This $30 Part Will Improve Your Audio System!

[@GreekAudioGeek]

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[@andyandy2684]

Hello. The links to the switches you used no longer works. I would be most grateful if you could repost them of respond to this message. I am close to pulling the trigger on LHY or Gustard switches. They seem awfully costly for switches that may or may not yield any results at all. Thank you.

[@totalplonker824]

Rather than measurements you choose to use your ears. Yes, I like your style and of course the way you present your findings. Always admire people who's willing to talk straight off the cuff. Idk I suppose one picks up on their enthusiasm. Well done

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Thank you very much. I really do appreciate it and it means a lot as I put a lot of time and effort into each vid. Each vid has 30++ hours total time into it.

[@connorduke4619]

Fascinating video. Headquarter Audio has eached similar conclusions to you. Hot tip on the bang for buck stakes is the LHY Audio SW-8.switch. LHY also make excellent bang for buck master clocks.

[@deanfisher1656]

This is great…..I wanted to test two streamers side by side and discovered this phenomenon. I now have a Netgear 5 gang switch on everything Ethernet…..main system streamer, secondary system and home theater. Makes a notable difference. Agree let your ears do the sound management. 😊

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Thank for watching!

[@Dano831]

Your intro video is waaayyy too long.

[@n.lyndley.9889]

Love this guy’s exacting process, but trying to determine the actual winning combo felt like a cryptography exam for the CIA. 😮‍💨

[@GreekAudioGeek]

@@n.lyndley.9889 Sorry. I agree it could have been better presented. Happy to answer any questions you have.

[@blue6point62]

So I just did this modification with my mid to higher-end headphone rig. I had been running a single Dlink 108 for many years. I have seen another similar stacking Dlink thread in a forum but with an Ifi LAN iSilencer between the two switches which is what I did since I already own the Ifi. This was a noticeable improvement to the single switch and the Ifi plugged direct to my streamer. Many will ask what is the proof. I listen while I work as background music and been so for years. While focused on work I am not getting the fatigue I use to get at same listening levels. Yes, not scientific at all. But while focused on work I am not trying to hear improvements. Maybe not enough to convince others but I am adding two Dlinks to my main 2 channel system and relocate the Ifi Lan to between the switches. Cheap hack and worth every penny IMO.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. It really is as simple as you say - try for yourself. If it works - great. If it doesn't, then no harm.

[@KeithSkronek]

It was 4 minutes into the video before I could figure out what type of switch you were talking about. “Switch” is a generic term. That being said, I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@dornauge1995]

AlphaAudio also measured quite a few audio switches and came to a similar conclusion... expensive doesnt mean better!

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Alpha Audio is FANTASTIC. In fact, here is my interview with them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqLVp4FmpbpmsJY

[@dornauge1995]

@@GreekAudioGeek oh sweet, watching right now :) thanks for the link

[@xliontamer2483]

Is it always better to plug into a switch rather than into my router say with a long run of ethernet cable? My router when in my listening room does add noise heard when I listen to my turntable. Can I ameliorate things by putting my router in a room upstairs and plugging a switch into the wall in my listening room?

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Every house is different. You will need to try and see what sounds best for you.

[@mattmarceau8156]

Maybe I missed this, but did you try two of the more expensive d-link boxes together? I could see how you’d go down the rabbit hole on this one…very interesting.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Hi Matt - I did. I didn't cover every combination in the video as it would have been over 1 hour long. :). It sounded a bit muted and lifeless with just the two expensive boxes. The $30 Dlinks added lifelikeness that could become too much once adding more than two of them and the $99 Dlink helped balance that out while continuing to increase the open and airy sounds of the switches working together. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!

[@joebellanca4949]

Thanks for your info, time and effort. On the DGS-1016D how do you have the dip switches set? Just using one of the smaller switches I hear a difference. I am going to insert the DGS-1016D next and then another smaller switch to see the differences as I add them in.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Hi - I didn't touch any of the switches on the 1016D

[@joebellanca4949]

Thanks

[@jungtarcph]

Sorry if I double posted, A) Why not use WiFi. Then there is no interference from the router? I guess it is less stable, but you can have it 15 inches away. B) Or why not download the media and run it though your local NAS? But 👍 for the switches, I ordered a 30 EUR switch and will try and add it in between my streamer and my 4G router 😁😁😅😅, but I guess my DAC needs a linear PSU first 😁

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Hi - no worries. I responded to you other post and answered your question. :)

[@beefsupreme510]

Excellent video! Have you tried incorporating an FMC in to your chain? Wonder what your thoughts would be on it. Thanks!

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Hello! Thanks for watching. The Telegartner OPT BRIDGE I have in my Telegartner video is an optical converter that is much better than the FMC's I have tried. I am also going to be doing another round of FMC testing in the near future so be sure to subscribe.

[@mariol6071]

What about using stramers built in wifi? Is there benefit of using cable? I am usin bluesound

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Hi - in almost all instances wifi (assuming you have a higher resolution system) will be inferior and subject to interference vs. a wired ethernet cable. Try your system and see if you can notice a difference. You may or may not.

