Third L.A. with Architectural Critic Christopher Hawthorne | Artbound | Season 8, Episode 5 | KCET

[@jairreeves7322]

Amazing piece of work depicting one of the greatest cities on Earth. With all of her flaws and issues, Los Angeles is still an amazing place and I will always be happy to call her home. The entire So Cal region is a place full of hidden gems that would take multiple lifetimes to discover.

[@DontcallmeaCuck]

Even in 2022 ? Lol

[@bobzwol]

We are very fortunate to have Christopher Hawthorne, who's love and great knowledge of Los Angeles and it's incredible history and politics made for this fantastic view of where LA has been and where it's going. Great stuff!

[@realityhurts8697]

Get rid of the Democrats in charge it'll be better

[@colemasuno7304]

Absolutely amazing. History is constantly being revised, and they mystery of Los Angeles is so hard to capture.

[@cookingartguy2170]

Absolutely love this series!

[@jshrenger]

A beautiful piece of work. Thank you.

[@firouz4296]

Incredible documentary that gives people that matter a voice!

[@Chance2Explore]

This was artwork in itself, I loved all that went into the making of this!!

[@Patrickschlehuber]

This is so incredibly well done.

[@garyschultz7768]

it's leftist propaganda & it's well done.... well done " SHITE " ...

[@joserodas6013]

This is beautiful. Black culture and La Raza have to get together and preserve the last of what remains dear to our hearts in our neighborhoods. As a young adult, I feel that we can't win this war against gentrification if we keep segregating ourselves from each other. We need to embrace each other and understand we have more similarities then differences. We need to put aside petty things and build our communities with unity. This is a great first step to educate the public on the oncoming battle we are about to face with tech culture and corporations entering our everyday life. We need to gain 20/20 vision and work as a group. Its much easier to break a single stick compared to a batch that stands together. KCET is the best.

[@renesrelics]

🔥🔥🔥✊

[@realityhurts8697]

You are a very smart young person.

[@2nd_snideelf144]

Great documentary. Esp. one that is not about NYC.

[@marutripol2074]

Wow. Just wow.

[@chnalvr]

Wow, the Olmstead brothers helped design this area of LA but also planned out Manhattan's central park and a similar urban park system in Seattle. They were busy and very forward thinking.

[@pb4595]

Their father designed Central Park.

[@andretsang7337]

"and I say that unflinchingly" he said as he flinched

[@chiefj90]

They never talk about Central Ave... & the black Americans that moved from the south, Watts& Venice (Oakwood Area)... let’s just forget about that...

[@jonathansuarez2536]

amazing documentary!! I love the end credits song, what is it called? !

[@180_S]

This was excellent.

[@homieverbs]

I yelled at the TV when this came out ....make sure you check out our event BANANAS every third Tuesday in Leimert park

[@veggiedisease123]

What is it?

[@Ponysalad]

can we like talk about how she's casually walking IN the LA River at the beginning... O.O

[@6Lilies6Phillies]

Sickest LA doc

[@craigmerkey8518]

beautiful !

[@JohnDoukasPhotography]

I'm late to this video but it shows the long-standing tension to ask what a city should be. Community demographics have always been shifting to different neighborhoods, changing what was there previously. That's the 100+ year tradition of LA and won't change. Also at the beginning of this video, highlighting some change in terms of transportation, it seems disconnected from reality. The COVID bubble aside, traffic only gets worse. They add train stops, but they don't make it useful except if you live along the line. When it takes 30-40 minutes to travel 10 miles in your own car, you do it because Metro Rail isn't going to 80% of the city.

[@plantinapot9169]

VAAS gang?

[@maxxrenn]

S8 E5 of what? What is the name of the show?

[@ShakespeareCafe]

Prohibitively expensive housing leads to a human rights disaster

[@RedBud315]

Change in development is always inevitable but, I do hate when they mix in some big huge house on two lots in the middle of neighborhoods that have all these charming old homes. I lived in Venice during '74 for a summer when I was 10 and loved it. At least try to keep some resemblance of what it used to be.

[@nollieheel214aim]

Whats happening in Venice is sad. There's basically no sense of community left when you go there. All of the actual creatives and community leaders who've actually brought some flavor to the community have been priced out by people who move in and build tall fences so you never get to see your neighbors.

[@Cypher2358Brayo]

Thanks

[@joserodas6013]

"We build too many walls and not enough bridges"- Isaac Newton

[@desp8161]

There's one river in LA so what's to do

[@realityhurts8697]

Did you miss the point if the comment, walls close us off and bridges unite us... I am sure was the intent of the quote. The divisions of our american people need bridges to bring us all together

[@maxxrenn]

Where is he running at 51.45?

[@cherylnagy126]

everything in this episode is aspirational, conceived from an unrealistic perspective

[@alexc5656]

30:33 "We don't want to exclude people from coming up here..or to discourage them even" But yes you do. Pero si asi deseas. People coming in by foot have every right to walk on public sidewalks and stop and commune in public spaces. I think car traffic, however should be controlled because yeah cars blocking driveways or parking or driving illegally is an annoyance and a safety issue.

