This 80's Song Inspired Mario's Music

[@kantikun134970]

“The similarity” Yeah, that’s *the song*

[@johnsherfey3675]

Copy Pasta

[@lifeisgood12341]

Not really

[@megatrix500]

You all are just bad

[@pukmin4498]

@Dennis Similar Instruments? Yes Same Song? No

[@doggo4393]

I am nobody no they didn’t, your talking about like 3 seconds of the song that slightly sounded like that theme, don’t lie please, and don’t call them both the same in it’s entirety

[@DillyzThe1]

2:50 I literally thought you were just playing a Mario Bros jazz... Edit: Thanks alvallac21 for fixing my typo.

[@aestheticaltwat]

Breaking the ‘Same’ cycle early before it takes off.

[@alvallac2171]

*were

[@molo-molo5103]

DillyzThe1 just like super mario 3D world

[@ruadeil_zabelin]

If you listen to t-square you feel like you're listening to all sorts of music from 80's games. Its weird

[@shutup7304]

@@aestheticaltwat Same

[@BiohazardCake]

This is so weird, I grew up listening to nintendo music and now I love city pop, city funk all types of rock and jazz and more. Holy shit

[@bunstinkerton7942]

Me too! I didn't realize there's probably a reason for that Haha!

[@oldencreek6587]

Stuff like Megaman X, FF Mystic Quest, Zelda: Link to The Past, Spawn: The Videogame, Final Fantasy Tactics, Sonic, Tyrian and a bunch of movies made it impossible for me to resist loving power metal, folk metal and black metal. I've known this for many years. Your childhood years are a fertile ground for influences.

[@gamedad1984]

Same! hahaha..

[@ericfricke4512]

Why is that weird?

[@Jimbodawg]

@@ericfricke4512 You do know weird can mean uncanny, right? Which in this case I'm sure it was uncanny to discover songs heard from childhood that may have been disregarded as influential but actually having a very deep influence on tastes later in life.

[@iLikeTheUDK]

I love how the track that inspired the underground theme in Mario is called "Let's Not Talk About It"

[@lukel.6582]

Let's not talk about that fact

[@duoxiashao4005]

dont talk about it

[@unargentinocualquiera01]

Let's not talk about that or Nintendo will sue us

[@PearGoesIn]

Yeah, let’s not talk about it…

[@LITTLE1994]

The name of that song is straight up hilarious.

[@Sunspot9522]

As a musician, I can atest to the fact that when writting music, elements from our favorite songs often slip in unconscious. John Williams Star Wars is a big example, as he was a big fan of the Planets Suite by Gustav Holst.

[@Sunspot9522]

Another example is Rebbeca Sugar's 'Stronger than You' which was heavily inspired by Grover Washington's 'Just the two of us.'

[@johnnyc.31]

Lucas literally used the Planets Suite as temp music while editing Star Wars. There was nothing unconscious about emulating it. It was their guide.

[@AquaticMammalOnBicycle]

The other big one with Williams and Star Wars is STRAVINSKY. I listened to Stravinsky for the first time and I was like “why does it feel like I’m having an X-wing/spaceship space battle when this music was written in like 1910.”

[@Kumquat_Lord]

I can hear so much of Mars in some of John Williams' compositions

[@Wired4Life2]

And Erich Wolfgang Korngold’s score for the 1942 film _Kings Row._

[@Blader2600]

He didn't even try to change the underground theme lmao

[@LordMarlle]

Well it is just a small doodle, and hey it totally worked

[@Bi_scotti_5]

They're even the same time signature and tempo lol

[@MoxieCat]

I mean it's not much, but the underground theme jumps down a fourth before it loops. "Let's Not Talk About It" stays the same the whole time, so there's at least ONE change.

[@Bi_scotti_5]

@@MoxieCat that's true! I'm just saying he didn't do much to differentiate the two other than less percussive elements and the measures after the first couple. My point was it's still rhythmically the same

[@justinchannel128]

To be fair, it is literally a bassline. There’s not much to change

[@gyd67ckn]

Some comments are harsher on Kondo than the video, and some of the comments are saying all copying is fine, which is going too far in the opposite direction. The truth is, some of these are common musical idioms that aren't *specific* enough to be plagiarised, like the Starman theme, which is just modulating between two seventh chords in a pretty common way. But it's still interesting! Because it does it in a way that was a common genre convention in the genres Kondo was listening to (which this video absolutely understands ), and helps us understand a composer who, to Western ears, seems to almost have magic powers, because he's drawing from genre idioms we weren't exposed to. The only exception, I think, is the underground theme... especially rhythmically, it almost has to be Kondo deliberately quoting a tune he liked a lot, and then remixing it a bit as a kind of homage. He probably wouldn't have done that if he knew people would be analysing these 80s bleeps decades later, but to his credit he does seem to namedrop all the artists that influence him, which shows integrity.

