What's The Best Loadouts in Helldivers 2? (Primary Weapons, Support, and Stratagems) After Patch

[@thiccfila]

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[@Einsig]

You can kill a tank with one recoilless shot to the underside before they get dropped. The have basically no amor there.

[@scotthicks7050]

Came here to say this. 👏🏾 They also stay glitched and float in the air wen you do this.

[@aldarrin]

Thicc seriously put in the effort for this video. Like 10-11 hours of non-stop testing. Well done man!

[@echo5827]

Yes 10 hours of "testing" a video game. I'm gonna go "test" for 8hrs

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

I have been using the HMG replacement a LOT now! It’s incredibly fun against bots and just mows everything down. SO freaking fun!

[@Aegxs]

As someone who ran heavy armor even when it was objectively worse at launch, heavy armor feels terrible now. The limb damage change feels like far too much, even Servo Assisted doesn’t help that much when SA doesn’t affect main HP pools. I mean what real difference is made now when you can run light armor and be hit down to 15% versus being hit down to 45% in heavy armor? Both won’t survive a second hit and will need to stim. Against terminids it feels like every other hit without SA breaks a limb. I’d honestly take 100% received headshot damage back

[@uwize5897]

someones already complaining about the changes

[@protonjones54]

I 100% agree

[@spookiboys]

yeah heavy armor is sorta just back to being a really bad option which sucks

[@Swampdonkey796]

@@uwize5897 bad changes should be complained about. Did you not get the memo about meat riders losing the galactic war?

[@PhillyThug]

​@@uwize5897 complaints are what got us these good buffs in the first place man. Besides this is objectively a problem worth mentioning and fixing, look at Eravin's video.

[@angelcastiel7876]

Not including the napalm orbital is a crime

[@diogorocha9837]

Like not using the Quasar or EAT in favor of Railgun.

[@Morfik45]

@@diogorocha9837 the fact that Quasar can oneshot fabricators anywhere is neat, i mostly like it because of the infinite ammo, but the charegup and recharge makes it very tricky to use, but if we would count it as a "reload" then its not that bad because we can move at the same time, while other rocket launchers makes us stationary

[@MaXiMuS-u9k]

Its kind of lame for how broken it is though, but it looks too cool

[@robadams12]

Ironically the use of napalm is also a crime.

[@dripwastaken7884]

If they now give every ar drum mags everything is perfect

[@thiccfila]

^^^^^^^^^^

[@lolersauresrex8837]

I’m thinking we will get some kind of attachment system and will probably get access to at least extended mags.

[@connertomaterhater6691]

50 round box mags would look better.

[@HalIOfFamer]

I long to use the Mariana from starship troopers

[@KrullKama]

@@HalIOfFamerthe morita, heck yeah

[@harryevans4994]

people rave about the Dilligence CS for bots, but its actually insanely good on bugs now too. 1 shot to all the small bugs, 3 shots through a hive guard head, and 3 to break a brood head (4 for alphas). great for cleaning up bugs at a distance and pair it with the stalwart for a massively manoeuvrable mobbing loadout. thermites and OPS for heavies too.

[@jalontf2]

My bot loadout is almost identical both for weapons and strats! Only differences are I bring MG Sentry instead of HMGE (spammable to deal with trash mobs) and a barrage for base clearing instead of Orbital Gas.

[@thiccfila]

I get in those bases and set up to kill farm it

[@Magnusfication]

Same here, i always go for the walking barrage nowadays

[@michaelcharles7757]

The best loadout is experience brothers. Happy diving.

[@NhemF]

I did DCS, Thermite, Senator, Mortar, AC sentry, gas strike and Amr last night with guerilla gorrila armor and died zero times last night, just placed the mortar behind cover, placed the autocannon high up and didn't stick around anywhere for too long, scopes on 200m

[@mahks-pectith3179]

"In my book, experience outranks everything."

