Windows FINALLY Got a Package Manager - Here's Why It's Awesome

[@ThioJoe]

⚠️ HEADS UP - IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU⚠️: It turns out the update to App Installer with the WinGet client might not have actually been pushed out yet. You should be able to manually install the latest version by copy-pasting this whole thing into your browser URL bar (without quotes): " ms-appinstaller:?source=aka.ms/getwinget " If even that fails, you can also install it manually from their GitHub release page here (but the Microsoft Store method is recommended): github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/

[@rclarkstube]

Hmm... still no joy.

[@ThioJoe]

@@rclarkstube Yea I think I realized the issue. Try pasting this whole thing into your browser bar, it apparently manually installs the latest version: ms-appinstaller:?source=aka.ms/getwinget

[@Jumbo_storm]

This did not solve the/my problem. I THINK my problem is that it is maybe not released for Sweden yet? And are you just needing to installing or updating: "App Installer", and it should be available?. You don't need to restart your computer afterwards or anything else?. And in my command prompt, it says: "C:\Users\_My name>_". Not only: "C:\", like it did for you. I tested open it in administrator mode and then it says: "C:\WINDOWS\system32>", instead. And it looked like you have opened it in some like Chrome window/tab. Is the command prompt available like an inter-web (internet), or is it a page/side, in inter-web (internet)?.

[@ThioJoe]

@@Jumbo_storm Did you try even by pasting this into your browser (without quotes)? " ms-appinstaller:?source=aka.ms/getwinget "

[@rclarkstube]

@@ThioJoe That worked! Thanks.

[@mjdxp5688]

This is the kind of feature I actually want to see in Windows, not some garbage news and interests panel. Seems pretty exciting.

[@tanujrana8490]

Sadly this is a pretty niche thing that only power users/ sysadmins will care about. Im happy to see them devoting time to it

[@dogs-and-destruction-channel]

@@tanujrana8490 However technology and software is quickly advancing and companies are now advancing customise/personalise, so one day it might become so common, they might release it in an update and it'll become a part of our daily lives like WORD or USER CONTROL.

[@tanujrana8490]

@@dogs-and-destruction-channel if they release a gui for it i can see if going mainstream from day 1. Until then... Ehh, the average guy is more average than we realise

[@MeowtronStar]

You're forgetting two things. This is originally a Linux feature and Linux caters to a very specific kind of user and no one makes profits. The Linux community knows what the Linux community wants. Windows is commercial and has a far more degeneralized userbase whose vast majority are the kind of users who wouldn't give two shits about an "app repository". They always look up to the first Google result as the be-all end-all solution to everything computer related. I have known plenty of people who search for "google" using the Chrome search bar to find the Google home page before actually searching what they want. Let that sink in. Do you think they would have the faintest interest in a line command? Especially compared to a colorful and catchy "News and Interests" that sits loudly on their desktop? Secondly, Microsoft wants to earn money. The "News and Interests" is basically a more aggressive data tracker that'll feed to their Bing ads server. Google and Facebook currently have largest databases of trackable user data which is why their targeted ads business is so successful. Microsoft has almost nothing in this field and so their new news and interests feature will be their first big break into the user-tracking and targeted-ads business. This package manager thing will make a small fraction (us) of their userbase happy. The news feature will potentially earn them millions from the rest of their userbase on a regular basis.

[@franklinsalazar8430]

@@tanujrana8490 Like essentially turning the Microsoft Store into a GUI version of WinGet?

[@skelebro9999]

chocolatey be like: finally, a worthy opponent

[@zehph]

More like, Crap Miscrosoft just killed our business...

[@skelebro9999]

@@zehph but it's not available for Windows 8 and 7 so...

[@cereal_experiments]

@@skelebro9999 that's one unsupported and one soon to be unsupported operating system. doesn't really matter.

[@yoman9446]

chocolatey could host more packages then, it's great having a choice of package manager

[@roshankharke3725]

chocolatey still does good job

[@yxles]

Oh wow thats so cool seeing Windows having some Linux capabilities like that

[@skelebro9999]

it's much easier than doing manually

[@arnob1711]

I mean most things that windows have are really similar to linux Example: The "Actual" root folder for windows is "/" not "(C:)"

[@skelebro9999]

@@arnob1711 loool I didn't even noticed 😂

[@arnob1711]

@@skelebro9999 I'm pretty sure that there are way more examples like these that prove windows is just another Linux distribution ;-)

[@ananttiwari1337]

@@arnob1711 Windows doesn't use the Linux kernel. Those are design choices. Windows *does* ship with the Linux kernel (WSL)

[@DeBukkIt]

Linux: Releases apt-get in 1998 Windows: Hold my beer... for 23 years

[@astonish1109]

Your point is invalid. You've heard of the rabbit and turtle race, right?

[@astonish1109]

@Linux Redefined Like I said, you're already making assumptions based on something's infancy, you clearly have a narrow pass on this. Give it time to grow, we already know and love linux, maybe not as much, from my end to name my profile after it.

[@xplanation2263]

@Linux Redefined nothing is better than sudu pacman -Syu

[@GtaBillionaire]

the released it using internet explorer

[@methamphetamememcmeth3422]

Why does only a minority of people use Linux? And don't come at me with the servers and android bullshit. It's because not everyone can use it or has the time to waste, trying to make things work. Windows is mainstream because everyone can use it without problems or without breaking anything.

[@passionfly1]

"Winget export -o" is probably the most RIDICULOUSLY underused command in the history of setting up a new computer from your existing one. Why would people NOT want to use this amazing command? seriously? Thank you, ThioJoe!!!