[@poobens]

CFan well said. Totally agree!

[@gyd67ckn]

@@superserversleuth: Er... No music theory term can save my brain? Want to expand on that, or is that your final say on the matter?

[@kc-ue2kj]

It's understandable that most people here wouldn't see this based on deep musical understanding. Not everyone here plays an instrument, of course. But, really, you've gotta have a better understanding of music for your opinion to hold merit in this particular case. I don't pretend to be an expert, but I have been playing guitar for 12 years now. For example, I see a lot of popular comments here complaining about the Starman theme. As I see it, it's really not that special. It's basic. It's just a piece revolving around two chords (G major and Gmajsus, correct me if I'm wrong) played on repeat and really fast. On guitar, it sounds like something a highschool band can come up with. Kondo would've made something similar without having heard of the song he allegedly copied it from. Hell, before I watched this video I thought the composer of that short instrumental came up with it because he couldn't think of anything else, like he was rushing for a deadline or something.

[@jonestraloma]

This post owns the whole comment section

[@stwbmc98]

This should be the top comment. It really understands the point of the video that so many people seem to be missing.

[@AguFungus]

Oh boy, SiIvagunner is going to have a field day with this one!

[@limabean8948]

You

[@jcwalker722]

Burvil him

[@canalmorto1011]

Aww Shit,Here We Go Agin

[@wigwagstudios2474]

isnt he dead lmao

[@canalmorto1011]

@@wigwagstudios2474 *N O*

[@alexfraser8352]

The underground theme? Yeah, *let's not talk about it*

[@berovec]

Why?

[@sonichuthehedgehog5743]

@@berovec idk

[@Robincredible]

5:13 hahaha

[@alexfraser8352]

@@Robincredible finally someone got the joke 😁

[@JTheMelon]

@@berovec r/woooosh

[@lanciferian]

I need a playlist with all these "inspirations"

[@Rhapsody92]

Just listen to Mort Garson's Plantasia

[@pianojay5146]

I have a good playlist with arts

[@thecianinator]

I think the opening riff of the Super Mario Bros theme was inspired by the opening riff of Chuck Mangione's cover of the Side Street theme

[@Dboi_P]

Skeloton Popeye

[@egy7167]

@@Rhapsody92 omg i was listening to Plantasia and suddudly i was like "is that Zelda's lullaby?"

[@krasserbub5068]

Its cool to hear storys of art that went from influenced to influential

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

[@alvallac2171]

*It's cool (not possessive) *stories (when pluralizing a noun that ends in -y, drop the -y and add -ies)

[@linus6718]

@@alvallac2171 What about "flybys"?

[@seyguh4177]

alvallac21 Dude, who cares? It’s a KZbin comment, not a thesis paper.

[@drowningin]

@@seyguh4177 Grammar Nazi's have nothing else to do, but Nazi all grammars!

[@gilliganmcman9833]

5:19 my mouth literally dropped when I heard it

[@Cuzjudd]

Mine dropped about 5 separate times

[@bluecorp8557]

Andrei Despinoiu 😂😂😂😂

[@guestaccount1801]

@Andrei Despinoiu don't get all literal about the word "drop" now

[@EX0TIC_ECL1PSE]

@@guestaccount1801 ...

[@lityfity4197]

@Arnold101Knight bruh

[@GhostMotion7]

-Bro, lemme copy your homework +Sure, just change something so it doesn’t look identical

[@chairwood]

I like ur -+

[@repenttoday191]

Sigma7 LOL..

[@jimmymartinez9994]

Guilty...

[@Outliers4Life]

I know this is a joke but this really couldnt be further from the truth. If you actually consider this copying then you truly think on the most surface of levels

[@DrachenBaren2010]

@@Outliers4Life Well, explain it then.

[@parkedvanproductions8059]

Imagine a dad that was into all the same bands Koji was into and being like. "Holy shit why is my son's Christmas present playing my favourite bands?"

[@SackboyLBP]

Favorite* no offense

[@stick15]

Sackboy favourite is correct in British english, also there was no reason to say no offence.

[@carpetchair5778]

@@SackboyLBP You know both spellings are correct?

[@DangerSimmons]

@@carpetchair5778 Americans. Yikes. We should continue to bug them with our "alternate" spelling. Remember some of them even think they are speaking "American" xD

[@Rpr1580]

@@SackboyLBP favourite is the non american way to say it

[@Kapin05]

The Starman and Summer Breeze connection is really obvious in the starman theme heard in SM64. It even shares the same harmony!

[@UBvtuber]

Yeah, these connections get even more obvious when you hear how they expanded these themes in the later games. The mario flying music sounds super similar, and the Overworld theme in Mario Odyssey is almost a straight cover.

[@naderaboulhosn]

Who gets the star and doesn't immediately start sprinting?

