This $150 Bargain Rivals Luxury Timepieces In More Ways Than You'd Think - Seagull 1963 Watch Review

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[@JavierBonillaC]

I was born in 1963 and I can vouch for the quality of all things manufactured that year.

[@BaddaBigBoom]

I see what you did there ;-) (me too btw ...happy 60th!)

[@JavierBonillaC]

@@BaddaBigBoom Same to you my friend

[@janrubenmeesters6847]

😂😂

[@rava2107]

This movement is actually a swiss movement, to be specific it was originally made by Venus and Seagull bought the patent in the early 60's but if you get a good one it will run for years, and it's the cheapest chronograph movement on the market 😉 👍

[@3030-z1w]

Thanks for the tip! Makes it even more enticing

[@gdwiggy]

I believe Seagull even bought the equipment to make it from Venus themselves!

[@traviswalker8933]

@@gdwiggy they bought the patents and the equipment to save development costs to make their own movement.

[@damyr]

Fun fact: Everything written here Ben already mentioned in the video.

[@gdwiggy]

@@damyr I realized that when I first commented but the OC had a decent number of likes so I thought I might as well clarify for potential buyers. Guess a lot of people don’t actually watch the video 🤷‍♂️

[@lucafwn]

I have a "Red Star" branded one like your one: 37 mm, sapphire, transparent caseback. Great watch, I love it. Red Star is owned by the person who, when a Seagull employee, managed the production of the first "1963" replica, so in a sense I consider their version more original than the original.

[@Yogesh_war]

Guys where did you buy this watch in ail express or official website

[@wojciechkopec9728]

@@Yogesh_war I just get my on amazon

[@aPixelcoffee]

»It looks like a sports car on the wrist« is what my best friend said when he saw my panda dial version made by Sugess. They're generally the best producers of the ST19 movement, offering a plethora of choices - different case sizes, dial options, crystal options, and swan-neck regulator options. All of them are slightly better finished than the typical 150£ no-name seller while still below the 200£ mark. I recommend you opt for them, I'm very happy with the purchase.

[@josuareestevez3037]

Where did you buy yours?

[@aPixelcoffee]

@@josuareestevez3037 I bought it used. Otherwise, I'd opt for Aliexpress.

[@mehrazbd]

Can't believe this watch is still being talked about! I got mine like 5 years ago. Was my first serious watch and i love it even more i loved it on first sight ❤️

[@kodoaok626]

How it is doing now ?

[@outsidethepyramid]

How it is doing now ?

[@clyde2801]

I have had a couple of veteran watch smiths who are familiar with the original Venus movement examine a Seagull chronograph movement. Their verdict was that while the fit and finishing weren't quite up to Swiss standards, it was pretty close and fully functional to boot. One even mused that he should contact them to obtain spare parts to rehab and use in repairing the vintage originals.

[@jazzman5598]

I went to Marc’s LIW & coughed the 💰💰💰for the Sapphire Sandwich. $379.00 was super cheap when the 1st one arrived broken. Wrote Marc. He asked a few questions and I had my new (& superb) 1963 Pilot’s Chronograph. Very cool watch and mandatory for any collection. ✌🏻

[@vasiliykulev5880]

Ben, I feel like I might be speaking for more people than just myself when I say that we need a link to that stunning toolkit of yours!

[@punkypink83]

great review! and as a chinese person i have to say you werent far off with your pronunciation of various chinese words. well done! :) fun fact. the chinese character zuan is actually 1 half of the 2 characters that form the word diamond: zuan shi. literally translated it means "drilled stone" aka stone you get by drilling. so it's the term for "gem" or "jewel" in the sense that "diamond" colloqually became the term for "gem". no actual diamonds in the watch! 😂

[@Ckopp123]

I have one, and I honestly wear it more than my Tissot PRX Automatic (which is Swiss Watch!) the 1963 movement is an amazing movement!!

[@erizzle67]

I’ve got the Sugess ($200) with gooseneck and It’s easily one of my favorites. I got mine with the stainless bracelet and it was disappointing with hollow, ill fitting ends. I did some bending with pliers under a loupe and it’s now decent at a glance. Got a super nice leather strap with clasp as the main one though and it is just great.