[@zekiz774]

I love the "Stock Video Searched" in the bottom left corner.

[@IvanoForgione]

that made me lol for some reason 😆

[@BetaMaster2]

yeah thio we all needed to know that you searched for "depressed computer man" today

[@MZZenyl]

I'm so glad that Windows has finally gotten a first-party package manager for applications, and that it's getting some much-deserved attention. Yes, almost all Linux distros have had package managers for ages, but let's applaud Microsoft for finally going in the right direction on this.

[@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme]

Windows is trying to be an "all-in-one" os And to be honest it's doing well

[@itskdog]

I still don't see much of a difference between winget and the Microsoft Store, especially as it's getting native support for Win32 apps (without having to repackage them specially for the store) in Windows 21H2. On Linux distros, package manager GUIs are often in the form of an app store because that's basically what a package manager is. Unless WinGet is going to be the backend for this Win32 support in 21H2, I guess? Otherwise I don't personally see a whole lot of use for it that the Microsoft Store can't already fill for the average user, and the MS Store has the benefit of having discoverability features as well.

[@MZZenyl]

@@itskdog The benefit is not having to visit either the store app or the download page in order to install the program(s) you want. No need for slow and cluttered GUIs, or finding the correct download button, just launch your shell of choice and winget it. That, and the fact that the package repo is public and community driven, meaning that you don't have to wait for the application developer to publish it on the store. Anyone can submit a manifest to the package repo, and once it's cleared the various checks, everyone can from them on winget the application. Also, for anyone who is comfortable working in CLI, this is both quicker and easier than having to launch the bloated Windows Store (not to mention its crappy search functionality), not to mention more intuitive for people who come from the *NIX world, where CLI package managers are the norm and standard.

[@haomingxia2109]

@@itskdog Is the Microsoft Store scriptable? That's one benefit I can see out of winget/choclatey

[@realtimestatic]

@@itskdog easier to submit by users. Maybe they'll integrate it into MS store to finally get MS Store going

[@singletona082]

Now Microsoft needs to allow other files window, and desktop managers. This is a gesture I had hoped they would have put in for over a decade.

[@gaweringo]

Other files window? Do you mean replacing file explorer?

[@StormTheSquid]

@@gaweringo If that's what they meant, they're a bit late, that already exists if memory serves.

[@singletona082]

@@gaweringo yr. If nothing else giving back the fine adjustments for UI rather than the single 'aoom by x percrnt'

[@raushonmunni2633]

@@gaweringo he meant window manager i think?

[@sethadkins546]

Different file managers exist

[@slavko5666]

Microsoft in 2000's : Linux sucks Microsoft in 2020's: Hey, lets copy Linux

[@gunkymcsplunky]

Dude Microsoft uses Linux for god sake, they have never said they hate Linux.

[@gunkymcsplunky]

@king 9 I wasn’t trying to talk you sorry about that

[@slavko5666]

@@gunkymcsplunky In 2001 then Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer declared "Linux is a cancer." I was talking about the 2000's, not now.

[@TAP7a]

@@gunkymcsplunky doesn’t mean they don’t want to finish going through their Embrace, Extend (we are here), Extinguish process for Linux

[@ChozoSR388]

@@slavko5666 Let's not forget when one of the MSFT big wigs called Linux users "Freetards"

[@tootalldan5702]

I'm looking for the options.. "winget -remove bloatware" And "Winget -firewall block bloatware" Then it would be better. ;)

[@und4287]

"winget -remove telemetry"

[@sayannandy876]

you'll remove the os with the first command

[@KofolaDealer]

Would be nice on Android too

[@divyamthakur]

@@KofolaDealer platform tools say hi

[@janricksamorin5351]

"winget remove --all" XD

[@Luna-oo9ru]

I'm sure Linux users are thinking "we have had this for years" similar to Android and iOS, but this is super cool.

[@disketteguy]

@king 9 Wdym windows have package manager already?

[@disketteguy]

@king 9 did you just called a Linux user a noob and not knowing a difference about an App Store and a package manager?

[@disketteguy]

@king 9 what do you even mean by ‘learn to translate’ and what is ‘package manager’ in windows that you have for years called anyways?

[@disketteguy]

@king 9 I checked it’s literally released 3 days ago

[@rmaster934]

​@@disketteguy Idk about "windows had it for years" part, but for "most users are noobs", he meant most Windows users are noobs, not Linux. Hence, "Learn to translate" response. Pretty "bruh" situation tbh

[@jaypormei1881]

1:55 ThioJoe: winget install "Google Chrome" Aww man, this is new! There's no need to use Edge or IE in order to download Google Chrome!

[@anundefineduser]

What about getting winget though?

[@metrospeed]

@@anundefineduser winget will be automatically installed on windows 10 in the future

[@anundefineduser]

@@metrospeed what about the present though?

[@martianunlimited]

@@anundefineduser #3:25 Windows Store.. :) you can download Winget through windows store... (myself i just clone the repository from github)

[@anundefineduser]

@@martianunlimited what about microsoft accounts though?

[@marufbepary100]

This package manager might be the backbones of the new Microsoft Store that will come with Sun Valley

[@Simon-vc1wk]

Agreed. As long as apps submitted are fully validated it has lots of potential

[@kiillabytez]

Lol. Who the hell uses the Microsoft store? The games suck. The Apps suck. There is zero value in using that app. App. Why the hell did they have to start calling programs an Android monicker?

[@grn1]

@@kiillabytez The term application or app didn't originate with Android and has been a valid term for Windows programs since the beginning. What likely happened is that the term app instead of programs has become more popular now because of IOS and Android so people have just started using that term instead (similar to how we say Google something instead of do a web search).

