lucan was fed to one of Aspinall's lions. Or all of them.

[@barbaralamson7450]

Twice tragic. A self important man whom, by birthright, puts himself above most, and an addict. To kill the wrong person and having to run away. Even with his over inflated ego, he must have known he couldn't hide. He wouldn't be able to stop his addiction. What, indeed, has happened to Lord Lucan.

[@lokisfriend]

Seems like a biased view in favor of Lucan. His wife has a hard and empty marriage and he was a narcissist, no one can win against those odds.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

I hope it isn't biased - but clearly I have taken a different view to that which many would prefer. That said, in each of these essays on my channel I am giving my opinion, not someone else's or received wisdom - and each case is based on my own research of the matter. There have been many books written on Lucan which have treated him like a pantomime villain; he wasn't. Nor was his wife a cowed little woman. People are much subtler than this. Lucan was an addict, had been all his life and both he and his wife suffered with depression. In fact addiction is a symptom of depression - and he gambled to the end. And lost!

[@lokisfriend]

@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder After rewatching Veronica's interview I can see that she is not interested in making herself out to be a victim but is rather hard on herself when speaking about personal matters. I can also see that many years can play with our memories. She never made herself out to be a cowed little woman but rather an emotionally abused one, ignored by her husband and branded as 'mental', and in those days it was a stigma that was not easy to get out from under, he used his clout to try and put her away more than once. The judge saw through his machinations and that did not make him a bad judge, may be rather a good judge of character. I did appreciate your documentary, it is well thought out and well delivered but I believe she had an extremely hard time dealing with his self-entitlement and self-involvement and it ruined all their lives as a family.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

@@lokisfriend You have a very clear view of what you believe - and you clearly have taken the time to make your own mind up, which I respect. It is difficult to know the real story, of course, because this has been sensationalised in a way that no other case has been. But thank you for your opinion which I am happy to have here amongst the comments as a counter-balance to my own! A terrible tragedy for the whole family.

[@lokisfriend]

@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Absolutely correct on all counts and I'd just like to add that you did a thorough job of analyzing Lucan as an individual.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

@@lokisfriend You're very kind - thank you!

[@solowilliams3786]

He was a crazy fool. I pity his wife and kids. They suffered at his hand.. such a selfish person

[@ZRanchLady]

His wife was no gem either.

[@matty6848]

@Patty Nielsen which is why I don’t think he killed himself. One thing a narcissist will never do.

[@mellisande638]

Well said! Bunch of entitled inbreds 🤢🤮!@@cbarclay99

[@gailjarvis2592]

@@ZRanchLady How do you mean?

[@ZRanchLady]

@@gailjarvis2592 she did an interview before she died a few years ago - Pretty sure I saw it here on youtube. She's quite stuffy & arrogant in my opinion.

[@RadmilaNastic]

What s depraved person, as most of his class is. That poor girl, so young and beautiful. 😢

[@seandobson499]

And to think that these people used to think that they were above and better than anyone else. Lady Lucan suffered from depression and Lord Lucan probably made her depression even worse and had a very bad effect on her mental and physical health and Lord Lucan seems to have gone out of his way to convince everyone he could,including her that she was mentally unstable instead of offering her love and support,which he was probably incapable of doing. The victims in all this were his wife,the nanny and the children,and who knows what all this has done to them,before,then and since. I personally think that Lord Lucan was in turn murdered,directly or indirectly by people who did not want him to stand trial for fear of what he might reveal and they probably made sure that his body would never be found.

[@mellisande638]

Exactly!!

[@gertanckaert3023]

anyone ever wonder if he was gay? and his wife suffered the psychological consequences of being married to a mysoginist man, who resented the system that forced him to marry, and resented the woman he married, as part of this hot mess?

[@gertanckaert3023]

i did not know...will research a little more...seems so critical to the story, but not mentioned in dramatization, or the verbal docudrama.

[@mellisande638]

Sean Dobson, I agree heartily with everything you say and could not have expressed it better myself!.

[@josephinesosingot-raisanen6743]

A gambler with bad judgement...... How stupid is that

[@PhilJonesIII]

For many "gambler" and "bad judgement" are synonymous.

