Alt-Right Star Details NIGHTMARE Tradwife Experience

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2 ай бұрын

Right-winger Lauren Southern shared her horrifying experience with being a tradwife. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: tyt.com/team
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"Does promoting marriage and motherhood inevitably make women easy targets for subordinate status, increased vulnerability, and a return to second-class status? One of the very first columns I wrote at UnHerd, back in 2019, described how, for me, becoming a mum meant giving up on a great deal of the liberal ideology I’d embraced when younger - because it was impossible to square with the embodied reality of caring for a baby. A relatively conventional home life turned out to be much more fulfilling than the radical one I’d adopted with my progressive politics.
My accounts of questioning this individualistic ideology, and embracing marriage and motherhood have resonated with social conservatives. Most of these, it goes without saying, feel (as I do) that family life and women’s distinctive sexed realities should be better understood and valued in the public conversation. Some, though, take more hardline positions: that women should never work, for example, that we should always be submissive - or even that women’s right to vote should be repealed."
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@crystalwalker4403 2 ай бұрын

If “Be careful what you wish for” was a person!

@tacitus6384 2 ай бұрын

Having a shot-gun wedding because you slept around and married a guy you barely knew is not 'trad wife'. She slept with and married a terrible person and blames everyone else for the bad decision.

@DoubleOhTheG 2 ай бұрын

Just like the saying goes: "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"

@HxTurtle 2 ай бұрын

so very true! but those people from the left aren't smart enough to realize they mistakes even when it becomes pressingly obvious.

@ryanjones4877 27 күн бұрын

@@tacitus6384 sounds pretty trad to me.

@Betavey 2 ай бұрын

This is why women fought so hard to get away from being forced to live this life style. It puts you in a extremely vulnerable position for many forms of abuse

@aeoligarlic4024 2 ай бұрын

I think traditional household and dynamics work for some people. The thing is, right wingers mistake traditional dynamics as women being fully submissive and dependant on a guy thus being in a risk of abuse

@shinjishinjs6060 2 ай бұрын

Women had "equal" power in the sense that in the household their voice was more powerful than the husband. It was not that one sided as you think it was.

@Canadiana_Invicta 2 ай бұрын

Its only a danger if you ignore red flags like Lauren Southern did. Just marry a non-abusive guy (most of them) and you won't have problems.

@gingerthomas5758 2 ай бұрын

@betawyThis is factual. I'm 71 years old and my wife and I have a partnership. We raised our daughter to be strong. Her husband is smart enough to appreciate her strength. He's a good man, a veteran, the same as me. He doesn't need her silence so that he can be heard.

@XaraK1 2 ай бұрын

That's why I always laugh about the whole desirable 50s housewife thing as if those women didn't usher in another wave of feminism coz they were miserable 😂

@Marika_ER 2 ай бұрын

Who knew being in a relationship with people that hate women would be bad

@kayallen7603 2 ай бұрын

As an university-educated woman I find this TRAD BS disgusting. Now she is divorced while I have been married to the same man, after two kids, both of us having had a military career, now we are retired and still together. WE REMAIN IN LOVE. I was NEVER submissive. I RULE MY HOUSE as a WIFE SHOULD. This trad BS, is CONTRARY TO HISTORICAL TRUTH where hubby went off to war and his WIFE help the reins of his estate. Next time, learn before you marry.

@carsi7282 2 ай бұрын

@@UnclePumblechook Typically, not always, women are much better at perception and social cues so that is why women were in charge of the house and society. The alpha females also always kept an eye on the future. They knew personalities, who was related, who were teh good providers and good matches. Women build societies, men provided for and to safety for them, and women care for the men. But there are always outliers. It's about ability to communicate, to adapt, humility and respect

@warehousejo007 2 ай бұрын

@@carsi7282 a reasonable statement, but one that is not in line with emerging pre-dominant thinking. if it's not selfish or senseless, why are u bringing it up? 😢

@jasonmay6368 2 ай бұрын

Who would've have guessed a man with toxic right wing views would treat his wife like utter crap?

@keksi6844 2 ай бұрын

She actually needs to marry believing Muslim man not some right winger.

@larryc1616 2 ай бұрын

Typical conservative males. Never date nor marry a trumptard. Think about how your kids will be raised. A Trump rally will be their Disneyland

@jl-io3vw 2 ай бұрын

@@keksi6844 She married a right winger and got everything she deserved. That's what happens when you marry the poorly educated.

@TreyIM22 2 ай бұрын

@@keksi6844Suuurrree

@antclerfont8478 2 ай бұрын

No kidding

@Scops96 2 ай бұрын

You wanted to be treated like crap, you was treated like one. Marriage shouldn't be master-slave relationship, but two people going through life sharing both joy and pain together.

@dayrohan 2 ай бұрын

If she listened to the women that lived that way… she wouldn’t be in this mess. There’s a reason, many women cringed at traditionalism.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

And all the people that think things were so much better in the past are simply advertising they know nothing of history.

@shinjishinjs6060 2 ай бұрын

Or rather the situation is more complex and you were lied

@almanediligence9505 2 ай бұрын

Stop the bullshit! Being a trad wife isn't the issue! ANY MAN can do the exact same thing to ANY WOMEN! So stop lying to yourself, period.

@mgaus 2 ай бұрын

Here's a hot take: A toxic relationship can be progressive or traditional. The basis of values doesn't dictate the relationship's success or health

@lacey892 2 ай бұрын

No but patriarchal values where women are considered 'lesser' create an inherent power imbalance and abusive behavior.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

a smart person might even say the regressive traditional crap is itself toxic.