[@Delorean014]

Monsters lol

[@IronMan3582]

GOTTA GO FAST

[@TheTurnipKing]

I am never not sprinting.

[@p.diddykong5047]

Id start sprinting too if I was unstoppable haha

[@EndlessLands]

Yes, it is the instinct so much for players to run when they get invincibility, that developers actually use this tendency for added challenge and trickery. In that they later learned to purposely put invincibility powerups immediately before platform sections and cliffs which will cause death when the player rushes too quickly. Something to think about next time you take a death from falling while invincible to enemies.

[@EnzoMiyazaki2]

If you listen to the lyric part of "Summer Breeze", you can also notice the chords that will inspire the Game Over theme of Super Mario World.

[@Fuzy2K]

Oh my god you're right O_O

[@trackgeek7399]

@@Fuzy2K What time stamp?

[@Fuzy2K]

@@trackgeek7399 It's about 20 seconds into the song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3mYfGmcopd2Zqs

[@Wired4Life2]

Lol, thought of Seals & Crofts for a sec. :b

[@Intellect_123]

that summer breeze track also sounds like the wing cap stage in Mario 64

[@cross_t122]

Intellect123 cause it’s a remix of the starman theme

[@hetdowsha2968]

The wing cap is literally the offspring of summer breeze.

[@gem6862]

It sounds even more like summer breeze than the star theme

[@franceskinskij]

it sounds actually like Frank Zappa "Son of mr. Green Genes"

[@LITTLE1994]

Because it uses the Star theme.

[@durdleduc8520]

The song that sounded like the Underworld theme made me physically stop. They were so identical I just stopped computing.

[@joakimsiljelind118]

One thing that I find genius about the Mario theme is that it has timing lag. The notes come alittle later than you are expecting (this is very easy to notice when you listen to covers of it since allmost no one covering it has this lag). This delay makes your own responses feal quicker and more "intense". The music is esential for the games experince. This effect is intensified since the sound effects are not delayed.

[@JinzoCrash]

Now I want to have a hacked version of SMB that uses the mp3s, woven masterfully into them.

[@astral2048]

I'mma make that.

[@DAgamon21]

They can do that with snes games and CD quality music

[@nehemiahcuevas16]

Asrath Qathreth who are you again? 😴😪😴

[@Punttipate62]

@Asrath Qathreth r/gatekeeping

[@containercore6832]

Just wanted to quickly address one thing in this otherwise informative video. In this context fusion is short for jazz fusion. So when Kondo says 'Japanese Fusion' he means jazz fusion from Japan as opposed to jazz fusion from America (like Herbie Hancock). City pop is basically Japanese pop with a big disco/soul influence. There's a lot of overlap between jazz fusion, soul, and funk but Casoipea and T Square fall under jazz fusion and the Tatsuro Yamashita and Piper records are City pop. Not trying to be a pedantic genre police just wanted to point out that the terms aren't synonymous!

[@batastical1437]

Nintendo: Oh, you used one chord similar to one of our songs? Sued. Also Nintendo: Let's just straight up copy whole songs.

[@kittamitz]

That is so right. But eh, its Koji's fault, right?

[@ITSTAKING]

Pretty much. The game soundtracks lost so much of their luster for me after watching this :/

[@lalomontoyajr.9282]

@@ITSTAKING Me too lol! But everything great is a copy of something else just with a lil' tweek. I still think these Nintendo tunes and games are legendary.

[@sylph7543]

It's okay when Nintendo does it

[@mydjmode]

😆

[@LocrianDorian]

2:30 That's just an ascending arpeggio in fours, there's hundreds of classical pieces that have that pattern. Everyone is inspired by music they listen to though, none of this should come as a surprise.

[@AXOLOTLKINQ]

Exactly lol. That pattern is soooo common in music im not suprised that it made it into a Zelda game

[@nicksimms3771]

Yeah, it’s literally just an ascending diminished scale

[@theludonarrian]

Except no other songs sound 90% like the Zelda dungeon.

[@musicfriendly12]

He is talking about the chromatic line line on top, you don't see it in classical pieces like that...

[@realdregu]

Your name screams _music theory_

[@ursidae97]

Mario but every single song is replaced with it's inspiration.

[@XaneMyers]

That'd be a great...MSU-1 hack!

[@tbewin1z143]

@@NintendoRPG100Percent most all were

[@AndresMejiasfotografo]

"The only art i'll ever study is stuff i can steal from." - David Bowie.

[@ashhicks6664]

Andres Mejias did he actually say this lol

[@treseancann1261]

Well, as Picasso said, good artists copy, great artists steal.

[@BreeceMatarazzo]

Creativity: the art of concealing your inspirations

[@chk1230]

The deeper you get into many artistic genres you start to connect the dots between an artist and their influences.

[@LITTLE1994]

It is indeed very interesting Kondo's early music happened to be coincidental to older artists' songs. But it is true, NO major work exists without being inspired by something made prior.