[@kiillabytez]

@@grn1 Incorrect. They have always been called computer programs, and didn't become Window's Apps until the Windows store integration with Windows 8. Prior to Windows 8, there was a catagory of computer programs called Applications, such as Lotus 1-2-3, WordPerfect, Foxit dBase, Netscape Navigator, etc. These applications were mainly used for office type work. Other catagories included Utilities such as Norton Commander or anti-virus programs. They were all known as programs because a programming language such as C++ or Pascal was used to create, (program) them, hence the term, program.

[@dragoneater2008_]

@@kiillabytez Xbox users use the ms store and the games there are basically the games on steam so that people who play Xbox can get the games.

[@chlorobyte_projects]

Being a Linux user, I simply don't see how Windows users put up regularly with manually downloading, installing and upgrading every single program. Heck, even phones simplified installing software with their app stores. This was honestly Windows' biggest flaw ever: it was the main reason people even got malware on their computers, so though I'm still not switching back, this puts Windows into a new light for me, and I might actually use Windows 10 instead of 7/8.1 in a VM. All they have to do is slap a GUI on top of it to make it less intimidating, and you can say goodbye to program installation related complications, especially that process of having to reinstall *every. single. thing.* on a new installation. Now they just have to remove the feature where the system devours your hardware as much as possible. My software needs that RAM to run, damn it!

[@Tzalim]

Amen brother, Amen!

[@GianniLeonhart]

I only update stuff like once every year and a half or something like that so it wasn't a problem tbh

[@Cyba_IT]

Patch My PC has a huge repository of all the best Windows apps and downloads and updates them in a few clicks

[@chlorobyte_projects]

@@GianniLeonhart That's kinda a bad idea, especially for your browser

[@GianniLeonhart]

@@chlorobyte_projects browsers update automatically, at least edge and opera do, i want them to not do it because i usually cannot spend that much data but oh well. My point is that updating things for Windows users usually isn't that much of a problem as you might think.

[@cesiumtv]

I've been a Linux user for a while and I really like using the terminal to find/install/upgrade software. Its MUCH faster than the alternatives, and I'm glad Windows is implementing this.

[@kiillabytez]

I don't think it's what you think it is then.

[@cesiumtv]

@@kiillabytez What, a package manager?

[@kiillabytez]

@@cesiumtv Windows "package manager."

[@cesiumtv]

@@kiillabytez yes... and?

[@luckythelucklesswolf1419]

@@kiillabytez wow, what an amazing argument, refuses to elaborate about how its bad and instead replies with cryptic messages

[@ahreuwu]

when Linus mentioned it in one of his streams I just thought it was some tool for powerusers that I shouldn't worry about, but thanks to your video I'm probably gonna be trying it out for a while after it releases. it looks so useful, even for people that don't regularly go on cmd! thanks for the video btw

[@GorujoCY2]

⚠️ HEADS UP For people who are contributing to the repository: Microsoft is now moderating the repository due to a spike of submissions and demand of it so the process of verifying is not automated anymore, staff have to merge your pull request when validated instead of the bot. If you can see this now you know.

[@TheChosenJuanLopez]

This would be insanely cool if it came with a GUI too, like how snap apps for Linux have their own store etc. I do however love the entire idea of this new package manager, maybe it will get integrated into Microsoft Store one day 🤔

[@640kareenough6]

Someone is definitely gonna make a GUI app, even if it's not Microsoft themselves

[@trippplefive]

i like Microsoft store apps... easier to install and uninstall things with it. i'm starting to hate the whole installer.exe concept. i like how mac os / android /ios operate when it comes to installing / removing apps.

[@TheChosenJuanLopez]

@@trippplefive yeah I don't mind having to do the whole installer.exe way to download stuff but it would be so much easier to have what this video is talking about, but have it integrated into something that is currently good, but not good enough to be attracting the attention of regular users. It would probably speed up the process of installing applications so much and make updating apps so much easier too, and companies won't have to rely so heavily on making their own update system for apps

[@kiillabytez]

Lol. Like people actually use the Microsoft store. NOBODY uses the Microsoft store.

[@kiillabytez]

@@trippplefive So, you hate being in control of your installs? That mindset is dangerous. Who the hell knows what's actually being installed on your computer.

[@bogartwilley]

I've been saying Windows needs something like this for YEARS. It's about freakin time! Thank goodness! Got me hyped a lil lol

[@DarkGamerA]

hey thio joe.. but will it have "auto-remove" that windows has.. the one which deletes unwanted data files a app downloaded..ubuntu has it

[@ThioJoe]

Hm i dont think so at the moment. I don't believe it keeps track of all the files created by a program, like I've heard some package managers do

[@DarkGamerA]

@@ThioJoe thanks for replying ❤️

[@snbeast9545]

The packages removed by apt autoremove are helper programs and third-party library packages, which aren't much of a thing in Windows applications. A Windows application will most of the time include everything it needs except Windows' own libraries, and the uninstaller will remove the things.

[@DarkGamerA]

@@snbeast9545oh thanks to you all for the info

[@NekoApril]

@@snbeast9545 Maybe for now, but part of the reason that Linux programs can get away with having so many dependencies is _because_ package managers like apt are ubiquitous. Now that this is the case for Windows as well, we may see this start to become more of a thing (for example, games simply including Unreal or Unity as a dependency to cut back on file sizes).

[@DrNemoNullus]

I fear it will be better integrated in the Windows OS than Chocolatey. at least in the longrun

[@ThioJoe]

Well it will lol, it's rolling out as a windows update to everyone

[@Kenionatus]

Why "fear"?