@mosamaster 2 ай бұрын

Born to an Indian family I was also a fool who wanted to keep traditional marriage values but ended up with a horrible human as a spouse. It happened in UK where I was treated like trash and me and my 3 year old kid was kicked out of the house with a divorce notice in the midst of the covid pandemic. It took me an year of counseling and therapy to get back to normal. Now I am a single parent . I am a man and not a woman. The victim of domestic abuse can be of any gender.

@Jenifer_R_ 2 ай бұрын

"Traditional marriage values" always favour the man. At least you considered your wife to be human.

@RobertaTMS_ 2 ай бұрын

You're the exception of the exception, I'm sorry.

@Jenifer_R_ 2 ай бұрын

@@RobertaTMS_ All we know is that he wanted a "traditional marriage" and she left him. Her side of the story is missing.

@drumpfisidiot5021 2 ай бұрын

Now let's hear the woman's side....

@plaidpanda 2 ай бұрын

@@Jenifer_R_ Any woman who doesn't want to parent her own toddler pretty much tells me everything I need to know.

@liliswenson6144 2 ай бұрын

I am 77 and grew up in thev1950s. Her view of a traditional wife is not what a traditional 1950s wife was like. Sounds like she married a guy with some personality and emotional problems. Traditional may have stayed home and not worked, but they RAN the household and were not as submissive as she imagines. The wife made the household rules.

@encorefootball 2 ай бұрын

100%. Thank you for being honest

@jahbloomie 2 ай бұрын

We’re the same age. Sounds like you have a healthy matrilinear history. Many of us aren’t as lucky. A lot depends on having good mental health yourself so you pick a worthy partner. Also, freedom to date and shop around.

@johnmiller7682 2 ай бұрын

The number one problem with the "trad" wife concept, is we don't live in the world any more. They only way for that to work would be to find a kind, compassionate, loving husband. But here's the catch, any husband who is those things, doesn't wan't a trad wife, he wants a partner, not a submissive. So all that leaves is the assholes.

@TheStephaneAdam 2 ай бұрын

And look, we *never* lived in that world in the first place. Working class women have always worked, even if it was often part-time or informal work mending clothes or raising a few chickens. They're LARPING 50's dishwasher comercials.

@DanLetts97 9 күн бұрын

I used to work with Lauren Southern right before she moved to Toronto to work with rebel media. Probably one of the most naïve women I ever met. And she’s still naïve. Pushing 30 she is still naïve. Imagine being 21 years old and thinking you have all the solutions for the world’s problems. Imagine that.

@EyeLean5280 7 күн бұрын

What's naïve about her now?

@DanLetts97 2 күн бұрын

@@EyeLean5280 who knows, I don’t know her now

@nedsantos1415 2 ай бұрын

Tell her to pull herself up from the bootstraps????? Not to be cold-hearted here, but what she essentially did was just the same thing the conservative chauvinists have been doing to the women who choose not to be someone's "tradwife" but to find their own worth and strength and to be independent.

@nedsantos1415 2 ай бұрын

She deserves no sympathy until she apologizes to those who she berated and criticized when she espoused that toxic ideology.

@JennieBanks 2 ай бұрын

This.

@stickiedmin6508 2 ай бұрын

@@nedsantos1415 Absolutely. If she can separate herself from that ideology and denounce the awful things she said and express a little bit of remorse for the harm she caused, then she deserves a second chance - not until. Nobody deserves to be treated the way that she was treated, obviously, but at the same time, nobody deserves to be forgiven _just_ because their own bad choices blew up in their faces.

@delphi-moochymaker62 2 ай бұрын

She attracted a hard core right winger, then she was surprised he was a hard core right winger.

@henrywestbrook9773 2 ай бұрын

While I realize she was only 22 when she married, I still can't believe she got to be 22 years old and actually believed that men could do no wrong. What planet did she live on?

@larryc1616 2 ай бұрын

Reap what you sow deplorables!

@StephenKennedyCanada 2 ай бұрын

Like all leftist are complete saints.

@archelonprime 2 ай бұрын

@@StephenKennedyCanada Spoken like a typical right winger attempting a straw-man because he KNOWS he has no real defense for the POSs on his side. 🤡

@jl-io3vw 2 ай бұрын

@@StephenKennedyCanada Saints compared to right wingers. Fact!

@whereaboutsunknown4370 2 ай бұрын

Everyone makes errors. She has the balls to admit she was wrong.

@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217 2 ай бұрын

Just because she chose a man who violated the traditional role does not mean traditional roles are bad.

@Nazi.Brains.0n.My.Hammer 2 ай бұрын

@@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217 Gods not real, and you commenting on every other comment to defend awful sexist roles, portrayed in your fairytale book, is pathetic. tell yourself whatever you want, then stfu.

@dawn-gk2tr 2 ай бұрын

He spotted a willing victim and , with her co-operation , tried the limits and found she had no boundaries so he kept pushing . I have no doubt that he finally got so bored that he stopped caring if he lost his slave . I married in 1966 and my husband used to say that any man who needed a submissive woman was a dead loser who had no sense of worth . He also was horrified to think of how " bloody boring " living with a " little woman " would be. Suited us both until death parted us.

@dimxsk 2 ай бұрын

Okay Ana, Except she influenced likely thousands of young women to go through the same hell… And so she deserves zero credit.

@LAinLA86 2 ай бұрын

Anna is the worst

@dennisduncan7561 2 ай бұрын

And then realized how dumb she'd been and changed her views. Don't dump all over her. She's making amends.