[@SlyHikari03]

So the underground theme was based off of a jazz fusion song? I love it even more.

[@alexsudati]

"...only a small resemblance between original and Kondo's composition..." SMALL RESEMBLANCE. Yeah, sure... lol

[@adam2O]

Like I only need a small loan of $1.5 Million dollars. SMALL LOAN..

[@zhipcomics3001]

U keep getting better and better keep it up

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Thanks!

[@siltaire]

Hey ! The number 1 french KZbinr named Cyprien talked about you video during a live on Twitch one or two weeks ago. He recorded it and uploaded this video today ! Thats the reason why a lot of french people are talking about him in your comment section 😂 I just wanted you to know. Very good job btw. You have a great youtube channel ! Keep it up man ❤

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Thanks for letting me know! I'm really honoured that he mentioned me! (I wonder how he even found my channel, haha)

[@siltaire]

@@ThomasGameDocs haha no problem 😁 Idk but he's very interested in this kind of content ^^

[@lolafabrigoule2039]

Frimeur

[@yo_oyoo2750]

@@ThomasGameDocs kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpaWln5thcmAd9U you can see the french youtuber talking about you

[@steveblack2420]

On ne met pas d'espace avant le point d'exclamation en anglais.

[@shaide5483]

SilvaGunner’s gunna make that song into basically the Mario song

[@Obi-WanGaming]

Shaide he would probably make the mario song into the og, that’s more his thing

[@shaide5483]

iluvpikachu True

[@guffingtonreal]

Just did

[@shaide5483]

@@guffingtonreal Noice

[@Vaporvice84]

There's a song called "Perfect Way" by an 80s synthpop group called "Scritti Politti". Listen to the piano solo midway through the song. It's the main "theme" to Super Mario World (the song you hear in different iterations in many different stages throughout the game).

[@DonkeykongSw2]

T-SQUARE and Cassiopea both are very popular,even some TV stations in Japan, Thailand, Cambodia,etc. used their music pieces for sign-on/off duos and weather music.

[@claudiobizama5603]

T-Square Made the FujiTV Formula 1 transmission theme

[@DragonGrafx-16]

It's Casiopea not Cassiopea... maybe it was a play on Casio or something... IDK but it'd definitely one S and not two.

[@haunter93til]

As someone that has a thing for sampling and realizing sample connections between songs this video is dope af

[@q-funk6408]

Yeah, reminds me of Daft Punk lol

[@PleaseUnsubscribeHaha]

I cannot put into words properly how happy it makes me to hear all this. I often worry too much that my music sounds too similar to other songs, even unintentionally, and hearing these examples really made me reconsider my mentality on "copying".

[@YesNo-eh2jm]

This reminds me of a time my brother and his band had to make a song, and after about three hours, settled on a familiar sounding song, but I it was good. By playing the song faster, they figured out that it was Spider-Man and had to start over

[@fabianbenavides2663]

Koji is the Daft Punk of video game music.

[@thisisfyne]

That is fucking accurate!! It's quite a slap in the face when you realize Daft Punk pretty much didn't "create anything", all their good riffs and pieces come from oldschool artists.

[@GlitzPixie]

@@thisisfyne I think there's a real art to borrowing music to make something new, it just shouldn't be at the expense of your "inspirations"

[@matteopiscitello1606]

@@thisisfyne Do you know what sampling means?

[@scottythegreat1]

..... And other composers don't do this?? There's THOUSANDS of songs in video games that are ripped. I've found hundreds of ripped off songs and I bet I've only found a small fraction of them.

[@ChozoBrain]

@@matteopiscitello1606 Sampling is lazy.

[@l4dinfected1]

Honestly, Koji Kondo is an inspiration when making music so learning that even he did similar things makes me feel better about myself lol

[@thisisanoldemaildonotreply7045]

great music is always derived from other great music

[@Moshugaani]

I for one am happy that he took so much inspiration from the songs that surrounded him, since those Nintendo tunes are total bangers and will be remembered for ever and ever!

[@alvallac2171]

*forever

[@joshuajames1291]

Finally T square and casiopea getting some recognition for their hard work

[@danmakuman]

ikr

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Thank you for presenting this in a positive light. These days so many people want to be negative. Music is an ongoing work throughout humanity.

[@DonnaChamberson]

That is absolutely unnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnacceptable!

[@zebunker]

You assume negative is bad. That's the issue.

[@imnotasher4892]

@Raxes ! life with it

[@theexpoexplorer8033]

Popular music stopped being good 10 years ago

[@spongeboymebob771]

Neat poetry brah.

[@Sqwivig]

Amazing video! I've been listening to City Pop and Japanese Fusion for a while now and I recognized almost all these bands! I got literal chills when Tatsuro Yamashita's Morning Glory was put next to the fairy fountain! That's just awesome!