[@onji5213]

Machine Gun, supply pack is the play on bugs. Take any primary you like, Nade pistol and Thermite nades and you can take down anything. Charger or Titan? Thermite. You're out of thermite? Backpack. Hunters horde? Hive guard horde? A bug breach? MACHINE GUN! Add gas strike and 500kg and you're unstoppable

[@Epicmonk117]

Medium machine gun or heavy?

[@TheDarkgunner15]

Heavy is good but medium has way more ammo so it's better for actually fighting swarms​@@Epicmonk117

[@DanielFrankowski]

@@Epicmonk117 Imho, heavy is good only for killing bots, and normal machine gun is usefull only for bugs. But not including napalm orbital is the worst crime i can imagine XD

[@protonjones54]

Great strategy guide bro, except there's literally 3 different MGs in the game

[@spookiboys]

there's only one called "Machine Gun" tho

[@pruett89]

Counter sniper is SOOO fun to use now! It’s been my GO TO since the patch.

[@Heyoo414]

I'm so ass with that gun, I want to use it on bots but I like playing in third person aim, so the drag kinda kills me. I'm not good with it lol

[@vulcanmm6573]

@@Heyoo414if you don’t mind being limited to certain armours the viper commando warbond armours give peak physique which helps with weapon drag really good to run with weapons like that

[@rainydayz2447]

I’m loving it. It’s like a longer range Dominator

[@TheGroveinator]

I've even been liking the normal diligence on bots. Feels like a nice side grade if you're comfortable getting those headshots for more ammo and a better scope Imo.

[@iamkablam8096]

As someone who absolutely adores the Punisher Plasma for bot missions, I’m feeling more and more tempted to try the Explosive Crossbow.

[@austinhess4967]

I never used it till the buff. Just to mess around, and holy cow. It's not only fun to use but also super effective! Great on both bot and bug missions.

[@Magnusfication]

Same, i mained the plasma, but now i really like the crossbow. Its more consistent in killing devestators. Especially the bezerkers seem very resistant to the plasma punisher for some reason.

[@iamkablam8096]

@@Magnusfication maybe they’ll buff all the plasma weapons next patch. They already confirmed the Purifier is getting a buff so it would make sense to buff the other two plasma weapons.

[@salvarious]

Punisher plasma is my default bot weapon, but crossbow is one of the best primaries in the game. crossbow can open loot crates & one shot fabricators, which can free up the rest of your loadout options.

[@Kragh50]

I was a plasma punisher main, but now I'm only using crossbow

[@mwrobins11]

I see the value of using the recoiless against bots, but I still prefer the spear. Being a able to easily take out the turret cannons from across the map is my fav.

[@Magnusfication]

And for some reason the recoilles struggles against turrets. Id rather us3 2 commando shots as theyre more reliable.

[@eirikjohnsbraten6370]

Don't sleep on the gas armor against bugs. If you're surrounded, just run .into. the gas cloud and bait the enemies in. Then finish them off with your favourite close range weapon.

[@thiccfila]

I just stim when I get gassed. Only the orbital can really kill you, the others don't deal much damage

[@eirikjohnsbraten6370]

That works too, if you have the stims to spare :D

[@mattm3023]

This is my favorite kind of video and its also proof of how much fun the new buff patch and warbond is. Completely new tactics and playstyles

[@rodrigoserrano75]

Bugs- Blitzer and GL with thermite granades / Strats - napalm barrage, recoiless rifle, napalm or normal airstrike or 500kg and any turret you like, this is what works out for me and I recommend giving a try

[@dragonstrike406]

Next time we get an automaton kill MO, we gotta sit in front of the towers and just farm the tin-cans.