@pinkyfloyd7712 2 ай бұрын

Ana's the type to give credit to kids who are warned not to touch hot stoves, touch them anyway and learn the hard way and then cry about how they are suffering the consequences everyone warned them about

@leilac6970 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you! Bad comparison! She didn't buy hazelnut creamer instead of vanilla creamer...she was abusive, racist, backwards and lied to tons of woman.... she's gotten enough attention from us. I want her to be forgotten, no more revenue from the people!🙄

@theprogressiveway 2 ай бұрын

Who’ve thunk becoming property of another would have bad consequences

@jaynebarry5658 2 ай бұрын

If someone is so insecure they need you to submit, that is your first clue.

@williezar2231 2 ай бұрын

My mom used to say, "Be careful of what you wish for". Turn out she had a great point.

@GabrielNicho 2 ай бұрын

Who knew that ignoring tons of red flags and marrying someone anti-social could lead to a bad marriage.....

@rmsavig2204 2 ай бұрын

Why do people think a 22 year old knows much?

@5400bowen 2 ай бұрын

22 year old men are expected to “know much”. Excuses. These women snicker when family and friends warn them about an abusive man they are dating. But he’s SO SEXY!!!!! So tough and cool and masculine and self confident. It excites women sexually. It’s the Emperors New Clothes story all over. With women, nice guys finish last.

@scotiadragoon5974 2 ай бұрын

She didn’t spot the red flag of a guy wanting a tradwife. Don’t expect her to get any sudden clarity in any other aspect of her beliefs.

@watermelonlover745 2 ай бұрын

She married an Asian guy.

@fatgrandmafinds 2 ай бұрын

She got exactly what she asked for when she decided to be a submissive wife, give up her job and give him all the power in every aspect of her life.

@MFBloosh 2 ай бұрын

Welp, does anyone feel bad for her? What did she expect? She puts that energy out into the world, and she married a man who did exactly what she preached.

@famalam943 2 ай бұрын

She married a fed who was reporting on her and he randomly left one day.

@patrickdavenport6254 2 ай бұрын

She asked for it, she got it. No tears from me.

@anonymousa-uy1hk 2 ай бұрын

Nah, no sympathy for her. That’s like feeling sorry for a person who just realized that punching someone in the face is wrong because they got hurt by someone else punching them in the face. She didn’t understand because she didn’t want to and she felt so secure about her life that she believed she would never be put in a position where she would have to understand the other side and what other people were possibly going through. I say toughsky shitsky, Lauren.

@leilac6970 2 ай бұрын

Exactly!! She has no sympathy for other people.

@breathnstop 2 ай бұрын

They isolate you then crush your spirit then dump you. Thats an insecure narcissist.

@emptyemptiness8372 2 ай бұрын

She wanted a 1950s marriage and she got one.

@SonicBoomC98 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm sure you're an expert on 50s marriages

@DavidRichardson153 2 ай бұрын

@@SonicBoomC98Well, seeing as how 1950s marriages more-or-less ended when Reagan created the no-fault divorce, which had the knock-on effect of DV and murder calls plummeting because women now had a much easier time getting out a 1950s marriage with their lives _and_ their freedom... I don't know, you tell us, assuming you want to assert that you know more about 1950s marriages.

@larryc1616 2 ай бұрын

Bless her heart

@SonicBoomC98 2 ай бұрын

@@DavidRichardson153 This is complete BS. No fault divorces did not cause a decrease in DV or homicides. And most of the people talking about how bad marriages were back then often aren't married or got married decades later. This idea of all the bad marriages back in the 50s is just a narrative that was pushed decades later

@archelonprime 2 ай бұрын

@@SonicBoomC98 Is that how wanted to out yourself as another pathetic right winger no real defense of your fellow POSs? 🤡

@derekrequiem4359 2 ай бұрын

Huh, so she became one of those divorced single moms that she previously hated so much. Karma, how I love you 😂😂😂

@leilac6970 2 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

@renzaluski1385 2 ай бұрын

* Talking about how women are yelled at if they express a differing opinion from a man and how that's bad * * The woman is yelled at & talked over & told that she's wrong as soon as she expresses a differing opinion from a man *

@Krise343 2 ай бұрын

How can someone be so incredibly uninformed and naive in 2024?

@LostChildOfTime 2 ай бұрын

Some right wingers in America try to live in the 1950s in isolation.

@jl-io3vw 2 ай бұрын

@@LostChildOfTime Unfortunately they are pushing their evangelical views on the rest of us.

@DrejaAndi 2 ай бұрын

Turn on a TV and you'll understand. It's not just rightwingers either, we're inundated with ignorance, propaganda, and selfishness.

@josephgreear5789 2 ай бұрын

You can be brainwashed by your old assed family. She’s in her early 20s right?

@Anonymousfreedomlover 2 ай бұрын

Yep - living life like it’s pre women’s rights is surprisingly not ideal for women. Who’da’thought? People who think women should submit to their husbands forget that men were also admonished to care for their wives as they would their own bodies. Now I believe they should be equal - but if you’re going to claim that the Bible says women should submit to their husband so that’s the way it needs to be - they should also recognize a husband’s obligations too.

@akmal94ibrahim 2 ай бұрын

Yep. The same goes for Islam. Sure it says that the wife should submit to the husband (as long as he doesn't ask you to do bad things) but it also says that it is the husband's responsibility to provide the family with shelter, food, safety, education, a loving environment, etc. A lot of this tradwife thing sounds like just the wife holding up her end of the bargain and the husband doing jack shit apart from giving food and a home.