[@zelekshmira]

2:15 sorry, but I hear yoshi's island castle theme!

[@meriotroid]

I hear ultimate koopa from SM64

[@DoomKid]

Yep, me too!

[@salinaember9527]

yup i was about to comment that. i was all confident like, ya thats yoshi's island when it was playing :P

[@DonkeykongSw2]

I found it has some ghost house vibe.

[@IvanTube0]

4:05 sounds like the smash 64 trailer

[@aaronlucasmusic]

It reminds me of a common theme seen in the Japanese music industry during the 80s - 90s: pop and soundtrack composers would oftentimes take and incorporate pieces from another work to start off the track, changing a few notes or chords here and there to make it distinct but still recognizable. My theory is that they do this because the melodies are clever and tend to be awfully nostalgic. They serve as a good jumping-off point for making their own tracks. Some notable examples from my own listening experience include: - Shiro Sagisu quotes John Barry and some 70s-80s era pop songs in his Evangelion scores. - Toshiki Kadomatsu’s “Girl in the Box” / Change’s “Paradise” - Carlos Toshiki & Omega Tribe’s “Reiko” / Earth Wind & Fire’s “Let’s Groove” - [Patlabor] Hiroko Kasahara’s “Interface” / Jigsaw’s “Sky High” - [Ninja Scroll] Ryohei Yamagishi’s “Somewhere, Faraway, Everyone is Listening...” / DeVorzon & Botkin’s “Nadia’s Theme” - [Kimagure Orange Road] Masanori Ikeda’s “Kiken an Triangle” / Robbie Nevil’s “C’est la Vie” - [Kimagure Orange Road] Kanako Wada’s “Kanashii Heart wo Moeteiru” / Pet Shop Boys’ “Domino Dancing” - Nobuo Uematsu quotes some Christmas tunes in his Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon scores. He also quotes a couple The Ventures tracks on a Chocobo theme in FF7. - Koichi Sugiyama quotes “It’s a Small World” and “Oh You Beautiful Doll” in the Dragon Quest games. - Pieces from John Williams’s Imperial March show up in Suikoden II, Super Sentai, and many Gundam series. - Bits of Tchaikovsky appear in Pokémon RBY Gen 1 themes. - Lots of melodies in Toei’s World Masterpiece Theater anime series draw inspiration from Disney songs. - Anime composer Yoko Kanno has too many of these song intro homages to count. For an example, look up “The Real Folk Blues” from Cowboy Bebop and compare it to Bo Kaspers Orkester’s “En Världsomsegling Under Havet”.

[@Bloops]

I've been thinking about this recently after hearing "Concerto for Philodendron & Pothos" from the album Plantasia. Zelda's lullaby has a pretty clear resemblance to that song. It's cool to see more examples in your video!

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Ah yeah, I stumbled across that one whilst researching this video - the similarity is pretty crazy! It didn't really fit in with the whole "genre" thing I was going for though, so I didn't end up including it. Super interesting though!

[@SmashHighlights]

Hello Blooper bro

[@Bloops]

Hello Matt Math

[@Fuzy2K]

That song sounds like if Gentle Giant made Zelda music 😆

[@ChevyZ28K10]

Lots of people sound like they’re complaining, but I’m so thankful for his ‘renditions of covers’ for these legendary games because could you imagine these games without those incredible iconic songs/sounds?! I think it’s awesome and would be a great honor.

[@nickpavloff8977]

I love how it makes the worlds feel connected (Mario 3(fairy fountain song)) Mario n Zelda

[@TacquitoTV]

"good artists copy, great artists steal" -pablo picasso

[@LOVRemy]

"Bad artist mimic, Great artist steal"

[@TurnTwister]

I always thought that What's the Buzz from Jesus Christ Superstar "inspired" the Invincibility star music

[@kap79]

Exactly. Once you hear it you cannot unhear.

[@blastketchup4953]

кคקק๏гtєг song sounds good, don’t you say?

[@ArtwithBen]

WHATSTHEBUZZTELLMEWHATSAHAPPENINGwhatsthebuzztellmewhatsahappening

[@ShiningSeraph]

Oh snap, I never realized how similar they sound!

[@scottythegreat1]

when do we arrive into Jerusalem?

[@rwdplz1]

How long before Nintendo's lawyers crap their pants and demand KZbin take this down?

[@Professor_Utonium_]

This info has been known for years. This video is just really good at putting it all in one place and in a very nice fashion

[@texasgun2731]

i dont think the musician's children would appreciate dad suing super mario

[@a1rh3add]

@@texasgun2731 most of the time its the label that does the lawsuits.

[@bravelilspidey]

@@texasgun2731 I do! ;)

[@CarloNassar]

It's been more than a year, and they're not known for taking down videos discussing them. Plus, there are many of them.

[@TheBreadPirate]

Fascinating stuff! I love the Deep Purple comparison. It's a really catchy theme.

