Things I've Learned from Barry Harris Episode 23 All the Things You Are Guitar

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Things I've Learned From Barry Harris

Things I've Learned From Barry Harris

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@johnslaughter349
@johnslaughter349 6 жыл бұрын
Really great lesson. Thank you so much for doing these. It's really great to see Barry's ideas clearly explained in a guitar centric way.
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Please share with your musician friends.
@paulsenior7745
@paulsenior7745 6 жыл бұрын
I've never tried to learn A.T.T.Y.A. before but I do like the tune a lot. I mostly listen to Monk's version of it, but the way he plays is beyond me right now. What I really got out of your lesson is how you showed where that common little movement that Barry teaches (I'll call it I6-IV6-Idim7-I6) occurs in 2 spots; the 1st and 2nd bar and the 5th and 6th bars. I have seen Barry do this movement a lot when playing Blues and "I Got Rhythm" changes, but never noticed it in Standards. I'm not a guitarist, but I like how you simply explain what Drop 2, Drop 3, Drop 2 Drop 4 voicings on the instrument. My problem with comping is not so much the harmonies but the rhythms. I always refer back to the video where Barry is teaching a pianist how to comp on Tenor Madness. He tells the pianist "You know the chords sort of straight. You have to learn how to do this." Then, he demos a lot of wonderful stuff using that common little movement I mention above, plus several others and tells you what pianists you need to listen to and emulate. I really need to practice some of his rhythmic exercises with the metronome and try to understand better some of the stuff he says, like "The and of the 2 takes the and of the 4." This leads me to believe he has a system of rules in place for playing bebop rhythms as well as harmonies.
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughts Paul. I'm not aware of any system of rules regarding bebop rhythms. When Barry talks about rhythm it is usually about what feels good. It's completely natural for him. I guess it is a result of hearing such wonderful music his whole life. (A lot of the times in person and on the bandstand.)
@AntarblueGarneau
@AntarblueGarneau 4 жыл бұрын
I've been working on your stuff last 4 days! Right now Rhythm Changes A and bridge. Before that I was working on making etudes of lines I wanna learn on tunes and learning the etudes well enough to make a video and post on YT and FB where I have a small fan base. I find this a very good way to add new lines to my playing. Not that I've had trouble improvising before but when it comes to adding new lines devices and concepts I've forgotten more lines that I have learned in 40 years! I've done it on about 5 tunes and made 5 videos: "Old Folks," "You've Changed," "All of You" etc. I've been making a solo etude for "Four" and "Stella" when I collided with your videos! I've been looking for a system that is integral and where I can make lines in the moment according to musical principles rather that rattling of licks or variations of licks. I think it's more important to learn the concept than the lick Here it is! After 40 years! I absorbed Sheryl Bailey's stuff on the bebop scale and her family of 4 chords and I've worked from some of Barry's videos so this stuff is very comprehensible to me)) Working now on a solo etude for Oleo using Barry's concepts thru you. The difficulty I'm having is deciding what lines to use because I keep endlessly generating lines! Thx! That's where I wanna be ))
@TamirGal
@TamirGal 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, How would you do scale outline on first couple of bars of 'All the things you are'? Specifically on Fm -> Bbm... thanks
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
I have to think about it. I've never been at a class where Barry has done it. I'll get back to you on this one.
@alistaircornacchio5727
@alistaircornacchio5727 3 жыл бұрын
@@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 I've really been struggling with scale outlines on green dolphin street, especially the parts with half diminished chords. Do you know how to navigate those changes with the outline?
@yortchiang7570
@yortchiang7570 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a book on chords diminished flat 6 and inversions that are tabbed for the guitar community...this would accelerate learning in standard for sure....
@PeteMartinMandolin
@PeteMartinMandolin 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Chris! Maybe sometime you can make a video that sums up all Barrys ideas of what chord sub for others. So we can find all these in one place? Do you do the same substitutions when thinking of single note solo lines as well, say play Em6dim scale ideas against Eb7?
@timojurvelin
@timojurvelin 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, cool channel! Any thoughts about the diminished 7 with maj7 on top Barry mentions in the Stella clip? Borrowing concept reminded me of that sound especially on minor chords and came I up with this little movement: C#dim7 (maj7) Fm7 F#dim7(maj7) Bbm7 9x8988 , x81089x , 14x13,14,13,13 , x13,15,13,14,x or x48x88 -> Fm7 etc.. using pinky barre, more comfortable and sounds quite similar omitting one note. I hope these funny little diagrams come across correct. :D
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Timo. Keep it up. That's what it's about.
@maximilianoflynn5388
@maximilianoflynn5388 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have a question!! Can you talk about the Bdim in the last section?? I'm thinking it could be the diminished that appears In Eb7, but don't know if i'm right seeing in that way.
@NikhilHoganShow
@NikhilHoganShow 6 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nikhil
@jerryjoejackaroe
@jerryjoejackaroe 6 жыл бұрын
Great Lesson Thanks
@TamirGal
@TamirGal 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Thanks for another amazing lesson. Would love to hear your approach to the tag on the last A, where the tune goes to Dbm , then the chromatic descending of minor chords. Thanks, Tamie
@chestyguitarron
@chestyguitarron 6 жыл бұрын
How do you get a dorian minor instead of an aeolian? The DbM6/dim scale creates a Bbm7 with a flatted 6th. How would I establish a dorian sound for a couple bars using Barry's ideas? Love this series, thank you very much!
@chestyguitarron
@chestyguitarron 6 жыл бұрын
I think I might have figured it out. To create a Bbm7 dorian sound play the AbM6/dim scale?