@SonicBoomC98 2 ай бұрын

But most men who are looking for a wife to submit aren't saying men shouldn't care for their wives and work together with them. This is just them finding an example of an extreme case

@Anonymousfreedomlover 2 ай бұрын

@@SonicBoomC98 I really wish it were so. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I’ve been a part of a religious cult when I was young that had expectations of women to submit. I became a teen mom. Very few men are kind, faithful, protective providers. I wanted nothing more than to be free to stay home and focus on raising my child, but I had to leave and work two jobs and put my child into childcare, which I didn’t want to have to do. Because most men abuse the position of dominance and lie, cheat, womanize and beat their wives. I’ve also researched my family history and my great grandmother and grandfather were Orthodox Jews. She never learned to read and he beat her - and that was just the way it was for most women back then. Pop out children till they died in childbirth- and then the men remarried a young woman and she popped out more children and so on and so on. Women were second class citizens with no rights, no opportunity for self determination and nowhere to go when they were abused. And that’s what religious extremists want us to go back to. I say hey-ell no!!

@aeoligarlic4024 2 ай бұрын

They always conveniently leave out that last part

@MsMelyjean 2 ай бұрын

But the damage is done. She has hours and hours of the toxic material. No one is going to see her apology or mea culpa.

@Part-Time-Pope 2 ай бұрын

If you want to perform the traditional homemaker role, by all means, follow your dream. None of that means you ever have to endure disrespect from a trash person.

@JCasR3 2 ай бұрын

Let’s remember… plenty of wives and mothers packed up and left their husbands and families back in the 1950’s too

@humboldthammer 2 ай бұрын

Yep, and plenty of guys died from a hemlock or foxglove heart attack when they turned 66, too. "Divorce is a sin."

@SonicBoomC98 2 ай бұрын

Right

@kevindavis9095 2 ай бұрын

Apparently, she is still as self-centered and narcissistic as ever. She spoke only about herself and her life. Not a word of apology to the countless other women out there whose lives are ruined because they believed and followed her advice.

@jl-io3vw 2 ай бұрын

Great point!

@antclerfont8478 2 ай бұрын

What an era.... It really is sad..

@paulaj.7685 2 ай бұрын

She deserves no sympathy

@johnm84 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. She deserves no sympathy at all.

@Mitu918 2 ай бұрын

I am a traditional wife with a traditional husband. When we got married, I wanted to be at home and he wanted to work. However, we live in NYC, one of the most expensive city in the world, so we both had to work to survive. Husband and wife are a unit. You change as your environment changes. You deal with life as life goes on. From a traditional wife, I had to become a working wife and a working mom. From a traditional husband, he had to become a working house husband and a working dad. Life does not have written-in-stone type things. You change as your situation changes. A traditional husband and wife do everything in their power to keep the unit going. The unit needs love, respect, and mutual goals to work toward.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

Sorry honey, a union of equals is not a traditional marriage in any sense of the term

@Mitu918 2 ай бұрын

@RugbyPass81 one of the most expensive...

@Mitu918 2 ай бұрын

@RugbyPass81 In queens, more affordable housing goes for 1.5mil. Manhattan, obiousely you know the price it get raise up to. Most killer in NYC is unaffordable health insurance. If you break a bone, you would lose your house to pay off emergency bills. NYC is unaffordable, not because of the price of the house, because of cost of medical care expenses. New Yorkers do not go to emergency or call for ambulance unless they are close to dying. and if anyone has cancer, Fuhgeddaboudit

@jingleball2427 2 ай бұрын

Lol Anna and Cenk are basically brother and sister at this point huh? 😅 Anna's "HOLD ON" hit like a sister

@Stickyickyslapshot 2 ай бұрын

I came to the comments just to see if anyone else noticed that 🤣

@MoonBeamsChild 2 ай бұрын

Give her credit for what? Realizing she was wrong? Are you serious? She got a taste of her own medicine. This is freaking karma!!! Nah... No credit!!!!

@tacitus6384 2 ай бұрын

She didn't get a 'taste of her own medicine'. She slept with and married a guy within 4 months of meeting him, and he turned out to be emotionally abusive because he resented her for stunting his career with the Australian government. She made terrible decisions and blamed 'trad wife' ideology.

@MoonBeamsChild 2 ай бұрын

@@tacitus6384 if that isn't getting a taste of her own medicine, I don't know what it is. She's been crapping on single mothers for years. Now she is one for following her own insane tradwife ideologies. 🤷🏾‍♀️

@Candyliz2003 Ай бұрын

What could go wrong? Believe in subjugation of women and find out that you don't like subjugation!?

@bridgetveralidaine3761 2 ай бұрын

The only time a traditional dynamic works is if the woman **wants** to do it, not because it is some romanticised ideal, but because it is what she truly wants and is fulfilled by it, and understands that it is challenging and most of the time, a 24/7 chore.... and, more importantly.... it only works if the man is mature enough, has integrity, and doesn't just want a stay-at-home trophy wife, but understands that the role is just as demanding, stressful, and difficult as whatever corporate or blue-collar job he has. It only works if he wants to provide and is willing to sacrifice to do so and understands that he can clock out of work and relax for the rest of the evening. His wife, who has likely started her day before him.... will still be on the clock after he is in bed, especially if young children are present.

@salaltschul3604 2 ай бұрын

Yes. Because both partners are communicating, meeting one another's needs and desires, and willing to be flexible. Everyone has to pull their own weight and work together, not essentially stop being a person. I wish more people, men especially, really understood that being a husband and father requires more than an ability to open a wallet. ANYONE can do that. Literally anyone could take that job out from under him, especially if this new dude treats her as a person lol.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

@@salaltschul3604 pssst, considering a womans opinion or needs is definitely a modern thing. it used to be legal (until a disturbingly recent time too) for a husband to rape his wife. like if he wanted it and she didnt, he could just take it and that was totally fine. THAT is how much consideration women got in the past.