[@richardfinlayson1524]

also fairly common

[@fe.bonetti1537]

Nazis hid in plain sight in South America after the war, going to the beaches on holidays and what not... Not THAT impossible

[@sabrinatscha2554]

The definition of “Nazi“ at the time was anybody who lived in Germany who wasn’t a freaking communist

[@mississippimud7046]

I think his friends helped him escape and they know where he ended up

[@TheHorsebox2]

You don't know how right you are.

[@gardensofthegods]

@@TheHorsebox2 you say it with certainty.... what rumors have you heard .

[@TheHorsebox2]

@@gardensofthegods Read a very interesting book some years ago. Complete with photos of Lucan in his 60s in Goa. I'll root out the book and post details. Even if you don't believe it, Lucan's story is a fascinating one.

[@gardensofthegods]

@@TheHorsebox2 well I could believe he ended up in Goa , India.... back then not as many people knew about it.... he loved the water ... he would have had access to a lot of weed and other things to keep him high , lots of chicks in bikinis ...I could actually picture him there yes . That would be really cool if you could pull out the book and tell us a little bit about what's in it . If there would be any way you could upload those photos that would be really great .

[@TheHorsebox2]

@@gardensofthegods Go to Ebay or Amazon and order Dead Lucky, Lord Lucan, the Final Truth. Enjoy.

[@Thomas-fu8vp]

A class of persons above the law.

[@susannahhunt1831]

Yes, we all know that. Just look at the arrests of drug dealing. If you sell to what I presume are the Lower Classes they are arrested and in prisoned, but sell to the Middle and Upper and they are very rarely arrested. I have a friend called Shackleton he is much older than I, but in his twenties he went to court for dealing Heroin, but being a posh boy instead of going to prison for twenty years he was found not guilty. His Great Uncle Ernest Shackleton the famous explorer saved him even though he was dead. It is called snobbery.

[@gertanckaert3023]

or think they r? ...like royals??

[@BassGoBomb]

And they still think they are .. c.f. today's 'We're doing a difficult job' - and therefore above the law ..!! Patel. But they'll vote for them again - and once the bosses can influence you (as they'll make possible - c.f. U.S.) that'll really be the end.

[@janegardener1662]

Just horrible. The lead pipe, the sack, trying to kill his wife after he'd killed the nanny, leaving the children alone in a house with the murder victim, writing those letters trying to blame someone else! All of it.

[@bilindalaw-morley161]

What a terrific surprise...I apparently missed this one when I first discovered this channel. So now, even though I'm not well, my night is looking good! Thanks Mark, appreciation and respect. Stay well

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you, Bilinda - take care!

[@bethzolin6046]

A tragic story whichever way u look at it. I remember seeing an interview with Lady Lucan some years ago. I had felt sympathetic towards her but her attitude really put me off her and I though she must have been hard work. I could see why her children were alienated. There are some very fanciful assumptions in this script. However Lucan was a sailor - as you mention in the text - and Newhaven has lots of small boats moored there. He also had rich and influential friends. I have always thought they helped him to get away. As we know from modern times it is possible to sail across the Channel to France if the weather holds, especially if he had a friend’s passport. However the real tragedy of it all is the murder of that young nanny, Sandra. Absolutely appalling.

[@joyceroy2355]

What a simply exquisite narration, thank you so much 🎉

[@amarshmuseconcepta6197]

🎯 & Ditto. 👍😉

[@gailjarvis2592]

In nearly every account of this there is a pitiable amount of attention paid to the young woman who was slaughtered.

[@eoindee7007]

Well said Gail.

[@billmason2785]

Sandra Rivett....

[@heatherallingham7120]

amen!!!

[@sararichardson737]

A mere commoner m’dear.

[@johnniethepom7545]

Or her son .

[@MelanieMaguire]

I almost shed a tear for him at the end with your description of his end! Almost, but not quite! A classic. :)

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

I have always had a lot of sympathy for Lord Lucan! And for some of these other people who broke the ultimate human taboo of murder. Not all, by any means...

[@Tina06019]

Oh, hell no!

[@Santanahere]

Really enjoyed this, cheers for making such a comprehensive deep dive into a fascinating case that isn't often covered. Thankyou for the great work

[@jennyb7745]

In her book Lady Lucan states that she was trying to placate him immediately after the attack to fool him & play for time.She succeeded in this.Brave woman.Blood spatters everywhere in those frencied circumstances.Would explain why hers was found on the sack.