[@mariol6071]

@@GreekAudioGeek unfortunately i dont have ethernert in listening room. Do you think i benefit if i add wifi extender and from there i take cable to streamer?

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Typically extenders will make it worse.

[@welderfixer]

Michael, I cannot find the John Swinson that you spoke of. I'm very interested in his experience in network engineering. Can you please lead me to his work? Thank you, Kevin

[@GreekAudioGeek]

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[@dornauge1995]

subbed :) good luck on your youtube jorney, glad i found your channel

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Thank you so much!!

[@70grade37]

Awesome to see that you use Wire World cables! Larry is good shit! Great Equipment!

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Thanks for watching! They make good cables for sure.

[@soniclink8960]

Hi Brian I have watched your videos. What do you advocate in my situation? I have Verizon Fios coming to the residence on their cable which connects to my Wi-Fi router. Standard Ethernet cables connect from the router to Apple TV and to my AVR. I stream via Music Life app or chrome cast. Perhaps my situation is too simple to benefit?

[@GreekAudioGeek]

For $30 is worth a try and see if you notice a difference.

[@surfdancer777]

This looks interesting but I couldn't find your response to Jungtarcph regarding the use of wifi or playing from NAS as an alternative. Could you please repeat it?

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Wifi is inferior in every way when it comes to high-end listening. For casual listening it is fine. Wifi is not immune to interference.

[@surfdancer777]

Ah I kinda had that feeling, thanks for confirming. What are your thoughts on playing from NAS? Would it still benefit from adding the network switches?

[@GreekAudioGeek]

I'm a big believer in experimenting as every system and system issues are different. The switches are cheap enough that I would experiment and see what you think. Remember - noise and interference gets into everything / all cables. Anything you can do to help fight it is a good thing.

[@bobzador4038]

I went from a basic TP-link switch to the D-Link DGS-108 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch, and to my pleasant surprise it made a difference going into my HiFi Rose streamer. More clarity, wider sound stage, nice audio hack.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Absolutely! Amazing how much $30 can improve a system. Thanks for sharing.

[@bobzador4038]

Never thought at same price point, D Link, versus TP link or Cisco would have any audible difference

[@GreekAudioGeek]

Yup. And they do for sure. The TP-Link is REALLY poor sounding.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

@@bobzador4038 Neither did I. I was pretty shocked.

[@GreekAudioGeek]

* * Links of My Gear: (PLEASE support this channel by using these links) * * Cables: -- Siltech Classic Legend Network Cable: www.monarch-systems.com/contact/ -- WireWorld Ethernet Cable (per WW make sure to get the 2M version for best performance): amzn.to/3HE5SuZ Ethernet Audio Gear: -- Waversa Ethernet cable and filters:www.kevalinaudio.com/copy-of-waversa-systems-inc -- Paul Pang QUAD switch: Email me to purchase one. Price is $2100 -- I use TWO of these switches: amzn.to/3RehXtP -- I also have the two small D-Links plugged into this unit - it helps tame the brightness that will happen using just two of the smaller D-Links without this one: amzn.to/3Dnrbyo -- Here are the cables I use between the switches: amzn.to/3DjWERW Audio Gear: -- Klipsch La Scala Speakers: amzn.to/3kTrIl2 -- SVS Subwoofer: amzn.to/3kHfwDU -- Power conditioner for the main system: amzn.to/3Y86i1R -- Power conditioner that used to be for the main system, but is now used for all my Ethernet Switches and Subwoofer: amzn.to/3HB5Hzt - RevOPods isolation feet - Link to the dealer I got them from - Tell Ron I sent you: www.liquidhifi.com/contact/ - IsoAcoustics Isolation feet: amzn.to/3Sg49Qi Camera and Videography/Studio Gear: - Sony FX3 Cine Camera: amzn.to/3kVZ9Ec - Anton/Bauer Titon Extended Battery Kit: amzn.to/3SUwWtS - Voighlander Macro Lens: amzn.to/3L1vR1q - Sony 24mm wide angle lens: amzn.to/3YG2QMa - Sony 85mm lens: amzn.to/3XknnVB - Manfrotto Tripod: amzn.to/3YzMwg8 - Neve Shelford Channel Strip: amzn.to/403ehiC -- iMac Computer used: amzn.to/3jb8qax -- Empirical Labs Distressor: amzn.to/408T475 -- RME Fireface Audio Interface: amzn.to/3HhWdZs -- Warm Audio WA-251: amzn.to/3RdzAdc -- Warm Audio WA-47: amzn.to/3wDuiP2 -- Sennheiser Professional MKE 400 Directional On-Camera Shotgun Microphone for iPhone: amzn.to/3WN3kPw -- RME D/A: amzn.to/3Y8cMhc -- Sennheiser Professional MKE 600 Shotgun Microphone: amzn.to/3HdECSB -Aputure Studio Lighting: amzn.to/3HfZngr - Lighting stands (3 of them: amzn.to/3I8HQZb Misc: -- Apple TV I use: amzn.to/3XOWFpe -- Laser tape measure I use: amzn.to/3Dmdgse