[@Grayguilt]

How does this only have two likes

[@calebgroves6526]

It’s like art and style. You can see influence of many artists in someone’s work. Like they say, everything has already been done.

[@SMEE]

3:26 sounds like the wing cap in Mario 64.

[@Network126]

Yes. Basically same song in 64 as in old Mario.

[@NathanBOSY2]

Wow, your channel is so coooool ! Merci Cyprien

[@darkobelisk4076]

Sometimes you hear something and it becomes an earworm and then keeps looping over and you jam on it and forget where it came from

[@Daniel_Boni]

Back in the 60s there were all these cool psychedelic rock bands. One was The bEatles and another was called The Byrds. They never STOLE stuff from each other but they took ideas from each other to create new songs. Everyone was borrowing riffs and ideas and no one was mad because that’s what music is. Other than Friendship (which wow it’s EXACTLY the same😳) everything else is a clear inspiration but it’s not like Koji Kondo didn’t create anything. The Mario theme is iconic and other than those first few notes (which once again, almost the same song) the rest of the Mario theme is totally original. Don’t forget things like the Zelda over world theme and the Princess Peach castle theme. Koji Kondo is a genius. But this is still eye opening for someone who’s never seen this or heard these tracks before. Shout out to the Game Grumps for bringing me here

[@不眠社畜]

So according to youtube the man in bottom right corner at 2:01 is a hard-rock-year-old man named Japanese Fusion who lives in Foreign, Jazz. Shame on you for exposing this poor man's identity.

[@leoeinstein3831]

ok this is hilarious

[@Zekiraeth]

Remember, if you steal from enough people, it's no longer considered theft.

[@Phobos_Anomaly]

I'm not sure, these are substantially different enough that I don't think it could be considered theft. It's only a few notes in most cases, and it's very easy to find comparisons that are sometimes completely coincidental. Now, if you want something bordering on outright theft, check out the original Doom and Doom 2 soundtracks. They are my favorite games of all time, I absolutely love the music, and Bobby Prince is awesome, but there is no denying the blatant use of popular metal of the time.

[@tuamatrem8304]

if you kill enough people, nobody can arrest you for it

[@John6-40]

@@Phobos_Anomaly I feel ya, but he seemed to take the most important notes - the ones that set the "tone" - and just changed the rest. It reminds me of how Led Zeppelin stole the intro arpeggio for Stairway. Or how Nirvana stole "Come as You Are" from Killing Joke.

[@salinaember9527]

i think when artists are so inspired by other particular artists, they are outright open and obvious about their compositions as sort of a tribute, and they are open about the possibility of being caught because they are not trying to take credit, but rather expand on the world of music and creativity.

[@JustJacobe]

@@tuamatrem8304 GOODNESS!

[@popcorndynamite7479]

Great video and great channel ! Thanks for your work and merci Cyprien ;)

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping by!

[@SechristCircus]

WOW! Some of those were definitely instantly recognizable! This was amazing.

[@DeathMetalJedi]

New game grumps episode brought me here

[@PropheticAnomaly]

I love this! It's so interesting to learn about Koji Kondo's creative heritage and how it influenced his own work.

[@OutrecuidantPerkele]

Great video. You missed a big one, though. Mort Garson in 1976, “Concerto for a Philodendron” is the source for Zelda’s Lullaby, first appearing in LttP.

[@pipermintz]

That one is more likely coincidence, unless Kondo explicitly stated he listened to that album. Keep in mind is wasn't nearly as popular then as it is now, and it's a very simple melody that pops up in many songs. BUT I will say the first time I listened to it I did immediately make the connection too LOL

[@zodzecht]

@Dennis "Filthy thief" is going a bit far lol, almost EVERY vgm composer has used elements from other music you silly ape

[@rodolfoespinosa5961]

Wow! thanks! It's even better!

[@tannerharshbarger4726]

This is awesome! I wonder if he heard Hiroshi Satoh’s 1985 Beatles cover ‘This Boy’. The intro melody sounds eerily similar to Garson’s tune, which may have in turn inspired Hiroshi and/or Koji Kondo

[@hashiispep]

Even then, it's cool how he shaped the melody to be drastically different, such as it being in 3/4 time instead of 4/4!

[@gets0410]

3:52 I don't think it's a coincidence... Because it sounds exactly like the Mario 64's version of it... (the wing cap theme) it seeps through.

[@juanmanuelroman8377]

I'm amazed of how many people think anything is composed ex nihilo, without any influence. When you compose music at first you're kinda frustrated of how much your work looks like other stuff already exists, but then you have to accept that EVERYTHING you compose is gonna sound like something (by influence or by pure randomness) in some way or another. The combinations are finite.

[@JeanOlivierGagnon]

Summer Breeze is nearly identical to the special caps and special stages music in Super Mario 64.