[@ounkeo]

I ordered 3 different Sugess watches using this movement, expecting to use them as throwaway watches but I have to say, I really do like them. They are now part of my regular wear-cycle. Their newer models are finished incredibly well and looks and feels on par with the thousand dollar watches.

[@msbrownbeast]

I feel the value of the movement is even higher. Just name the least expensive Swiss mechanical chronograph with a column wheel and it's in the thousands of dollars. Not even the famed Omega Speedmaster has a column wheel - to get that column wheel, you;d have yo get the super expensive Omega Speedmaster 321 Ed White model. Or a Breitling, or a Rolex Daytona. At the $150 USD, you can't even buy a wannnabe Omega Moon SWATCH that comes with a quartz movement.

[@neilpiper9889]

I have had my 1963 for 4 years now. I wear it on a Rios light brown strap. I also have a 25 jewel Seagull automatic day date from 1985 still running perfectly. I just bought a beautiful new Sea-gull Automatic Bi Disk watch which is very beautiful and only 10..8 mm thick on a soft leather suede strap. £130 well spent. Sapphire crystal and an exhibition caseback

[@andrebalsa203]

I love the movement, so I bought three variants of the 40mm Sugess branded chronographs (Panda, Top Time Homage and Rallye). Great mechanical watches for the price.

[@fark69]

I think Sugess is the way to go if you like this movement and don't want something that looks like an old army watch

[@NathanChisholm041]

Suguess like other ali watches isn't using a real Seagull movement but a clone of the ST19! Only Seagull watches use genuine movements.

[@marcos2606]

@@NathanChisholm041 is that right? I thought that Sugess and Seagull were the same company with different translation from Chinese! :D that's explain the cheaper price of Sugess...

[@andrebalsa203]

@@marcos2606 They are different companies, Seagull manufactures this ST19 chronograph movement and Sugess/Seakoss/RedStar and others buy the ST19 and variants movements from Seagull and market their own watches with different dials and other components. But the movement is exactly the same.

[@andrebalsa203]

@@fark69 Exactly. I myself wouldn't buy the RedStar Chinese Army version because I consider the dial aesthetics outdated.

[@MaNNeRz91]

My first seagul movement had a main spring malfunction. The shop I returned it to tried using there was no issue but I sent them a video of the spring skipping immensely while winding and not fully reaching maximum tension. Replaced it no problem and the new one seems to be sound so far. Lovely watch. Full skeleton fossil townsman. People always ask about it when I wear it

[@glaubercarneirolorenzini4196]

I own a Sea Gull. Different model... Incredible time counting machine. Flawless. Automatic, sapphire, rose gold coat...

[@RoosterCogburn]

I just discovered this the other day... The original 1963 had a steel back and acrylic crystal. It used the ST19 movement which has 19 jewels. Reproductions with steel back and acrylic crystals are marked 19 Zuan appropriately. The versions with display back and sapphire crystal count both sapphire lenses as jewels and are labeled 21 Zuan. They both use ST19 movements with 19 jewels where it matters. I own a 21 zuan model and have tested both the crystal and display back and they are both indeed sapphire. Unlike my Tissot V8 which uses a mineral glass display back and a sapphire crystal. I know it doesn't matter as much on the back but I find it funny that the Chinese bother to use sapphire front and back and Tissot cheaps out. '-(

[@henkdeklapsteen6787]

Tissot has swiss movement ; ) good stuffff

[@ceskyler]

​@@henkdeklapsteen6787Sea-Gull mouvement is a reissue of a Venus, they pay the Pattent, so still a Swiss mouvement.

[@jonasalspaugh4022]

I have a Sugess watch with the seagull movement on the way. I have high hopes, it’s probably the only mechanical chronograph I will ever purchase.

[@johnjones928]

The downside of these movements are higher that average failure rates and expensive service charges, but damn it's a nice looking watch. My favorites are the Sugess tachometer pandas.

[@the5th2000]

I have a Sugess one. Love it. Where else can you get a real mechanical chronograph with genuine provenance for less than €300? Fantastic

[@aravindjoshi7447]

Have a look at Titan brand from India. Have a good variety of collections both quartz and mechanical

[@NathanChisholm041]

I bought one years ago and it has held up well! The problem now is theres to many cheap clones out there using knock off ST19 and you dont know what crap you could be buying.