[@mikewinston8709]

Only the British aristocracy would wear a vast tweed overcoat on a gondola in Venice…..perfection.

[@moondancer4660]

I don't believe he loved his children so much he could not leave them. I believe he was merely obsessed with his children at that point in time because he wanted custody, thinking it would save him money. Which it probably wouldn't have!

[@davidcousins3508]

Another magnificent production..thoroughly researched and well presented 👍

[@serenanify]

I conversed with the late Lady Lucan and she was adamant that he took the ferry and jumped off mid route. She vehemently dismissed the possibility that he had gone to any other country.

[@tracesprite6078]

But how would she know.

[@serenanify]

@@tracesprite6078 well exactly! I asked her that of course. But she just said she ‘knew’ him and that’s exactly what he would have done. I couldn’t shake her on that.

[@tracesprite6078]

But that was probably her saving face in a miserable situation. @@serenanify

[@serenanify]

@@tracesprite6078I agree 😢

[@GoodbyeMrChips-do2fl]

Lord Lucan was confident that he could carry out the murder of his wife and shift the blame onto a non-existent intruder without arousing any suspicion or scrutiny, given his privileged status as a member of the aristocracy. He was confident that his own testimony would outweigh that of a working-class police officer. The Lucan family and their associates believe that the failure of John Lucan's plan was the true tragedy, rather than the murder of Sandra Rivett.

[@randomcomputer7248]

He was helped to escape, pretty easy to do for people with money in the 1970s

[@BassGoBomb]

Or today .. Doris could arrange it for you

[@janeclarkson8471]

Lucan had no money!!!

[@BassGoBomb]

@@janeclarkson8471 He lost loads gambling and drinking .. easily done when you are brought up in a privileged elitist environment and have no concept of actually 'earning' anything. Just as today some accuse the unemployed of... with much ignorance.

[@nomadpurple6154]

@@janeclarkson8471 His mate Aspinall had loads of money....and given the deaths at his zoos, a disregard of commoners lives

[@janeclarkson8471]

@@nomadpurple6154 Definitely a man with no conscience. Obnoxious too, OLUS a murderer! Pity he didn’t disappear under a rock before his murderous cowardice!

[@user-cj6yw5fu4l]

Great narration,your voice is perfect for these very interesting stories ,thankyou

[@chriswarburtonbrown1566]

Fans of Christy Moore know that Lucan was spotted riding Shergar at the Lisdoonvarnagh Festival in 1979.

[@janeyann8316]

All brilliantly told and illustrated. The narrator has a great voice. The tale is mostly the same as Lady Lucan's account, except she said he wanted her to take her pills so she would pass out and he could suffocate her.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you very much, Janey - yes, I suppose that must be a possibility - it is impossible to tell. I have felt that his will had been sapped by the realisation that he had killed the nanny. It robbed him of all purpose - after all, he could have hit her with the lead piping or a number of other objects... All his actions afterwards appear to speak of increasing resignation. The daughter had now seen her father and mother in the bedroom - his plan had failed spectacularly... But as you say, who knows what would have happened next had Veronica not fled the house?

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

Sounds like he’s a narcissist/sociopath. Amazing how the rich get away with so much

[@jordanhicks5131]

Take your class warfare bullshit and sell it down the road, wealth has nothing to do with him getting away. He disappeared, anyone can do that regardless of social status. This is a channel for murder, not your social commentary

[@SuperNevile]

@@bobhutton1409 until they do.........

[@SuperNevile]

@@bobhutton1409 LOL, I was merely finishing the sentence for you, not seeking eternal truth......

[@anonymousforever]

@@jordanhicks5131 well said.

[@zazaaziella16]

Every group has a few people who get away with stuff.

[@factsoverfeelings1]

Too big a coward to commit suicide. Being a Lord he would expect to get away with anything.

[@jodyhowells1518]

When you live with a narcissist your life will be turned upside down, I think this is what happened to Lady lucan

[@GygaxGirl]

Yes!

[@jas20per]

I like to think that Lucan and Shergar spent the rest of their live wandering the more wilder parts of Europe together.

[@magarkouyoumdjian9722]

Beautifully and poetically worded and narrated !

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

You are very kind - thank you!