[@zgliu8018]

Considering 99% of Windows programs have vendored dependencies, WinGet will essentially be an installer downloader than most Linux package managers that actually save disk space by calculating dependencies and removing useless ones. Overall the concept is good tho.

[@ahdog8]

This might sound pretty stupid, but I kind of like the vendored dependencies, because sometimes I have tried to install packages on Linux and they have a bunch of dependencies that are really really hard to find

[@kiillabytez]

Most up to date Windows OS today already have dependencies built in. If you have to download some 3rd party program to get a new program to work, you should really be asking if you need that new program to begin with.

[@The88shrimp]

What's great about package managers for Windows users is you can not only download and install a program and have all its dependencies and metadata managed by the package manager, but not having to uncheck bloatware in installers or risk clicking on a phishing site that happened to bump its way above the official site.

[@AnnoyedArt1256]

wow! as i both use linux and windows this is super cool!

[@pyp2205]

Well so do I, I would use Windows and Linux in a virtual machine. And I use the Windows Sub-System for Linux.

[@skelebro9999]

which Linux you use ?

[@ananttiwari1337]

@@skelebro9999 There's only one major linux kernel. Are you referring to distros or a custom kernel?

[@skelebro9999]

@@ananttiwari1337 distro

[@SaqinNoor]

@@skelebro9999 I mostly use debian based linux like ubuntu

[@BattousaiHBr]

so if i'm getting this from the actual clips you have, all this package manager does is automatically run the .msi or .exe installer in some default config mode. the question is, what is that default config? i ask this because lots of installers will by default have checkmarks to install bloatware or things like that, so how will the package manager handle these?

[@ARose47]

This was my main problem with package managers such as chocolatey and scoop, what if I want to change the installation directory or change some other settings?

[@LaZZeYT]

The bloatware things will likely be disabled, by default, by the package maintainers.

[@LaZZeYT]

@@ARose47 "winget install" has a "-l" option, that allows you to select an install location

[@kneelesh48]

When someone submits a program to winget, they disable the add-ons

[@white-bunny]

@@ARose47 The ones in Linux does have that, but I don't know about in Windows. I have personally used DNF to install quite a few applications in other directories, as I wanted some things to do in that.

[@jashaswimalyaacharjee9585]

So basically its the AUR for windows rather than a Straight Up Package Manager.

[@LNDFHACKER]

No. The packages in the AUR need to be built locally. Winget only downloads and executes an exe file.

[@jashaswimalyaacharjee9585]

@@LNDFHACKER Yeah But A package manager gets it from a definite repository or list of repositories, and not from separate websites.

[@zekiz774]

@@jashaswimalyaacharjee9585 but It does have a list.

[@sanjay_swain]

How can anyone call winget a package manager? All it does is download the executable and install it.. that's it. No dependency management. It don't have 90% of the most important features of actual package managers and I don't think microsoft is going to add it.

[@kamkamkamkamkamkamkamkam]

@@LNDFHACKER there are plenty of AUR packages that only contain binaries rather than compiling from source

[@jimstockman926]

For those who are on insider builds and get a "program not found" error when attempting to execute winget, I suggest you open Settings/Apps/Apps & Features and click on "App execution aliases." If there is an entry for "Windows Package Manager Client" make sure it is toggled to On and try running winget from an elevated command prompt.

[@mike406]

This is going to be HUGE for our business. We have strict patching compliance standards we need to follow. Currently we use automation tools to orchestrate Chocolatey to upgrade vulnerable software. It has worked well for us but the issue has always been the ability to patch software that was already present on the system prior to chocolatey being installed. You have to pay their ridiculous pricing to get that feature which we cannot pay for with the amount of devices we have. Knowing that will be built into WinGet will be a game changer, I’m excited!

[@JustAGlitchFL]

Just wondering, would you be able to use this to get Google chrome and stuff without going through the really annoying process of switching a surface out of s mode?

[@ThioJoe]

Not sure about S mode

[@arcanegb2662]

S mode restricts Command Prompt, PowerShell, RegEdit, ControlPanel, and ALL of the Administrative tools. It also strips you of the ability to install any apps that aren't from the store. Lastly, it even removes the ability to install some administrative apps from the Store, like WT (Windows Terminal) and WinGet itself. *Therefore, no*

[@JustAGlitchFL]

@@arcanegb2662 ah shoot win10 really wants me to use the ms store

[@kneelesh48]

Get windows 10 Home or Pro

[@NickoPorras627]

Isn't it free to upgrade to home though?

[@c-LAW]

Chocolatey Has been around for several years. It's a great package manager.

[@skelebro9999]

Most importantly, it supports older versions of Windows

[@StormTheSquid]

@@skelebro9999 Which you shouldn't be using anymore anyway, so that feature is a moot point.

[@skelebro9999]

@@StormTheSquid but my pc is potato and it can't handle Windows 10

[@StormTheSquid]

@@skelebro9999 Your PC must literally be a potato because windows 10 in my experience uses less resources than 8 or 7 did if you set it up correctly.

[@skelebro9999]

@@StormTheSquid I can't run Minecraft or any 1080p video on full screen without lag spikes *sigh* edit: do you know how I can "set it up correctly" ?