[@LITTLE1994]

Because those are a remix of the star theme.

[@LFiers]

Haha. Look at all the haters coming along like it's some big secret that a legend was inspired by other artists before them. Everyone is. Even your favorite artists. Did they even watch to the end of the video? Anyway, awesome video. Loved it. As an artist myself, I totally understand and agree with the whole point of it. Nothing ever comes from nothing. Everyone is inspired from someone before them.

[@SomeBoiJuice]

What the fuuuuu that's mad! Ground and Underground themes are identical!!

[@Peruchoyoda86]

Piper's Summer breeze is the Winged cap theme from Mario 64.

[@joscott9978]

Eh. Wrong, well.. kinda , it resembles the star man theme from the classic Mario bros

[@Peruchoyoda86]

@@joscott9978 You have to listen to the intro of "Wing cap theme" and listen to Summer breeze intro. They have the same melody. I wasn't debating the "Starman" similarity as "Wing cap" is a variation of "Starman" so yeah, you can hear it in both. I just personally think it sounds most similar to "Wing cap".

[@Peruchoyoda86]

@@joscott9978 listen to the intro on here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGLQo3-QocemjNE

[@markmauk8231]

Spot on

[@classic_colin]

Yeah, I agree that it more closely resembles the Super Mario 64 Winged Cap theme (which is itself a rearrangement of the SMB1 Power Star Theme).

[@kingbadger318]

I never considered the inspiration behind the game music. That's awesome! Great video!

[@AashishProductions]

This is common practice in the musical world. John Williams for instance does this with Star Wars.

[@scottythegreat1]

....... The Planets symphonic suite by: Gustav Holst, for the record.

[@leandrotroolfeesp]

4:03 "Morning Glory" is a Maria Takeuchi's 1980 song... Your housband Yamashita was recorded your vershion 2 years later

[@u0_a647]

Version**

[@ShootAUT]

His hobby was to play in a cover band, and yet you consider "slight resemblances" as being coincidental? Something doesn't add up there.

[@graffitikingdom4081]

Exactly!!

[@Nathan-gs5tw]

they're similar but different compositions my dude. listen to literally any song and you'll find it copied something from somewhere

[@ShootAUT]

@@Nathan-gs5tw Yes, but the point is that they're often more than just "slight resemblances". He sometimes almost copied the exact melody. And it didn't happen only once or twice. The combined amount of it makes it difficult to believe that it was mere coincidence. I'm not hating. I'm just saying that his excuse is very weak, especially when you consider his favorite past time as a student.

[@yvancluet8146]

@@ShootAUT the thing is, there's no need to find an excuse. For just about any song there is, you can find an earlier one that ranges from pretty similar to nearly identical. It's just how art works.

[@TheUnicornslayer]

@@ShootAUT yea man literally any song you can think off has melodies that exist in previous songs.

[@CitrusArchitect]

I like the way you said “let’s-a go” xD

[@ChrisBarrett1]

"Might hear some influence" = "Yeah I totally stole that"

[@DrummerDucky]

Kondo picks a few notes to start himself off, then diverge in a completely different direction. It's hard to say if these few successive notes count or not as plagiarism. The same question arises in writing (comedy or else) when the set-up is eerily similar yet veer into a completely novel punchline/conclusion.

[@MidoseitoAkage]

You don't know the defenition of Inspired.

[@archivearranger8792]

@@DrummerDucky Fairy Fountain doesn't really deviate...

[@durkadur27]

@@DrummerDucky As long as a single note is different it's considered original.

[@Neasyorc]

Koji Kondo is a fucking hack. Fucking fraud.

[@OfficialJuggaloJesus]

Kondo shot a man in Reno just to watch him die... To the Mario theme song.

[@zoewinters820]

5:25 well excuuuusee meee, Princess, but WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT BASS FILL ???? HOLY SHIT

[@netokapps]

Thanks for the great video! Even I'm Japanese and love Nintendo, I didn't know about this.

[@ijome]

Merci Cyprien de m'avoir fait découvrir cette chaîne magnifique

[@ThomasGameDocs]

Merci pour votre visite!

[@yb9869]

@@ThomasGameDocs tqt j'ai mentionné le lien depuis la vidéo de cyprien O:)

[@prenomnom9179]

Cyprine qui fait la pub pour les petites chaines après avoir créer sa seconde chaîne et ses courts métrages avec de l'argent volé ;)

[@cycyp_bucket2417]

@@prenomnom9179 de quoi de l'argent volé 😂 les vies KZbin ce n'est pas volé

[@FelicitationHumain]

Prénom Nom de l’argent volé ?

[@martinfederico7269]

Only people who are not musicians have the romantic idea that music geniuses get that divine inspiration and are completely original. They (non- musicians) are also not aware that it still is as difficult to make memorable music borrowing from orher artists.