[@benandemmasmom]

Please, more! Your insights, empathy, and "wordsmanship"

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you very much, Susan - you are very kind to say so!

[@knockedoutloaded279]

The Narrator is......Lord Lucan......

[@DCFunBud]

This was beautifully written and narrated. "He felt his heart beat." Lucan's demise in this fashion makes the most sense.

[@lorraineharris243]

Most interesting & Oddly very calming due to the narrator's silky voice, the accompanying sketches are very effective, so enjoyed this, subscribing & thankyou for your hard work 👍😁

[@poetryjones7946]

These historical accounts are fascinatingly hair-raising, your presentation flawless. Subbed! I plan on having a marathon of all your videos over the Halloween holidays!

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you very much!

[@applesandpears9756]

Just watched again, 2 years on..still not convinced. Something is off.

[@thegreencat9947]

Calling him "Lucky" is like calling a bald man "curly".

[@lynnrobinson8885]

Very much liked the format and thought process for this. Lord Lucan loved his children, at least he seemed to, by the different mentions of his desires to “get them” from his wife. Given all his failings in Life, not sure whether he could love anyone - even his own children. Or was that a ploy of his perhaps? (perhaps he just didn’t want her to have the children, causing her much upset?) What a mean excuse for a man, a husband, and a father.

[@jeanthornton2107]

Excellent naration, great video. Many thanks ❤

[@susanclayton6275]

I could listen to you all day your calm voice retelling these stories thank you.

[@coolhand67]

It seems strange that he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (in his definition). His plan could still have been seen through if he had killed Veronica after Sandra. By not doing so he condemned himself to failure and to his own conviction. He handed victory to his wife which seems to make no sense given his state of mind. But then again who really knows what went through his mind. It’s just a shame he didn’t face justice for being a common killer instead of becoming a legend.

[@FionaOfMountLawley]

The theory regarding his flight to Australia has some intriguing aspects. There was a performing folk music act called the Mucky Duck Bush Band. It formed in 1973 and continued to perform until 2016, with its sixth and last recording, an LP entitled 'The Heart of Duckness', being released in 2014. I saw the band perform sometime around 1980 or 1981, I think. In 1975 a man by the name of Barry Halpin joined as a banjo and tin whistle player. One of the bands founders, Greg Hastings, answered questions about him in the early 2000's after a resemblance Halpin possessed to Lord Lucan was noticed from old pictures of the band. He had left the band in 1980, amid problems with tax authorities, with the intention to establish a hotel business in India . He died in Goa, India in 1996. A Scotland Yard detective, Duncan McLoughlin, posited that Halpin was in fact was Lucan, living a very different mode of life under an assumed name in the book he published ('Dead Lucky') in 2003. Recollections of him from band members include that he was an alcoholic, fairly coarse in his presentation, habits and humour, drank fortified wine for breakfast and had what they stated to be the Liverpool-Irish accent (not a refined one). Band members do not believe that he was Lucan, but accepted that there was at least a superficial physical similarity.

[@AwesomeAngryBiker]

Every one of these videos are absolutely outstanding, massive well done Mark

[@gwinniboots]

Love the drawings and your slow, calm re-telling of the story.

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Many thanks, Gwyn!

[@elainelytle9704]

Thank God she got away.

[@Jubilee33382]

This was very well told.....fascinating. My father committed suicide without a note of explanation, or indeed an apology within an hour of an argument. Suicide can be a strange act of vengeance, and I think this was the case with Lucan. "You'll be sorry, when I'm gone"

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

I am sorry to hear this, Dorothy - yes, a terrible thing for everyone. Take care.

[@Jubilee33382]

@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Thank you, I agree with your conclusion that Lucan did commit suicide, one cowardly act, after another

[@simoncullum5019]

So sorry to hear that but I think revenge is a motive

[@janrees4887]

One of the greatest mysteries of the 20th century. I don't know why his friends called him Lucky Lucan because he was a terrible gambling addict who constantly lost all his money.

[@valeria-militiamessalina5672]

He also won, and won a lot on the rare occasions when he did.

[@mikedee1771]

Apparently he got the nickname after a very big win. Ironic, as things turned out.

[@katherinejay3219]

He did win £26,000 in one evening.

[@sararichardson737]

You’re obviously not English .