[@Lizndip]

Alex C they said there are no sidewalks. Pedestrians are a danger themselves

[@michaelsaintjude]

Come on, really? you want the government to control more? you must be a leftie. I bet Ur an AOC supporter, wait Im sry, Maybe you live in a country that has more of a tyrannical rule other than a Constitutional Republic which conservatives are fighting to restore here in These United States of the Americas after the last 6 POTUS. well 5 and a half. Regan had a few good points but some were extremely poor in humanity.

[@brentarnold777]

My identity grows not so much from where I live as it does from my skills and what I do.

[@westleywest7259]

It’s an old and natural urban evolution. The East Village, Haight-Ashbury, Venice Beach… always the same.

[@l.a.california6598]

Where is from L.A. ^^

[@Idahoguy10157]

LA is an interesting place to visit. However unless you’re very wealthy it’s an unlivable place. You want a good neighborhood. A gated community. Preferably a walled neighborhood with private security.

[@deezynar]

The city of Los Angeles needs to install a road that leads to a parking lot with a good veiw of the Hollywood sign. Tourism is a big financial boon for the city and they need to accomodate tourists who want to get close to the sign. I agree with the folks who live there, those streets are not made for the crowds of tourists who are driving and walking. The construction costs could be offset by having restaurants and gift shops there who lease their spaces. The lot would also have an incredible view of the city.

[@nygeriunprence]

deezynar they need those ski lifts

[@NeopolitianNPLTN]

The city needs an 8.8 earthquake if you know what I mean.

[@Linda-pw8gx]

This is great thinking!!!! I agree 100%

[@matttatts]

MELFORT TATTOO SHOP 0 seconds ago I find it so mind boggling to hear gentrification used as some type of pejorative. As if people cleaning up the slums and pushing property values up so your grandma can sell her shanty for a million dollars is some type of hardship. Really shows the complete lack of financial literacy of people now and days.

[@megaswenson]

At 19:26, isn't that commercial building (with 'Papillion' in neon) by Black architect Paul Williams? It looks like his style.

[@realityhurts8697]

Actually I beleive so. Beautiful isnt it

[@jacobh5659]

Before covid and the mass homelessness epidemic began

[@xxxYYZxxx]

They still get the credit for creating LA tho, right?

[@josecortez5213]

Hollywood sign Nimbys

[@Blue-jd8jf]

Los Angeles arquitecture should of been Spanish homes, googie, populuxe and modern arquitecture All i seen now are ugly box apartments and businesses that look like cellars

[@benjaminlibertarianscorpio]

You can’t stay in the IE for $65 a night

[@vincentreyes3872]

Super good sales people they’re just selling you something that’s not even worth it if you’re married with your wife and kids the best place to be is at home having dinner like a normal family not thinking you’re a teenager 3040 going out and partying and crazy and then all these people they do is go to coffee shops there like 3040 like big kids showing off oh my God it’s sad if you don’t haven’t had your home and your kids by 24 I see you haven’t you’ll never get it done and raising your family is the most important thing in the world helping him study help going to the sports games with them supporting them time to be partying at a nightclub fPeople are a good sales people that saw your car that looks good on the ouPeople that own their own stores in the restaurants they can’t do nothing till they can’t move them out and that’s good that the community has those people that purchased their businesses the ones that are renting of the ones that are gonna be here it hurt

[@vincentreyes3872]

I think it’s ridiculous they need to go out or there’s a Lotta undeveloped land in all kinds of nice places around Los Angeles leave it alone they already ruined it was beautiful Hillside back in the 20 it was so beautiful the hills are beautiful the trees are beautiful concrete and glass and the building is not beautiful it’s ridiculous

[@WaKincaid]

Integration isn’t acceptable , reverse discrimination is acceptable?

[@carradean]

Settle down with the ‘evolutionary’ commentary. I’ve watched this start to finish. A few things on the go yes, but no where near some rapid transformation that this depicts.

[@RuggedBrotha]

They wanna pile us up on top of each other and let us fight like rats. Theres no space. Its noisey. People are unhappy. THERE ARE TOOO MANY PEOPLE HERE. DISEASE WAITS.

[@richardbarry04553]

And fourth LA will be a pile of rubble - coming soon....

[@smoothappleboy]

so white & so bourgeois, even when it tried not to be.

[@chicharita8544]

nuzzling theknown still... educational? at the least

[@danielmarsala849]

tiny homes

[@KA-ev9xk]

like the Third Reich?

[@Rectifiable]

K A AshkNazi, Bolshevik, Soviet, Zionist, you’s!

[@xxxYYZxxx]

With hardly a single clean street and few if any gatherings of well-groomed citizenry displaying pride for their national heritage, L.A. is literally the polar opposite of the Third Reich.