@kenmvilla 2 ай бұрын

Why is Ana all over the place in recent years? Cenk was trying to say hes not sure shes reformed her terrible views, and Ana is like "its inappropriate for me to go after her for her bad views, but i dont know that her specific beliefs have changed." She seems to be going out of her way lately to defend or not criticize bad behavior

@noprogressionisregression6854 2 ай бұрын

I don't disagree. Whie I haven't heard her say anything that has personally really bothered me, I feel like there is something going on with her and she's not really being upfront about it. Maybe she's just confused within herself. But when you work for a very progressive news outlet, you kind of need to have that s*** together

@kenmvilla 2 ай бұрын

@noprogressionisregression6854 she seems like she is no longer willing to hold conservatives feet to the fire for their toxic ideas in certain instances. Where before she used to say "no cookies for your now she likes to sit the fence. I get it, you have to understand where they're coming from, but I'm more like Cenk in that aspect. Show me you are an ally and I will treat you like one. Simply saying woe is me I am finally a victim of my own viewpoints isn't enough for me

@Tmack034 2 ай бұрын

There's a clear pattern of "people" she goes out of her way to defend. (see her updated video on the victoria secret Karen)

@ouyekiltipuehtesra 2 ай бұрын

She is having some humility after recognizing in other SOME of the behaviours she did herself. She's obviously reflected and been hard on herself over her journalism mistakes and is more sensitive to recognizing this in other circumstances.

@ldy2hzlft1111 2 ай бұрын

I use to judge women who stayed with abusive men.Then I was in one.I stopped judging women who stay.

@Katsnacks 2 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure she had some Nazi ideology before she got married sooo am I still supposed to feel sorry for her even though she’s may be extremely racist

@DrejaAndi 2 ай бұрын

It depends on what you mean by "judging" them. If you recognize that it is harmful to them, their children, and many other people in their lives, that's not so much judging as it is an accurate assessment of the situation. If you recognize they have problems with self-respect, boundaries, standing up for themselves, it's not judging, it's a description of what they are doing and why they aren't getting out. I used to think it was always wrong to "judge" until I recognized that judgment also means, by definition, the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions.

@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew 2 ай бұрын

@@DrejaAndi It sounds like she did the right thing and got out, many abuse survivors aren’t that lucky.

@willedelman7960 2 ай бұрын

@@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew She got out according to her because her husband initiated the divorce and received custody of her child. She didn't publicly complain about his treatment until the marriage was over.

@DrejaAndi 2 ай бұрын

@@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew It sounds more like she was kicked out than got out. He left her. So it wasn't her decision that set her free. Now she's back on social media trying to make money from a new image. Time will tell if she's given up defending white supremacists and extreme rightwingers. Maybe she should try to go into a profession that actually helps people instead of trying to sell an image. But yes, things could have turned out much worse for her if they were still together.

@galacticwarlock2271 2 ай бұрын

It takes guts to come out like this. I 100% don't like her but she at least has more spine than any republican senator.

@faye_2 2 ай бұрын

To publicly announce, that you were wrong (espacially after you paraded so strongly for your previous point) is something only few people are capable of.

@dyodoleu 2 ай бұрын

Because she knows people outside the right wing spectrum are a LOT more forgiving, especially when someone falls victim. Like I despise Kaitlyn Jenner but you won't ever catch me being transphobic cause it got nothing to do with her as a person.

@beepbopboop7727 2 ай бұрын

Its only cause she lived in the woods and needed KZbin money.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

@@dyodoleu the left will hate someone for their actions while the right will hate someone for their identity

@themetatruthengineer1442 2 ай бұрын

I tried the trad wife life, and I was abused. And while I am not a fan of Lauren southern, she at least stands up about the dark reality of being a trad mom. It sounds good, but it can go to hell really quickly.

@FDR_progressive_liberal 2 ай бұрын

Any guy who wants a wife like that will be a lousy husband.

@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew 2 ай бұрын

💯

@Pilafian 2 ай бұрын

It’s frustrating that cenk keeps talking over Ana! Especially on the is topic that is about WOMEN, where Ana has lived experience, thus more expertise, thus I’d like to hear her take on it.

@shushuwu 2 ай бұрын

Lay your self down like a rug, don’t be surprised you get walked on!

@Mouse_007 2 ай бұрын

Smartest comment on this video, should be pinned to top of page.

@user-jz7hm2gy8x 2 ай бұрын

better single and happy than a married and a physical and a psychological punching bag.

@Free-Palestine 2 ай бұрын

As a Muslim who has encountered outrageous assertions about Islam and Muslims from her, I've never harbored any resentment towards her, and I still don't. Whether she revises her opinions on Islam and Muslims or not, she still has the right to be wrong, we all do. As for her marriage, not my business.

@willedelman7960 2 ай бұрын

It is okay if you feel that way. But she made her marriage other people's business by publicly broadcasting it.

@Free-Palestine 2 ай бұрын

@@willedelman7960 Agreed. Not something I would ever contemplate doing, personally.

@Estherbethe1... 2 ай бұрын

Christians who go after other Faith's conveniently forget their own history... And the majority don't even read their own bible. It's the same god of Abraham and who is anyone to say how gods servants should serve him. Each will give an account.

@richardmasten3508 2 ай бұрын

Convenient or fortunate that she got married in a country where divorce is legal. If you really want the "tradwife experience" get married in a country like Afghanistan.

@user-zl3wo1ux2t 2 ай бұрын

This is not Trad, its abuse.

@jesssss99610 2 ай бұрын

Cenk is 100% right here. Ana is comparing an honest mistake to someone espousing outright white supremacy and sexism. Kinda disturbing the way she feels the need to make excuses for that. You can say you’re glad she’s realized the error of her ways in one particular instance, while also acknowledging that shes said disgusting, racist and sexist things that she has not apologized for, and there’s no excuse for that.