[@RiceCubeTech]

My favorite bot loadout lately Crossbow, thermite (for destroying favs from the side and over walls), dagger, medium grenade armor then use 500Kg Orbital 380, supply pack, and rail gun. The crossbow can kill shielded devestators way more easily since you get stagger and its easier to hit than the rail gun hitting the smaller face target due to the shield and rail gun one shots to the face everything else. My favorite bug loadout is the exact same except swap the 380 for napalm barrage and the rail gun for any sort of mob clear support gun like the arc or MG. Having the crossbow for closing those big bug nests is awesome. Can get all the holes closed without having to resupply.

[@infestedpotatoes]

My slugger shot gun did some absolute WORK last night in botsville. We held the dam line!

[@Genshis]

Try the dominator is almost the same but better.

[@T2rx6]

When is Arrowhead giving us loadouts that we can save?!

[@claudeb3673]

Ooooh that would be sweet. Like 4-5 saved loadouts and you can give them funny names

[@El_Psy_Kongroo_]

That would go against their policy to try to coerce players into using different weapons. Yours is a great idea, though.

[@T2rx6]

@@El_Psy_Kongroo_ I don't know if I could set up a handful of loadouts with combos of weapons I want to try then it's not really contributing to the problem. Plus regardless what they do to weapons.. End of the day people are going to settle into their favorite thing they found and not necessarily constantly bounce between weapons. So having that favorite loadout we like running would be awesome.

[@seanbraden8756]

I really like the concusive on both sides

[@SoraTheKobold]

hi thicc hi hiiii :333 also recoiless has been super fun but for me, the support playstyles this patch have been the most fun thing for me the stim pistol needs some aim assist though because it's annoying as heck to aim

[@thiccfila]

lolol pilestedt seen the stim pistol aim and said "what the hell is going on" hi sora :)

[@firedrake6277]

I love the crossbow, my build for it is quasar, supply backpack, dagger, and stuns for bugs it's especially effective against bile spewers

[@thiccfila]

I'm surprised you don't use the bush whacka

[@firedrake6277]

@thiccfila don't have war bond lol, but also it can kill shriekers effectively

[@thiccfila]

True

[@MMOplayeerr]

I use the crossbow with jetpack. I hope they buff the jetpack in the next balance patch. Both shield/laser dog or supply pack would be better for survival imo, but jetpack is just so fun and actually you can get some pretty nice places with it where not even the hunters jump/climb up and you can rain down from there with the crossbow. Also, I love jetpack for bughole closing, the nests are like craters and without jetpack, there are just certain points where you can exit from the crater, but with the jetpack, you can dodge the enemies in the crater really effectively, while jumping to the next bug hole and then also use the jetpack to jump out of the crater. Its a lot of fun.

[@harryevans4994]

they did confirm they’d look at the jetpack in the next patch, im excited

[@nightswatcher]

I also use crossbow for bugs. But I pair it with the flame thrower. I use the crossbow for distance, bug holes, and spewers. Then pull the flame thrower out for general mobs and the bigger guys.

[@thiccfila]

That sounds fun

[@doglog5748]

Secondary has to be able to clear chafe if enemy gets too close

[@robertjewer4411]

@@doglog5748 Whenever I run that same loadout (sometimes eruptor instead of crossbow) I'll take a guard dog to keep the lil dickheads at bay plus either bushwhacker or senator (dagger is solid now as well). But if there's a whole horde comin at you just switch to flamethrower and light em up

[@ramsenc]

I like Commando + Crossbow against Chargers since you can Commando one shot the leg and 2 shot with Crossbow to finish. That's 4 Charger kills in one call in.

[@M3rrimack]

I honestly have had choice paralysis on the bot side since the patch. Everything feels so viable and if I don’t want to run a dedicated anti tank stratagem, I can always bring the thermite grenades

[@patrickhuffman9632]

Your generally positive attitude is what keeps me on your channel.