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how to answer this because Barry never talks about modes. He doesn't see music or sounds in terms of modes. Glad you're enjoying the videos. Please share with your musician friends.
@romdanish
@romdanish 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, thanks a lot for this video that I've been digging more than a few times now. A Question: at @11:00, you play a Dm7b5 (or F7), but I don't see where this chord fits at this moment of the tune. Could you please help me out?
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 4 жыл бұрын
The sixth bar of the song is 2beats of Dmin7b5 and 2beats of G7.
@eddiekent1997
@eddiekent1997 Жыл бұрын
Praactiiice Thnk you
@obonku
@obonku 5 жыл бұрын
If you use the Db dim6 scale for the Bbm7 and the DbM7, don't you end up playing a Gb, which is not in the key of Ab major. This seems to be a similar issue to playing a "wrong" natural 9 on the iii7 chord (where a b9 would the correct note for they key), which Barry really takes issue with in the following video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYeVloGebdaKjNE So what do you do to account for that? Just remember to play G natural?
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 5 жыл бұрын
Good question Andrew. I think, in the video you linked, he is referring to how not every Cminor is the same. That's important. The Cminor in Ab is different from the Cminor in Bb which is different from the Cminor in Eb. He emphasizes a lot how not everything in the music can be boiled down to a 2 5. It's about playing movement. Another reason he brings that up is he doesn't like the sound of that Minor 9 on the 3 chord. Thanks for the input Andrew. I hope you're finding these videos helpful.
@garyleemusic
@garyleemusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to agree on this one. From all I've listened to from Barry, playing Gb against the Bbm7 chord wouldn't fly since in the context of the tune the Bbm7 to Eb7 would take the Eb Dom 7 scale generally speaking. BUT hinting at Db Major over the Dm7b5 to G7 would be a nice sub on the way to C∆
@jc-wx3sm
@jc-wx3sm 6 жыл бұрын
hey can you do blues and or rhythm comping lesson?
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Sure Joe. I'll cover one or both of them soon. Thanks for the suggestion.
@joshuamarks1129
@joshuamarks1129 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I know you didn't fully specify this when you mentioned resolving Em6 to Eb6 (subs for Eb7 to Ab6) but I noticed the beautiful voice leading of the Eb6 diminished scale over the Ab major chord: Essentially alternating the sound of Abmaj9 and Abdim7 (kind of a Lydian flavor). Is that type of voice leading something Barry discussed in classes?
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 5 жыл бұрын
The 2 scale of chords that Barry would play over the AbMajor would be Ab6diminished and Eb6 diminished. The latter includes a D natural. He never refers to anything in modes. He doesn't believe in them.
@joshuamarks1129
@joshuamarks1129 5 жыл бұрын
👍👍Things I've Learned From Barry Harris I wonder if he ever had contact with George Russell, author "Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organizaion" "He doesn't believe in modes" is another way of saying he never found any important uses for the Greek terminology, but clearly his own system of scales is so completely developed/codified that he can play an infinite number of phrases starting on any note of a scale(s) and beginning at any part of the measure. He's magnificent, and we are very fortunate that he's such a devoted educator! And thank you so much for passing on his lessons in these videos!
@alistaircornacchio5727
@alistaircornacchio5727 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, you say Barry would think about the Bbm7 (2nd measure) as just Db, but in other videos he is not thinking of the Bbm7 because it's part of a ii V so he just thinks V. Can you try to clarify how these two perspectives that seem separate to me can work together?
@LanceThomasRecordProducer
@LanceThomasRecordProducer 6 жыл бұрын
I love this tune, and you have just opened a load of new possibilities for me. Thanks. Just a quick thought on the way you shoot the videos. I am appreciating the close up of the neck , but I miss the contact as I can't see your eyes. I know this sounds a little odd, but I feel I get it more when your looking right into the camera! Any chance of putting a smaller second shot in the lower right hand corner? I started to look into the Barry method a while a go, and it started to really improve my playing. You have taken this to a new level for me so thanks again for that. This way of thinking get's me closer to my goal of sounding more like Barney Kessel. Yours Lance
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying these Lance. Barry's method is Beautiful and limitless.
@mlabash
@mlabash 6 жыл бұрын
Again, thanks so much for this incredibly helpful series. One question about Barry's thinking on the relationship between m7 and maj6 chords: Isn't the diminished scale above and below the m7 the same as that of the maj6? Why, then does he insist on viewing the relationship to the diminished scale from the maj6? Thanks!
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 6 жыл бұрын
I think if you want to look at it from the m7 instead of the Maj6 that's also fine. We'd all get to the same points anyway just with different names. Glad you're enjoying these. Please share with your musician friends.
@romainbertrand253
@romainbertrand253 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great lesson again. I think some songs with chord melody will be very nice. I'm sure it will give ideas to a lot of people about this way of thinking melody against chords. Thanks. For guitarists, Barry's concepts give really total freedom.
@tadasuyamato930
@tadasuyamato930 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!Your video makes mediocre player like me to advance.Again you better put your playing around 12:00 beginning of the video that will make more people Watch you for sure!
@johnrothfield6126
@johnrothfield6126 5 жыл бұрын
14:50 !!
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616
@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616 5 жыл бұрын
I'm available for skype lessons. Email me at chrisparksjazz22@gmail.com
@alfredscoggins3206
@alfredscoggins3206 5 жыл бұрын
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