[@hirepgym6913]

Goldsmith gave him the nickname it was a joke while they set him up to fleece him

[@cadencechrome4783]

Exceptional commentary, very well done. Thank you!

[@NelsonStJames]

"Sandra - is everything alright?" Talk about an Alfred Hitchcock moment.

[@iainclark5964]

The case of Lord Lucan I believe shows the establishment in its truest light. The cold entitled arrogance and the belief that the law does not apply to them.

[@rkh7904]

I agree with Lisa, there is no real evidence that he wanted the children for anything other than to make a point. A gambler of his calibre will choose gambling over putting food on the table of his own children. He certainly cared for no one other than himself by throwing in his job because his lack of character probably saw him a poor candidate for promotion. As has been found in serious gamblers, they are chasing the rush of winning and therefore never do win to the level they perceive they will again. That he blamed life as some terrible script put upon him shows that he had no insight into how pathetic he really was and all of it was of his own making. I wonder if there was any finger prints on the tape he bound the pipe with? I read somewhere else that the children believed he would never hurt their mother and shunned her. Even in death his ability to hurt Veronica continued.

[@jodyt8548]

Veronica lucan seemed like she was always so unhappy. That isn't an excuse to be such an absentee mother however. She was so cold toward them, no wonder they didn't have a relationship with her. She might have rhought she won the lottery by marrying a Lord, but she ended up with a very lonely, miserable life.

[@rosemarie20]

Why is it that the woman is always after the man and whatever he has? He pursued her. He asked her to marry him. Something was in it for him, even if only a brood mare to produce his heir. She was more of a prize than was he.

[@anneheimburger3186]

I don't think she was an absentee mother by choice.their father poisoned them against their mother.

[@jodyt8548]

​@@anneheimburger3186actually in the documentary Lord Lucan, Veronica speaks about her cold and distant relationship with her children.

[@wendyharris8026]

It seems strange that he would be capable of killing the first woman, albeit in error, but would then not be able to go on to murder the second - his alledged intended victim - the one who could then become the damning witness.

[@rosemarie20]

That's why it makes sense that he originally had help, someone who actually could kill. He was left alone when Veronica's voice called after the Nanny.

[@melissaarrington8328]

He seem to be such a mean....selfish man.....how sad for his victims...all of them

[@iansoutryer3189]

As I listen to your videos during working hours, I must say that yout voice is very soothing, easy to understand and your accent is impeccable!

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thank you! 😃

[@bowes-lyonmedia6762]

Dear Sir, Such a brilliant & extraordinary presentation of a very confusing & evil situation. Have you written a book about this? You certainly are brilliant in many ways. The research must have taken a long time & producing this as well. Well done! I fear he probably did leave the country, but my only question to this would be, how did he support himself financially & was never found? There are more questions than answers. It was a sad end for his wife, committing suicide thinking she had, I believe, Parkinson's Disease, of which it was proven at her autopsy she wasn't. Thank you for an excellent documentary. Viscount Bowes-Lyon

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Many thanks for your kind comment. It did take some time to research the matter - and also to separate the press-hype from reality! I have not published any of these documentaries in text form as yet, but I certainly hope to do so at some point in the future!

[@robbiemify]

except at 41:15 ish he "Planned to dispose of his wife in the Solent". Newhaven is nowhere near the Solent !!!

[@nrgltwrkr2225]

While I do find your theory of the demise of Lord Lucan very poetic, narcissists, and especially a narcissistic aristocrat with such a high opinions of himself, including what he believed he deserved out of life, would not resort to suicide. I could see him closeting himself away in some obscure and unknown estate/home/apartment somewhere, never leaving, being supported financially by family, friends, or associates. And, even though he was said to love his children, narcissists usually only pantomime love. People are merely resources to narcissists, and once their usefulness is at an end they are discarded without ceremony or remorse. When a person or partner stands up to or leaves the narcissist, that person then becomes "the enemy" and a brutal onslaught of character assassination, obsessive stalking and violence can ensue. We see this here. He became obsessed with hurting his wife in every way possible, and what better way than to take her children away from her? Hence, the reason why he never contacted them after his escape becomes clear: as a true narcissist, they were never really important to him at all, or certainly not as important as his own freedom...they were only important as a means to cause her pain. When this effort failed, he decided to murder her. When this failed, he called on his network friends, family or associates unknown to extricate him from the desperate situation he had created for himself, and someone, or a group of someones, complied. This is certainly not the first time that the wealthy and/or powerful have covered up for one another and made a person or problem disappear. It is possible to change one's hair color, one's accent, one's style of dress, and yes, even one's behavior, especially after murdering someone you never intended to. If the theory that he had an unknown (no paper trail or witnesses?) boat hidden somewhere to commit suicide with, then why couldn't he have just as easily met someone with a yacht out at sea with that same boat and sink it after his escape? No, my bet is that, sadly like many of your other episodes, he lived out his life in relative obscurity and died quietly. But your theory is so much more satisfying!