[@BittersweetLeemon]

I've been looking this watch for a long time since the first review you did of the Seagull 1963. The only thing that's holding me back to pull the trigger on it is the thought of the lack of service this watch could have in the long run. I'm no expert but for what I know, this watch cannot be serviced because of the complexity of the movement, but it also looks so beautiful to not give it a try and for my tiiiiiiiiny wrist this could fit perfectly. Any comments about it?

[@goldfools5445]

You don’t service the movement, you replace it. You will still get years out of it before you need to touch it anyway. If you ever needed to replace it, this is a very inexpensive procedure. Or you just buy another watch. I can’t see the issue here.

[@gamerdaddy8597]

Just picked one up and am loving it.

[@DrSiech]

For sure this is a lot of watch for its price and they do not look terrible, in fact the old design is quite nice. The mechanic looks cheap to me, its more focused on style and not on real engineering (functionality). I would choose any good valued mechanical Swiss watch over this…. like a Tissot, Certina etc. Ben, I love your vids ❤

[@M_MTsc]

Love mine. very impressive looking watch and surprisingly accurate

[@Kciroy]

Seagull is the go-to first mechanical watch (or first chronograph) which i'd recommend to anyone, i have mine for years now and it's timeless, it's still accurate and you can match it with so many straps to have it never being boring

[@drackkor725]

This is one of the few affiliate links I can agree to most affiliate links are to Amazon selling cheap Chinese products that say made in the USA. This is clearly made in China and not hidden.

[@gusthesailor4885]

I have exactly the same as yours and for a year it has been going back and forth on my wrist without problems and with an accuracy of + 3 sec/day A very beautiful and good watch and which shows that, contrary to popular belief, China is capable of producing quality objects.

[@guss2099]

For that price, it’s quite elegant, interesting and different. If it lasts a few years, it’s a win win for me.

[@truxton1000]

I bought a Seagull chrono some years ago, looked great and worked great too. Until the hands fell off and it was impossible to remove the movement from the caseback. Only option was to remove the bezel but even this was impossible without destroying it. Yes I gave the job to a good watchmaker but he had to give up, but not until the bezel was damaged. It's now a piece of junk.

[@SQueme]

Still a banger !! 🤩 ♻i'm searching non-working ones (from Seagull but also Sugess, Alpha ...) , because the mechanical part is a pleasure 🥰

[@julianb1474]

I have one of the larger variants. Sadly it fell on the floor from a height of 3' and I discovered it wasn't shock resistant. So I had to buy another.

[@kenweller2032]

good to know

[@D19944]

What about servicing costs? I get you could just buy another but I want a relationship with this kind of watch... Lol, surely it's not too expensive in the UK

[@daniellondon6310]

Great review, Ben!

[@thomasmargolis6057]

I have this watch, and I recommend it with an unknown number of people that purchased it. Choice of size and crystal, and mechanical chronograph.

[@dararohan1209]

I bought one of these years ago but the chronograph never seemed to work and didn't keep accurate time. Haven't really considered the brand since.

[@S-Ltd1000]

I've looked at these previously and now looking for a birth year watch for my upcoming birthday. Toying with the idea of one of these, obviously not 60 years old but it's going to be as reliable as an actual 60 year old watch isn't it?🤔

[@ordinosaurs]

I pulled the trigger on a Sugess Top Time "homage" last Black Friday, and it arrived a couple days ago. I got it insanely cheap from the official Ali store (150 €, Swan neck version), and I'm blown away by the finish and the accuracy (+1s/day or thereabout). Also, I'm very unlikely to mingle with people in the know of what Breitling's original this watch is a copy of, and even less likely to ever buy said original. So, as it is, it's a fun colourful watch perfect for summer wear, as beautiful to look at from the front as it is from the back. The exposed mechanical complexity is mesmerizing. All in all, bargain.

[@ZoidPickle]

Great watch, the only snafu I can find on the internet, is Maintanace, its quite a tricky Piece to service. Not a deal Breaker though. 👍

[@tods.9947]

I have the HKJ (Hong Kong Joe?) variant with the original jet (Star Trek like) logo instead of the red star. It’s really well made and certainly punches above its price point. One issue is water resistance. Mine fogged up on a very humid day, but this went away after I got it inside and temp stabilized.

[@pzwolski]

Put a silica-gel bag inside the case. 🤣

[@terrybyford3605]

I've not heard of your HKJ version, but my HKed has the same logo.