[@MrBrad898540]

This documentary really glosses over the city in a big way. It ignores the nearly one hundred thousand plus homeless people and problems that go along with it. It also ignores the fact that, as a city LA changes faster than anywhere else. Within three to five years this documentary will seem even more idealistic than it does now. There is no Third LA. Just another point of view on LA. The simple truth is, LA is a city for people who want to be seen. It is a city for people who want to announce to the world, this is me, this is who I am, so pay attention to me I matter. It is about exaggerated and unrealistic expectations. It isn't a city for people who simply want to live.

[@lasmoker67]

There are thousands of people that are born and raised here that simply want to live. Those that come from all over the country and world will learn that the fantasy land in their head is just that a fantasy.

[@elebake]

No one can force you to sell your house. The only way a city can be "gentrified" is if they agree to it

[@OhMyGodHeAdmitIt]

Your statement lacks nuance. Imagine your friends, neighbors for 10 years suddenly move because they had a mortgage they couldn't pay. The businesses whose owners you used to know are gone, have moved elsewhere, rendering you mostly alone, without your community. In the same way, lots of people in Los Angeles are renting, including families, there are Latino families on my block in one rented house. The owner of the house could theoretically just sell it to a developer, and where does that family go? You have to realize that communities of color live around each other for a sense of identity but also solidarity and protection. Once your neighbors leave, you have less power.

[@elebake]

@@OhMyGodHeAdmitIt If you rent, you have no right or say in what the owner of the building (who paid for it) wants to do with it - except in Los Angeles, where they have rent control laws. You can't kick someone out to sell - you have to sell it with the tenant. If you own, you don't have to sell unless someone pays you a price that you agree to sell at. Where's the missing nuance? Please explain.

[@OhMyGodHeAdmitIt]

@@elebake I'm saying that gentrification isn't only a process of ownership of property. Here, for instance, a developer buys up several properties on a block to demolish the houses and replace it with an apartment complex that charges higher rent. Where do you think that the families go then? What kind of people move into (and very likely, in a big city, rent) these new apartments? They are probably people with more money than the families that got kicked out. These people tend to not have a vested interest in the surrounding culture they (maybe unknowingly) gentrified, and local businesses, connected to the former community, suffer. I could specify even further. I mean, you need to consider the sociocultural effects and history that even determines someone living in a space that would be gentrified. And we may have a difference in ethics. But what I think is compassionate, and I'm sure you would agree, is taking care of people and listening to and understanding their struggles. Life is more uphill for people of color than you maybe imagine.

[@pb4595]

Third LA what a pompous concept ... densification, gentrification, movement of people happen everywhere, cities are facing the same issues all over the globe

[@Master_Blackthorne]

I don't like you messing with the sound. I dislike this.

[@doktorbimmer]

*3rd LA is a sad product of the poverty bought by socialism... long gone are the prosperous days of independence and capitalism that built Los Angeles into a mega city.*

[@richardbarry04553]

doktorbimmer It’s a product of unrestricted and limitless growth - in the real world rather than fantasyland it can’t go on indefinitely

[@doktorbimmer]

*Without real growth, there is no prosperity... and then the rot sets in.*

[@richardbarry04553]

doktorbimmer Problem is that in a world with finite resources “growth” that largely involves destruction of the natural systems that support cannot continue indefinitely

[@doktorbimmer]

*Its exactly that kind of misguided, religious cult horseshit that is ruining California's economy and infecting it with poverty and ignorance.*

[@richardbarry04553]

doktorbimmer Where am I wrong? Is the Earth finite or not? Are you delusional? We are all now paying the price for years of insane economic “growth” totally removed from reality.

[@JohnSmith-vd6fc]

This documentary plays out like one extended "just so story". At some point the commute times become so untenable that people are willing to settle for smaller living spaces is less desirable neighborhoods. Artists who make little money to begin with and have little worth stealing or being murdered over are the first wave. Later we get the DIY types, then the urban techies. Some like dolling up the old stuff, and some prefer hipster modern stuff made from shipping containers ... or at least made to look like shipping containers. A neo-Marxist would call it the noodlings of Late Capitalism. I'd just call it people adjusting their lifestyles so they can live near their work, the beach and the hubbub of the city.

[@OhMyGodHeAdmitIt]

yeah I agree, the problem is that artists who come to the city for community, and to be around the hubbub, inadvertently get swathed into gentrifying neighborhoods, which upsets locals, creating tension esp. regarding race, but are inherently linked to class. As the pattern goes, if the wealthy can control the resources, they can create tension in everyone else, to distract from the real issue of wealth and power (which is also tied to structures of white supremacy) and racism is an easy tension to create. So what does the city do to show that they support either working artists or people of color? I'd like that to be answered.

[@francescapussini3697]

I realised after 23 minutes it's not gonna be about architecture...

[@renesrelics]

Lol