[@daringcuteseal]

should I be happy or mad? Also, can't wait for "winget install neofetch"

[@System64-Fumo]

Its called winfetch on windows and yes its real

[@daringcuteseal]

@@System64-Fumo o h-

[@lucymnt]

@@System64-Fumo damn that's cool

[@outofahat9363]

@@System64-Fumo its still not on winget repos tho

[@iyeetsecurity922]

One thing I _love_ about this guy's videos is the stock video search terms like _"Scared computer guy"_ and _"Happy programer."_

[@louieaaa3818]

Huh. I've used Scoop for a while now, but it's interesting to see winget finally start gaining some traction. I'd switch to winget fully once it becomes more mature, just because it's most likely going to be more supported.

[@deeptanshubhaskar3620]

Amazing to see Microsoft to make more and more of its tools open source and also focusing on more things us users want

[@Raphipod]

Ahem, with added ways to spy on us...

[@deeptanshubhaskar3620]

@@Raphipod good point.

[@jongeduard]

AppGet Creator Says Microsoft Stole His Product Just google for that. You'll discover that they actually stole the whole project from a developer.

[@csdgay]

"dont do upgrade all right now, its buggy" me who started upgrade all in the middle of the video

[@simplybeanjelly]

Oops 😂

[@bessiehardesty1347]

Lol

[@robloxboxertblocked9636]

Uninstall it

[@abboudisultan6007]

Oof

[@AyushKumar-pd1dq]

Lolololololololololol

[@tohur]

I can foresee in the future this being integrated into the windows store and/or windows update to keep all supported programs updated

[@crhu319]

Such a genius! You should work for Apple.

[@xantaclaws]

Finally windows is bringing in some actual update rather than increasing version numbers.

[@QuickSqueeze]

Wow! This is incredible news! I'm really excited. Thank you Thio, I don't know when I would find about this if it wasn't for your video.

[@Gersonzao]

Debian (Linux distribution) user here. Am impressed Microsoft Windows is getting this thing, really useful for me due to some broken update systems some programs use

[@MarcioHuser]

I just hope those "unattended install" for apps that have some "questionably optional" add-ons does not cause the disppersion of crapware through usage of WinGet

[@crhu319]

It will. Use PortableApps

[@kiillabytez]

Automated installs of ANYTHING is a bad idea. Some people call it time saving and convenience. I call it crapware invitation.

[@-johnny-deep-]

Looks pretty useful. I'd expect a GUI interface in the future. As for submitted packages and updates, is there someone actually verifying that the update isn't full of code bugs and viruses? Could I submit my own "universal-trojan-horse" package?

[@raushonmunni2633]

i thought the windows store app already exists that nobody uses

[@ThioJoe]

They do a virus scan on submitted URLs but that's about it i think

[@-johnny-deep-]

@@raushonmunni2633 The "Microsoft Store" app exists, but presumably MS completely controls what's available, just as Apple does for its app store. This new command line package manager seems geared to more casual non-developers and potentially less polished apps. But as such it risks becoming a dangerous free-for-all if there is no validation process. I'm sure there must be, but if so, it wasn't mentioned in this video.

[@-johnny-deep-]

@@ThioJoe Better than nothing I suppose. Of course, it still requires some minimal command line level of comfort to use, and your average user is already capable of finding and installing whatever dangerous software he wants now anyway just by googling.

[@seanooley4986]

I'd like a GUI interface like Synaptic.

[@patemathic]

Ahhh, some things are just plain better done with CLI

[@RealFlicke]

But how do you remove software quickly with CLI especially if you don't remember what you installed? That is extremely easy on Windows.

[@sanjay_swain]

@@RealFlicke Well package managers don't necessarily have to be CLI only. The actual package manager can be a backend and frontend can be a GUI. And about your question it is possible to list all the installed programs in your computer in the command line and just remove the program you want to.

[@RealFlicke]

@@sanjay_swain But is it only a list of the packages you installed or is it a 200+ list of everything plus it's dependencies?

[@patemathic]

@@RealFlicke a list of everything plus dependencies, but package managers can purge unused dependencies

[@dj-no]

@@RealFlicke pacman -Q | grep (package name) there's probably some other equivalent on other distros

[@abc_cba]

Watching your videos religiously, has made me have crush over you lately. Thank You for being the most important goto for Windows info for me. Stay blessed and you're amazingly easy to understand from your speech as well.

[@DaemonForce]

5:38 Before I forget, I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do with the export command but I did something other than WinGet export -o C:\list.txt and went straight to WinGet list | format-table -wrap > C:\list.txt and got the entire list of installed apps. Command Prompt isn't exactly the best environment for making these kinds of outputs. Try it in PowerShell next time.

[@racoononinternet2132]

Wow, something Linux has been having for decades. Great innovation Microsoft.

[@Tzalim]

And that's the reason I switched to Linux. And not only that but Windows collects telemetry on you and about you!!! Linux doesn't, well canonical (Ubuntu) DOES collect telemetry on you and about you!!!

[@racoononinternet2132]

@@Tzalim and no forced updates

[@NazmusLabs]

Your whining makes Microsoft look like a superhero. What have you contributed to the world, Subhanallah. Microsoft doesn’t nag and complain like you. They actually did something useful. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you.

[@ARose47]

@@Tzalim This just confirms Linux users are the vegans of the tech world, nobody said anything about telemetry

[@behavedave]

Just took a look and apt came out 23 years ago.

[@matiasmercado3304]

What about software that comes with bloatware? Like Acrobat DC that sometimes comes with mcafee...

[@Hartie95]

Hope most of them disabled them in silent installs, or get banned from the repository until they stop shipping bloatware.

[@sayannandy876]

Do you want to install McAfee?(optional) (y/N) Hopefully this'll be implemented.

[@Hartie95]

@@sayannandy876 I don't think it should even ask, no user ever wants to install these, so bloatware should just be banned from the repository.