[@cosmic-tiger]

My only hesitation with watches like this, great value proposition as they are, is what is the maintenance of a mechanical chronograph years from now like? If something goes wrong it could be a potentially complicated or expensive fix surely.

[@terminal9500]

Just buy a new movement

[@williamjames9515]

I love mine! Looks good, works well and is reasonable in size.

[@holumulu2943]

Can't wait to get one

[@davidwharmby4615]

These are great watches,I have one, and have just bought the one in bronze, the Chinese watches are now where Japanese watches in the 1960s. Now the world is finally taking note, so get them while you can, before they go up in price.

[@nishikanta200]

Hey Ben .. please review one of sugess chronograph most popular is Breitling homage

[@kindface]

Great 'discovery' indeed. Well, I'm talking about me discovering this little gem.....from channels such as yours. It's a pretty little thing. This is it....I'm getting it in my next visit to Hong Kong...in a couple of months. I currently have a Sinn (don't this German brand make some of the most exquisite bauhaus gems?) which uses an original batch of Lemania handwound chronograph movements that had been stored away back in the 60s (or is it the 50s) until Sinn had the foresight to buy the whole lot over, dusted off the cobwebs, touched them all up, and put them into its brand new chronographs back in the early 2000s. Now with this reproduction of an equally old and storied movement such as this Venus handwound chronograph movement in this Sea-Gull, it looks not at all out of place with my Sinn. Not to mention an El Primero movement I'm still keeping in the form of my Zenith. I'm a chronograph guy so they all add to my collection of an Omega Moonwatch chronograph (co-axial) and a Girard Perregaux white gold chronograph.

[@bking82]

my wrist is 17 centimeters which of the two options it's for this size 38 or 40?

[@samzerafa3185]

Excellent video Ben , had mine now 3 years but use it occasionally due to many other of my collection taking preference. It's a beautiful watch and has the vintage feel along with its military provenance being the main reason why l purchased it. I also have both case back versions and wear it on a leather bund strap which is extremely comfortable

[@SamSensei91]

Your pronouncing of the word „zuan“ 钻 was pretty good tbh 😉

[@BigDuke6ixx]

I got one 4 years ago, and it's still going strong. Big sales, small margins = big profits. Look at Bremont, small sales, massive margin = a loss making company.

[@BreakinDaHabit]

nice detailed review, Ben. i just wanna say I'd buy spaghetti scametti js

[@michaelschmidt9278]

....I wonder how the Chinese managed to sell a quality watch at such a cheap price? Great components and performance....I *wonder* what their cost cutting measures might be...😬

[@jakekaywell5972]

The tooling costs have LONG since been paid off, mate. Marketing's immaterial too from what I understand, with Sea-Gull basically leaving it up to YT reviewers to get the word out. All that's left are material and labor costs.

[@DR1NK]

Bought one last week as a new year present

[@drorwis1]

Have it, love it 🙂

[@wtflks]

I have the 1963 in 36mm an god, it`s beautiful

[@chrisatkinson5495]

I love this watch I love the colours as well it’s generally a sweet watch 😊👍

[@billbouldin2969]

Yo Ben Happy New Year !

[@ted1899]

Could you review MaisonDuTemps watches, I can't tell if they're actually good watches or just cheap Royal Oak imitations

[@christianrambissoon1141]

What's the disadvantage of the non-goose-neck version? Wasn't aware that existed until shopping around.

[@frasitopoquito4144]

I have a broken one, a few months after purchase it just stopped working. Took it to a watchmaker who said it would cost more to repair than repurchase. There's no way I would ever buy again. Typical garbage.

[@rimas.kalpokas]

And since this video is about homages, I would go for a Breitling ST1901 based homage. Seems prettier, even if as much original.

[@wealthaddictsltd.5121]

Where can I pick one of these up??

[@nathanielracine]

Imma start buying 304s for the 304s

[@BAF605]

Great little chrono but you oversold it. One glance at the hands and the screws in the back (lacquered not truly blued) tell you instantly it's a budget watch. That said you will not find a column wheel chronograph anywhere near this price elsewhere. The cheapest I know of is the Longines Avigation Bigeye. Buy one (or more) and enjoy but don't fool yourself that you have bought a watch worth anywhere near the figures mentioned at the start of the video.