@chrlpolk 2 ай бұрын

“Crossed state lines” for a year was not an honest mistake.

@StupidAnon-gn8ih 2 ай бұрын

@@chrlpolk You'd be surprised how often people repeat things for an extended period of time without checking their facts, because the sources they use make them believe they _have_ checked their facts. Like how a lot of people still believe Rittenhouse shot black people.

@dalekrenegade2596 2 ай бұрын

@@StupidAnon-gn8ih Yes he shot and killed black people that's just a fact

@Eagle-rv3iy 2 ай бұрын

It's almost like people have no idea wtf they are doing in their early 20s... maybe she shouldn't been given a spotlight as an influencer with 0 life experience

@shaniasmith284 2 ай бұрын

When I was a young girl who still believed, it was THIS bs about being submissive that made me question my church. After that I started actually looking into the bible and I was appalled by how churches glorify a book with such heinous acts. Change only happens when change is less painful than the norm. I didn't question my faith until I was made uncomfortable. Now as an adult atheist I literally cry over the BS I put myself through. Thankful I got out.

@Anonymous-sb9rr 2 ай бұрын

Getting married at 22 is normal, always being submissive is not.

@deem7478 2 ай бұрын

TradWife is "wife cosplay." 1950s dresses, pearl chokers, red lipstick, high heels. It's dress-up play. Real married couples both red and blue don't play this game.

@richardprice5978 2 ай бұрын

TradWife is "wife cosplay." 1950s dresses, pearl chokers, red lipstick, high heels. It's dress-up play. Real married couples both red and blue don't play this game. no parts of my family and they make it work for them and monogamous, not for me im queer 🏳‍🌈😉 , 🤠 👰🤠👰 /bi-triad/cube, so my ideal is a hybrid, yes some of the "cosplaying is there like/ie 👗👠and 🧥+👢is ( look i didn't get married to Buch/or/bare 😉 way to much macho/gayness/stubbornness-etc for me 👨🏻‍💼👨🏻‍💼👨🏻‍💼=pass ) there and default part-time/no-expectation's of work outside of homemaker for marriage-matriarchal-due's ( flip for dad-due's as im trying to keep comment shorter ) as kids need stability's-etc, but if home-choir's are done them yes outside resources ( and or fun-time, like cruise 🚢ing ) are welcome as long as it doesn't degrade the union/marriage/others members careers my grandma's both wore dresses/tom-boy+hateful-to-motherhooding ( her husband and WW2-1980~ at first as i understanding sucked as husband/fatherhood roles but tried to make up for it as a grampa/elder-years 17yo-him-her15~yo/1940 to 1995/RIP grandma vet=2014~RIP ) one being into it less in motherhood/20's but changed later on you almost described my grandma-mom's side add in marge/simsom's hair and the newsroom azzy's/rettia adutuded aka outside-family she's known for being judgmental+grumpy etc, but you can see at least for me/90's/50th' she really loved ( yes high school sweetheart's/marriage under 20 year's old ) my grandfather/her-husband , and loved living as a wealthy* socialite-type's for parenting and time vs $$ someone needs to become default ( socialism or neo capitalism, like uk's 🇬🇧 parliament-works* ) and or default leadership/role's so there's value in learning experience from my family and my close friends parents, thanks Rex 😉 i tried the voting everyday but wow is it a mess+tiring, there's a reason why USSR ~1890-1950~ ( Adam's capitalism also has this problem ) community started to resemble/1980~ fashion/dictators types of leadership

@josesarango3408 2 ай бұрын

Lauren has always been a narcisist, she hasn't changed

@Ryan-093 2 ай бұрын

she seems neurodivergent for sure, but idk if it's NPD.

@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew 2 ай бұрын

@@Ryan-093 What? Do you even know what that term means? Neurodivergence has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with narcissism. Neurodivergence can mean ADHD, dyslexia and any other type of learning disabilities, or autism. It just means that your brain is wired differently than neurotypical people.

@Ryan-093 2 ай бұрын

@@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew yes and NPD and BPD and such things are also part of neurodiversity too. idk what lauren has.

@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew 2 ай бұрын

@@Ryan-093 NPD and BPD are part of Cluster B personality disorders as is Antisocial personality disorder. Neurodivergence otoh is neurologically based. Sure being neurodivergent doesn’t exclude you from having a cluster B personality disorder or vice-versa but they aren’t the same condition. Neurotypicals can also have a Cluster B personality disorder as well.

@annchristine47 2 ай бұрын

They should introduce a class on narcissism in college to educate young women because it is becoming very clear that half the world is made up of narcissists.Of course narcissists come in all forms in both sexes.

@AG-xk6sq 2 ай бұрын

I’m glad she raised her voice at him and told him to hold on because it’s annoying when men interrupt and talk over us.

@haldareu 2 ай бұрын

I cheered when she yelled at him for interrupting her. Let us finish what we’re saying!!!!!

@aleinstein3223 2 ай бұрын

Don't take advice from a 20 year old. They haven't experienced life yet.

@MrDeplorable-sw9cz 2 ай бұрын

Or a leftist, they voted for the worst president in 70 years.

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

@@MrDeplorable-sw9cz leftists didn't vote for trump

@nicholasmills8843 2 ай бұрын

She's just the latest poster child for the whole "F**k around and find out thing." Now she's bitching about the consequences of her own actions. Zero sympathy.

@franciscomeza8905 2 ай бұрын

And they wonder why many women are somewhat "decentering men."? SHM.

@joshuawilliams6153 2 ай бұрын

Does she not have access to the internet? Women fought to leave that lifestyle for a reason.