[@YanSylvio]

Hirokazu Tanaka, the composer for Dr. Mario was also a fan of ELP it seems. He quoted a measure or two directly from ELP's 'Karn Evil 9 - 2nd Impression' in one of the three tracks in the game.

[@danielbracken2792]

This was a VERY well presented and put together. Kudos to you.

[@Stred]

Heyyy Deep Purple's April. Man do I love that song, has to be one of my favourite songs of all time.

[@ODR96]

Same! Honestly I thought it was such an obscure, b side from one of their lesser known albums, (Deep Purple III is easily my favourite album even if it's one of the lesser known ones), but I genuinely guffawed when I saw Koji took inspiration for the underworld theme for LoZ. It's crazy how similar it is.

[@Stred]

@@ODR96 I know! I am one of those sad cretins that just go wild when I see any of my favourite songs get referenced, so when I saw something as seemingly obscure as April being the centerpiece of a video, I was incredibly surprised and happy. It is amazing how something so obscure is such a major staple in many peoples minds.

[@o00nemesis00o]

Even that is a clear 'homage' to Bach

[@gabet3754]

Stred “Perfect Strangers” for me

[@ulyssesaldea-cervantes2571]

A lot of people don’t know that Hands of the Priestess by Steve Hackett is more than likely the basis for Zelda’s Lullaby

[@Danosauruscrecks]

I wish I could just stumbled upon a flyer for my dream job Lawsuits inbound lol

[@stoodmuffinpersonal3144]

My Dad's first Album he ever got was Deep Purple. And then I grew up with Zelda music. That's neat.

[@lenwoodturneriv6169]

Thanks for sharing this. It eases my guilt about the things I listen to popping up in the things that I write. (not as direct on my end, lol, but still noticeable). I’ve always enjoyed these tunes while playing so it’s really cool to get a peak at the influences behind them!

[@998liamg]

I always thought that the starman theme sounded like the refrain from "what's the buzz", from Jesus Christ superstar

[@BasicRock123]

2:55 it feels unsatisfying that the Mario tune doesn’t play

[@FloatingSunfish]

"Slight" resemblance? That is the understatement of the *_century!_*

[@litjellyfish]

Fabian L well here we are talking. Composition, instrumentation. Harmonica etc. So yes.

[@PSXuploads]

@Fabian L no

[@kreatorkrazy2423]

@@PSXuploads just "no"? explain?

[@litjellyfish]

Fabian L still it’s just that all those combinations are not like a still photo. They follow sequences. We we directly. (I mean directly ) can identify by hearing 2-3 seconds. If then that is followed by additional similarities we recognize the song. And at the same time find all the similar songs we heard. Which is actually what this movie is showing. What we are saying is when that happen for a composer he get inspired. And as the composer is aware of all this it’s very important that it avoid those sequences to be laid out in similar pattern. Still this happens all the times. Why? Well as said because the composer is inspired by something and that often leads to conscious or subconscious “copying” songs. So the statement that “inspiration is an understatement” here is “yes” it is an understatement the composer here was most likely quite aware that the reused parts and tones of material he liked when creating those songs. And that is not ripping him apart. Actually I find your interpretation of the original post statement a bit strong. It did not bash the composer. Did not downgrade his effort. It’s simple stated that those songs are more than inspired by other music. Which they are.

[@litjellyfish]

Fabian L sorry you did not win. Neither did you loose. You just stated YOUR opinion here like everyone else. What you did I fear (at least for me) with the “I win” statement come if as quite immature “I need to win this argument because I am right” person. I hope you are not that and we just misunderstand your good intentions to defend the composer.

[@Journeyman83]

In “April” by Deep Purple you can also hear music from Ninja Gaidens intro scene.

[@spongeboymebob771]

2:15 If I remember correctly this song was also the same one that inspired Super Buu's theme from DBZ.

[@Antispywarze]

Wow I love Tatsuro Yamashita's work. I didn't make the connection before but it makes me appreciate the fairy fountain theme even more.

[@imnotangry7594]

Japanese 70~80’s music is awesome like Yumi Matsutoya or Tatsuro Yamashita. I recommend to listen.

[@OceanicSix2342]

Another example: Ocarina of Time’s Forest Temple theme and Herbie Hancock’s “Watermelon Man”

[@TheDilden]

Dude! You just blew my mind. Watermelon Man is one of my fave Herbie songs and I never heard the similarity until you said it!!

[@ZeranZeran]

Holy shit, this is so cool! I always thought the Forest Temple sounded like a really advanced song, musically, for just a video game. With all the melodies layered upon each other. Now I know the real history of it. Thank you!

[@tavern2468]

Macarena of time

[@musicchannel4453]

@@tavern2468 underrated comment

[@burrri]

Amazing video! Instantly knew this video was going to be a journey

[@IronMan3582]

This was the perfect video to watch while I was having breakfast, thank you for making it.