[@over2seeyer]

this watch is THIIIIIIIIIIIIC

[@ungabunga8074]

I want this watch so bad, but I feel like it's risky, because there are so many options and their on Ali Express. I feel like there is a high possibility that you could get a fake one. Where can I find the one in this video? Also, where can I find one that's under $200, and is 100% the real thing???

[@bashmahs]

If the seagul didnt had the chinese writing and 21 zuan, it would be decent

[@TheKenjoje]

this was mentioned a lot on the internet in last 5 years or so....

[@paulmeyer5682]

Tolle Uhr zum unglaublich günstigen Preis.😆

[@litan114]

trust me - they are not reliable - after 6 mths on the wrist, the chrono went cuckoo / KO what you pay is what you get - in terms of quality suggest to get normal 3 hand if you are going for any Seagull mvt

[@rowaystarco]

I love my seagull.

[@travosK]

Im loving the chinese watch detour

[@lawandhassan1647]

Can you review The filippo loretti matter it does look good ?

[@MeXtSxDarKmoonX]

Seagull movement is good, but your holding a fake, your missing the makers mark stamp above the symbols on the bottom just above the 6

[@AgitpropPsyop]

Let’s be honest, if they marketed this watch is a $2000 swiss made, it would instantly be loved by everyone. But because it’s made in China and 10 times less those “watch guys” won’t have anything to do with it. The gate keeping is so silly.

[@Corgiking521]

I’m not surprised. Watches are all marketing.

[@TheInselaffen]

Is he growing out his hair? Seems longer than normal.

[@jerryboics9550]

Common theme with all these great bargain watches he reviews. Affiliate links. This is basically a sales pitch.

[@sneakyfildy]

design is meh, dunno if anyone is byuing watches based on their internals/price. Wish they do something else in the same price range

[@jakekaywell5972]

I am in fact someone who buys watches based off of movement quality relative to dollar value.

[@zergbong]

I do not like the massive red star on the face (I come from communist family, don't judge me), and I don't like the connotation of wearing military watches of authoritarian armies. Vostok Komandirskie has different connotation today than a year ago. If you asked me 20 years ago I would think that's rad, but edgy is no longer funny to me as I am old bastard now. I also hate the Military Swiss army watches that has the flag and the word military on the front, swiss army is for swiss people. Would you wear Iranian military watch, or Saudi, or Israeli, or North Korean, or some other questionable army? I wouldn't.

[@jakekaywell5972]

My family came from the HPR and I would gladly wear this watch, red star and all. That's in fact a bonus for me.

[@lurpakspreadable9751]

Can you do a gshock video with nico ?

[@rimas.kalpokas]

A real Sea-Gull is like 600$, all cheaper are copies

[@Salty3439]

Interesting 🤔

[@JestersDeadUK]

Seen this around on various review channels but yea, it's a NO from me, could get a few Casios for that 😇

[@hamskyxxx]

With smart watches becoming more popular it's only sensible for top brands to make cheaper high quality alternatives to stay relevant else we all know what happened to the point and shoot camera.

[@impsire]

I own two of these. A 40mm Chrono Heritage M1963/X - SEA-GULL ST1901 bought directly from Sugess Watch in China and a 40mm limited edition Red Star bronze Seagull 1963 that came from the official Seagull 1963 store in Belgium. The Seagull is a watch that is hard to fault and I‘m quite fond of both of mine but my customer experience with both companies was hardly satisfactory. In sum I was swindled twice. The Sugess was supposed to come with the Swan Neck movement but didn‘t and unfortunately too much time had elapsed before I found out for me to be able to do anything about it. As for the Belgian Seagull 1963, it was only after I had received it that I found out that they do not individually number their limited edition watches (instead all 300 are numbered 1/300) and that it was missing it‘s tag, manual and registration QR code. It was also shipped about two months past it‘s preassigned shipping date. The company in Belgium casually dismissed my concerns and when I asked to return it they informed me that the 14 day return policy had expired. Be very careful who you buy from. The Seagull 1963 company in Belgium seems rotten to the core. I wouldn’t deal with them again if they paid me. BEWARE.

[@JellyBean-ed2uq]

FREAKING FINALLY. You've been showing the chrono for a while now but never did a review. It's finally here!

[@theexcaliburone5933]

I love the communist red star, it really angers Americans

[@TacticalMechaStriker]

same, I wear mine every day

[@jakekaywell5972]

Hey, fellow piss-off-Americans club member!