[@thiccfila]

There was a minute there the devs got me triggered tho lol

[@aperson4721]

I feel like the Gatling barrage got buffed because i see it killing tanks and hulks and with the almost 15 seconds uptime and 60 second cd i love it vs bots

[@alessandronicastri4172]

7:29 "Literally the only enemy that is not reliable to kill with the HMG Emplacement is the tanks". Proceeds to immediately kill a tank as it drops in front of the emplacement :D

[@thiccfila]

Lol hey if you get the opening they get shredded

[@jonathandejesus9494]

The video I was waiting, (especially for this major order) thank you

[@gamorka]

Best part 13:26 The Amau

[@diogorocha9837]

Interesting video. I will say my builds just for example sake. Bugs: Cookout/Blitzer GP Stun Quasar Supply Backpack Orbital Napalm Barrage Eagle Airstrike Bots: Crossbow Veredict/Dagger Stun Railgun Supply Backpack Orbital Precision Strike Eagle Airstrike Supply Backpack is necessary for me now. It gives us so much freedom to play and survivability with a lot of stims and stuns.

[@thiccfila]

Crossbow dagger is such a solid combo it's great. And railgun feels great against both factions, I just enjoy recoilless against bots more rn

[@doglog5748]

Supply backpack with the blitzer and queso seems quite unnecessary

[@diogorocha9837]

@@doglog5748 Most of the time I use Cookout a lot to spam shoot everything and the GP to finish medium armor enemies. But you are right, when running Blitzer + Quasar you can choose another stratagem for that slot.

[@Kywu]

problem with railgun is that you can't reliably kill tanks and fabricators/strider fabricator

[@linkrocks1120]

the crossbow took over the eruptor in my combo with the stalwart, amazing for dealing the bile spewers and prue mobing, i should try it out with dog breath cause stalwart stuggles with charging brood commanders

[@HerobrinesPizzaGuy]

Finally, a meta of no meta, just having fun. Some things are a little too strong, but nothings so broken (except you thermite grenade dont think we didnt see you) that its absolutely necessary to run anymore

[@TombstoneThe]

my build ive been rocking for Bugs for Difficulty 10 with my premade: -30% Recoil + 2 max/starting grenades armour Liberator Penetrator Grenade Pistol Thermites Mech (either or) Supply Pack Medium MG Rocket Sentry/Mounted Machinegun I dont use the mechs myself, i have a buddy who also takes mechs and is our dedicated pilot. my function is to preserve the health/ammo of his mech by wiping out smaller enemies around him, especially on the defense, and using Thermites to kill off isolated armour enemies in patrols/guard posts. supply pack is supportive but also allows me to use stims/thermites with reckless abandon

[@SevericK_BooM]

The game has actually gotten a bit harder at level 10 as a solo player because there’s a lot of noobdivers pushing diffs they don’t belong in

[@s_t_r_a_y_e_d]

with the new gasmask helmet from acquisitions I've been doing nothing but machine guns/heavy machine guns with supply pack for maximum Jin Roh Wolf Brigade action

[@miemsliva4464]

Concussive has been pretty fun, my only gripe is that it "over-does-it" against warriors/hunters, making them stagger around like they're drunk for multiple steps, might even do it to Brood Commanders. Aside from that, it's great and I enjoy staggerlocking Hive Guards, Spewers, Berserkers, Devastators, keeping them in place until they die is just the best. However... it does just make me want a Liberator/Lib-Carbine/Lib-pen with a medium sized Box mag.

[@reaperinstincts8159]

my favorite thing about recent patch is that there isnt a need for meta. obviously there will be better setups but almost everything feels viable

[@thearchivist250]

Against the bots, I almost always bring the HMG sentry and EMP/Rocket sentry. It’s easy to get swarmed, so I love having two sentries available to throw out to destract the bots, and I can shoot the rest myself. Recoilless is 100% the best. I still like Eruptor, but I’ll give the crossbow more love.

[@AstraKitsune]

Guard dog rover aka laser one is teamkilling machine now, instantly kills divers.

[@tbtb771]

Don’t you think it’s strange that crossbow is stronger than Eruptor?