[@matsbjnnes366]

When submitting, the Contribution License Agreement requires me to confirm that "I have sole ownership of intellectual property rights to my Submissions and I am not making Submissions in the course of work for my employer.". Is this referring to the application I'm downloading, or just the submission? I do not want to be caught claiming ownership over software not my own.

[@mederp4042]

I think it's fine to submit other peoples software

[@logicalfundy]

Open Source software should be fine, but I wouldn't submit anything proprietary because yes copyright law applies.

[@ArthursHD]

Nice to see the progress! I'll just kindly ask developers to include the packages in WinGet and RMM to implement it in to patch manager. Since I don't want to keep on top of Software versions myself. I should be able to make an offline cache for provisioning package so I don't need to re-download packages for each new computer :)

[@MAKAB36]

Best news in a long time, Thankyou so much for sharing this info, this makes life so much easier, being able to upgrade all apps in silent mode all at once is a huge time saver.

[@asakpke]

Yes, very true 👍

[@realtimestatic]

Linux users: Hey I've seen this one Windows users: What do you mean you've seen this one its brand new

[@killertigergaming6762]

Yep linux ftw

[@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665]

Hope they do this little better than in some Linux disruptions there the version in packet maneger is old and don't be updated so you still have to find PPA, or go AUR or edit source list to get the latest stable

[@xeome5596]

@@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665 what are you talking about i never did that

[@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665]

@@xeome5596 for example mixxx that I use are in rpositori in Linux Mint and still an old version. To get latest you need the PPA, and latest have lots of new features, same with openshot for example.

[@xeome5596]

@@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665 idk i use arch, all packages are latest version available

[@developerpranav]

I'd rather use Chocolatey if I need to use windows at all, which I usually dont. I use Arch Btw

[@julian5956]

Soo, what is stopping someone finding g software that isn't setup and creating a manifest that downloads a malware infected version of the file?

[@ThioJoe]

Well they do a virus scan on all packages submitted. I assume that includes suspicious URLs. Somewhere it mentioned they don't accept files hosted on "software hosting" sites, but actual websites, with some exceptions i think like github and sourceforge

[@bjoerkengard]

@@ThioJoe virus scan... with Windows Defender

[@divyamthakur]

@@bjoerkengard windows defender is pretty good

[@tomsk]

@@divyamthakur there are/was even viruses in official Store, I have experiences with it, my friends PC was infected after downloading some app (I don't remember which was that).

[@divyamthakur]

@@tomsk oof

[@tmcarter3]

Can I just say I can't believe this was not previously available.. This is absolutely fantastic! Thanks!

[@checkyourfax]

The best thing about a package manager is the same reason why Windows Store apps are actually really easy to use for the average person: It will instantly update all programs and keep your computer safe. Say you have a really old version of a program installed, and you never use it and never updated it, any security bug could allow a virus to open those programs on user level and expose bigger security issues (that could for example, elevate user rights) on those older programs. A virus that was made to access older programs would be stuck on user level and not being able to do much. On a side note: This is why app containers are such a good security feature, because not everyone always updates every program you installed. Always keep your software up to date for this reason. Hopefully WinGet becomes big and the standard for intsalling Win32 programs.

[@ThePowerRanger]

This is a game changer. Windows is getting good.

[@raidev_]

especially with sun valley update comming in fall

[@basicnpcc]

Real question here, people still use WinRAR?

[@Ghy5y6Modz]

where have you've been

[@itsmimic007]

Yes why not ?

[@basicnpcc]

@@itsmimic007 7zip's functionality beats it out by a mile while being completely open source and free. WinRAR pioneered the field, but it is pretty much dead software at this point compared to the competitors.

[@luki12354]

I have never in m life used anything else but WinRAR and it always worked fine so i see no reason to not use it anymore

[@morkin9004]

@@basicnpcc Literally ive only seen quite a few people that used zip extractors other than winrar. Majority of us still uses winrars.

[@csolisr]

Next stop: integrating WinGet with the Microsoft Store

[@chaslington]

Microsoft Store could be scrapped and rewritten as a WinGet GUI.

[@DhackerGamer]

Yessss, I hate Microsoft store, Winget will be more easy

[@siddharthasarmah9266]

A quick little tip. if you want to change the location of your install you need to do winget install packageName --location "/path/to/install". you can also use -l install of --location to make things a bit easier.

[@randomher089]

Finally I'll be able to make a list with the "standard" apps I use on every computer and maybe even run it as a script! Will save hours on looking for all the download links!

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

Program is not yet good it is a good idea but it is too new. No need to use it, also it depends on developers to work at least at the moment. See ya in a year winget.

[@ThioJoe]

Yep it still feels very new but shows much promise

[@TechCurry]

It’s already one year passed since it was launched.

[@TechCurry]

@@ThioJoe Agreed. It has made a tremendous progress in past one year. Still a way to go. Fingers crossed 🤞

[@errrzarrr]

Have you tried? I hope it isn't too verbose like PowerShell.

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

@@errrzarrr its not but let's put it this way if it works its great if it does not its a big pain

[@zxuiji]

So after years of being out shined by linux they finally thought "oh, they have a point"

[@somegeezer4058]

It's funny you say that because most Linux users agree PM is a mess.

[@zxuiji]

@@somegeezer4058 A mess is still better than hunting all over the net for installers and updaters

[@AuroraAce.]

@@somegeezer4058 source: my ass

[@RealFlicke]

@@zxuiji All the auto updaters are annoying. But it's way better to collect software from the internet than solving package conflicts or manually compiling software.