[@Sabundy]

So many hilarious comments on here with double standards and hypocrisy about politics and governments. I'm sure these same people happily wear stuff with other things on it that are no better in terms of their backgrounds being little better.

[@WatchesOnWood]

how many are typing comments on their iPhones, for example?

[@Pcman77]

I was thinking the exact same. Like how many of the people making the comments wear Hugo Boss clothing for example.

[@Sabundy]

@@Pcman77 mate ...it's like all the idiots that love to say "made in China" in a condescending voice ..... usually while holding an iphone. Which is 100% made in China. In sweat shop factories with terrible working conditions where anti-suicide nets are placed on the roofs to stop the workers jumping off and killing themselves. Or wear Nike products. Products from a company that has been caught so many times making it's stuff cheaply in swear shops with child labour. Or more to your point drive a Mercedes or a BMW? Do you think any of these people don't buy products from these brands? All these people are just selective in their supposed "morality". And only apply it selectively. Usually for political purposes.

[@niksoncutts]

I got the Seagull 1963 during the 11/11 sale and it hasn't left my wrist since then. It's incredible. Only thing I'm still looking out for is a nice leather strap for it!

[@IMIkar]

how much you Pay?

[@niksoncutts]

@@IMIkar $130! It was a total steal at that price.

[@Yogesh_war]

Which website did you buy ? Pls let me know

[@danschlacks5740]

There are a number of reviews available for this watch. This was the most comprehensive and helpful that I've seen, and has greatly aided me in figuring out what configuration to get. Nicely done Ben - thank you!

[@nikolaiamann8921]

I own a seagull1963 chronograph and can just say, that these are a piece of sh*#. After 2 weeks I couldn't wind it anymore and has to send it back. Came Back and got broken again. And there is the big point, there is no one who will do a reperature for ca. 600€ for a 150€ watch, with a cheap unknown movement inside, so you throw it away After 5 years. Also, they don't have quality controls before they export the watches. That's not my idea of a time piece, so I can just say, save a little bit money more and buy a seiko.

[@KaeptnMS]

i have been wearing the sugess 40mm and sapphire version of that watch almost everyday for a year now and am very happy with it. no issues at all with it

[@pzwolski]

I have heard that crown axes are thin and tend to break.

[@Troklo]

I have the 40mm sapphire version on a champagne leather suede strap and it looks crazy elegant, it was even the watch I wore to my brothers wedding preferring it to a Tag and Panerai that I also own. This is a watch that imo every fellow watch enthusiast should own.

[@bking82]

my wrist is 17 centimeters which of the two options it's for this size 38 or 40 mm?

[@Troklo]

@@bking82 Mine is also 17 cm (hello fellow small wrist) and the 40 mm fits great.

[@nopenorm9031]

Got a sugess moonphase with dark dial that has a seagull movement. For around 200€, it is one of my favorite pieces in the collection and literally looks amazing.

[@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen]

The st19 looks cheap though. They use chrome plated brass for the mainplate and train bridges. I assume its an inexpensive way to give the movement some flare but ironically cheapens it imo. Not to mention they are not very consistent in reliability. I have one that still works great and ive had a couple that had issues after a year or two of being in my rotation.

[@HonoluluBlue81]

The only problem I have with this watch is that it’s basically disposable. The cost to get it serviced is probably double the cost of the watch. Also the movement does not have the best track record for reliability

[@1stamendmentmedia464]

Not quite sure how fixing your problem 100% for a 150 bucks and ending up with a brand new watch is actually a problem. I get what you're saying, but.....that's just another check in the plus column. Read the comments, most people (including myself and those I know that own this watch), have had good luck with the movement.

[@Vernomeno]

Probably never heard of? You do know that you have a channel about budget watches, right? :D I'm pretty confidend that many here heard of them or saw one or even own one.

[@Theo-ul8qm]

I quite like this watch. I think you didn’t mention some of its less attractive features (like the painted blue screws), but that’s expected at this price. I actually think that the dial lets it down a little bit, it could be a lot prettier. This is probably the best value mechanical chronograph short of an Omega, so I think it’s a gret buy for anyone.

[@Atchaboiiii]

The blue screws and hands are allegedly annodized, which is in between paint and heat treatment for desirability.