[@austinhess4967]

Kinda true haha

[@n3m37h]

Told ya the CB-9 is bloody awesome

[@courier6448]

Ive been playing support diver. Stim gun and resupply pack. I like keeping my teammates in the fight. And the constant "thank you 🙂" gives me dopamine

[@icata12345]

i still feel shield backpack is chill gaming on bugs and with this crossbow fiesta, expo armor also helps a ton

[@vampRaziel]

Pretty long video to say you just really love crossbow.

[@KorbanDallas1914]

Dont forget the arc thrower no matter wich enemie fraction. He is back and goated

[@thiccfila]

I hate shooting it it's so slow lol

[@MMOplayeerr]

@@thiccfila The devs probably think, making it faster now with the recent buffs would make it too strong, but Its not particularly strong against chargers/hulks and Its not good against titans either, so faster rate of fire wouldnt really make it an all around killer, but a better mobber and even better weapon for alpha commanders and overall crowd control and I think It would be acceptable and not too strong. But, if not the firerate, they definitely need to fix the targeting and make it so dead bodies dont mess up the whole weapon.

[@KorbanDallas1914]

@@thiccfila yeah the firerate is niche but i literally control the whole battlefront with that bad boi.

[@scotthicks7050]

@@thiccfilayou can really increse the speed after a few shots if you know the rhythm. It also stunlocks chargers and hulks while killing the chaff around them.

[@Alsborg]

​@@MMOplayeerrU with good position can permastun three Bruiser Hulks

[@SavagexRaccoon]

There’s so much variety to use on the stratagems but the primaries still feel lackluster I really hope the the attachments will help bring them up a bit 😅

[@dyn7006]

Hey thicc love the vid. I have a question though, what armor did you use for the bug build?

[@thiccfila]

Light grenade, but Light medic is fine too. I'm about to start wearing Light fire resist so I don't die to my friends guard dog

[@Maxsmack]

Plans-1 scorcher only had light armor one, but explosive ammo. So every bullet does aoe dmg armor penetration. It deals with heavy devastators like a champ

[@arcticarctic3034]

Plas-1 have medium1 armor penetration. Check on wiki. 100 ballistic damage, and 100 aoe damage.

[@bmobmo9384]

Grenade launcher vs bugs with anti tanks spammed around has been my go to for bugs for a few weeks

[@zerowt6650]

Same, using it in combination with supply backpack and 2 anti charger/titan stratagems.

[@obgaming101]

For bugs: 500kg/orbital precision strike, eagle, railgun/quasar shield pack, breaker incendiary, g pistol all day.

[@KrullKama]

We’ve been doing randomized runs and I swear super Jesus is having a giggle. 6 missions in a row Throwing knife

[@willwhite6628]

How did you get the cat ears on the helmet?

[@Kopa_Malphas]

X-Bow is great, it means we need BETTER ERUPTOR SHRAPNEL!

[@dripwastaken7884]

50% more shrapnel and make it shoot out in a 130-160 degree cone AND make shrapnel able to bounce off the floor

[@Parmesan.314]

How did you get the cat ears on your helmet? I've never seen that before, is that a mod?

[@austinhess4967]

Gotta be a mod haha

[@DOSdaze]

Yeah you can get it at Nexus mods.

[@17DogsInClogs]

HMG emplacement is so fucking fun now

[@miemsliva4464]

On the topic of the RR. Vs. Hulks: Shootingg them in either arm also seems to down them in one shot given the damage transfer from limbs to the body. I could be wrong and be hitting them in their large upper body, or maybe their 'shoulder' pauldron on their gun arm transfers more damage than shooting strictly the gun, I am unsure.

[@megafred9893]

You guys should try out the ballistic shield on bots, with crossbow it’s invincible

[@redmountain02]

Thicc do you know if gas damages sentries? I see potential in throwing random sentries and gas (grenades or orbital) on them for bugs to run in and die to

[@potatoking6308]

brother just put out my current personal bots loadout lmao

[@thiccfila]

No it's my build

[@Rashed1255]

I’ve insta killed tanks, IFVs, & factory striders by destroying the ship by shooting ship anywhere, does it not??