[@zxuiji]

@@RealFlicke all software has to be compiled at some point, better on the machine it's going on than some other machine where the quirks of the target machine are unknown, also can still go to websites and download linux binaries, it's rare for that to be an option given what I already stated but it IS still an option that developers who want to deliver a poor experience can give

[@Everytwo_]

Now questioning should I really swich to Linux

[@skelebro9999]

if your pc supports it and you do only productive stuff like editing , office and stuff then yes, go for it

[@killertigergaming6762]

Yes better customization speed security privacy freedom and less bloatware

[@dorukhan8707]

I would say yes, it is being massively improvised day by day. Think about all the professional suite of apps that are quality and free and open-source: Blender (3d modelling), Godot (game engine), Krita (Drawing and raster art), Kdenlive (video editing workbench), Libre office (office suite), LMMS, Ardour, etc. (Music production), KDE Plasma Desktop (a very customizable desktop environment being updated continuously and has cool modern and innovative features, new Wayland window manager for a better windowing system than X11, Pipewire for better audio and resource infrastructure, all the cool and useful among others many software, etc, etc.

[@dennismckee6162]

Man this is great. One issue that I don't care for is that when a reboot is "required", it runs right away with no warning. But I really think this will be a great addition to Windows.

[@i0ntempest]

Is there actually checksum built in this manager (like homebrew does)? If not it would be a pretty big security problem.

[@PythonPlusPlus]

> WinGet uninstall System32 I’m sorry Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

[@PWingert1966]

I'm sorry Dave I need the license key for Pod Bay doors package?

[@StillConfusing]

wonder if it will be good like pacman or shite like apt?

[@Atamosk-bu7zt]

@@try1785 lmfao

[@raushonmunni2633]

@@try1785 flatpak inside of snap inside of appimages

[@LaZZeYT]

It could even be god-tier, like portage!

[@patemathic]

Pacman is not very intuitive. APT itself isn't bad, but Ubuntu doesn't use it to its fullest. YaST (and Zypper) is my personal choice, has both the good maintainers and an intuitive interface ;)

[@LaZZeYT]

@@patemathic Why does it matter, whether it's intuitive? Package managers are something, you really have to learn properly. Sure, it may be harder to learn, but you only learn once. (also, pacman has a pacman animation, so it wins by default.)

[@Everytwo_]

6:18 now explain why is there epic games launcher installed (if you don't play fortnite you get a pass)

[@ThioJoe]

They had them free games

[@Everytwo_]

@@ThioJoe that's acceptable

[@justanobody2347]

I have been using chocolatey for a while now, and its already great. Using pacman in Arch Linux is awesome, glad they are bringing it here.

[@DragoniteSpam]

Okay, I didn't actually see this coming. I think I'm going to enjoy this.

[@dingo4601]

Wow windows is finally catching up to Linux after all these years...

[@VFPn96kQT]

when will Linux catch up on stable working GUI, backward and forward compatibility of programms instead of telling that it cannot find some cryptic-name lib?

[@dingo4601]

@@VFPn96kQT What time are you still living in? Linux is more stable than windows could ever be...

[@VFPn96kQT]

@@dingo4601 haha right.... It's stable if don't update anything and don't use GUI. You won't believe me, but I used different distros for years and still use today. None of the them had stable gui that didn't require constant fiddling. Linux is fine on servers, but as desktop OS? Please. There is a reason why so few people use it on that platform.

[@dingo4601]

@@VFPn96kQT which distros have you used? Cause i haven't found a single issue with mine, i switched to Linux because windows crashed frequently on my system...

[@VFPn96kQT]

@@dingo4601 I used OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Fedora. I'm not saying they are crashing. They have issues with GUI. It’s significantly slower when clicking, they have issues with configurations that breaks often, text looks ugly, finding help is terrible experience - there are hundreds of distros, package managers, GUIs, shells etc. Even the same distro likes to reinvent the wheel every few years. Good luck finding your exact issue. Releases are too frequent that makes proper testing impossible and mentality is “we’ll fix it in the next release”. LTS distros work better, but with terrible Linux binary stability - lots of newer program don’t work. I need to know the exact version of GCC, glib, other dependencies etc. to run program. Even apps in repository sometimes don’t work properly. I can run modern programs on Windows 7 and programs from Windows XP days on latest Windows 10 with no issue. Good luck doing the same on any Linux. I don’t remember the last time I saw blue screen.

[@vaatvattamus6633]

At this point I'm pretty sure those into Linux couldn't care less.

[@ped7g]

:shrug: ... MS would first have to add all those other missing features, and even if windows would be suddenly modernised and extended to be on par with common Linux distro, I still wouldn't expect MS to release also source code and give you right to modify it, so what's the point. But it's kinda funny to watch videos like this, when windows users get enthusiastic about basic functionality.... :) (then again, I get them, I can't imagine to live without package manager.... although this seems rather like AUR/docker.hub/... with lot of user stuff added without curated "core" database provided by MS itself, so this has some security implications, but I guess skilled people will catch any rogue stuff very quickly, so probably will work well ... also probably still less risky, than searching for installer on web by average Joe, who may not notice landing on some spoofed web page)

[@somegeezer4058]

You cared enough to troll this thread.

[@hydrolink5297]

I looked at the "Stock video searches", and laught my computer nerd glasses off

[@vreddym]

Have tried ... it works like a charm to debloat built in apps.

[@marfnl2]

Im Soooo happy with this. I just finished installing Active Directory on my network. Now the automated instalation of apps on a new account or pc will be Soooo Mutch simpler!