@efrenespinoza4513 2 ай бұрын

Cenk obviously missed the point. Anna was discussing a really important topic that rarely gets mentioned (trad wives becoming victims of domestic violence) and all Cenk can do is talk over Anna (a woman) who is begging to talk (it seemed) about her own experience with DV… and Cenk couldn’t monopolize the conversation because it touched on his own religious and immigration wounds… let women speak!!

@efrenespinoza4513 2 ай бұрын

Sadly, one of the reasons I hesitate to become a paid subscriber to TYT

@imnobody115 2 ай бұрын

Right????

@questioneverything8572 2 ай бұрын

omg did cenk (a man) talk over anna (a woman)??? (((tragic)))! Thankfully we have (real) men like you who stand up for them (the women) !! Keep it up!

@breno3635 2 ай бұрын

What the hell are you talking about? Anna got her word in, she talked throughout most of this video. Cenk wanted to share his opinion too at the end, so what. The fact that she's a female doesn't matter, he's allowed to have an opinion too and share it just like Anna did

@medicinalplantsteacher 2 ай бұрын

"How the turn tables?" I wonder what kind of marks her husband received on the papers she wrote for him. Was it Trump University?

@medicinalplantsteacher 2 ай бұрын

@@UnclePumblechook Ah, I didn't know! I'm not much of watcher tv. ; - ]

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

fyi language evolves over time

@medicinalplantsteacher 2 ай бұрын

@@ryanjones4877 absolutely but I had not heard that phrase flipped before

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

@@medicinalplantsteacher i think it came from the american version of "the office"

@medicinalplantsteacher 2 ай бұрын

@@ryanjones4877 Someone helped me with that. I didn't know.

@kpepperl319 2 ай бұрын

I chose to be home and be a full time mom because it's actually cheaper than paying someone to look after our kids. Not once did my husband treats me like trash, and constantly ensuring me that i was a very important part of our relationship... Always the make sure to ask for my inputs. That's true love, true partnership.

@theindigopapillon3495 2 ай бұрын

Making the decision because financially it works out best is very different than making the decision because your husband believes women should be submissive. Two vastly different mentalities.

@Vladimiros82 2 ай бұрын

Then again, you didn't romanticize and fantasize about being treated like trash, like Lauren did

@ICon-sy7go 2 ай бұрын

Good ole republicans they can’t let go of that slave life.

@consciouslyevolvingmen6832 2 ай бұрын

Karma…too bad she can’t undo all the harm she caused by trying to meddle and shame others into her toxic and unhealthy ideology.

@mmhmmmyearight7183 2 ай бұрын

Just because her marriage sucked doesn’t mean it same for everyone

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

@@mmhmmmyearight7183 her marriage sucking shows the importance of the rights that feminists have fought so long for. in a real "traditional marriage" it would be legal to beat her (look up where the phrase "rule of thumb" comes from) and to even rape her (spousal rape was legal until a disgustingly short time ago). thanks to feminists she lived in a world where it was illegal for her husband to beat and rape her, and allowed her to divorce her husband without first getting his permission.

@PlsWaLuigiDomMe Ай бұрын

It is crazy to me because not only do they basically say all women are whores unless they get married they also basically encourage marrying strangers. Like they love to glamorize the idea that getting married to someone you’ve known for a couple months is based and if you just try hard enough it will work

@mdaddy775 2 ай бұрын

No sympathy for the devil.

@jahbloomie 2 ай бұрын

No enemies

@mdaddy775 2 ай бұрын

@@jahbloomie She's not an enemy, but I don't have sympathy for her

@jahbloomie 2 ай бұрын

@@mdaddy775 I have loads of it because she's me at a younger age. When the adults in your life put you in a mold you grow into an unnatural shape, just like a square melon. Very few of us have the opportunity to escape. Who's the devil here? Real victims are rare, but children raised in high control groups are. If not sympathy, could you find a spark of compassion?

@mdaddy775 2 ай бұрын

@@jahbloomie It's not her anti-feminist views, I have compassion for that and for you. It's the fact that Lauren relentlessly vilified and campaigned against Muslims and people of color for years and years.

@jahbloomie 2 ай бұрын

And thus you can see the cognitive dissonance for women in the Bible-believing quarter of our population. You either please the people who love you and raised you or with whom you have children or you break away and speak out. There is no safe harbor for figuring out what healthy choices might look like. The human brain matures at about the age of 25. She's still a child. What could a woman in this situation do differently to earn any shred of a humane response from you?

@franklingoodwin 2 ай бұрын

So one of her grifts backfired? Good

@loriannrichardson7644 2 ай бұрын

Who is Ana yelling at? Just because she sees yourself in that ignorant, cocky, narcissist girl, doesn't mean ish. She's publicly admitting her poor judgement because she needs to make a living, so OF COURSE she had to explain why she's back online after disappearing.

@TheJevardo 2 ай бұрын

Look, being a traditional wife could work… but the husband has to earn enough, they have to be kind, gentle, and empathetic towards their wife, and attentive to his children. You know, like a traditional man. Unfortunately those men are rarer than gold, especially these days, so women have to have a recourse: the ability to file for divorce, work a job for extra income, and ultimately the freedom to make a different choice if they need to.

@bonbonvegabon 2 ай бұрын

I'm glad that she finally came to her senses about her husband. Now hopefully she can become less racist!

@aeoligarlic4024 2 ай бұрын

I bet the republicans and right wing grifters are trying so hard to bury her story

@bodhisattva2348 2 ай бұрын

I do not feel bad for this woman.

@bomblade15 2 ай бұрын

She has years of rehab and awakening before I feel bad for her. She said awful things and hurt people. She led others to be awful and do awful things. I haven't heard her say she was hit, beaten, raped. But that is the reality for plenty of these trad wife households. She promoted this.