[@SavagexRaccoon]

I can’t wait till clay rips this apart 😅

[@jegantdragoch.7088]

another great video thicc

[@billybats3244]

How do I get those cat ears

[@doctoroptical952]

Hows everyone getting those custom models, is there a way to mod the game and play on the servers im unaware of?

[@thiccfila]

Nexus mods

[@doctoroptical952]

​@@thiccfilathat won't trigger the anti cheat or anything?

[@Trashlord88]

Thicc and I have the exact same bot build. Righteous.

[@thiccfila]

Explosions

[@casicyber9842]

how do i get cat ear helmet? D:

[@FergTurguson]

i just want cat ears.....

[@RakEXE-dn5xe]

I think that the mortar sentry got a buff i swear i saw it breaking the dropships in half multiple times

[@thiccfila]

Idk about that one lol

[@Soarin_Skys]

Starting to like slugger plasma getting used to the range. Some reason striders don't get knockedback they stand still which is weird.

[@xainey2454]

Counter sniper stratagem with shield pack against bots trust

[@MrSierra116]

The meta is every weapon now, and because of that, there is no meta Even Liberator's TTK is shorter now, though higher RoF on the Lib Concussion would be nice I was pretty negative about all the nerfs, but so far the game is very fun now, yet still decently hard for solo player

[@hagusbristol7346]

Where did gwt that helmet i never seen it before.

[@sulfuricanaljuice3994]

Ask twinbeard nicely enough he will give it to you

[@myfer6953]

its a mod on the nexusmods website

[@y2ggaming397]

a majority of support weapons feel viable but not all weapons in general, especially primary weapons

[@epsilon1372]

I think enough are viable that you still have a lot of choices. Plus the purifier is getting buffed next patch

[@mcwolves71]

Thicc all cleaned up

[@patrickhuffman9632]

Machine gun max is god tier ❤

[@Alsborg]

I need a Primary weapon for my Bot Build: - ArcThrower - Thermite - Shield Energy - Rocket Sentry - EMS Mortar Sentry

[@thiccfila]

Purifier

[@Alsborg]

@@thiccfila troll?? ~_~ xDD

[@CraftingC06]

scorcher for gunships

[@modernchicken4980]

thanks, I havent played in awhile so idfk whats good or even how stuff works lol.

[@jhin4speed4444]

HMGE AC sentry Rocket sentry and RR on their way to work at both factions

[@minikilla3568]

I’ve gotta say the spray and prey feels amazing coming back after months of putting the game off until the entire thing died down. I also saw that they made flamethrowers back to their normal damage which is amazing because I loved setting everything on fire.

[@zero11010]

* Medium padded armor. Get heavy armor rating with medium speed and stamina. Extra armor is worth it. It’s stronger than medical perk (which was best in slot before the update) and stronger than more grenades. * crossbow * verdict pistol for littles and things that get close. * thermite grenade for more heavy killing. * ballistic shield. This makes you a tank and it meshes with the crossbow. Much stronger than the shield generator pack. * quasar. Limitless heavy killing. EAT is also fine. Both are also strong on fabricators. * airstrike. Crowd control. It can also take out a heavy. Good area of effect. More uses than 500k. * 120mm. These take out almost anything the 500k does. It softens up medium and heavy bases. Takes out things like mortar or grounded drop ships. It also recharges quickly so you get more uses than most other barrages.

[@zero11010]

For bugs … * light medic armor * crossbow * verdict or dagger * thermite * rover * machine gun sentry. Use this on cooldown. It’s huge. * orbital Gatling barrage for breach control. Machine gun works for this also. * 120mm for medium and large hives. Crossbow to finish them off.