[@marfnl2]

At the moment I'm using ninite app installer to setup the basic apps in 1 go

[@jeremyreed4898]

Sounds like the nail in the coffin of Edge. No longer need to search 'Download Chrome'

[@Hartie95]

I mean the difference between edge and chrome isn't really big anymore, since edge is just another chromium now. And the old edge was actually usable after it got more stable, used it as my daily driver for quite some time.

[@killertigergaming6762]

And i no longer need do download brave through edge i can just use this. Well when im using windows and not linux which is rare

[@kusalg]

Nowadays, you don't even do the download chrome bit, just open edge.

[@killertigergaming6762]

@@kusalg so you can download brave

[@MechanicalMooCow]

>uses Chrome and mocks Edge >uses Chrome Fucking LOL

[@unaphiliated5090]

Yeah, great idea, a CLI version of the App store. Welcome to 1999.

[@arcanegb2662]

But, it also includes standard Win32 apps, not just UWP. This is like an App Store for more standard Apps. There may be a GUI version later, or even get integrated into the Store itself.

[@raushonmunni2633]

open broken start menu, open app, wait 30 seconds because how bloated the app is, press install, wait for it to install. instead what you would do here is open command line, winget install package-name , as easy is that so why use the harder way?

[@bernardonegri5416]

Even Linux distributions that aspire to be as modern as possible (e.g. Fedora) have command line package managers. It is not a new idea.

[@derisis13]

Glad to see windows catching up to the good operating systems...

[@chromerims]

Superb editing of stock videos . . . Scared Computer Man was funny. I like you sharing some of your comedic roots with us. Your tech videos (the serious ones) are really helpful to millions of people. Kind regards.

[@logicalfundy]

Do keep in mind copyright law before submitting anything. Also if you start submitting something, you kinda become responsible for keeping its entry up to date too. In fact, I thought the authors of the software were responsible for keeping their software on package managers, not random people. It really seems like bad advice to just have people randomly submit any software they have to it.

[@_SJ]

Scared Computer Man mode on

[@Plkj]

How-

[@Plkj]

This is ten hours ago-

[@Plkj]

Nice emoji btw

[@veud]

@@Plkj He is a member, they always have to flex about how early they are 😂🤷

[@Plkj]

@@veud .(;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)

[@Easy_ComputerScience]

ninite be like: come on bruh

[@AlDunbar]

It would be good to see a head-to-head comparison between the package manager and ninite. I suspect one significant difference will be the number of different packages available. Ninite covers a significant chunk of applications, but I'm not sure how these are generated. Package manager seems to take an open source kind of approach that seems likely to grow this more organically.

[@mudomudito]

Me, using pirated software: Yeah, buddy, that's not gonna happen xD

[@pugnate666]

As someone who usually notices the annoying and ugly side of windows updates/new features, I love this channel! Been a long time since I have been excited about something windows related, thanks for the video! This package manager is sick! (I am used to pip, so my mouth was open in awe the entire video)

[@luccicorp]

Your videos are usually so clean. Thanks for all your videos

[@ynk69]

Finally I can install Chrome without opening Edge

[@joestr_]

Ehhhhmmmm ... what? /sarcasm --query

[@randomher089]

Hahaha! This deserves so many more likes!

[@chewataapp7021]

Ayee Windows

[@mineland8220]

apt, yum, pacman, and others are laughing at windows being so late to the party

[@nsg650]

chocolatey

[@midleno8364]

damn bro kinda crazy but nobody asked

[@nsg650]

@@midleno8364 did anyone ask that no one asked?

[@RickRollMaster101]

also for macos brew

[@jamiew.lacroix7055]

I must say your tireless efforts to help Windows users get those most, receives a 5***** Standing Ovation

[@somethingcoolgoeshere]

their has been sketchy sites that let you install all your favorite programs through some custom installer but this is SOOO much better

[@killertigergaming6762]

Meanwhile me on linux laughing that you guys JUST got a package manager while we have had it for years

[@windowsxpprofessional]

But with 21h1, there's even more bloatware 🤣

[@skelebro9999]

That's why I use chocolatey on my windows 7 :) Yes, my pc is trashy

[@matthewbarabas3052]

agreed. its just more features ill never use. i want a windows 10 slim version.

[@windowsxpprofessional]

@@skelebro9999 I use windows 7 and xp dual booted

[@skelebro9999]

@@binku09 😂

[@Atamosk-bu7zt]

@@windowsxpprofessional great way to spread dem cheeks with xp being on a dual boot.

[@HPerrin]

I wouldn't consider that a package manager. It's just an unattended installation manager.

[@crhu319]

Exactly. PortableApps is better for most needs.

[@bobcollard11]

I upgraded Appinstaller and got winget, thanks. It found one Windows App that needed upgraded, my Kindle App and it is now up to date.

[@zon5308]

I did not know anything about this. But thanks to your great detailed explanation I do and have installed it. thank you very much. You explain things very simple for those of us who do not have any knowledge. Keep up the great work.

[@Hackerisitic]

Sudo apt-get install winget

[@bernardonegri5416]

oh yeah it is big brain time

[@dampfwatze]

Soo this means, you don't even need to use Edge anymore, to install Chrome? Now we have to correct all the Memes!

[@crhu319]

While you're at it make sure to install Brave or Vivaldi

[@bytedream]

"and those of you who have already used linux before, are probably already excited". Absolutely not

[@richardtwyning]

I'm so glad I don't rely on windows for anything serious. A nice idea, but seems buggy, like most things update related in windows

[@passionfly1]

This video was brought to you by "Scared Computer Man" ROFLMAO! @2:21