[@TheyGotAwayWithMurder]

Thanks for your thoughtful and considered reply! :)

[@bonniemagpie5166]

Narcissist in Greek Mythology did kill himself. Suicide is very much within The Narcissistic Psyche.

[@bonniemagpie5166]

@@nrgltwrkr2225, Lady Lucan knew her husband only too well. She said she believes he rode out into the sea on his boat, drugged himself to a stupor and then fell out and into the propellers. He knew himself as a failure and perhaps couldn't live with that....the part where his wife got away.

[@looneylozzer]

In 1977 I worked for Lord Aspinall at Howletts zoo in Kent, I lived on the site. One night, very late(midnight) I was checking on the animal enclosures when I saw a car arrive at the main house, and the man I saw that came from the car and into the house was Lucan. I watched for some time and about an hour after this man came down from the house and got back into the car. It drove away and from that day I fully believe the man was Lucan.

[@E-Kat]

That's so incredible!! Have you informed the police or told anyone at that time? My intuition tells me he got away too. He loved life too much to kill himself. His very rich friends had helped him financially and that was peanuts for them. They probably rather enjoyed the challenge of whisking him away. They were so connected, they had no fear. When we think that prince Philip was friends with the Kray brothers and they met regularly at the Thursday Club, then anything is possible. Queen Elizabeth had sent a telegram with condolences to the Kray family on the death on one of the brothers!! I know this as I've heard it myself on the BBC news and I nearly fell off the sofa when I heard that news item!! The next BBC news edition was already sanitised of this highly embarrassing news flash!! This must be somewhere in BBC archives.

[@Frenchblue8]

So wonderfully written. You had me on tenterhooks til the end, and I could see the end, the end for Lord Lucan, the way you wrote it as the likeliest happenstance.. indeed, you've made me see what happened, and I will never see this case any other way from now on, no matter what documentaries I watch or books I read. This was the end that Lucan accomplished. A larger than life personality, experiencing, finally, a very small, bitter and inevitably miserable ~and miserly~ death

[@taiikomochiyuurichin1459]

Was Lord Lucan responsible for the murder of Sandra? There is no avoiding it from his actions the night of the murder. Why would an innocent leave the scene of a crime instead of checking on the safety of his children? Avoid contacting the police then disappear?

[@pumpupjam9648]

He wouldn't be the first to commit murder and get away with it. It's happening every day worldwide, in our cities, towns, and hidden in houses.

[@Bendygedy]

Yes , poor victims are always brushed aside when interest moves to catching the killer

[@saintexupery8406]

Having listened to many books narrated by the great John Lee, Mr Maguire could well indeed be his first cousin. Lovely job narrating!

[@derby1884]

Lucan and his gambling fraternity were such a tight-knit (and arrogant) group that I find it hard to believe that he hadn't divulged to at least a few of them what he planned to do to his wife - and I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't all pull together to ensure he got away with it. If this had been virtually anyone else, I'd agree with the murder/suicide angle but not this bunch of rogues. I well remember all the coverage back in 1975 and how the vast majority believed he'd scarpered abroad. Going back to his cadre of friends, always remember just how this class of person can very easily pull strings/call in favours from some far-flung parts of the world. The sun may have been setting on the British Empire but it was still potent enough to hide a fugitive with both cash and powerful man to back him up......

[@gwinniboots]

I agree.

[@TheLordLucanCase]

As John Lucan’s brother Hugh stated, Lucan did escape to South Africa.

[@wiseup8729]

​@@TheLordLucanCaseohhhh interesting. Probably found himself a wealthy woman there too.