[@thiccfila]

Quasar doesn't shoot down dropships to the body or 1 shot tanks

[@zero11010]

@@thiccfila the engines on drop ships are pretty big targets, and I think it one shots tanks in the vulnerable spot. The recoilless HAS to do more damage. You get like 6 shots and what is the cooldown time on the strategem? What’s the fire rate of the quasar and how many shots do you get in that amount of time? Many more shots at slightly less damage per round feels like a good trade off to me. Just personal preference I guess. 😄

[@Deltarious]

It's interesting that you find heavy armor so bad now, I've been finding it extra helpful this patch and I tend to out survive my teamates hit by the same stuff *significantly* on the bot front. I take the heavy armor + 50% explosive resist + health booster and I find I survive *most* things that one shot unless it's directly to the forehead, if I take the shield as well I survive pretty much all one shots unless I get unlucky and ragdoll hard into something. I also recently changed my aproach on the bug front and am taking the 200 armor set since I figure most of my deaths bot side are explosion related (seems to be true) and not at all bug side and I was having really good results with that too, usually surviving most atacks *just barely* which tells me I am likely hitting just inside of a break point there Most of my armor choices are related to dying from a single attack or 'instance' where I make a mistake since I am not frequently in situations where I am exposed to taking a hit and then needing to take another hit right after in a way where being able to run a little faster would give me more of a chance. It does happen though and I do sometimes feel as though the movement speed would help a little, but those situations happen to me a lot less than screwing up and getting blasted by something, which if I'm not in heavy armor I just instantly die. I probably need to do more testing on it myself though if people's opinions are so strong on it

[@McSpicyYT]

For bugs I go with countersniper, grenade pistol, thermite, throwing-arm armor (+50% throwing range cuz why not), 500kg, napalm barrage, emancipator mech suit, recoilless rifle.

[@jotairpontes]

I just love the amount of viable weapons that we have now. It's amazing!

[@cptnuclearrhino114]

Thicc's beard has been stolen, how could JOEL do this to us?

[@makebritaingreatagain2613]

Primaries vs. Bots 1:20 Armour vs. Bots 5:33 Strategems vs. Bots 5:59

[@pablocuixeres830]

My favourite loadout to play with randoms (which I always do) against bots: - Purifier - Dagger - Thermite ------ - The anti-explosion medium armor (from the store I think?) ------ - Quasar - Eagle strafing run - Gas strike - Gatling barrage I love this loadout because of the ammo economy; if your teammates split and use the supply drop on the other side of the map or if one is an ass and take 2 or 3 supplies, you can still survive pretty long thanks to infinite ammo of the Quasar and the Dagger, and the excellent ammo economy of the Purifier (which is the most slept on weapon in the game on the bot side btw...). Good at range, good at taking down packs of devastators, good at killing attack ships... Combined with the Dagger it's very effective! I also love this loadout because you have a free backpack slot, which I use to pick up extra backpacks from other players when available, and that happens quite often!

[@ToySoldierRazor]

Your Bot setup is...about what I settled on myself. I've always loved the Crossbow (even when it was bad) and there's always the alternate option of bringing a Quasar or Laser Cannon along with a Ballistic Shield. Gas Orbital has been living in one of my strategem slots, and I've also been making a lot of use out of the 500k and Napalm Orbital Barrage on both Bots and Bugs. The 500k's increased area of effect is especially powerful on bugs, since you can clear out entire nests in one well-placed toss. I am normally Medium all the way when it comes to armor, but I've been using Heavy lately on bots and it's been feeling way better. As a disclaimer I use Peak Physique armor mainly for the looks but the aiming responsiveness and even melee damage aren't unwelcome. With bots, though, I've definitely had the Heavy Armor letting me survive a LOT more than I was with Medium, as getting ragdolled by a random rocket or cannon isn't a death sentence. For bugs, one build I had a lot of fun with was going for a demolitionist. It's not a 'do everything' build but it WAS a lot of fun. Crossbow or Eruptor, Grenade Pistol, Thermite Grenades, Grenade Launcher, Supply Pack, Rocket Turret, and the 500kg. Use Peak Physique here, not Explosive Resistance. Why? Because if bugs manage to get up in your face, it's usually Scavengers, Hunters, or Warriors, and with the bonus melee damage you can easily take down a small pack of them in a fistfight. Anything bigger you can run and gun.