@Deenaguerr 2 ай бұрын

Huh? You don't think he abused her? Is there a hierarchy of abuse in your eyes? SHE needs years of rehab and awakening? Sounds a bit elitist... Does everyone need to spend money on years of rehab for you to feel bad for them? Sounds quite expensive. All in all, this woman sounds like she was brainwashed. I can't say she is a good person. It's clear her influence was awful, and is awful. However, abuse is not just getting beat, hit and raped. Just because she hasn't said those things doesn't mean they hadn't happened either. Perhaps there are legal reasons she feels like she can't. If anything I am just happy a survivor has come forward with their story and admitted they were wrong about a lifestyle they promoted Yes, it won't undo the past. But it was better she did this than stay silent about it. I don't know her current political ideology and I don't know her content, but change is a positive thing.

@bomblade15 2 ай бұрын

@@Deenaguerr You can rehab without spending a dime. It's not elitist at all. I just don't see the value of forgiving someone for no reason.

@bomblade15 2 ай бұрын

@avaguerr I didn't say they didn't happen. Or would you like to quote me where I did? I didn't say she wasn't abused either. However, she never said she was physically abused. Many women who are in this type of relationship are subject to what she want through and extra. She promoted this and she excused it.

@bomblade15 2 ай бұрын

@@UnclePumblechook Her husband didn't want her to work. Where did you get this from?

@bomblade15 2 ай бұрын

@@UnclePumblechook Just post the article. Just one of them.

@jrch5563 2 ай бұрын

Some people have to learn the hard way. It sounds like HE had a WHOLE LOT OF ISSUES.

@ericpleasant7225 2 ай бұрын

Just what do these female right-wingers and traditionalists expect? These so-called activists reap what they sew.

@BorkDoggo 2 ай бұрын

These are the same people who say stuff like "You chose the wrong man, so it's still your fault!!"

@feelthesun136 2 ай бұрын

she escaped a abusive relationship - very brave and strong of her.

@dawn-gk2tr 2 ай бұрын

No. He leftvher . A sh...thead but he probably got bored to death.

@johnm84 2 ай бұрын

@@dawn-gk2tr No wonder he left her. He is an asshole but so is she. She is an even bigger asshole.

@snoopycharlie8718 19 күн бұрын

The irony of this guy giving out about women giving up their rights but he doesn't seem to have issue with Islam

@EyeLean5280 7 күн бұрын

What are you even talking about? I've seen him critique Islam any number of times. I assume you're just a right-wing troll.

@julianatorrez5146 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a very young lady that choose to disregard the life lessions of the older women that came before her. When us older women try to break down the game so you wont get played, we are trying to save you years of your life that you cant get back....unfortunately she found out the hard way.

@MarmaladeINFP Ай бұрын

Listening to Lauren Southern's experience, that doesn't sound like traditional family values in the slightest. There are many traditional societies where women have more freedom and autonomy than that, sometimes where women hold most of the authority and power at home. Traditionalism isn't inevitably and always misogyny and male chauvinism, particularly not as a totalitarian ideology and totalizing social control. Certainly, being socially isolated, kept imprisoned, and treated as a housebound slave is not traditional, at least not in most traditional societies, although there are few such societies left that haven't been affected by modern fundamentalism. In traditional communities, women would be part of large extended kin networks where most work was communal. The attraction of traditionalism is the strong social connections and social support. Why is the Trad wife expected to do all the work while the Trad husband apparently does nothing, not even mowing the lawn? The Trad wife movement sounds more like modern authoritarianism as mixed with social dominance, patriarchal psychopathy, spousal abuse, and religious cultism. The nostalgic 1950s fantasy portrayed in old sitcoms was a modern invention of the postwar period when so many veterans had come home with PTSD, drug addictions, alcoholism, and mood disorders.

@GrumpyOldFart2 Ай бұрын

The whole tradwife thing is a bulls**t fantasy anyway. That was, as you say, a 1950s tv fantasy for the white middle/upper class family. Working/lower class women have ALWAYS worked.

@minniemoe4797 Ай бұрын

We don't know the real numbers of domestic abuse in 1950's because it wasn't investigated properly and most policemen and society in general considered domestic violence as a "family matter" no one would interfere. Also emotional abuse wasn't considered as an issue, and the term and defenitions for emotional abuse didn't exist.

@chrisrasku2261 2 ай бұрын

You get no sympathy from me. You probably influenced and ruined many young ladies' lives.

@jamie_lou 2 ай бұрын

Yes, and hopefully she will spend her whole life trying to undo her wrongs. Some people can't help the way they were raised. They don't know that they've been brainwashed. Watch the documentary "Shining Happy People." It will give you some empathy for the poor women who are raised in this insane ideology.

@dyodoleu 2 ай бұрын

"I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. 🙄 Anyway, didn't interact in a while with this channel after the transphobia, yall still about that life or....?

@screech5360 2 ай бұрын

One could say, after moving to Australia as a tradwife, Lauren's life went... Southern. I'll see myself out.

@MissKellyBean 2 ай бұрын

I'm curious to know what was said on this channel that makes you think they're transphobic? (Not a summary of what you think they meant, but exactly what was said...)

@tracyhuddlestun2560 2 ай бұрын

Whatever university he went to should revoke everything now that they know SHE did his homework.

@EHSPianoMan 2 ай бұрын

Yo! ^Bump this!

@ryanjones4877 2 ай бұрын

She'd have to provide evidence, otherwise every bitter ex would claim it to hurt their ex

@trumpsAnti-ChristsREvil 2 ай бұрын

ah, it was trump uni., majoring in graft and indoctrination