[@ryenpdf]

For bugs, I run napalm barrage, 500kg, RR, and rocket placement. Including the blitzer, thermites, and grenade pistol w the localization confusion booster. Genuinely my favorite loudout for 9-10

[@Epicmonk117]

Here’s what I’ve been rocking: BOTS: - Crossbow - Dagger - Flashbangs or Sparklers - Medium armor with Democracy Protects - Railgun - Supply Pack - Eagle 500 - Shield Generator Emplacement BUGS: - Crossbow - Dagger - Flashbangs or Sparklers - Light armor with Engineering Kit, Field Medic, or Fortified - Medium Machine Gun - Supply Pack - Eagle 500 - Orbital Napalm

[@robocreator223]

for bots my loadout is now actually heavy fortify armor, i switched off medium grenade armor recently because of all the chip damage, it seems to me to reduce it enough where i'm ok holding the damage for a little bit rather than stimming after every hit. I take AC, 500kg strafing run and the ORC. Scorcher, verdict, and then impact incendiaries. AC is just a general answer to virtually everything on bot front as is. if i need some big booms, 500kg has me covered, strafing run if i just need a little bit extra pin point fire power in front of me and ORC for when i just want the bad man removed from my screen

[@zero11010]

All of the heavy focused weapons are very effective now! Recoilless is great. But, so is the EAT, and the quasar, and the thermite grenade. Thermite grenade is pretty outstanding on higher difficulty to get those three extra heavy killing shots (half a Rrcoilless pack and easy to resupply). The reload time of the recoilless and the limited ammo is tricky at times. Never running out of ammo on the quasar has been huge. You can hit fabricators from a long way away. Or take out those hulks. A single hit anywhere on a cannon turret will mostly do it, a quasar plus a crossbow shot does it regardless of facing. You can freely always turn to take put a bot drop or a gunship. You dont have to be careful with your ammo. I don’t feel like there is as much differentiation between the heavy killers. They feel almost the same (there are subtle differences).

[@yomi7009]

Pummeler is the best automatic weapon in the game Pummeler + Bushwacker or Scythe Orbital Gas/EMS + Orbital Barrage + Eagle Napalm + Recoilless Rifle Napalm Nades (BUGS) / EMS (bots) Idk if anybodys tried this. But i been running this since the patch and no other build has been doing me justice like that

[@zero11010]

Medical armor isn’t as good as it was because you die so quickly from the shots even with medium. Wear medium padded armor, and always bring vitality booster. It’s heavy armor rating, but with medium speed and stamina.

[@wojtekdunaszewski4741]

I absolutely love that bot loadout!! RR fanatic - from the start. Dagger entusiast - long back. Crossbow admirer - yes, but from a distance, since it never was good, until now. I wanted it to be good. And now, my absolute #1 authority in HD2 says it's the best loadout for returning players? Smack me on my butt and call me Laurie, I'm in!

[@Mixinok]

Wrong. Everything is the best loadout because The Ministry Of Defence can’t do bad equipment

[@Lakilazur713]

I run crossbow, Dagger, thermite, medium extra stims armour. with the 500 kg, orbital Gatling garage, backpack shield generator, and quasar. I would be running the eagle airstrike but having two eagles kind of sucks

[@Kywu]

For bots i use : Vulkan Redeemer or others, doesn't much matter Recoiless rifle is pretty much mandatory versus bots even tho i might try laser a bit more Eagle 500 Mortar sentry because of the range to clear some bots MG is cool too Napalm orbital or 380 mm for bases